Locked out

[rogerwwebb@...]

On my 91, you can disassemble the window frame on the door. Specifically,
the front sliding portion of the window. Behind the rubber seal on the
rearward facing frame piece there are screws that can be removed (top and
bottom),
next remove the metal frame, slide out the glass and reach in to pull up the
door lock button. Don't know if it is the same on your 89, but it is
probably worth a look.

Roger Webb
91WBWL
Cedar Rapids, IA




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[Mike McMahan]

OK Guys, I'm stumped. Last night fueled up at the Flying J. Went
outside to finish dumping etc. When I went to go back in the coach
door was locked(small lock, not deadbolt). I got out my exra key and
unlocked the door assuming that I had hit the lock on the way out. I
went out to yhe coach a few minutes ago and the door is locked. It
appears something in the lock mechanism has come loose. The key will
not turn the lock far enougth to open. All of the windows are
locked. Anyone have an easy way in. Thanks, Mike McMahan 1989 PT 40

[Pete Masterson]

I had some problems with my 'upper' door lock... first, try a
thorough dose of graphite. It did wonders for my lock. I eventually
took the inside panel of the door off and used graphite to lubricate
the connections where the push rods link to the lock ... but 95% of
the improvement came from simply lubricating the lock generously with
graphite through the keyhole. The interior linkages are quite simple
and aren't likely to either come apart or jam up -- although anything
is possible.

Be sure you have the right key. (I have a key for the storage doors
that looks similar to the door key -- but it's different.)

If the graphite doesn't do the job -- then call a locksmith. There is
no "easy" way into a 'Bird without breaking a window. You can try to
work on the bedroom windows as they have a simple latch -- I needed
to adjust mine to get a solid lock... perhaps yours aren't latching
fully (as was mine before I fixed it) -- it's worth a shot before
breaking glass. (Pick a small window if you must break in ... one
where you can reach the lock and pull up the plunger.)

Pete Masterson
'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
aeonix1@...
On the road at Johnson CIty Texas



On Apr 19, 2007, at 5:37 PM, Mike McMahan wrote:

> OK Guys, I'm stumped. Last night fueled up at the Flying J. Went
> outside to finish dumping etc. When I went to go back in the coach
> door was locked(small lock, not deadbolt). I got out my exra key and
> unlocked the door assuming that I had hit the lock on the way out. I
> went out to yhe coach a few minutes ago and the door is locked. It
> appears something in the lock mechanism has come loose. The key will
> not turn the lock far enougth to open. All of the windows are
> locked. Anyone have an easy way in. Thanks, Mike McMahan 1989 PT 40
>

[Ralph L. Fullenwider]

Hi Mike:

While there is no easy way, there are options to consider. In the center of
the black rubber window gasket, there is a round bead. This bead expands
the gasket to form the seal and prevent the window from popping out. A
local glass shop should be able to come out, pull the bead and reach under
the gasket and work the window frame from the gasket with damage. Then of
course reinstall after the door is opened. Just a thought. An the bargman
door handle, there is a double clevis, one is for the electrical lock the
other for the manual. This is usually the item that needs to be looked
at. Now if the window comes out and you still can't get the door open then
remove the screws on the dead bolt and remove the tumbler from the out
side, then remove the 2 screws that hold the door handle/lock in place and
wiggle that out, this gets you to the locking mech and you can manipulate
it with a small screw driver or a set of tuned hammers

>

Safe travels,

Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider
84FC35
Ralph's RV Solutions, Duncan, Oklahoma

[Mike McMahan]

OK Thanks everyone for the responses. All of these suggestions will
work. I found another solution but I really don't want to post it
publically. Please call me or send me an email and I will respond to
it. Mike McMahan 1989 PT 40--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com,
rogerwwebb@... wrote:
>
> On my 91, you can disassemble the window frame on the door.
Specifically,
> the front sliding portion of the window. Behind the rubber seal
on the
> rearward facing frame piece there are screws that can be removed
(top and bottom),
> next remove the metal frame, slide out the glass and reach in to
pull up the
> door lock button. Don't know if it is the same on your 89, but
it is
> probably worth a look.
>
> Roger Webb
> 91WBWL
> Cedar Rapids, IA
>
>
>
>
> ************************************** See what's free at
http://www.aol.com.
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

[Curt Sprenger]

Yup...and then we worry about break-in. The front windshield is an easy
entry for those that want to get in without our permission. I got to
thinking about this a week ago as I installed a new drivers side
windshield.

By the way, fyi, one windshield was cracked upon deliver. Bluebird sent
out another one at no charge. That's great service.

Curt Sprenger
1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
Anaheim Hills, Calif.



Ralph L. Fullenwider wrote:

> Hi Mike:
>
> While there is no easy way, there are options to consider. In the
> center of
> the black rubber window gasket, there is a round bead. This bead expands
> the gasket to form the seal and prevent the window from popping out. A
> local glass shop should be able to come out, pull the bead and reach
> under
> the gasket and work the window frame from the gasket with damage. Then of
> course reinstall after the door is opened. Just a thought. An the bargman
> door handle, there is a double clevis, one is for the electrical lock the
> other for the manual. This is usually the item that needs to be looked
> at. Now if the window comes out and you still can't get the door open
> then
> remove the screws on the dead bolt and remove the tumbler from the out
> side, then remove the 2 screws that hold the door handle/lock in place
> and
> wiggle that out, this gets you to the locking mech and you can manipulate
> it with a small screw driver or a set of tuned hammers
>
> >
>
> Safe travels,
>
> Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider
> 84FC35
> Ralph's RV Solutions, Duncan, Oklahoma
>
>

[martingregg598]

Mike, I had my lock malfunction and I was locked out. Lucky for me the
head window was still open. I have heard that you can remove the
fantastic fan from the roof and lower someone small in. As for the
door, on my coach, I disassembled the door: internal window frame off,
pull handle off, dead bolt off, flex the door panel and remove, drill
out rivets and remove the next layer to expose the lock. On my coach
the return spring for the lock was broke so I replaced it with a
carburetor type spring, better than the original. The hardest part was
putting the contact cement on the door and door panel and reassembling.
Best of luck,
Marty Gregg
95 BMC 37
Kennewick Wa.