What To Do: To Sell Me Your Bird.

[Gregory OConnor]

JR, here is a link to Dicks bus.
http://www.pbase.com/gregoryoc/hayden_86_pt38
Dick, How much$ for your 87 8V92 pt???

I dont know what to do to Sell but I'll tell you what I do.

1-I use my full name in the advert to add validity to ad. Not that
anyone who knows me would buy from me

2-I answer emails of multiple questions by return email, answering
only one and include my cell phone number. Some folks just like to
window shop, serious buyers will drop a dime. When buying, I email
my cell# and ask the seller to call me about some questions.

3-when someone tries to negotiate a lower price on the phone, I
respond an amount I would not consider.( IE "some one offered me
50,000 and I turned it down") I do the same when buying -I ask the
seller if there have been any offers and how much they refused. ( I
often change the subject after asking this to give the seller a
chance to think it over, I re-ask the question or call back a day
later. the answer they give is just below acceptable sell
price.) . this sets thresholds that save time if the price is out
of mutual range.

4-only use three to four pics. For some reason Coaches usuly look
better in pics?? so they show little truth. many pics and a big
description looks like a snow job or a seller/owner who will take it
personal if a onsite reasonable offer is made. When some one wants
more pics, I advise them to view it in person or send some one to
look at it.

5. I never consider Canadian Economist (any Canadian actually),
Investment brokers, the price of fuel or race/sex/party in office
when making a decision on pricing. I listen to the buyer with the
money.

GregoryO'Connor
94ptRomolandCa




--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Richard Hayden"
wrote:
>
> JR,
>
> Are you talking about my '87 PT that Gregory OcConner showed
pictures a few weeks ago? It has a blue and silver exterior and a
white interior.
>
> Dick Hayden - '87 PT 38 - Lake Stevens, WA
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: J R Saunders
> To:
WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com com>
> Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 10:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] What To Do: To Sell Me Your Bird.
>
>
> Leroy,
> No it was a 1987 PT. Had a white interior. Look good from the
pics.
>
> J R & Deane
> Kent, WA (West Hill)
>
>
> Leroy Eckert wrote:
>
> Just curious. Was the coach in Maine a 91 WB?
>
> Leroy Eckert
> 1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors
> Dahlonega, GA
> Royale Conversion
>

[Stephen Birtles]

We extend the same courtesy to citizens of california who dig holes

Stephen 77fc35
dupreeproducts.com

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Gregory OConnor"
wrote:
>
> JR, here is a link to Dicks bus.
> http://www.pbase.com/gregoryoc/hayden_86_pt38
> Dick, How much$ for your 87 8V92 pt???
>
> I dont know what to do to Sell but I'll tell you what I do.
>
> 1-I use my full name in the advert to add validity to ad. Not that
> anyone who knows me would buy from me
>
> 2-I answer emails of multiple questions by return email, answering
> only one and include my cell phone number. Some folks just like to
> window shop, serious buyers will drop a dime. When buying, I email
> my cell# and ask the seller to call me about some questions.
>
> 3-when someone tries to negotiate a lower price on the phone, I
> respond an amount I would not consider.( IE "some one offered me
> 50,000 and I turned it down") I do the same when buying -I ask the
> seller if there have been any offers and how much they refused. ( I
> often change the subject after asking this to give the seller a
> chance to think it over, I re-ask the question or call back a day
> later. the answer they give is just below acceptable sell
> price.) . this sets thresholds that save time if the price is out
> of mutual range.
>
> 4-only use three to four pics. For some reason Coaches usuly look
> better in pics?? so they show little truth. many pics and a big
> description looks like a snow job or a seller/owner who will take it
> personal if a onsite reasonable offer is made. When some one wants
> more pics, I advise them to view it in person or send some one to
> look at it.
>
> 5. I never consider Canadian Economist (any Canadian actually),
> Investment brokers, the price of fuel or race/sex/party in office
> when making a decision on pricing. I listen to the buyer with the
> money.
>
> GregoryO'Connor
> 94ptRomolandCa
>
>
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Richard Hayden"
> wrote:
> >
> > JR,
> >
> > Are you talking about my '87 PT that Gregory OcConner showed
> pictures a few weeks ago? It has a blue and silver exterior and a
> white interior.
> >
> > Dick Hayden - '87 PT 38 - Lake Stevens, WA
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: J R Saunders
> > To:
> WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > com>
> > Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 10:26 PM
> > Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] What To Do: To Sell Me Your Bird.
> >
> >
> > Leroy,
> > No it was a 1987 PT. Had a white interior. Look good from the
> pics.
> >
> > J R & Deane
> > Kent, WA (West Hill)
> >
> >
> > Leroy Eckert wrote:
> >
> > Just curious. Was the coach in Maine a 91 WB?
> >
> > Leroy Eckert
> > 1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors
> > Dahlonega, GA
> > Royale Conversion
> >
>

