Rear Hydraulic jack removal

[jburgessx2]

I jacked my 85 PT40 too high this week (really sloped RV spot) and ended up
slipping off the jack. I didn't know the rear jacks were on an axis and
swiveled. As such, it fell and sheared off the hydraulic fitting on top of the
jack (yes, go figure - the hose didn't break because the fitting did). So, I
need to remove the jack, have the remainder of the fitting removed from the
threads, and install a new fitting.

From what I can see, there is no way to remove the jack without removing the
tires. The pivot bolt seems impossible to reach on the inside of the jack. I
also tried to remove the bolts on the side nearest the tires. Unfortunately, I
can get the bolts loose and the nuts off but can't remove the bolts completely
because they are too long and the tire gets in the way.

Is it possible to remove the remaining part of the fitting without removing the
jack? There is nothing to grip so it will require a tool to be inserted to
remove the remainder.

Am I missing a step? Is there an easier way for me to get these off without
removing the tires? We full-time in our Bluebird so it can be inconvenient to
drop off at a shop when both of us work and all our valuables are inside. Of
course, I can always take a day off and do it but was hoping to do it myself and
save some money. My experience with many mechanics is they are slow and
expensive and something that takes me two hours takes them either.

Any help would be appreciated.

Jerry
85 PT40

[Ralph L. Fullenwider]

Hi Jerry:

Yes! Pull the tag tire and that will allow you the room needed to get and
easy out into the broken fitting on top of the jack, be sure to check the
other side as well as they usually go at the same time when this happens.
This is an easy fix really. A pipe fitting easy out is preferred but the
right size regular will do as well.

Safe travels,

Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider
"84FC35 "Ruff Diamond"
Duncan, Oklahoma

At 12:34 AM 11/6/2010 +0000, you wrote:
>I jacked my 85 PT40 too high this week (really sloped RV spot) and ended
>up slipping off the jack. I didn't know the rear jacks were on an axis
>and swiveled. As such, it fell and sheared off the hydraulic fitting on
>top of the jack (yes, go figure - the hose didn't break because the
>fitting did). So, I need to remove the jack, have the remainder of the
>fitting removed from the threads, and install a new fitting.
>
> From what I can see, there is no way to remove the jack without removing
> the tires. The pivot bolt seems impossible to reach on the inside of the
> jack. I also tried to remove the bolts on the side nearest the
> tires. Unfortunately, I can get the bolts loose and the nuts off but
> can't remove the bolts completely because they are too long and the tire
> gets in the way.
>
>Is it possible to remove the remaining part of the fitting without
>removing the jack? There is nothing to grip so it will require a tool to
>be inserted to remove the remainder.
>
>Am I missing a step? Is there an easier way for me to get these off
>without removing the tires? We full-time in our Bluebird so it can be
>inconvenient to drop off at a shop when both of us work and all our
>valuables are inside. Of course, I can always take a day off and do it
>but was hoping to do it myself and save some money. My experience with
>many mechanics is they are slow and expensive and something that takes me
>two hours takes them either.
>
>Any help would be appreciated.
>
>Jerry
>85 PT40
>
>
>

[jburgessx2]

Ralph,

Thanks for the response. It will certainly make the job easier if I don't have
to take too many things apart. I hope the easy-out can removed that portion
with no problems. Since we fulltime, I really like the jacks to take some
weight off the tires and to take the bounce out. I'll let you know how it
worked out.

Jerry
85 PT40

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Ralph L. Fullenwider"
wrote:
>
> Hi Jerry:
>
> Yes! Pull the tag tire and that will allow you the room needed to get and
> easy out into the broken fitting on top of the jack, be sure to check the
> other side as well as they usually go at the same time when this happens.
> This is an easy fix really. A pipe fitting easy out is preferred but the
> right size regular will do as well.
>
> Safe travels,
>
> Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider
> "84FC35 "Ruff Diamond"
> Duncan, Oklahoma
>
> At 12:34 AM 11/6/2010 +0000, you wrote:
> >I jacked my 85 PT40 too high this week (really sloped RV spot) and ended
> >up slipping off the jack. I didn't know the rear jacks were on an axis
> >and swiveled. As such, it fell and sheared off the hydraulic fitting on
> >top of the jack (yes, go figure - the hose didn't break because the
> >fitting did). So, I need to remove the jack, have the remainder of the
> >fitting removed from the threads, and install a new fitting.
> >
> > From what I can see, there is no way to remove the jack without removing
> > the tires. The pivot bolt seems impossible to reach on the inside of the
> > jack. I also tried to remove the bolts on the side nearest the
> > tires. Unfortunately, I can get the bolts loose and the nuts off but
> > can't remove the bolts completely because they are too long and the tire
> > gets in the way.
> >
> >Is it possible to remove the remaining part of the fitting without
> >removing the jack? There is nothing to grip so it will require a tool to
> >be inserted to remove the remainder.
> >
> >Am I missing a step? Is there an easier way for me to get these off
> >without removing the tires? We full-time in our Bluebird so it can be
> >inconvenient to drop off at a shop when both of us work and all our
> >valuables are inside. Of course, I can always take a day off and do it
> >but was hoping to do it myself and save some money. My experience with
> >many mechanics is they are slow and expensive and something that takes me
> >two hours takes them either.
> >
> >Any help would be appreciated.
> >
> >Jerry
> >85 PT40
> >
> >
> >
>

