Late Model FC vs mid-80s PT
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11-21-2005, 03:10
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Late Model FC vs mid-80s PT
Hi All...as I contmplate a first MH and really like the BBs...is a late
model FC a better "first" BB relative to complexity and repair? I am comparing with a similar year PT as an alternative. Say...an '86-'88 FC vs an '86-'87 PT 6V or 8V. My initial thought is that the PTs would be a better place to start. Budget is an issue but not the over riding factor...plus...I think the PTs are not much more these days than a nice FC of a similar year? Another very different question regards old wiring. Obviously there are miles of wiring in a BB. With a say 20 year old PT do you have frequent issues with broken wires or bad connections? Would it make sense to defensively clean all/most/many connections and coat with dieletic (sp) grease? Also, are the primary "failure points" pretty well know? If I were to do tires, belts, hoses, fluids, radiator, batteries...and than inspect and repair any known or anticipated issues on other systems...would I be in pretty good shape? BTW...when I say I...it likely means Ralph and a diesel shop. Just some continuing questions...Tom Rootness in Northern Minnesota |
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11-21-2005, 14:10
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Late Model FC vs mid-80s PT
Comparing same year and condition FC and PT models, the PTs will be
significantly more expensive then an FC. I may get some heat on this but I believe the FC are much easier to work on then the PTs. The dashboards are almost identical on similar 80's. The wiring is very similar if you compare the wiring diagrams for the FC and pushers. The FC engines are not only easier to work on but cheaper to maintain. The engines for the FC are less then 1/2 those for the PTs. A remanufactured Cat 3208T for a 1985 FC35 is $6452 plus a core from Jasper engines/transmissions. You can plan on about 40 hours of labor to pull the old engine and install the new one. This is for a complete drop in engine which includes everything new including the injection pump and injectors etc. The same year 6V92T for a 1985PT is $14,047 plus your core. The 1985 8V92T for a PT is $16,654 plus your core. Jasper is a premium remanufacturer of engines and warrants them for I believe 75,000 miles. The FC get better fuel mileage then the PTs, oil filters are cheaper and they use less oil in the oil change. From there you have to decide which one you want and forget all of the above. It boils down to your own preferences. Tom Warner 1982 FC35 Vernon Center,NY is less then At 10:10 AM 11/21/2005, you wrote: >Hi All...as I contmplate a first MH and really like the BBs...is a late >model FC a better "first" BB relative to complexity and repair? I am >comparing with a similar year PT as an alternative. Say...an '86-'88 >FC vs an '86-'87 PT 6V or 8V. > >My initial thought is that the PTs would be a better place to start. >Budget is an issue but not the over riding factor...plus...I think the >PTs are not much more these days than a nice FC of a similar year? > >Another very different question regards old wiring. Obviously there >are miles of wiring in a BB. With a say 20 year old PT do you have >frequent issues with broken wires or bad connections? Would it make >sense to defensively clean all/most/many connections and coat with >dieletic (sp) grease? > >Also, are the primary "failure points" pretty well know? If I were to >do tires, belts, hoses, fluids, radiator, batteries...and than inspect >and repair any known or anticipated issues on other systems...would I >be in pretty good shape? BTW...when I say I...it likely means Ralph and >a diesel shop. > >Just some continuing questions...Tom Rootness in Northern Minnesota |
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11-22-2005, 15:30
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Late Model FC vs mid-80s PT
I totally agree, especially with the last paragraph.
