brake controller & "fog" lights....

[steve]

Hi All

I'm about to install a Prodigy electric brake controller on my '79
FC 33 for my car trailer, and was wondering if anyone could
recommend the "simplest" way. It looks like I should be able to
pick up the 12v. feed from one of the circuit breakers in front of
the steering column, and possibly the ground in that same area. Any
recommendations for circuit breaker choice? Is the brake light
switch right there under the floor somewhere?

What is the best way of routing the feed back to the "Bargman type"
connector in the rear? ....under the chassis or is there a another
place to run wires to the back? My plans are to make it a 12 gauge
stranded wire. An earlier look under the bed at the rear showed me
where the existing wires came in to the plug, but I don't remember
if they came through the floor, or from behind the water heater.
I'm assuming that the connecter is the standard pin configuration,
w/just the brake wire unused (circuit schem. shows 5 pins used and
it's a 6 pin connector).

I also just noticed that my "fog" lights no longer come on when the
dash toggle is thrown. I know when I picked it up that they
worked. I unscrewed and lifted the dash to see if a wire had fallen
off, but both wires are attached. The schematic shows a relay that
pulls in the feed to the lights....can anyone tell me where the
relay is located??

Hoping that someone has been through one or both of these issues
before.....
Thanx in advance

Steve George
'79 FC 33
Lunenburg, MA

[Jeff Miller]

The brake-light switches (2) are on the air-lines just under the
brake pedal, and feed into the steering column above the floor to the
turn-signal switch, a good place to pick up brake-lignt signal.

The wire to the rear? You could go through the trouble of stringing
it through the coach, but the easiest is to go under the bus.

The 7-pin connector on the rear of the coach was not wired to the
Bargman standard from the factory, BB had their own "standard" LOL.

If you have to pull the connector anyway, (best to replace it while
you're at it), re-connect the wires to the Bargman standard to save
yourself confusion later. You might not have combined brake/turn
lights in a '79, might have to buy a converter box to combine
brake/turnsignal (available many many places automotive).

Can't help you on the fog-lamp relay location.

- Jeff Miller


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "steve" <scageorge@g...>
wrote:
> Hi All
>
> I'm about to install a Prodigy electric brake controller on my '79
> FC 33 for my car trailer, and was wondering if anyone could
> recommend the "simplest" way. It looks like I should be able to
> pick up the 12v. feed from one of the circuit breakers in front of
> the steering column, and possibly the ground in that same area.
Any
> recommendations for circuit breaker choice? Is the brake light
> switch right there under the floor somewhere?
>
> What is the best way of routing the feed back to the "Bargman type"
> connector in the rear? ....under the chassis or is there a another
> place to run wires to the back? My plans are to make it a 12 gauge
> stranded wire. An earlier look under the bed at the rear showed me
> where the existing wires came in to the plug, but I don't remember
> if they came through the floor, or from behind the water heater.
> I'm assuming that the connecter is the standard pin configuration,
> w/just the brake wire unused (circuit schem. shows 5 pins used and
> it's a 6 pin connector).
>
> I also just noticed that my "fog" lights no longer come on when the
> dash toggle is thrown. I know when I picked it up that they
> worked. I unscrewed and lifted the dash to see if a wire had
fallen
> off, but both wires are attached. The schematic shows a relay that
> pulls in the feed to the lights....can anyone tell me where the
> relay is located??
>
> Hoping that someone has been through one or both of these issues
> before.....
> Thanx in advance
>
> Steve George
> '79 FC 33
> Lunenburg, MA

[randydupree]

steve, i have the old BB donut wagon,when the trailer brakes were hooked up on
it by BB they put the controller in the trailer,and just used the trailer light
wires to activate it,they must of had an extra battery in the trailer also.i've
never seen this done before,putting the controller in the trailer.just another
way to look at it! randydupree93wb
----- Original Message -----
From: steve
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 9:43 AM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] brake controller & "fog" lights....


Hi All

I'm about to install a Prodigy electric brake controller on my '79
FC 33 for my car trailer, and was wondering if anyone could
recommend the "simplest" way. It looks like I should be able to
pick up the 12v. feed from one of the circuit breakers in front of
the steering column, and possibly the ground in that same area. Any
recommendations for circuit breaker choice? Is the brake light
switch right there under the floor somewhere?

What is the best way of routing the feed back to the "Bargman type"
connector in the rear? ....under the chassis or is there a another
place to run wires to the back? My plans are to make it a 12 gauge
stranded wire. An earlier look under the bed at the rear showed me
where the existing wires came in to the plug, but I don't remember
if they came through the floor, or from behind the water heater.
I'm assuming that the connecter is the standard pin configuration,
w/just the brake wire unused (circuit schem. shows 5 pins used and
it's a 6 pin connector).

I also just noticed that my "fog" lights no longer come on when the
dash toggle is thrown. I know when I picked it up that they
worked. I unscrewed and lifted the dash to see if a wire had fallen
off, but both wires are attached. The schematic shows a relay that
pulls in the feed to the lights....can anyone tell me where the
relay is located??

Hoping that someone has been through one or both of these issues
before.....
Thanx in advance

Steve George
'79 FC 33
Lunenburg, MA





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[Steve George]

Thanx guys

I'll probably try to rewire the connector that's on there to match the
trailer (I still have the "pin out" for that). The schematic shows
which wire goes where on the receptacle end, as long as BB followed
their own color codes (which I haven't found they've done anywhere so
far)

Steve

On 6/10/05, randydupree wrote:
> steve, i have the old BB donut wagon,when the trailer brakes were hooked up
> on it by BB they put the controller in the trailer,and just used the trailer
> light wires to activate it,they must of had an extra battery in the trailer
> also.i've never seen this done before,putting the controller in the
> trailer.just another way to look at it! randydupree93wb
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: steve
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 9:43 AM
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] brake controller & "fog" lights....
>
>
> Hi All
>
> I'm about to install a Prodigy electric brake controller on my '79
> FC 33 for my car trailer, and was wondering if anyone could
> recommend the "simplest" way. It looks like I should be able to
> pick up the 12v. feed from one of the circuit breakers in front of
> the steering column, and possibly the ground in that same area. Any
> recommendations for circuit breaker choice? Is the brake light
> switch right there under the floor somewhere?
>
> What is the best way of routing the feed back to the "Bargman type"
> connector in the rear? ....under the chassis or is there a another
> place to run wires to the back? My plans are to make it a 12 gauge
> stranded wire. An earlier look under the bed at the rear showed me
> where the existing wires came in to the plug, but I don't remember
> if they came through the floor, or from behind the water heater.
> I'm assuming that the connecter is the standard pin configuration,
> w/just the brake wire unused (circuit schem. shows 5 pins used and
> it's a 6 pin connector).
>
> I also just noticed that my "fog" lights no longer come on when the
> dash toggle is thrown. I know when I picked it up that they
> worked. I unscrewed and lifted the dash to see if a wire had fallen
> off, but both wires are attached. The schematic shows a relay that
> pulls in the feed to the lights....can anyone tell me where the
> relay is located??
>
> Hoping that someone has been through one or both of these issues
> before.....
> Thanx in advance
>
> Steve George
> '79 FC 33
> Lunenburg, MA
>
>
>
>
>
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Steve George
'79 FC-33
Lunenburg, MA