Tire age vs wear

[Jon]

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Pete Masterson
wrote:
>
> I'd ask the tire dealer to put it in writing and agree cover any
> damages cost by a blown tire based on his opinion. (Was it the
owner
> of the tire store or hired help that didn't want to handle a heavy
> tire that day?)
>
> The only way to be sure a tire is 'safe' is to inspect it
thoroughly
> -- inside and out. If the tire isn't unmounted for an inspection,
you
> have only looked at half the possible area of deterioration.
>
> Most tire companies suggest that 7 years is the maximum safe life
> span for a tire. There is one tire made for RVs (by Michelin, I
> think) that claims to have a 10 year life span.
>
> Personally, considering the odds, I wouldn't want to gamble on 10
> year old tires -- but that's just me.
>
> Pete Masterson
> '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
> El Sobrante CA
> aeonix1@...
>
>
>
> On Sep 30, 2007, at 5:29 PM, bubblerboy64 wrote:
>
> > Leroy, When you say "inside" you are referring to the part of the
> > tire in which the tube would be in contact (if you in fact had
tubed
> > tires)? If you stripped the tires off the wheels and the insides
> > looked good would you use them or is that a stupid question? The
> > reason I ask is that I was ready to replace my ten year old tires
and
> > the tire dealership told me I didn't need to replace them because
> > they showed absolutely no signs of weather deterioration.(He
didn't
> > look inside obviously). Now I am questioning his judgment. Hard to
> > spring for tires when the TIRE DEALER says they are not needed.
Old
> > rubber is old rubber is old rubber is what I am reading to be the
> > prevailing wisdom? I don't want to wast money but I feel this is
> > pretty important. I guess what I am asking is if anyone supports
the
> > opinion of this particular tire dealer speak up. I assumed the
> > fellow to be just exceptionally honest. Maybe he is just wrong?
> > John Heckman
> > central Pa
> > 1973 FC
> >
> >
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
Well I will give my two cents worth on this subject. When I got my
motor home the rear tires were almost 10 years old and looked like
they were new. But I followed everyone advice and replaced those
with brand new TOYO tires cost around 1200 dollars. After the tires
were replaced I took my old tires home and checked them out and I saw
no sign of wear on the inside or outside. Mine were not rotten but I
have heard that the steel ribs inside the rubber tend to deteriorate
and that is where the problems lies on. Its to bad that one can't
have these expensive tires tested somehow to see what they really are
like at 7 years or 8 or god forbid 10 years.


So in my final conclusion is to go with flow and do your own
researching on this subject. New tires are expensive and most of the
time our machines are sitting ideal as our poor expensive tires just
rot away!!!!!

Oh yes my old tires are somewhere on the road taking care of an old
dump truck and probably doing just fine. Oh well I can ride with
piece of mine with my now two year old tires.

Jipjob
Rebel Bird

[bubblerboy64]

OK Guys, I am going to go for new tires. It was my intention to do
so in the beginning and I got talked out of it by the tire dealer (of
all people)? And no it was not just one of the boys. I tend to not
argue with experts in their fields but lets face it, it's my
responsibility and my back side as well. I am taking the bus to a
local trucking center Friday for an oil change and filters. I'll get
the skinny on new tires. I am going to have to do some wheel changes
as well. I have tube tires in the back and tubeless up front. I
guess now is the time to go for Alcoa's and get every all the same.
Gonna hurt the ole pocket but lets face it, it has to be done.
Thanks again for all the help and "priceless" information. Now I
have to figure out all the issues with the studs, hubs, wheels etc.
Anyone have info on what I will need?

John Heckman
central Pa
1973 FC







>
> Curt, I put the old set from my bus on my 10 wheeler dumptruck (Old
> as 9 years-). There was little wear on them and I am hoping to get
8
> months ( same as a set of recaps). If you want to rotate tires off
> your bus call me I'll buy them.
>
> A good program is to rotate a new set on the front of the bus every
2
> years. that way you will always steer new tires and will be running
> on tires less than 6 years old. Your budget is one tire per the
year
> (@$400.tire =$35.00 per month). ( @$300. for 11r22.5's, my
dumptruck
> tire budget is $332.month.)
>
>
> GregoryO'Connor
> 94ptRomolandCa
>
>
>
> -- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Curt Sprenger"
> wrote:
> >
> > Well said guys! None of us should push our luck with tires on the
> beasts we
> > drive. Our local tire store said to come back at 4 years and they
> will give
> > a good trade allowance for our current tires. They can sell them
to
> an OTR
> > driver who will wear them out in the next year of two.
> >
>

[marvinskaggs@...>]