[susanmarycamilleri]

Well Gregory, you have written off your credibility in my view. Let
me guess, you used to be with the diplomatic corps.

Peter Haggins
78 FC 35'
"Prairie Dog"
Vancouver Is.
B.C.

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Stephen Birtles"
wrote:
>
> We extend the same courtesy to citizens of california who dig holes
>
> Stephen 77fc35
> dupreeproducts.com
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Gregory OConnor"
> wrote:
> >
> > JR, here is a link to Dicks bus.
> > http://www.pbase.com/gregoryoc/hayden_86_pt38
> > Dick, How much$ for your 87 8V92 pt???
> >
> > I dont know what to do to Sell but I'll tell you what I do.
> >
> > 1-I use my full name in the advert to add validity to ad. Not
that
> > anyone who knows me would buy from me
> >
> > 2-I answer emails of multiple questions by return email,
answering
> > only one and include my cell phone number. Some folks just like
to
> > window shop, serious buyers will drop a dime. When buying, I
email
> > my cell# and ask the seller to call me about some questions.
> >
> > 3-when someone tries to negotiate a lower price on the phone, I
> > respond an amount I would not consider.( IE "some one offered me
> > 50,000 and I turned it down") I do the same when buying -I ask
the
> > seller if there have been any offers and how much they refused. (
I
> > often change the subject after asking this to give the seller a
> > chance to think it over, I re-ask the question or call back a
day
> > later. the answer they give is just below acceptable sell
> > price.) . this sets thresholds that save time if the price is
out
> > of mutual range.
> >
> > 4-only use three to four pics. For some reason Coaches usuly
look
> > better in pics?? so they show little truth. many pics and a big
> > description looks like a snow job or a seller/owner who will take
it
> > personal if a onsite reasonable offer is made. When some one
wants
> > more pics, I advise them to view it in person or send some one to
> > look at it.
> >
> > 5. I never consider Canadian Economist (any Canadian actually),
> > Investment brokers, the price of fuel or race/sex/party in office
> > when making a decision on pricing. I listen to the buyer with the
> > money.
> >
> > GregoryO'Connor
> > 94ptRomolandCa
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Richard Hayden"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > JR,
> > >
> > > Are you talking about my '87 PT that Gregory OcConner showed
> > pictures a few weeks ago? It has a blue and silver exterior and
a
> > white interior.
> > >
> > > Dick Hayden - '87 PT 38 - Lake Stevens, WA
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: J R Saunders
> > > To:
> >
WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > > com>
> > > Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 10:26 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] What To Do: To Sell Me Your
Bird.
> > >
> > >
> > > Leroy,
> > > No it was a 1987 PT. Had a white interior. Look good from the
> > pics.
> > >
> > > J R & Deane
> > > Kent, WA (West Hill)
> > >
> > >
> > > Leroy Eckert wrote:
> > >
> > > Just curious. Was the coach in Maine a 91 WB?
> > >
> > > Leroy Eckert
> > > 1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors
> > > Dahlonega, GA
> > > Royale Conversion
> > >
> >
>

[Gregory OConnor]

