How do you get your coach ready for freezing weather?

[Jipjob]

Well its suppose to drop down into the 20's this weekend with highs in the low
30's. I do not want my coach to freeze up-what would be the simplest solution?
I really do not want to blow down the system but if I haft to I will. I have a
space heater in the area where the pipes runs back and fort and think I might
just fire up the propane heaters in the old rig-do you think that will keep the
pipes from freezing????

[cape0001]

there are two options
1 drive south
2 winterize the coach

Stephen 97 bmc 37





--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Jipjob" wrote:
>
> Well its suppose to drop down into the 20's this weekend with highs in the low
30's. I do not want my coach to freeze up-what would be the simplest solution?
I really do not want to blow down the system but if I haft to I will. I have a
space heater in the area where the pipes runs back and fort and think I might
just fire up the propane heaters in the old rig-do you think that will keep the
pipes from freezing????
>

[Ron Thompson]

Question, I drained my fresh water tank by opening the drain valve in the curbside bay where all the water pumps are. I don't have the AC or DC supplies turned on. I do have a battery charger on my batteries. I opened all the faucets inside the RV. Here is my question?????? Is this enough to get the water out of the lines. Inside the RV won't be a problem unless it stays down in the low 20's for several days. The black and grey water tanks are drained as well. Is this enough prep for a freezing night? Ron Thompson -Waller, Tx. 1995 WLWB 42' (cockyfox@...) --- On Sat, 12/5/09, Jipjob wrote: From: Jipjob Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] How do you get your coach ready for freezing weather? To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, December 5, 2009, 9:37 AM Well its suppose to drop down into the 20's this weekend with highs in the low 30's. I do not want my coach to freeze up-what would be the simplest solution? I really do not want to blow down the system but if I haft to I will. I have a space heater in the area where the pipes runs back and fort and think I might just fire up the propane heaters in the old rig-do you think that will keep the pipes from freezing????

[freewill2008]

Jon - Start that puppy up and head south right away!

Bob Griesel '84 FC31 WLII WA

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Jipjob" wrote:
>
> Well its suppose to drop down into the 20's this weekend with highs in the low
30's. I do not want my coach to freeze up-what would be the simplest solution?
I really do not want to blow down the system but if I haft to I will. I have a
space heater in the area where the pipes runs back and fort and think I might
just fire up the propane heaters in the old rig-do you think that will keep the
pipes from freezing????
>

[Ernie Ekberg]

im all for that
ERNIE deming, nm for the nite
coach running great
no wifi or internet access

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------Original Message------
From: freewill2008
To:
Date: Sat, Dec 5, 2009 07:53 PM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: How do you get your coach ready for freezing
weather?

Jon - Start that puppy up and head south right away!

Bob Griesel '84 FC31 WLII WA

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Jipjob" wrote:
>
> Well its suppose to drop down into the 20's this weekend with highs in the low
30's. I do not want my coach to freeze up-what would be the simplest solution?
I really do not want to blow down the system but if I haft to I will. I have a
space heater in the area where the pipes runs back and fort and think I might
just fire up the propane heaters in the old rig-do you think that will keep the
pipes from freezing????
>

[Wallace Craig]

Wallace Craig 95 WLWB 42 Azle, Texas --- On Sat, 12/5/09, Ernie Ekberg wrote: From: Ernie Ekberg Subject: Re:[WanderlodgeForum] Re: How do you get your coach ready for freezing weather? To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, December 5, 2009, 4:52 PM im all for that ERNIE deming, nm for the nite coach running great no wifi or internet access ---------- Sent from AT&T's Wireless network using Mobile Email ------Original Message------ From: freewill2008 <sundance101@...> To: <WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com> Date: Sat, Dec 5, 2009 07:53 PM Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: How do you get your coach ready for freezing weather? Jon - Start that puppy up and head south right away! Bob Griesel '84 FC31 WLII WA --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Jipjob" wrote: > > Well its suppose to drop down into the 20's this weekend with highs in the low 30's. I do not want my coach to freeze up-what would be the simplest solution? I really do not want to blow down the system but if I haft to I will. I have a space heater in the area where the pipes runs back and fort and think I might just fire up the propane heaters in the old rig-do you think that will keep the pipes from freezing???? > ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WanderlodgeForum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WanderlodgeForum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: WanderlodgeForum-digest@yahoogroups.com WanderlodgeForum-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: WanderlodgeForum-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

[Pete Masterson]

Since you have a 95=42', you must have an AquaHot system. At the least, turn on your AC power, and make sure the A-H thermostats are set for a minimum temperature. The electric element is usually sufficient to keep the basement heaters (with their thermostat set at 40 degrees) going, but it won't keep the interior warm. You can set the 'hydronic heat' switch on the dash to ON, then the AH will keep the interior at 55 degrees or so with the thermostats set at minimum.

Open the cabinets below the sinks so warm air can reach the pipes.

With that, the system ought to be assured of not freezing.

The problem, even when you've drained everything, is that there are low spots where water will have 'puddled' and there's always some water in the pumps that might freeze and damage them. You also have the p-traps under the sinks and shower that can burst if the water in them freezes -- as well as other low spots where water might have collected in the plumbing. The water service tubes in the Aquahot are spirals of pipe -- and they're nearly impossible to fully drain. (Damage to the A-H would be very expensive.)

Winterizing involves completely clearing water out of the pipes -- and most also recommend putting the "pink stuff" antifreeze (the kind that isn't toxic) into the water system.

But if all you're facing is a few days of freezing weather, then just turning on the Aquahot sytem should be sufficient.