I have 12R's on the steer, 11R's on drive and tag. Would it be possible to run
the 12's on the tag with 11's on the drive and put new 12's on the
steer?thanls,marvinMarvin SkaggsBuffalo, Ky. 427161984 PT40--- On Mon 10/01,
bubblerboy64 < jehdds@... > wrote:From: bubblerboy64 [mailto:
jehdds@...]To: WanderlodgeForum@...: Mon, 01 Oct 2007
11:59:47 -0000Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Tire age vs wear



OK Guys, I am going to go for new tires. It was my intention to do so in the
beginning and I got talked out of it by the tire dealer (of all people)? And no
it was not just one of the boys. I tend to not argue with experts in their
fields but lets face it, it's my responsibility and my back side as well. I am
taking the bus to a local trucking center Friday for an oil change and filters.
I'll get the skinny on new tires. I am going to have to do some wheel changes as
well. I have tube tires in the back and tubeless up front. I guess now is the
time to go for Alcoa's and get every all the same. Gonna hurt the ole pocket but
lets face it, it has to be done. Thanks again for all the help and "priceless"
information. Now I have to figure out all the issues with the studs, hubs,
wheels etc. Anyone have info on what I will need? John Heckmancentral Pa1973 FC
>> Curt, I put the old set from my bus on my 10 wheeler dumptruck (Old
> as 9 years-). There was little wear on them
and I am hoping to get 8 > months ( same as a set of recaps). If you want to
rotate tires off > your bus call me I'll buy them. > > A good program
is to rotate a new set on the front of the bus every 2 > years. that way you
will always steer new tires and will be running > on tires less than 6 years
old. Your budget is one tire per the year > (@$400.tire =$35.00 per month). (
@$300. for 11r22.5's, my dumptruck > tire budget is $332.month.)> >
> GregoryO'Connor> 94ptRomolandCa> > > > -- In
WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Curt Sprenger" >
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[bubblerboy64]

I am looking at tires: Yokahoma RY617 and Mich. XZ1 which are steer
tires and I am planning on using them as all position. I am getting
prices in the area of $375 to $400 out the door a tire. This sound
about right? I have some wheel issues to sort out but I am going to
move forward on this.

John Heckman
central Pa
1973 FC



>
> I have 12R's on the steer, 11R's on drive and tag. Would it be
possible to run the 12's on the tag with 11's on the drive and put
new 12's on the steer?thanls,marvinMarvin SkaggsBuffalo, Ky.
427161984 PT40--- On Mon 10/01, bubblerboy64 < jehdds@... >
wrote:From: bubblerboy64 [mailto: jehdds@...]To:
WanderlodgeForum@...: Mon, 01 Oct 2007 11:59:47 -0000Subject:
[WanderlodgeForum] Re: Tire age vs wear
>
>
>
> OK Guys, I am going to go for new tires. It was my intention to do
so in the beginning and I got talked out of it by the tire dealer (of
all people)? And no it was not just one of the boys. I tend to not
argue with experts in their fields but lets face it, it's my
responsibility and my back side as well. I am taking the bus to a
local trucking center Friday for an oil change and filters. I'll get
the skinny on new tires. I am going to have to do some wheel changes
as well. I have tube tires in the back and tubeless up front. I guess
now is the time to go for Alcoa's and get every all the same. Gonna
hurt the ole pocket but lets face it, it has to be done. Thanks again
for all the help and "priceless" information. Now I have to figure
out all the issues with the studs, hubs, wheels etc. Anyone have info
on what I will need? John Heckmancentral Pa1973 FC >> Curt, I
put the old set from my bus on my 10 wheeler dumptruck (Old > as 9
years-). There was little wear on them
> and I am hoping to get 8 > months ( same as a set of recaps). If
you want to rotate tires off > your bus call me I'll buy them.
> > A good program is to rotate a new set on the front of the
bus every 2 > years. that way you will always steer new tires and
will be running > on tires less than 6 years old. Your budget is
one tire per the year > (@$400.tire =$35.00 per month). ( @$300.
for 11r22.5's, my dumptruck > tire budget is $332.month.)> >
> GregoryO'Connor> 94ptRomolandCa> > > > -- In
WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Curt Sprenger" >
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[Leroy Eckert]

I paid $375.00 each for my Sumitomo ST 727 12Rx22.5. I haven't seen anything for
less that I would buy.
Leroy Eckert
1990 WB-40"Smoke N Mirrors"
Niceville, Fl
----- Original Message -----
From: bubblerboy64
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Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 8:53 AM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Tire age vs wear


I am looking at tires: Yokahoma RY617 and Mich. XZ1 which are steer
tires and I am planning on using them as all position. I am getting
prices in the area of $375 to $400 out the door a tire. This sound
about right? I have some wheel issues to sort out but I am going to
move forward on this.

