Service in Florida

[Tom Gibbs]

Ron,
Thanks a lot for all the information. I get no output when the switch
is in either direction and when in the middle, just a slight move of the
needle.

Tom Gibbs

-----Original Message-----
From: ronmarabito2002 [mailto:remarabito@...]
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 11:31 PM
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Service in Florida


Sorry that I haven't gotten back to you. Been busy with
housekeeping on the forum lately.

First on the alternator fault light. Do you have it with both of
the alternators. Change switch from 1 to 2 and also look at the
amps output on the dash for the chassis 12 volt system. If you have
amperage output, it could be that only one of the alternators is
bad. Any good generator shop should be able to recondition the
alternator for under $150, but that's if you deliver it. If only
one alternator is putting out, you can go into the engine
compartment on the passenger side firewall and disconnect each
alternator charging cable directly below the shunt, one at a time to
see which one is working. That's the easy part. One alternator is
mounted under the rear of the engine directly below the a/c
compressor. It is easiest removed by accessing it from the top
after removing the a/c compressor and tying it up to one side. The
lines are long enough. There is a cooling air line covering the end
of the alternator to remove also. NOW! if it's the other
alternator, that is mounted on the front of the engine near the top
and must be accessed from the bedroom floor. Not a pretty job. If
you take it to a shop, the labor will be in the neighborhood of $500
just to remove and reinstall. If you need more information on this,
let me know.

About the transmission light. I suggest you take the coach to a
local Detroit Dealer and have him check the fault codes and clear
all the old ones. The connection for the reader is located in the
lower side dash console below the shifter panel. I can email you
the fault codes and explain how to read them tomorrow. It's too
late tonight to do that.

Can't help with the generator muffler. Since you are in Florida
now, get a hold of Power Tech and they can give you some good help
with this item. Call service at 954-979-8946.

The clicking sound on the jacks is probably a bad solenoid. There
are two for the system. One is located on the front right wheel
well vertical water deflector at the front and just behing the
stepwell into the coach. Have someone feel this solenoid while you
operate the switch. If that functions, then check for power to the
one attached directly to the pump motor under the steps in the
stepwell. Stay clear of the step or get rid of all the air in the
auxiliary system so the step can't function. If you are not
comfortable with the electrical, the generator shop might be able to
troubleshoot it for you. I just recently had the main terminal
replaced on my pump motor.

Someone else on the forum should be able to give you assistance with
the curtain motors. I only have one in my coach and I've never had
any problems with it.

Hope this helps.

R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40
Moderator
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "transportcycles"
wrote:
> Just purchased, and moved from Cincinnati, OH area to Orland area
a
> 1991 WLWB. New to both motorhoming and Bluebirds, although I've
> always had a fondness for the older birds.
>
> Need to have several things looked at including Alternators (Fault
> light is on), transmission (light came on on trip down, checked
fluid
> and added 2 quarts, but light stayed on), new generator muffler
(looks
> like a real job to get at), leveling jacks (clicking noise but
nothing
> moves), electric curtain operators (some work and some don't). I
> boought from a dealer in Cincy that really didn't have a clue
about
> Bluebirds. Any help with shops that could help with any of these
> services would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Tom Gibbs




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[ronmarabito2002]

There is no question that the Detroit Dealer would be the place to
choose. Parliament and Vantare would do for many of the other
things.

R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40
Moderator


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Tom Gibbs"
wrote:
> Thanks for both posts. Lots of useful info. Would you think that
> Florida Detroit Diesel would be a better choice for the
> engine/transmission stuff than Parliament or Vantare?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: William Jensen [mailto:fljensen@b...]
> Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 10:37 PM
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Service in Florida
>
>
> Tom:
>
> Had another thought.....You may want to talk to Vantare Coach in
> Sanford. They may be willing to work on your coach too. I don't
know
> this for sure.......but they often take wanderlodges in for trades
on
> the Prevost conversions. I'm not sure where in Orlando are you
are,
> but that may save you some miles.
>
> Your generator is made by Powertech. These units are built in
> Leesburg, FL, just up the road from you. They will only work on
your
> gennie, don't know if they are in the muffler business.
>
> It is often hard to find one shop that will address all your
needs.
> Part of the problem when you have so many different systems on a
coach.
>
> Sorry about the double post.
>
> William Jensen
> 1993 PT40 WBWL "Maudi"
> Deerfield Beach, FL
>
> On the road to W. Virginia in the AM.........need to get out of
the
> rain down here. 14 inches in the month of June so far!!!
>
>
>
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[ronmarabito2002]

Make sure you have a load on the system when checking the
alternators. Turn on your headlights. If you get nothing, then the
alternators are not putting out or there is a circuit breaker or
relay bad in the system. The alternators are controlled by 6 relays
in the coach battery compartment. Look at the top of the opening on
the left side. Benny at BB could send you a copy of the wiring or I
have a copy if you need it. After loading the system and checking
the switch, I suggest you have a good generator shop look at it.

