Thanks...... for the response.....

[GRSmith, 111]

I'll have to say that SOME bluebirds are like SOME Harley's.......... IF you
have one that is Pretty much "MINT" then the books that tell you the value can
be thrown out the windows..... IF you ever fooled with Harley's I guess you know
what I mean..... I've seen some in the late 40's and 50's go for prices that I
couldn't even imagine... JUST Because they were PRISTINE......... Some people
place different values on things than others....... Maybe it's because they have
more to give .......... I 'm not sure........ All we did was advertise this
coach ........... and tell the truth.... We never twisted anyone's arms to BID
... you can be trusted...... All the bids came from great distances...... for
the most part....Have a good christmas........ Wish You well.... Crusademan and
Tom .......

Gregory OConnor wrote: We agree on the goodness of
god but It doesnt take 50G's for me to
express my praise. I'll pray for the folk at the giving end of the
wicker basket you pass. If the fat lady sings in this deal, the
eggnog had a lasting effect. Cognative disonance and buyer remource
is easy to ease with scripture and isle rolling......... Merry
Christmass Crusademan

GregoryO'Connor
69Travco, Pottersville

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "GRSmith, 111"
wrote:
>
> We did not do anything to misrepresent this coach in any way.....
trust me..... It's an incredible coach...... believe it or not.......
and I have a 1988 .... that is almost as clean as this one with only
114K miles..... super service & maintenance all it's life.... garage
kept for 13 years....... PT 40 ..... awesome.... trying to
decide...... getting in to the charter coach business..... LORD
WILLING.... pray for me...... YOu guys are great.... Crusademan
>
> mbulriss <mbulriss@...> wrote: What a incredible Christmas
present for that seller. That certainly
> is top of the market. Hope the money shows up.
>
> At that price it sure makes my prior 83PT40 (Stagecoach) seem
> incredibly cheap at the current owner's asking price of $43,000.
> hmmmmm...... hype pays off, I guess.
>
> Since they just joined the forum last week to promote the sale, now
we
> get to see if the seller 'Ole Tom' and the marketer 'Crusademan'
stick
> around to participate on the forum, or unsubscribe now that the sale
> is done.......... Hopefully, they will stick around and share some
of
> Ole Tom's repair and upkeep tips.
>
> Mike Bulriss
> 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
> San Antonio, TX (currently on South Padre Island)
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "dthollis1961"
> wrote:
> >
> > Merry Christmas!!!
> >
> > David Hollis 84 FC35 Springfield,IL
> >
>
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[Gregory OConnor]

Third person authorship of the seller combined to the after purchase
stance of "didnt twist an arm", "no misrepresentation" smells. Then
the confusion of 'He has for sale' and 'I have for sale'. Posted
questons that do as much advertising as the 'answers from the
pulpit'. Now after the gut wrenching sale of the beloveded bird
you ;or he ;or you both ;or he and his wife ;or the three of you
decided to part with the other 1988pt. Please....

I was turned off at the start by "no pets"

GregoryO'Connor
Molly, Snoopy, Daffie,
Lucy, Gretta, Piglett,
Nash, Hillary, and Roxie
and oh yea..........Tim
94ptRomolandCa

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "GRSmith, 111"
wrote:
>
> I'll have to say that SOME bluebirds are like SOME
Harley's.......... IF you have one that is Pretty much "MINT" then
the books that tell you the value can be thrown out the windows.....
IF you ever fooled with Harley's I guess you know what I mean.....
I've seen some in the late 40's and 50's go for prices that I
couldn't even imagine... JUST Because they were PRISTINE.........
Some people place different values on things than others....... Maybe
it's because they have more to give .......... I 'm not sure........
All we did was advertise this coach ........... and tell the
truth.... We never twisted anyone's arms to BID ... you can be
trusted...... All the bids came from great distances...... for the
most part....Have a good christmas........ Wish You well....
Crusademan and Tom .......
>
> Gregory OConnor wrote: We agree on the
goodness of god but It doesnt take 50G's for me to
> express my praise. I'll pray for the folk at the giving end of the
> wicker basket you pass. If the fat lady sings in this deal, the
> eggnog had a lasting effect. Cognative disonance and buyer remource
> is easy to ease with scripture and isle rolling......... Merry
> Christmass Crusademan
>
> GregoryO'Connor
> 69Travco, Pottersville
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "GRSmith, 111"
> wrote:
> >
> > We did not do anything to misrepresent this coach in any way.....
> trust me..... It's an incredible coach...... believe it or
not.......
> and I have a 1988 .... that is almost as clean as this one with
only
> 114K miles..... super service & maintenance all it's life....
garage
> kept for 13 years....... PT 40 ..... awesome.... trying to
> decide...... getting in to the charter coach business..... LORD
> WILLING.... pray for me...... YOu guys are great.... Crusademan
> >
> > mbulriss <mbulriss@> wrote: What a incredible Christmas
> present for that seller. That certainly
> > is top of the market. Hope the money shows up.
> >
> > At that price it sure makes my prior 83PT40 (Stagecoach) seem
> > incredibly cheap at the current owner's asking price of $43,000.
> > hmmmmm...... hype pays off, I guess.
> >
> > Since they just joined the forum last week to promote the sale,
now
> we
> > get to see if the seller 'Ole Tom' and the marketer 'Crusademan'
> stick
> > around to participate on the forum, or unsubscribe now that the
sale
> > is done.......... Hopefully, they will stick around and share
some
> of
> > Ole Tom's repair and upkeep tips.
> >
> > Mike Bulriss
> > 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
> > San Antonio, TX (currently on South Padre Island)
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "dthollis1961"

> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Merry Christmas!!!
> > >
> > > David Hollis 84 FC35 Springfield,IL
> > >
> >
> >
> >
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[Tom Warner]

OK now that you have opened pandoras box I have a little more to say.
Please dont keep saying "the coach was pretty much MINT". Bluebirds
are not vintage Harley Davidsons we polish and show off at shows. The
bluebirds are used by our members when ever they get a chance and are
depended on to give service where ever we chose to go with them. For
some they live in them full time and its not nice to break down
beside the road in a beautiful motorhome you thought was MINT. I am
not saying the 1983 FC35 is not a nice coach but what I am saying is
I have no way of knowing by the information you provided.

The exterior was exceptionally nice but you produced nothing that
indicated the rest of the coach was MINT. What was sold was a 1983
FC 35 in very nice EXTERNAL condition. As far as the way you
described it there was no way of telling what condition the engine,
transmission and rear end were in since it had over 120,000 miles on
them. Was the coolant kept up so there was no block deterioration
during its life? Have the injectors, seals etc been replaced anytime
during its life? Valves and rack adjusted? Original brake chambers
and hoses? Original battery boilers still installed? Batteries when
were they replaced and what kind are they? And what condition are the
roof A/C in and are they originals? The fact is you concentrated on
the condition of the exterior of the coach and totally avoided
pictures of the engine, radiator system, generator etc made me suspicious.

In my opinion it doesnt matter at this point what the condition of
the coach was or if the winning buyer paid to much or to little for
the coach. What IS important at least to me and the reason I support
this forum is that hopefully members of this forum will have learned
a lesson because of the comments some of us have made. This forum was
started to assist each other in maintaining our coaches in good
condition and advise those less capable of upgrades to our coaches
that may be of value to other members. I believe we also have a
responsibility to EDUCATE members that are looking for a bluebird as
to how to properly evaluate and find a bluebird that proves to be of
value to them. That means I would advise someone looking for a
Bluebird to look at the entire coach and not just at the exterior or
it. Also I would advise anyone looking for a bluebird to make full
use of this forum by asking questions about your potential
purchase.You can never ask to many questions and if you are shy and
dont ask it may cost you big money. Benjamin Franklin had a saying
which I believe is pertenent here: " Make a decison in haste and
repent at your leisure" Excellent advice since bluebirds are not
cheap. But they are a fantastic motorhome.

Tom warner
vernon center,ny
1985 PT 40


At 09:49 PM 12/25/2006, you wrote:
>I'll have to say that SOME bluebirds are like SOME
>Harley's.......... IF you have one that is Pretty much "MINT" then
>the books that tell you the value can be thrown out the windows.....
>IF you ever fooled with Harley's I guess you know what I mean.....
>I've seen some in the late 40's and 50's go for prices that I
>couldn't even imagine... JUST Because they were PRISTINE.........
>Some people place different values on things than others.......
>Maybe it's because they have more to give .......... I 'm not
>sure........ All we did was advertise this coach ........... and
>tell the truth.... We never twisted anyone's arms to BID ... you can
>be trusted...... All the bids came from great distances...... for
>the most part....Have a good christmas........ Wish You well....
>Crusademan and Tom .......
>
>Gregory OConnor wrote: We agree on the
>goodness of god but It doesnt take 50G's for me to
>express my praise. I'll pray for the folk at the giving end of the
>wicker basket you pass. If the fat lady sings in this deal, the
>eggnog had a lasting effect. Cognative disonance and buyer remource
>is easy to ease with scripture and isle rolling......... Merry
>Christmass Crusademan
>
>GregoryO'Connor
>69Travco, Pottersville
>
>--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "GRSmith, 111"
> wrote:
> >
> > We did not do anything to misrepresent this coach in any way.....
>trust me..... It's an incredible coach...... believe it or not.......
>and I have a 1988 .... that is almost as clean as this one with only
>114K miles..... super service & maintenance all it's life.... garage
>kept for 13 years....... PT 40 ..... awesome.... trying to
>decide...... getting in to the charter coach business..... LORD
>WILLING.... pray for me...... YOu guys are great.... Crusademan
> >
> > mbulriss <mbulriss@...> wrote: What a incredible Christmas
>present for that seller. That certainly
> > is top of the market. Hope the money shows up.
> >
> > At that price it sure makes my prior 83PT40 (Stagecoach) seem
> > incredibly cheap at the current owner's asking price of $43,000.
> > hmmmmm...... hype pays off, I guess.
> >
> > Since they just joined the forum last week to promote the sale, now
>we
> > get to see if the seller 'Ole Tom' and the marketer 'Crusademan'
>stick
> > around to participate on the forum, or unsubscribe now that the sale
> > is done.......... Hopefully, they will stick around and share some
>of
> > Ole Tom's repair and upkeep tips.
> >
> > Mike Bulriss
> > 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
> > San Antonio, TX (currently on South Padre Island)
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "dthollis1961"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Merry Christmas!!!
> > >
> > > David Hollis 84 FC35 Springfield,IL
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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