John Heckman
central Pa
1973 FC

>
> I have 12R's on the steer, 11R's on drive and tag. Would it be
possible to run the 12's on the tag with 11's on the drive and put
new 12's on the steer?thanls,marvinMarvin SkaggsBuffalo, Ky.
427161984 PT40--- On Mon 10/01, bubblerboy64 < jehdds@... >
wrote:From: bubblerboy64 [mailto: jehdds@...]To:
WanderlodgeForum@...: Mon, 01 Oct 2007 11:59:47 -0000Subject:
[WanderlodgeForum] Re: Tire age vs wear
>
>
>
> OK Guys, I am going to go for new tires. It was my intention to do
so in the beginning and I got talked out of it by the tire dealer (of
all people)? And no it was not just one of the boys. I tend to not
argue with experts in their fields but lets face it, it's my
responsibility and my back side as well. I am taking the bus to a
local trucking center Friday for an oil change and filters. I'll get
the skinny on new tires. I am going to have to do some wheel changes
as well. I have tube tires in the back and tubeless up front. I guess
now is the time to go for Alcoa's and get every all the same. Gonna
hurt the ole pocket but lets face it, it has to be done. Thanks again
for all the help and "priceless" information. Now I have to figure
out all the issues with the studs, hubs, wheels etc. Anyone have info
on what I will need? John Heckmancentral Pa1973 FC >> Curt, I
put the old set from my bus on my 10 wheeler dumptruck (Old > as 9
years-). There was little wear on them
> and I am hoping to get 8 > months ( same as a set of recaps). If
you want to rotate tires off > your bus call me I'll buy them.
> > A good program is to rotate a new set on the front of the
bus every 2 > years. that way you will always steer new tires and
will be running > on tires less than 6 years old. Your budget is
one tire per the year > (@$400.tire =$35.00 per month). ( @$300.
for 11r22.5's, my dumptruck > tire budget is $332.month.)> >
> GregoryO'Connor> 94ptRomolandCa> > > > -- In
WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Curt Sprenger" >
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[ronmarabito2002]

I use the Yokohama RYO23. They are probably about the same price, but
I have had good service with them. Have used them on two coaches.

R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "bubblerboy64"
wrote:
>
> I am looking at tires: Yokahoma RY617 and Mich. XZ1 which are steer
> tires and I am planning on using them as all position. I am getting
> prices in the area of $375 to $400 out the door a tire. This sound
> about right? I have some wheel issues to sort out but I am going to
> move forward on this.
>
> John Heckman
> central Pa
> 1973 FC
>
>
>
> >
> > I have 12R's on the steer, 11R's on drive and tag. Would it be
> possible to run the 12's on the tag with 11's on the drive and put
> new 12's on the steer?thanls,marvinMarvin SkaggsBuffalo, Ky.
> 427161984 PT40--- On Mon 10/01, bubblerboy64 < jehdds@ >
> wrote:From: bubblerboy64 [mailto: jehdds@]To:
> WanderlodgeForum@: Mon, 01 Oct 2007 11:59:47 -0000Subject:
> [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Tire age vs wear
> >
> >
> >
> > OK Guys, I am going to go for new tires. It was my intention to do
> so in the beginning and I got talked out of it by the tire dealer (of
> all people)? And no it was not just one of the boys. I tend to not
> argue with experts in their fields but lets face it, it's my
> responsibility and my back side as well. I am taking the bus to a
> local trucking center Friday for an oil change and filters. I'll get
> the skinny on new tires. I am going to have to do some wheel changes
> as well. I have tube tires in the back and tubeless up front. I guess
> now is the time to go for Alcoa's and get every all the same. Gonna
> hurt the ole pocket but lets face it, it has to be done. Thanks again
> for all the help and "priceless" information. Now I have to figure
> out all the issues with the studs, hubs, wheels etc. Anyone have info
> on what I will need? John Heckmancentral Pa1973 FC >> Curt, I
> put the old set from my bus on my 10 wheeler dumptruck (Old > as 9
> years-). There was little wear on them
> > and I am hoping to get 8 > months ( same as a set of recaps). If
> you want to rotate tires off > your bus call me I'll buy them.
> > > A good program is to rotate a new set on the front of the
> bus every 2 > years. that way you will always steer new tires and
> will be running > on tires less than 6 years old. Your budget is
> one tire per the year > (@$400.tire =$35.00 per month). ( @$300.
> for 11r22.5's, my dumptruck > tire budget is $332.month.)> >
> > GregoryO'Connor> 94ptRomolandCa> > > > -- In
> WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Curt Sprenger" >
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