No , legislator.
GregoryO'Connor
94ptRomolandCa

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "susanmarycamilleri"
wrote:
>
> Well Gregory, you have written off your credibility in my view.
Let
> me guess, you used to be with the diplomatic corps.
>
> Peter Haggins
> 78 FC 35'
> "Prairie Dog"
> Vancouver Is.
> B.C.
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Stephen Birtles"
> wrote:
> >
> > We extend the same courtesy to citizens of california who dig
holes
> >
> > Stephen 77fc35
> > dupreeproducts.com
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Gregory OConnor"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > JR, here is a link to Dicks bus.
> > > http://www.pbase.com/gregoryoc/hayden_86_pt38
> > > Dick, How much$ for your 87 8V92 pt???
> > >
> > > I dont know what to do to Sell but I'll tell you what I do.
> > >
> > > 1-I use my full name in the advert to add validity to ad. Not
> that
> > > anyone who knows me would buy from me
> > >
> > > 2-I answer emails of multiple questions by return email,
> answering
> > > only one and include my cell phone number. Some folks just
like
> to
> > > window shop, serious buyers will drop a dime. When buying, I
> email
> > > my cell# and ask the seller to call me about some questions.
> > >
> > > 3-when someone tries to negotiate a lower price on the phone,
I
> > > respond an amount I would not consider.( IE "some one offered
me
> > > 50,000 and I turned it down") I do the same when buying -I ask
> the
> > > seller if there have been any offers and how much they
refused. (
> I
> > > often change the subject after asking this to give the seller
a
> > > chance to think it over, I re-ask the question or call back a
> day
> > > later. the answer they give is just below acceptable sell
> > > price.) . this sets thresholds that save time if the price
is
> out
> > > of mutual range.
> > >
> > > 4-only use three to four pics. For some reason Coaches usuly
> look
> > > better in pics?? so they show little truth. many pics and a
big
> > > description looks like a snow job or a seller/owner who will
take
> it
> > > personal if a onsite reasonable offer is made. When some one
> wants
> > > more pics, I advise them to view it in person or send some one
to
> > > look at it.
> > >
> > > 5. I never consider Canadian Economist (any Canadian
actually),
> > > Investment brokers, the price of fuel or race/sex/party in
office
> > > when making a decision on pricing. I listen to the buyer with
the
> > > money.
> > >
> > > GregoryO'Connor
> > > 94ptRomolandCa
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Richard Hayden"
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > JR,
> > > >
> > > > Are you talking about my '87 PT that Gregory OcConner showed
> > > pictures a few weeks ago? It has a blue and silver exterior
and
> a
> > > white interior.
> > > >
> > > > Dick Hayden - '87 PT 38 - Lake Stevens, WA
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: J R Saunders
> > > > To:
> > >
>
WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > > > com>
> > > > Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 10:26 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] What To Do: To Sell Me
Your
> Bird.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Leroy,
> > > > No it was a 1987 PT. Had a white interior. Look good from
the
> > > pics.
> > > >
> > > > J R & Deane
> > > > Kent, WA (West Hill)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Leroy Eckert wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Just curious. Was the coach in Maine a 91 WB?
> > > >
> > > > Leroy Eckert
> > > > 1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors
> > > > Dahlonega, GA
> > > > Royale Conversion
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[susanmarycamilleri]

Really? That fits.
You come across as an arrogant seal. We are bilingual country Canada.

