Tricks on a re wire project

[Ralph L. Fullenwider]

Good after noon to everyone:

I am working on my gen set and the following is the knowed up stuff:

Symptom:

Gen starts, runs 2 minutes and shuts down.
1. known facts, wire the fuel solenoid back and gen set runs with out put
also runs, the yellow light in the center of the stop start switch goes out
but I still have 110vac out put.
Conclusion: 110 vac relay CR contacts are opening, thus the light goes out
and causes the shut down sequence of 12 vdc relay 2-CR. Further conclusion;
Since 120 vac out put is present, the contacts of 110 vac relay CR are
bouncing open? Wrong relay was installed? burned or corroded contacts on
wiring or relay contacts?

Work in Progress:
1 Opened control box, checked for corrosion, yes there is.
2. Checked for proper relays; 110 vac Relay is wrong type, 12 vdc relay 1-
CR is wrong type, 12 vdc relay 2-CR and 12 vdc relay C, contacts and wiring
corroded.
3. Found part of the control box to have been re wired at one time or
other, wrong size wiring used and wiring ends should have been wicked with
solder before ring tongue connectors installed.
4. L1/L2 and Neutral wires loose on Terminal strip.

Planned completion to be done; And a suggestion to all, go to an electrical
out let and buy some wire numbers, get a bottle of alcohol and shop rags
then before pulling on wire off anything, have your book ready, and double
check wiring according to the diagram if no diagram then draw one up and
mark each wire as you remove it. Clean a spot on the wire with alcohol,
then apply a wire number, marking it down on your diagram. Never try to
remember where wires go, 3 days later they will not go to the same place in
our minds. Been there on that one.

So bottom line is, get any wiring, pneumatic, hydraulic or electronic
project done but take more extra time at the beginning. It WILL save you
time and effort in the end, and replace components as needed but with the
proper parts and not a knock off part that will only work one or two times.


Safe travels,

Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider
84FC35 "Ruff Diamond"
Duncan, Oklahoma

[Bob Lawrence]

Hi Ralph,
The word is out that you are excellent on electrical repairs.
We will see you in Nov. after our workcamping here in Branson, to get
some stuff done.
Bob Lawrence
84 PT36
Workcamping in Branson Mo. for 6 months.

> Good after noon to everyone:
>
> I am working on my gen set and the following is the knowed up stuff:
>
> Symptom:
>
> Gen starts, runs 2 minutes and shuts down.
> 1. known facts, wire the fuel solenoid back and gen set runs with
out put
> also runs, the yellow light in the center of the stop start switch
goes out
> but I still have 110vac out put.
> Conclusion: 110 vac relay CR contacts are opening, thus the light
goes out
> and causes the shut down sequence of 12 vdc relay 2-CR. Further
conclusion;
> Since 120 vac out put is present, the contacts of 110 vac relay CR
are
> bouncing open? Wrong relay was installed? burned or corroded
contacts on
> wiring or relay contacts?
>
> Work in Progress:
> 1 Opened control box, checked for corrosion, yes there is.
> 2. Checked for proper relays; 110 vac Relay is wrong type, 12 vdc
relay 1-
> CR is wrong type, 12 vdc relay 2-CR and 12 vdc relay C, contacts
and wiring
> corroded.
> 3. Found part of the control box to have been re wired at one time
or
> other, wrong size wiring used and wiring ends should have been
wicked with
> solder before ring tongue connectors installed.
> 4. L1/L2 and Neutral wires loose on Terminal strip.
>
> Planned completion to be done; And a suggestion to all, go to an
electrical
> out let and buy some wire numbers, get a bottle of alcohol and shop
rags
> then before pulling on wire off anything, have your book ready, and
double
> check wiring according to the diagram if no diagram then draw one
up and
> mark each wire as you remove it. Clean a spot on the wire with
alcohol,
> then apply a wire number, marking it down on your diagram. Never
try to
> remember where wires go, 3 days later they will not go to the same
place in
> our minds. Been there on that one.
>
> So bottom line is, get any wiring, pneumatic, hydraulic or
electronic
> project done but take more extra time at the beginning. It WILL
save you
> time and effort in the end, and replace components as needed but
with the
> proper parts and not a knock off part that will only work one or
two times.
>
>
> Safe travels,
>
> Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider
> 84FC35 "Ruff Diamond"
> Duncan, Oklahoma
>

[Leroy Eckert]

Bob:
How do you like the Workcamping deal so far.
Leroy Eckert
1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors
Dahlonega, GA

Bob Lawrence wrote:

Hi Ralph,
The word is out that you are excellent on electrical repairs.
We will see you in Nov. after our workcamping here in Branson, to get
some stuff done.
Bob Lawrence
84 PT36
Workcamping in Branson Mo. for 6 months.

> Good after noon to everyone:
>
> I am working on my gen set and the following is the knowed up stuff:
>

> Symptom:
>
> Gen starts, runs 2 minutes and shuts down.
> 1. known facts, wire the fuel solenoid back and gen set runs with
out put
> also runs, the yellow light in the center of the stop start switch
goes out
> but I still have 110vac out put.
> Conclusion: 110 vac relay CR contacts are opening, thus the light
goes out
> and causes the shut down sequence of 12 vdc relay 2-CR. Further
conclusion;
> Since 120 vac out put is present, the contacts of 110 vac relay CR
are
> bouncing open? Wrong relay was installed? burned or corroded
contacts on
> wiring or relay contacts?
>
> Work in Progress:
> 1 Opened control box, checked for corrosion, yes there is.
> 2. Checked for proper relays; 110 vac Relay is wrong type, 12 vdc
relay 1-
> CR is wrong type, 12 vdc relay 2-CR and 12 vdc relay C, contacts
and wiring
>
corroded.
> 3. Found part of the control box to have been re wired at one time
or
> other, wrong size wiring used and wiring ends should have been
wicked with
> solder before ring tongue connectors installed.
> 4. L1/L2 and Neutral wires loose on Terminal strip.
>
> Planned completion to be done; And a suggestion to all, go to an
electrical
> out let and buy some wire numbers, get a bottle of alcohol and shop
rags
> then before pulling on wire off anything, have your book ready, and
double
> check wiring according to the diagram if no diagram then draw one
up and
> mark each wire as you remove it. Clean a spot on the wire with
alcohol,
> then apply a wire number, marking it down on your diagram. Never
try to
> remember where wires go, 3 days later they will not go to the same
place in
> our minds. Been there on that one.
>

> So bottom line is, get any wiring, pneumatic, hydraulic or
electronic
> project done but take more extra time at the beginning. It WILL
save you
> time and effort in the end, and replace components as needed but
with the
> proper parts and not a knock off part that will only work one or
two times.
>
>
> Safe travels,
>
> Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider
> 84FC35 "Ruff Diamond"
> Duncan, Oklahoma
>