R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40
Moderator


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Tom Gibbs"
wrote:
> Ron,
> Thanks a lot for all the information. I get no output when the
switch
> is in either direction and when in the middle, just a slight move
of the
> needle.
>
> Tom Gibbs
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ronmarabito2002 [mailto:remarabito@a...]
> Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 11:31 PM
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Service in Florida
>
>
> Sorry that I haven't gotten back to you. Been busy with
> housekeeping on the forum lately.
>
> First on the alternator fault light. Do you have it with both of
> the alternators. Change switch from 1 to 2 and also look at the
> amps output on the dash for the chassis 12 volt system. If you
have
> amperage output, it could be that only one of the alternators is
> bad. Any good generator shop should be able to recondition the
> alternator for under $150, but that's if you deliver it. If only
> one alternator is putting out, you can go into the engine
> compartment on the passenger side firewall and disconnect each
> alternator charging cable directly below the shunt, one at a time
to
> see which one is working. That's the easy part. One alternator
is
> mounted under the rear of the engine directly below the a/c
> compressor. It is easiest removed by accessing it from the top
> after removing the a/c compressor and tying it up to one side.
The
> lines are long enough. There is a cooling air line covering the
end
> of the alternator to remove also. NOW! if it's the other
> alternator, that is mounted on the front of the engine near the
top
> and must be accessed from the bedroom floor. Not a pretty job.
If
> you take it to a shop, the labor will be in the neighborhood of
$500
> just to remove and reinstall. If you need more information on
this,
> let me know.
>
> About the transmission light. I suggest you take the coach to a
> local Detroit Dealer and have him check the fault codes and clear
> all the old ones. The connection for the reader is located in the
> lower side dash console below the shifter panel. I can email you
> the fault codes and explain how to read them tomorrow. It's too
> late tonight to do that.
>
> Can't help with the generator muffler. Since you are in Florida
> now, get a hold of Power Tech and they can give you some good help
> with this item. Call service at 954-979-8946.
>
> The clicking sound on the jacks is probably a bad solenoid. There
> are two for the system. One is located on the front right wheel
> well vertical water deflector at the front and just behing the
> stepwell into the coach. Have someone feel this solenoid while
you
> operate the switch. If that functions, then check for power to
the
> one attached directly to the pump motor under the steps in the
> stepwell. Stay clear of the step or get rid of all the air in the
> auxiliary system so the step can't function. If you are not
> comfortable with the electrical, the generator shop might be able
to
> troubleshoot it for you. I just recently had the main terminal
> replaced on my pump motor.
>
> Someone else on the forum should be able to give you assistance
with
> the curtain motors. I only have one in my coach and I've never
had
> any problems with it.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40
> Moderator
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "transportcycles"
> wrote:
> > Just purchased, and moved from Cincinnati, OH area to Orland
area
> a
> > 1991 WLWB. New to both motorhoming and Bluebirds, although I've
> > always had a fondness for the older birds.
> >
> > Need to have several things looked at including Alternators
(Fault
> > light is on), transmission (light came on on trip down, checked
> fluid
> > and added 2 quarts, but light stayed on), new generator muffler
> (looks
> > like a real job to get at), leveling jacks (clicking noise but
> nothing
> > moves), electric curtain operators (some work and some don't).
I
> > boought from a dealer in Cincy that really didn't have a clue
> about
> > Bluebirds. Any help with shops that could help with any of
these
> > services would be greatly appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
> > Tom Gibbs
>
>
>
>
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[Tom Gibbs]

Thanks again. I'll give them a call.

-----Original Message-----
From: ronmarabito2002 [mailto:remarabito@...]
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 3:27 PM
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Service in Florida


There is no question that the Detroit Dealer would be the place to
choose. Parliament and Vantare would do for many of the other
things.

R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40
Moderator


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Tom Gibbs"
wrote:
> Thanks for both posts. Lots of useful info. Would you think that
> Florida Detroit Diesel would be a better choice for the
> engine/transmission stuff than Parliament or Vantare?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: William Jensen [mailto:fljensen@b...]
> Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 10:37 PM
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Service in Florida
>
>
> Tom:
>
> Had another thought.....You may want to talk to Vantare Coach in
> Sanford. They may be willing to work on your coach too. I don't
know
> this for sure.......but they often take wanderlodges in for trades
on
> the Prevost conversions. I'm not sure where in Orlando are you
are,
> but that may save you some miles.
>
> Your generator is made by Powertech. These units are built in
> Leesburg, FL, just up the road from you. They will only work on
your
> gennie, don't know if they are in the muffler business.
>
> It is often hard to find one shop that will address all your
needs.
> Part of the problem when you have so many different systems on a
coach.
>
> Sorry about the double post.
>
> William Jensen
> 1993 PT40 WBWL "Maudi"
> Deerfield Beach, FL
>
> On the road to W. Virginia in the AM.........need to get out of
the
> rain down here. 14 inches in the month of June so far!!!
>
>
>
>
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[randydupree]

thats where they would take it.engines and trannys today are too complicated for
the average shop to deal with.randydupree93wb
----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Gibbs
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 12:29 PM
Subject: RE: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Service in Florida


Thanks for both posts. Lots of useful info. Would you think that
Florida Detroit Diesel would be a better choice for the
engine/transmission stuff than Parliament or Vantare?

