Napa Part numbers?

[Pete Masterson]

Working my way through the coach ... starting at the front end. Need
Napa part numbers for:

PowerTech PTS MH-15 Generator (with Kubota Engine)

Oil filter (Powertech part no) 70000-32091
Fuel Filter " " " 70000-43081
Air Filter " " " 70000-11080

Thanks for any help.

Pete Masterson
aeonix1@...
'95 Bluebird Wanderlodge WBDA 42'
El Sobrante, CA






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[Leroy Eckert]

Pete: My Powertech PTS/MH15W Engine V1902BG Kaboda has as follows:
Spin on type
NAPA oil- 1191-------fuel 3390
WIX-oil------51191------fuel 53390
FRAM oil--PH 3569
I have used ll of the above. Can't see any difference.
Haven't changed the air filter, so can't help.
I use 30W Delo, change it every 75hrs.

Leroy Eckert
1990 WB-40
Niceville, FL

Leroy Eckert
1990 WB-40
Niceville, FL






----- Original Message -----
From: Pete Masterson
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com ; wanderlodge@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 8:30 PM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Napa Part numbers?


Working my way through the coach ... starting at the front end. Need
Napa part numbers for:

PowerTech PTS MH-15 Generator (with Kubota Engine)

Oil filter (Powertech part no) 70000-32091
Fuel Filter " " " 70000-43081
Air Filter " " " 70000-11080

Thanks for any help.

Pete Masterson
aeonix1@...
'95 Bluebird Wanderlodge WBDA 42'
El Sobrante, CA

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[Pete Masterson]

Fuel filter is a big help.... the "water in filter" alarm comes on if
I go over a rough patch of road. Here in California (due to
Government incompetence) we have lots of rough patches...

When I was poking around the 'bird this afternoon, I notice that the
air filter 'container' is all malformed and crushed (like it was
pulling a vacuum). That can't be good -- tomorrow I'm going to
attempt to open it up and see what, if anything, is inside.

Pete Masterson
aeonix1@...
'95 Bluebird Wanderlodge WBDA 42'
El Sobrante, CA




On Sep 11, 2006, at 7:14 PM, Leroy Eckert wrote:

> Pete: My Powertech PTS/MH15W Engine V1902BG Kaboda has as follows:
> Spin on type
> NAPA oil- 1191-------fuel 3390
> WIX-oil------51191------fuel 53390
> FRAM oil--PH 3569
> I have used ll of the above. Can't see any difference.
> Haven't changed the air filter, so can't help.
> I use 30W Delo, change it every 75hrs.
>
> Leroy Eckert
> 1990 WB-40
> Niceville, FL
>

----- Original Message -----
From: Pete Masterson
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com ; wanderlodge@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 8:30 PM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Napa Part numbers?


Working my way through the coach ... starting at the front end. Need
Napa part numbers for:

PowerTech PTS MH-15 Generator (with Kubota Engine)

Oil filter (Powertech part no) 70000-32091
Fuel Filter " " " 70000-43081
Air Filter " " " 70000-11080

Thanks for any help.



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[Leroy Eckert]

Pete:
Water in fuel alarm. Hmm. I don't have one of those on the genset filter. If
you had water there one would think you might have water in the tank and it
would show up elsewhere. I sent you the filter numbers I use on the Kubota. Is
that where your warning originates?

Leroy Eckert
1990 WB-40
Niceville, FL






----- Original Message -----
From: Pete Masterson
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 10:04 PM
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Napa Part numbers?


Fuel filter is a big help.... the "water in filter" alarm comes on if
I go over a rough patch of road. Here in California (due to
Government incompetence) we have lots of rough patches...

When I was poking around the 'bird this afternoon, I notice that the
air filter 'container' is all malformed and crushed (like it was
pulling a vacuum). That can't be good -- tomorrow I'm going to
attempt to open it up and see what, if anything, is inside.

Pete Masterson
aeonix1@...
'95 Bluebird Wanderlodge WBDA 42'
El Sobrante, CA

On Sep 11, 2006, at 7:14 PM, Leroy Eckert wrote:

> Pete: My Powertech PTS/MH15W Engine V1902BG Kaboda has as follows:
> Spin on type
> NAPA oil- 1191-------fuel 3390
> WIX-oil------51191------fuel 53390
> FRAM oil--PH 3569
> I have used ll of the above. Can't see any difference.
> Haven't changed the air filter, so can't help.
> I use 30W Delo, change it every 75hrs.
>
> Leroy Eckert
> 1990 WB-40
> Niceville, FL
>

----- Original Message -----
From: Pete Masterson
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com ; wanderlodge@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 8:30 PM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Napa Part numbers?