We get (rare) nights here where temperatures will drop into the high 20s for a few hours. It's enough that an outside faucet might be frozen (so it doesn't turn on) but I've never had a cracked or burst pipe. On those nights, I always just made sure that the Aquahot electric was on and that the diesel burner (hydronic heat) switch was also on so that if necessary, the AH system could keep the coach above freezing. I never had any problems with freezing.

Well charged batteries won't be affected by freezing unless the temperatures get exceedingly cold (not likely in Texas). Discharged batteries are another matter.

Unless you're planning to start the engine, there's no need to turn on the block heater.

===============================================

Pete Masterson, Author of

Book Design and Production: A Guide for Authors and Publishers

"Aeonix1@Mac.com"

Aeonix Publishing Group http://www.aeonix.com

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On Dec 5, 2009, at 8:11 AM, Ron Thompson wrote:

Question, I drained my fresh water tank by opening the drain valve in the curbside bay where all the water pumps are. I don't have the AC or DC supplies turned on. I do have a battery charger on my batteries. I opened all the faucets inside the RV. Here is my question?????? Is this enough to get the water out of the lines. Inside the RV won't be a problem unless it stays down in the low 20's for several days. The black and grey water tanks are drained as well. Is this enough prep for a freezing night? Ron Thompson -Waller, Tx. 1995 WLWB 42' ("cockyfox@sbcglobal.net") --- OnSat, 12/5/09, Jipjob<"jipjob@yahoo.com">wrote: From: Jipjob <"jipjob@yahoo.com"> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] How do you get your coach ready for freezing weather? To:"WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com" Date: Saturday, December 5, 2009, 9:37 AM Well its suppose to drop down into the 20's this weekend with highs in the low 30's. I do not want my coach to freeze up-what would be the simplest solution? I really do not want to blow down the system but if I haft to I will. I have a space heater in the area where the pipes runs back and fort and think I might just fire up the propane heaters in the old rig-do you think that will keep the pipes from freezing????

[Ron Thompson]

Hi Pete, Merry Christmas to you and your family. Thanks for your input. If anything is going to freeze up its done it already by now. I don't think it will though. It has to stay down around 25 t0 28 degrees for a good many hours to freeze anything. It was warm enough today that it won't freeze anything up tonight. I am going to check out everything in the morning to make sure all is ok. Thanks for your input. I expect that Jan will be the time I have to prep everything. It is usually then that we get the really hard freezes although those have not been so bad the last few years. Thanks again for your input. Ron Thompson -Waller, Tx. 1995 WLWB 42' (cockyfox@...) --- On Sat, 12/5/09, Pete Masterson wrote: From: Pete Masterson Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] How do you get your coach ready for freezing weather? To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, December 5, 2009, 7:01 PM Since you have a 95=42', you must have an AquaHot system. At the least, turn on your AC power, and make sure the A-H thermostats are set for a minimum temperature. The electric element is usually sufficient to keep the basement heaters (with their thermostat set at 40 degrees) going, but it won't keep the interior warm. You can set the 'hydronic heat' switch on the dash to ON, then the AH will keep the interior at 55 degrees or so with the thermostats set at minimum. Open the cabinets below the sinks so warm air can reach the pipes. With that, the system ought to be assured of not freezing. The problem, even when you've drained everything, is that there are low spots where water will have 'puddled' and there's always some water in the pumps that might freeze and damage them. You also have the p-traps under the sinks and shower that can burst if the water in them freezes -- as well as other low spots where water might have collected in the plumbing. The water service tubes in the Aquahot are spirals of pipe -- and they're nearly impossible to fully drain. (Damage to the A-H would be very expensive.) Winterizing involves completely clearing water out of the pipes -- and most also recommend putting the "pink stuff" antifreeze (the kind that isn't toxic) into the water system. But if all you're facing is a few days of freezing weather, then just turning on the Aquahot sytem should be sufficient. We get (rare) nights here where temperatures will drop into the high 20s for a few hours. It's enough that an outside faucet might be frozen (so it doesn't turn on) but I've never had a cracked or burst pipe. On those nights, I always just made sure that the Aquahot electric was on and that the diesel burner (hydronic heat) switch was also on so that if necessary, the AH system could keep the coach above freezing. I never had any problems with freezing. < /div> Well charged batteries won't be affected by freezing unless the temperatures get exceedingly cold (not likely in Texas). Discharged batteries are another matter. Unless you're planning to start the engine, there's no need to turn on the block heater. ============ ========= ========= ========= ======== Pete Masterson, Author of Book Design and Production: A Guide for Authors and Publishers Aeonix1@Mac. com Aeonix Publishing Group http://www.aeonix. com ============ ========= ========= ========= ======== On Dec 5, 2009, at 8:11 AM, Ron Thompson wrote: Question, I drained my fresh water tank by opening the drain valve in the curbside bay where all the water pumps are. I don't have the AC or DC supplies turned on. I do hav! e a batt ery charger on my batteries. I opened all the faucets inside the RV. Here is my question???? ?? Is this enough to get the water out of the lines. Inside the RV won't be a problem unless it stays down in the low 20's for several days. The black and grey water tanks are drained as well. Is this enough prep for a freezing night? Ron Thompson -Waller, Tx. 1995 WLWB 42' (cockyfox@sbcglobal. net) --- OnSat, 12/5/09, Jipjob<jipjob@yahoo. com>wrote: From: Jipjob <jipjob@yahoo. com> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] How do you get your coach ready for freezing weather? To:WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com Date: Saturday, December 5, 2009, 9:37 AM Well its suppose to drop down into the 20's this weekend with highs in the low 30's. I do not want my coach to freeze up-what would be the simplest solution? I really do not want to blow down the system but if I haft to I will. I have a space heater in the area where the pipes runs back and fort and think I might just fire up the propane heaters in the old rig-do you think that will keep the pipes from freezing????