[Curt Sprenger]

Jerry,

You are not alone..I had had the same thing happen a couple years ago.

I suggest purchasing two heavy duty rubber (big rig) wheel chocks. 

Curt Sprenger
1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"

Anaheim Hills, CA

On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 10:10 AM, jburgessx2 <"jburgessx2@yahoo.com"> wrote:

 

Ralph,



Thanks for the response. It will certainly make the job easier if I don't have to take too many things apart. I hope the easy-out can removed that portion with no problems. Since we fulltime, I really like the jacks to take some weight off the tires and to take the bounce out. I'll let you know how it worked out.



Jerry

85 PT40

--- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", "Ralph L. Fullenwider" wrote:

>

> Hi Jerry:

>

> Yes! Pull the tag tire and that will allow you the room needed to get and

> easy out into the broken fitting on top of the jack, be sure to check the

> other side as well as they usually go at the same time when this happens.

> This is an easy fix really. A pipe fitting easy out is preferred but the

> right size regular will do as well.

>

> Safe travels,

>

> Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider

> "84FC35 "Ruff Diamond"

> Duncan, Oklahoma

>

> At 12:34 AM 11/6/2010 +0000, you wrote:

> >I jacked my 85 PT40 too high this week (really sloped RV spot) and ended

> >up slipping off the jack. I didn't know the rear jacks were on an axis

> >and swiveled. As such, it fell and sheared off the hydraulic fitting on

> >top of the jack (yes, go figure - the hose didn't break because the

> >fitting did). So, I need to remove the jack, have the remainder of the

> >fitting removed from the threads, and install a new fitting.

> >

> > From what I can see, there is no way to remove the jack without removing

> > the tires. The pivot bolt seems impossible to reach on the inside of the

> > jack. I also tried to remove the bolts on the side nearest the

> > tires. Unfortunately, I can get the bolts loose and the nuts off but

> > can't remove the bolts completely because they are too long and the tire

> > gets in the way.

> >

> >Is it possible to remove the remaining part of the fitting without

> >removing the jack? There is nothing to grip so it will require a tool to

> >be inserted to remove the remainder.

> >

> >Am I missing a step? Is there an easier way for me to get these off

> >without removing the tires? We full-time in our Bluebird so it can be

> >inconvenient to drop off at a shop when both of us work and all our

> >valuables are inside. Of course, I can always take a day off and do it

> >but was hoping to do it myself and save some money. My experience with

> >many mechanics is they are slow and expensive and something that takes me

> >two hours takes them either.

> >

> >Any help would be appreciated.

> >

> >Jerry

> >85 PT40

> >

> >

> >

>

[jburgessx2@...]

Curt,

Oddly, I do feel better that I'm not the only one. Did you break a line or connector? Or, just fall off the jacks? I've already made some platforms to drive the rear wheels on to cut down on jack height and to add some more stability whenb jacked. Also, I've made platforms to go under the jacks to lower the length they have to extend, thus reducing the risks. The wheels chocks would have come in handy a few days ago!

I had an idea this might happen so I was all set to fix it on the weekend. Unfortunately, the coach couldn't wait till the weekend before falling. Valuable lesson learned....I just hate this school of hard knocks.....

Jerry
85 PT40

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Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2010 12:52:56 -0800

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Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Rear Hydraulic jack removal

Jerry,

You are not alone..I had had the same thing happen a couple years ago.

I suggest purchasing two heavy duty rubber (big rig) wheel chocks. 

Curt Sprenger
1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"

Anaheim Hills, CA

On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 10:10 AM, jburgessx2 <"jburgessx2@yahoo.com"> wrote:

 

Ralph,



Thanks for the response. It will certainly make the job easier if I don't have to take too many things apart. I hope the easy-out can removed that portion with no problems. Since we fulltime, I really like the jacks to take some weight off the tires and to take the bounce out. I'll let you know how it worked out.



Jerry

85 PT40

--- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", "Ralph L. Fullenwider" wrote:

>

> Hi Jerry:

>

> Yes! Pull the tag tire and that will allow you the room needed to get and

> easy out into the broken fitting on top of the jack, be sure to check the

> other side as well as they usually go at the same time when this happens.