Dick Hayden - '87PT38 ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Warner To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 7:10 PM Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Late Model FC vs mid-80s PT Comparing same year and condition FC and PT models, the PTs will be significantly more expensive then an FC. I may get some heat on this but I believe the FC are much easier to work on then the PTs. The dashboards are almost identical on similar 80's. The wiring is very similar if you compare the wiring diagrams for the FC and pushers. The FC engines are not only easier to work on but cheaper to maintain. The engines for the FC are less then 1/2 those for the PTs. A remanufactured Cat 3208T for a 1985 FC35 is $6452 plus a core from Jasper engines/transmissions. You can plan on about 40 hours of labor to pull the old engine and install the new one. This is for a complete drop in engine which includes everything new including the injection pump and injectors etc. The same year 6V92T for a 1985PT is $14,047 plus your core. The 1985 8V92T for a PT is $16,654 plus your core. Jasper is a premium remanufacturer of engines and warrants them for I believe 75,000 miles. The FC get better fuel mileage then the PTs, oil filters are cheaper and they use less oil in the oil change. From there you have to decide which one you want and forget all of the above. It boils down to your own preferences. Tom Warner 1982 FC35 Vernon Center,NY is less then At 10:10 AM 11/21/2005, you wrote: >Hi All...as I contmplate a first MH and really like the BBs...is a late >model FC a better "first" BB relative to complexity and repair? I am >comparing with a similar year PT as an alternative. Say...an '86-'88 >FC vs an '86-'87 PT 6V or 8V. > >My initial thought is that the PTs would be a better place to start. >Budget is an issue but not the over riding factor...plus...I think the >PTs are not much more these days than a nice FC of a similar year? > >Another very different question regards old wiring. Obviously there >are miles of wiring in a BB. With a say 20 year old PT do you have >frequent issues with broken wires or bad connections? Would it make >sense to defensively clean all/most/many connections and coat with >dieletic (sp) grease? > >Also, are the primary "failure points" pretty well know? If I were to >do tires, belts, hoses, fluids, radiator, batteries...and than inspect >and repair any known or anticipated issues on other systems...would I >be in pretty good shape? BTW...when I say I...it likely means Ralph and >a diesel shop. > >Just some continuing questions...Tom Rootness in Northern Minnesota SPONSORED LINKS Recreational vehicles<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Recr...ation\ al+vehicles&w2=Wanderlodge&w3=Automotive+maintenance&w4=Recreational+vehicle+dea\ ler&w5=Used+recreational+vehicles&w6=Automotive+radiators&c=6&s=163&.sig=DAUkCKk\ U7Dzhn_ObWmSYTw> Wanderlodge<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Wand...;vehi\ cles&w2=Wanderlodge&w3=Automotive+maintenance&w4=Recreational+vehicle+dealer&w5=\ Used+recreational+vehicles&w6=Automotive+radiators&c=6&s=163&.sig=Z-8HJdysB3QLPj\ 9U0JvqYQ> Automotive maintenance<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Auto...ecrea\ tional+vehicles&w2=Wanderlodge&w3=Automotive+maintenance&w4=Recreational+vehicle\ +dealer&w5=Used+recreational+vehicles&w6=Automotive+radiators&c=6&s=163&.sig=IF4\ u_5wI8Pmy34cC1O9CxA> Recreational vehicle dealer<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Recr...ecrea\ tional+vehicles&w2=Wanderlodge&w3=Automotive+maintenance&w4=Recreational+vehicle\ +dealer&w5=Used+recreational+vehicles&w6=Automotive+radiators&c=6&s=163&.sig=z6_\ XahaeYHfELr6o72IW1A> Used recreational vehicles<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Used...Recre\ ational+vehicles&w2=Wanderlodge&w3=Automotive+maintenance&w4=Recreational+vehicl\ e+dealer&w5=Used+recreational+vehicles&w6=Automotive+radiators&c=6&s=163&.sig=UG\ EY5km4L-kXbDI4ZSadEw> Automotive radiators<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Auto...ation\ al+vehicles&w2=Wanderlodge&w3=Automotive+maintenance&w4=Recreational+vehicle+dea\ ler&w5=Used+recreational+vehicles&w6=Automotive+radiators&c=6&s=163&.sig=ePNVMmI\ SsCWgTnMq_4GlXA> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "WanderlodgeForum<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WanderlodgeForum>" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: WanderlodgeForum-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service<http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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11-23-2005, 12:34
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Late Model FC vs mid-80s PT
Thanks all for the input...I think an '87 PT38 8V would be about
perfect...yea...for about $50K!! Maybe an '88 or '89 FC would be a great coach also...I will keep "shopping"...Tom Rootness in Northern Minnesota |
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