Back to towing a toad

[Jon]

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Lawrence"
wrote:
>
> Hi Jon,
> Never had a problem when towing the Tracker. Now we will be towing
> the Element only as sold the Tracker. It tracks fine also.
> Did you look into a steering stabilizer?
> Bob Lawrence
> 84 PT36
> Tacoma, Wa.
>
>
>
> > > But if you did lock the steering wheel, any turn you would make
> > would
> > > scuff the tires since they are tired straight. Wouldn't it be
> > better
> > > to bungy cord them in a straight position?
> > > Bob Lawrence
> > > 84 PT36
> > > Tacoma, Wa.
> > >
> > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Jon" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > This morning I went over to get an oil filter for my Onan
> > generator
> > > and
> > > > I mentioned that my old Subaru would not straiten out after I
> cut
> > a
> > > > close corner to the right. Well the supervisor of the repair
> > shop
> > > told
> > > > me that allot of toad will have this problem because of where
> the
> > > rear
> > > > wheels of the coach are situated. By this I mean the rear
> wheels
> > by
> > > > being so far under the coach that most cars will not track
> right
> > in
> > > a
> > > > tight corner. He explained it to me but I'm still a little
> lost
> > > why
> > > > this happens. He said the best way to make most turns in a
rig
> > > like
> > > > mine is to make them wide so the tire will have a chance to
> track
> > > > around the corners. Also he said if I do haft to make a
tight
> > turn
> > > > that I can either tie my steering wheel in the neutral
position
> > and
> > > so
> > > > the tires will not turn going around a tight corner. I guess
> you
> > > > wouldn't even haft to do this as you could just lock the
> steering
> > > wheel
> > > > in place with the steering wheel lock.
> > > >
> > > > Now do you guys that have regular toads ever have a problem
> with
> > > > turning in a tight turn at a slow speed? Just would like to
> know.
> > > >
> > > > Jon
> > > > Rebel Bird
> >
> >
> > I tried that and the steering goes around twice from one side to
> the
> > other and the buggy cord comes loose. I think I will just stick
to
> > the big turns for now. Do you have any problems when it comes to
> > making tight turn Bob? Jon
> > > >
> > >
> >
>


Well today will be the day to tell weather the Subaru can be towed.
I'm going to hoke it up to my truck and see how it manuvers and if it
doesn't than it will probably be sold. To much hassel to be fooling
around with my toad. Now has anyone ever towed a KIA? Sportage?

Jon
Rebel Bird
Bremerton

[ronmarabito2002]

I've towed a 2000 Subaru Outback more than 50,000 miles without incident.

R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, tX 92WB40


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Rob Robinson"
wrote:
>
> Jon did you contact REMCO to ask them about your Subaru. I still
believe it
> was a Subaru that was reported as 'un-towable' due to the steering
geometry.
>
> On 12/10/2007, Jon wrote:
> >
> > --- In
WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com,
> > "Don Bradner"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > I have never seen a toad fail to straighten after a turn, or fail
> > to turn correctly when cornering. Normal positive caster will always
> > act to return the wheels to straight.
> > >
> > > Steering wheel locks are unlikely to be the answer. Even without
> > the issue of scuffing on turns, most locks do not lock in the
> > straight position, they lock to some amount left or right. So, you
> > would probably be dragging the tires just going straight.
> > >
> > > One factor that effects caster is the height of front and rear of
> > the vehicle. Down in front negatively affects caster, up in front
> > positively affects it. If the towbar is too low it would tend to
> > decrease the liklihood of the wheels returning to center. Towbar high
> > should increase return-to-center.
> >
> > Now that maybe the answer! but I'm going to test my toe rig out with
> > my pickup truck in the near future and see what happens. Don thanks
> > again for those beautiful seats they really set of the old barge!!!
> > Trying to get my wife to take the old bird down to Arizona this
> > winter but she's says well see about that in January.
> >
> > Jon
> > >
> > > On 10/12/2007 at 7:39 PM Jon wrote:
> > >
> > > >This morning I went over to get an oil filter for my Onan
> > generator and
> > > >I mentioned that my old Subaru would not straiten out after I cut
> > a
> > > >close corner to the right. Well the supervisor of the repair shop
> > told
> > > >me that allot of toad will have this problem because of where the
> > rear
> > > >wheels of the coach are situated. By this I mean the rear wheels
> > by
> > > >being so far under the coach that most cars will not track right
> > in a
> > > >tight corner. He explained it to me but I'm still a little lost
> > why
> > > >this happens. He said the best way to make most turns in a rig
> > like
> > > >mine is to make them wide so the tire will have a chance to track
> > > >around the corners. Also he said if I do haft to make a tight
> > turn
> > > >that I can either tie my steering wheel in the neutral position
> > and so
> > > >the tires will not turn going around a tight corner. I guess you
> > > >wouldn't even haft to do this as you could just lock the steering
> > wheel
> > > >in place with the steering wheel lock.
> > > >
> > > >Now do you guys that have regular toads ever have a problem with
> > > >turning in a tight turn at a slow speed? Just would like to know.
> > > >
> > > >Jon
> > > >Rebel Bird
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Rob, Sue & Merlin Robinson
> 94 WLWB
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