> This is an easy fix really. A pipe fitting easy out is preferred but the

> right size regular will do as well.

>

> Safe travels,

>

> Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider

> "84FC35 "Ruff Diamond"

> Duncan, Oklahoma

>

> At 12:34 AM 11/6/2010 +0000, you wrote:

> >I jacked my 85 PT40 too high this week (really sloped RV spot) and ended

> >up slipping off the jack. I didn't know the rear jacks were on an axis

> >and swiveled. As such, it fell and sheared off the hydraulic fitting on

> >top of the jack (yes, go figure - the hose didn't break because the

> >fitting did). So, I need to remove the jack, have the remainder of the

> >fitting removed from the threads, and install a new fitting.

> >

> > From what I can see, there is no way to remove the jack without removing

> > the tires. The pivot bolt seems impossible to reach on the inside of the

> > jack. I also tried to remove the bolts on the side nearest the

> > tires. Unfortunately, I can get the bolts loose and the nuts off but

> > can't remove the bolts completely because they are too long and the tire

> > gets in the way.

> >

> >Is it possible to remove the remaining part of the fitting without

> >removing the jack? There is nothing to grip so it will require a tool to

> >be inserted to remove the remainder.

> >

> >Am I missing a step? Is there an easier way for me to get these off

> >without removing the tires? We full-time in our Bluebird so it can be

> >inconvenient to drop off at a shop when both of us work and all our

> >valuables are inside. Of course, I can always take a day off and do it

> >but was hoping to do it myself and save some money. My experience with

> >many mechanics is they are slow and expensive and something that takes me

> >two hours takes them either.

> >

> >Any help would be appreciated.

> >

> >Jerry

> >85 PT40

> >

> >

> >

>

[Curt Sprenger]

Jerry,

The connector broke. I do not recall if it broke off at the jack or left something to get a wrench on. It was an easy fix. Removed both tag wheels...took the old stuff with me and had the hose store make up new and slightly longer hoses...longer hoses thinking if the coach does this again it won't destroy the hoses or fittings.    


Curt Sprenger
1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
Anaheim Hills, CA

On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 1:15 PM, <"jburgessx2@yahoo.com"> wrote:

 

Curt,

Oddly, I do feel better that I'm not the only one. Did you break a line or connector? Or, just fall off the jacks? I've already made some platforms to drive the rear wheels on to cut down on jack height and to add some more stability whenb jacked. Also, I've made platforms to go under the jacks to lower the length they have to extend, thus reducing the risks. The wheels chocks would have come in handy a few days ago!


I had an idea this might happen so I was all set to fix it on the weekend. Unfortunately, the coach couldn't wait till the weekend before falling. Valuable lesson learned....I just hate this school of hard knocks.....


Jerry
85 PT40

Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

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From: Curt Sprenger <"curtsprenger@gmail.com">

Sender: "WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com"

Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2010 12:52:56 -0800

To: <"WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com">

ReplyTo: "WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com"

Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Rear Hydraulic jack removal

 

Jerry,

You are not alone..I had had the same thing happen a couple years ago.

I suggest purchasing two heavy duty rubber (big rig) wheel chocks. 

Curt Sprenger
1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"

Anaheim Hills, CA

On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 10:10 AM, jburgessx2 <"jburgessx2@yahoo.com"> wrote:

 

Ralph,



Thanks for the response. It will certainly make the job easier if I don't have to take too many things apart. I hope the easy-out can removed that portion with no problems. Since we fulltime, I really like the jacks to take some weight off the tires and to take the bounce out. I'll let you know how it worked out.



Jerry

85 PT40

--- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", "Ralph L. Fullenwider" wrote:

>

> Hi Jerry:

>

> Yes! Pull the tag tire and that will allow you the room needed to get and

> easy out into the broken fitting on top of the jack, be sure to check the

> other side as well as they usually go at the same time when this happens.

> This is an easy fix really. A pipe fitting easy out is preferred but the

> right size regular will do as well.

>

> Safe travels,

>

> Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider

> "84FC35 "Ruff Diamond"

> Duncan, Oklahoma

>

> At 12:34 AM 11/6/2010 +0000, you wrote:

> >I jacked my 85 PT40 too high this week (really sloped RV spot) and ended

> >up slipping off the jack. I didn't know the rear jacks were on an axis

> >and swiveled. As such, it fell and sheared off the hydraulic fitting on

> >top of the jack (yes, go figure - the hose didn't break because the

> >fitting did). So, I need to remove the jack, have the remainder of the

> >fitting removed from the threads, and install a new fitting.