-----Original Message-----
From: William Jensen [mailto:fljensen@...]
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 10:37 PM
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Service in Florida


Tom:

Had another thought.....You may want to talk to Vantare Coach in
Sanford. They may be willing to work on your coach too. I don't know
this for sure.......but they often take wanderlodges in for trades on
the Prevost conversions. I'm not sure where in Orlando are you are,
but that may save you some miles.

Your generator is made by Powertech. These units are built in
Leesburg, FL, just up the road from you. They will only work on your
gennie, don't know if they are in the muffler business.

It is often hard to find one shop that will address all your needs.
Part of the problem when you have so many different systems on a coach.

Sorry about the double post.

William Jensen
1993 PT40 WBWL "Maudi"
Deerfield Beach, FL

On the road to W. Virginia in the AM.........need to get out of the
rain down here. 14 inches in the month of June so far!!!




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[fl_bluebird_1983]

You might give lazy Days RV a call they are near I75 on I4 (east of
tampa) they told me they had a BlueBird Tech on site. They are one of
the largest RV dealers in the country and have over 80 service bays and
three full size paint booths. I have never taken my bird there, but I
know other with buses that have.


Thanks
Bruce Campbell (currently at the Birds Nest)
Clearwater, FL
83'FCSB
"Blue Skies"
formerly "Rainbow Chaser", darn those stripes are hard to get
off "sorry Arley!"





--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "transportcycles"
wrote:
> Just purchased, and moved from Cincinnati, OH area to Orland area a
> 1991 WLWB. New to both motorhoming and Bluebirds, although I've
> always had a fondness for the older birds.
>
> Need to have several things looked at including Alternators (Fault
> light is on), transmission (light came on on trip down, checked fluid
> and added 2 quarts, but light stayed on), new generator muffler
(looks
> like a real job to get at), leveling jacks (clicking noise but
nothing
> moves), electric curtain operators (some work and some don't). I
> boought from a dealer in Cincy that really didn't have a clue about
> Bluebirds. Any help with shops that could help with any of these
> services would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Tom Gibbs

[Tom Gibbs]

Thanks. I've been there when we were shopping. Very impressive place.

-----Original Message-----
From: fl_bluebird_1983 [mailto:fl_bluebird_1983@...]
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 8:59 PM
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re:Service in Florida



You might give lazy Days RV a call they are near I75 on I4 (east of
tampa) they told me they had a BlueBird Tech on site. They are one of
the largest RV dealers in the country and have over 80 service bays and
three full size paint booths. I have never taken my bird there, but I
know other with buses that have.


Thanks
Bruce Campbell (currently at the Birds Nest)
Clearwater, FL
83'FCSB
"Blue Skies"
formerly "Rainbow Chaser", darn those stripes are hard to get
off "sorry Arley!"





--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "transportcycles"
wrote:
> Just purchased, and moved from Cincinnati, OH area to Orland area a
> 1991 WLWB. New to both motorhoming and Bluebirds, although I've
> always had a fondness for the older birds.
>
> Need to have several things looked at including Alternators (Fault
> light is on), transmission (light came on on trip down, checked fluid
> and added 2 quarts, but light stayed on), new generator muffler
(looks
> like a real job to get at), leveling jacks (clicking noise but
nothing
> moves), electric curtain operators (some work and some don't). I
> boought from a dealer in Cincy that really didn't have a clue about
> Bluebirds. Any help with shops that could help with any of these
> services would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Tom Gibbs




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[pbe43]

Hi Where did you get the wheels for the motor that works the side
curtains? Have looked all over. What was the cost?
Thanks Greg

[Curt Sprenger]

Greg,

Below is a note to myself regarding the drape tires.*
*

*
Drape Tires (electric drapes)*

February 14, 2005

Spring Window Fashions says tires are obsolete and to call .

Somfy Systems 800 637-6639

One set (3 tires), cost is $16.17

Ordered 4 sets.

Received 4 sets.

Curt Sprenger 1987 PT38, Anaheim Hills, Calif.



pbe43 wrote:

> Hi Where did you get the wheels for the motor that works the side
> curtains? Have looked all over. What was the cost?
> Thanks Greg
>
>