[Pete Masterson]

"Early" Subarus were known to be poor towing choices due to their
steering geometry. Later Subarus tow just fine. I believe the
original question involved an 80s era vehicle -- which has the known
problem with being towed 4-down.

Pete Masterson
'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
aeonix1@...
On the road at Idaho Springs CO -- where it's snowing today!!



On Oct 13, 2007, at 10:15 PM, ronmarabito2002 wrote:

> I've towed a 2000 Subaru Outback more than 50,000 miles without
> incident.
>
> R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, tX 92WB40
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Rob Robinson"
> wrote:
>>
>> Jon did you contact REMCO to ask them about your Subaru. I still
> believe it
>> was a Subaru that was reported as 'un-towable' due to the steering
> geometry.
>>
>> On 12/10/2007, Jon wrote:
>>>
>>> --- In
> WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com,
>>> "Don Bradner"
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I have never seen a toad fail to straighten after a turn, or fail
>>> to turn correctly when cornering. Normal positive caster will always
>>> act to return the wheels to straight.
>>>>
>>>> Steering wheel locks are unlikely to be the answer. Even without
>>> the issue of scuffing on turns, most locks do not lock in the
>>> straight position, they lock to some amount left or right. So, you
>>> would probably be dragging the tires just going straight.
>>>>
>>>> One factor that effects caster is the height of front and rear of
>>> the vehicle. Down in front negatively affects caster, up in front
>>> positively affects it. If the towbar is too low it would tend to
>>> decrease the liklihood of the wheels returning to center. Towbar
>>> high
>>> should increase return-to-center.
>>>
>>> Now that maybe the answer! but I'm going to test my toe rig out with
>>> my pickup truck in the near future and see what happens. Don thanks
>>> again for those beautiful seats they really set of the old barge!!!
>>> Trying to get my wife to take the old bird down to Arizona this
>>> winter but she's says well see about that in January.
>>>
>>> Jon
>>>>
>>>> On 10/12/2007 at 7:39 PM Jon wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> This morning I went over to get an oil filter for my Onan
>>> generator and
>>>>> I mentioned that my old Subaru would not straiten out after I cut
>>> a
>>>>> close corner to the right. Well the supervisor of the repair shop
>>> told
>>>>> me that allot of toad will have this problem because of where the
>>> rear
>>>>> wheels of the coach are situated. By this I mean the rear wheels
>>> by
>>>>> being so far under the coach that most cars will not track right
>>> in a
>>>>> tight corner. He explained it to me but I'm still a little lost
>>> why
>>>>> this happens. He said the best way to make most turns in a rig
>>> like
>>>>> mine is to make them wide so the tire will have a chance to track
>>>>> around the corners. Also he said if I do haft to make a tight
>>> turn
>>>>> that I can either tie my steering wheel in the neutral position
>>> and so
>>>>> the tires will not turn going around a tight corner. I guess you
>>>>> wouldn't even haft to do this as you could just lock the steering
>>> wheel
>>>>> in place with the steering wheel lock.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now do you guys that have regular toads ever have a problem with
>>>>> turning in a tight turn at a slow speed? Just would like to know.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jon
>>>>> Rebel Bird
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Rob, Sue & Merlin Robinson
>> 94 WLWB
>>
>>
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
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