Working my way through the coach ... starting at the front end. Need
Napa part numbers for:

PowerTech PTS MH-15 Generator (with Kubota Engine)

Oil filter (Powertech part no) 70000-32091
Fuel Filter " " " 70000-43081
Air Filter " " " 70000-11080

Thanks for any help.

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[Pete Masterson]

The 'water' warning shows up on the generator panel above the
entrance door. A light comes on plus a screeching alarm noise. (Sure
does get your attention!) See photo at <http://homepage.mac.com/
aeonix1/> The photo is called 95lxi4238.jpg. (Note, this is a dealer
photo .. I've never seen the unbalanced load showing on the gauges.)

Since the panel covers the amps and volts being output by the
generator, polarity, and safeline, I can only assume that the alarm
refers to the generator. (Another hint is that the alarm immediately
stopped once the generator was turned off.) There is another "water
in fuel" alarm on the dashboard for the engine.

I can only guess how the alarm is triggered as I can't find any sign
of a sensor by the generator fuel filter (a spin-on type).

Yes, you would think that water would show up else where ... but the
Racor seems to catch the water at the engine ... and I've flushed it
a couple of times through the bottom valve (which is supposed to
allow any water to drain out). I haven't spent any time under the
coach (yet) and haven't checked for water in the main fuel tank. The
other water in fuel alarms have been silent.

I would guess that small quantities of water could accumulate in the
generator fuel filter over time and eventually build up to the point
where it is an issue. Meanwhile, water finding its way to the engine
would be captured and drained from the Racor.

BTW, thanks for the numbers. It was a 'slam dunk' at the Napa store
today. No joy, however, on the Air Filter. It's a real freak. (Napa
suggested contacting the manufacturer.)

I did discover that the Air Filter is a Donaldson DuraLite disposable
air filter. When I pulled the filter off the engine, the label was
facing downward. As luck would have it, the stock number was under
the band that holds the filter in place --- and it is completely
obliterated by the vibration-caused wear. It is important to note
that this air filter is quite different from the one described and
pictured in the manual.

I eventually found a sticker down low on the curbside front of the
engine that listed some filter numbers. It suggested a Donaldson ECC
5002. Upon researching the Donaldson web site, it appears that the
ECC 5002 might now be an ECC C65002 -- or it's very similar. (These
are disposable air filters that include the complete housing (made of
plastic) rather than an internal, replaceable cartridge.)

I will continue the search for a new air filter ... or a substitute.
I was able to find an airflow rating of 108 to 162 CFM for the C65002
filter, so I may be able to find a substitute.

Pete Masterson
aeonix1@...
'95 Bluebird Wanderlodge WBDA 42'
El Sobrante, CA




On Sep 12, 2006, at 1:39 PM, Leroy Eckert wrote:

> Pete:
> Water in fuel alarm. Hmm. I don't have one of those on the
> genset filter. If you had water there one would think you might
> have water in the tank and it would show up elsewhere. I sent you
> the filter numbers I use on the Kubota. Is that where your warning
> originates?
>
> Leroy Eckert
> 1990 WB-40
> Niceville, FL
>



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[Leroy Eckert]

Pete:
Your coach is newer than mine and is somewhat different. I have a water in fuel
warning light on the drivers panel only. Two years ago I needed a part for the
Kubota genset that I couldn't find anywhere. Power Tech stepped up. The
Company is in Leesburg, FL . The telephone number I have is 1-800-760-0027.
Talked to a person named Rick. Perhaps he could help with your air filter
problem.
Hopes this helps.

Leroy Eckert
1990 WB-40
Niceville, FL






----- Original Message -----
From: Pete Masterson
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 7:10 PM
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Napa Part numbers?


The 'water' warning shows up on the generator panel above the
entrance door. A light comes on plus a screeching alarm noise. (Sure
does get your attention!) See photo at <http://homepage.mac.com/
aeonix1/> The photo is called 95lxi4238.jpg. (Note, this is a dealer
photo .. I've never seen the unbalanced load showing on the gauges.)

Since the panel covers the amps and volts being output by the
generator, polarity, and safeline, I can only assume that the alarm
refers to the generator. (Another hint is that the alarm immediately
stopped once the generator was turned off.) There is another "water
in fuel" alarm on the dashboard for the engine.