> >

> > From what I can see, there is no way to remove the jack without removing

> > the tires. The pivot bolt seems impossible to reach on the inside of the

> > jack. I also tried to remove the bolts on the side nearest the

> > tires. Unfortunately, I can get the bolts loose and the nuts off but

> > can't remove the bolts completely because they are too long and the tire

> > gets in the way.

> >

> >Is it possible to remove the remaining part of the fitting without

> >removing the jack? There is nothing to grip so it will require a tool to

> >be inserted to remove the remainder.

> >

> >Am I missing a step? Is there an easier way for me to get these off

> >without removing the tires? We full-time in our Bluebird so it can be

> >inconvenient to drop off at a shop when both of us work and all our

> >valuables are inside. Of course, I can always take a day off and do it

> >but was hoping to do it myself and save some money. My experience with

> >many mechanics is they are slow and expensive and something that takes me

> >two hours takes them either.

> >

> >Any help would be appreciated.

> >

> >Jerry

> >85 PT40

> >

> >

> >

>

[GARY MINKER]

I put swivels on all of mine, it helps gary 85pt40 --- On Sun, 11/7/10, Curt Sprenger wrote: From: Curt Sprenger Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Rear Hydraulic jack removal To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, November 7, 2010, 6:50 PM Jerry, The connector broke. I do not recall if it broke off at the jack or left something to get a wrench on. It was an easy fix. Removed both tag wheels...took the old stuff with me and had the hose store make up new and slightly longer hoses...longer hoses thinking if the coach does this again it won't destroy the hoses or fittings. Curt Sprenger 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing" Anaheim Hills, CA On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 1:15 PM, <jburgessx2@...> wrote: Curt, Oddly, I do feel better that I'm not the only one. Did you break a line or connector? Or, just fall off the jacks? I've already made some platforms to drive the rear wheels on to cut down on jack height and to add some more stability whenb jacked. Also, I've made platforms to go under the jacks to lower the length they have to extend, thus reducing the risks. The wheels chocks would have come in handy a few days ago! I had an idea this might happen so I was all set to fix it on the weekend. Unfortunately, the coach couldn't wait till the weekend before falling. Valuable lesson learned....I just hate this school of hard knocks..... Jerry 85 PT40 Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile From: Curt Sprenger <curtsprenger@...> Sender: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2010 12:52:56 -0800 To: <WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com> ReplyTo: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Rear Hydraulic jack removal Jerry, You are not alone..I had had the same thing happen a couple years ago. I suggest purchasing two heavy duty rubber (big rig) wheel chocks. Curt Sprenger 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing" Anaheim Hills, CA On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 10:10 AM, jburgessx2 <jburgessx2@...> wrote: Ralph, Thanks for the response. It will certainly make the job easier if I don't have to take too many things apart. I hope the easy-out can removed that portion with no problems. Since we fulltime, I really like the jacks to take some weight off the tires and to take the bounce out. I'll let you know how it worked out. Jerry 85 PT40 --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Ralph L. Fullenwider" wrote: > > Hi Jerry: > > Yes! Pull the tag tire and that will allow you the room needed to get and > easy out into the broken fitting on top of the jack, be sure to check the > other side as well as they usually go at the same time when this happens. > This is an easy fix really. A pipe fitting easy out is preferred but the > right size regular will do as well. > > Safe travels, > > Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider > "84FC35 "Ruff Diamond" > Duncan, Oklahoma > > At 12:34 AM 11/6/2010 +0000, you wrote: > >I jacked my 85 PT40 too high this week (really sloped RV spot) and ended > >up slipping off the jack. I didn't know the rear jacks were on an axis > >and swiveled. As such, it fell and sheared off the hydraulic fitting on > >top of the jack (yes, go figure - the hose didn't break because the > >fitting did). So, I need to remove the jack, have the remainder of the > >fitting removed from the threads, and install a new fitting. > > > > From what I can see, there is no way to remove the jack without removing > > the tires. The pivot bolt seems impossible to reach on the inside of the > > jack. I also tried to remove the bolts on the side nearest the > > tires. Unfortunately, I can get the bolts loose and the nuts off but > > can't remove the bolts completely because they are too long and the tire > > gets in the way. > > > >Is it possible to remove the remaining part of the fitting without > >removing the jack? There is nothing to grip so it will require a tool to > >be inserted to remove the remainder. > > > >Am I missing a step? Is there an easier way for me to get these off > >without removing the tires? We full-time in our Bluebird so it can be > >inconvenient to drop off at a shop when both of us work and all our > >valuables are inside. Of course, I can always take a day off and do it > >but was hoping to do it myself and save some money. My experience with > >many mechanics is they are slow and expensive and something that takes me > >two hours takes them either. > > > >Any help would be appreciated. > > > >Jerry > >85 PT40 > > > > > > >