I can only guess how the alarm is triggered as I can't find any sign
of a sensor by the generator fuel filter (a spin-on type).

Yes, you would think that water would show up else where ... but the
Racor seems to catch the water at the engine ... and I've flushed it
a couple of times through the bottom valve (which is supposed to
allow any water to drain out). I haven't spent any time under the
coach (yet) and haven't checked for water in the main fuel tank. The
other water in fuel alarms have been silent.

I would guess that small quantities of water could accumulate in the
generator fuel filter over time and eventually build up to the point
where it is an issue. Meanwhile, water finding its way to the engine
would be captured and drained from the Racor.

BTW, thanks for the numbers. It was a 'slam dunk' at the Napa store
today. No joy, however, on the Air Filter. It's a real freak. (Napa
suggested contacting the manufacturer.)

I did discover that the Air Filter is a Donaldson DuraLite disposable
air filter. When I pulled the filter off the engine, the label was
facing downward. As luck would have it, the stock number was under
the band that holds the filter in place --- and it is completely
obliterated by the vibration-caused wear. It is important to note
that this air filter is quite different from the one described and
pictured in the manual.

I eventually found a sticker down low on the curbside front of the
engine that listed some filter numbers. It suggested a Donaldson ECC
5002. Upon researching the Donaldson web site, it appears that the
ECC 5002 might now be an ECC C65002 -- or it's very similar. (These
are disposable air filters that include the complete housing (made of
plastic) rather than an internal, replaceable cartridge.)

I will continue the search for a new air filter ... or a substitute.
I was able to find an airflow rating of 108 to 162 CFM for the C65002
filter, so I may be able to find a substitute.

Pete Masterson
aeonix1@...
'95 Bluebird Wanderlodge WBDA 42'
El Sobrante, CA

On Sep 12, 2006, at 1:39 PM, Leroy Eckert wrote:

> Pete:
> Water in fuel alarm. Hmm. I don't have one of those on the
> genset filter. If you had water there one would think you might
> have water in the tank and it would show up elsewhere. I sent you
> the filter numbers I use on the Kubota. Is that where your warning
> originates?
>
> Leroy Eckert
> 1990 WB-40
> Niceville, FL
>

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[Pete Masterson]

I finally stumbled across their web site ... found the same model
generator with the Kubota engine is still made (but it's not listed
as an RV generator, but as a "mobile power generator" with a fire
truck in the background -- the RV generators only go up to 3kw.)

I sent off an email this evening explaining my problem. I have the
number for Donaldson, the air filter manufacturer and I'll call them
tomorrow.

I'll get to the bottom of this one....!

If anyone else has a '95 with the 15kw Power Tech generator, I'd sure
love to hear from them what kind of air filter they have....

Pete Masterson
aeonix1@...
'95 Bluebird Wanderlodge WBDA 42'
El Sobrante, CA




On Sep 12, 2006, at 7:08 PM, Leroy Eckert wrote:

>
>
> Pete:
> Your coach is newer than mine and is somewhat different. I have a
> water in fuel warning light on the drivers panel only. Two years
> ago I needed a part for the Kubota genset that I couldn't find
> anywhere. Power Tech stepped up. The Company is in Leesburg,
> FL . The telephone number I have is 1-800-760-0027. Talked to a
> person named Rick. Perhaps he could help with your air filter
> problem.
> Hopes this helps.
>
> Leroy Eckert
> 1990 WB-40
> Niceville, FL
>
>



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[Fred Hulse]

Pete,
Sorry for the delay in responding,
your air filter should be a WIX # 46296

Fred & Jeanne Hulse
Morristown Arizona
1997 Wanderlodge WB41

[Pete Masterson]

A _big_ thank you... The WIX 46296, from the online photo in the Wix
catalog, seems to be quite similar to the Donaldson ECC C65002 (that
I determined was probably the right one) -- and is probably OEMed
from Donaldson.

In looking up the "where to buy", I discover that dealers tend to be
in the farming communities in this state. Probably another reason
that it was "invisible" here in the city.

Pete Masterson
aeonix1@...
'95 Bluebird Wanderlodge WBDA 42'
El Sobrante, CA




On Sep 12, 2006, at 8:11 PM, Fred Hulse wrote:

> Pete,
> Sorry for the delay in responding,
> your air filter should be a WIX # 46296
>
> Fred & Jeanne Hulse
> Morristown Arizona
> 1997 Wanderlodge WB41
>



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