Pete Haggins

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Gregory OConnor"
wrote:
>
> No , legislator.
> GregoryO'Connor
> 94ptRomolandCa
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "susanmarycamilleri"
> wrote:
> >
> > Well Gregory, you have written off your credibility in my view.
> Let
> > me guess, you used to be with the diplomatic corps.
> >
> > Peter Haggins
> > 78 FC 35'
> > "Prairie Dog"
> > Vancouver Is.
> > B.C.
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Stephen Birtles"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > We extend the same courtesy to citizens of california who dig
> holes
> > >
> > > Stephen 77fc35
> > > dupreeproducts.com
> > >
> > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Gregory OConnor"
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > JR, here is a link to Dicks bus.
> > > > http://www.pbase.com/gregoryoc/hayden_86_pt38
> > > > Dick, How much$ for your 87 8V92 pt???
> > > >
> > > > I dont know what to do to Sell but I'll tell you what I do.
> > > >
> > > > 1-I use my full name in the advert to add validity to ad. Not
> > that
> > > > anyone who knows me would buy from me
> > > >
> > > > 2-I answer emails of multiple questions by return email,
> > answering
> > > > only one and include my cell phone number. Some folks just
> like
> > to
> > > > window shop, serious buyers will drop a dime. When buying, I
> > email
> > > > my cell# and ask the seller to call me about some questions.
> > > >
> > > > 3-when someone tries to negotiate a lower price on the phone,
> I
> > > > respond an amount I would not consider.( IE "some one offered
> me
> > > > 50,000 and I turned it down") I do the same when buying -I
ask
> > the
> > > > seller if there have been any offers and how much they
> refused. (
> > I
> > > > often change the subject after asking this to give the seller
> a
> > > > chance to think it over, I re-ask the question or call back
a
> > day
> > > > later. the answer they give is just below acceptable sell
> > > > price.) . this sets thresholds that save time if the price
> is
> > out
> > > > of mutual range.
> > > >
> > > > 4-only use three to four pics. For some reason Coaches usuly
> > look
> > > > better in pics?? so they show little truth. many pics and a
> big
> > > > description looks like a snow job or a seller/owner who will
> take
> > it
> > > > personal if a onsite reasonable offer is made. When some one
> > wants
> > > > more pics, I advise them to view it in person or send some
one
> to
> > > > look at it.
> > > >
> > > > 5. I never consider Canadian Economist (any Canadian
> actually),
> > > > Investment brokers, the price of fuel or race/sex/party in
> office
> > > > when making a decision on pricing. I listen to the buyer with
> the
> > > > money.
> > > >
> > > > GregoryO'Connor
> > > > 94ptRomolandCa
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Richard Hayden"
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > JR,
> > > > >
> > > > > Are you talking about my '87 PT that Gregory OcConner
showed
> > > > pictures a few weeks ago? It has a blue and silver exterior
> and
> > a
> > > > white interior.
> > > > >
> > > > > Dick Hayden - '87 PT 38 - Lake Stevens, WA
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: J R Saunders
> > > > > To:
> > > >
> >
>
WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > > > > com>
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 10:26 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] What To Do: To Sell Me
> Your
> > Bird.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Leroy,
> > > > > No it was a 1987 PT. Had a white interior. Look good from
> the
> > > > pics.
> > > > >
> > > > > J R & Deane
> > > > > Kent, WA (West Hill)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Leroy Eckert wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Just curious. Was the coach in Maine a 91 WB?
> > > > >
> > > > > Leroy Eckert
> > > > > 1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors
> > > > > Dahlonega, GA
> > > > > Royale Conversion
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[J R Saunders]

Leroy,



You said

>However, you failed to tell us what you are looking for and
whether you are looking pristine or a beater?<



Good question...The wife & I have been talking about that. After
looking over all the model years on Vintage Birds website,

and checking current sales pricing. Keeping in mind the uncertainty in
our economy and price of fuel. We have decided to hold off

on our purchase, till August of this year. This will give us some time
to
see if we are in a bad recession or a total blow out depression.

LOL. And we can do a lot more studying about Birds.



When it's time to buy, we will be looking for 1980 to 1985 35FC or a
1982 40PT. We like the Side Bath, Double Bed, Couch/Sleeper

and the two chairs w/cabinet. Not looking for any beaters, pristine,
not sure, one man's pristine could be another man's beater, maybe

somewhere in between. I am looking for a unit that is mechanically
sound and all systems in good working order. Something I think all

buyers would want. What ever we buy, it will be our last motor home
purchase, so it will be for long term use. Early retirement for the

wife, hopefully sometime next year.



To all who responded to our first post, Thank you one and all. You have
a very good forum here. Deane & I will keep reading and may ask

a few questions as they come up.



Thanks again for your time.



Best Regards,



J R & Deane Saunders

(84 SOB)

Kent, WA. (West Hill)





Leroy Eckert wrote:

Unless it has been modified it does not have tanks of that
advertised size.

Good post IMO. However, you failed to tell us what you are looking for
and whether you are looking pristine or a beater?

If you are looking long term, forget the stick and plastic RV's.



Leroy Eckert

1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors

Dahlonega, GA

Royale Conversion

[mbulriss]

JR,

Thanks for the kind words on the forum. A word of caution on your
listed choices for Birds: the 82 PT40 was the first year of the PT
series. Since it was the first year, few were made (thus hard to
find), a "one-each" model in that it has the DD 6V92 "red" engine (300
hp) rather than the DD 6V92TA (330hp) that following models had. You
might want to expand your range to look at 83-85 PT models also since
they are going to be in the same price range, and incorporate the
common later engine (and probably several other things they learned on
the 'starter model'.

FWIW. Good luck on your search and feel free to ask lots of questions.

Mike Bulriss
1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
San Antonio, TX where it was a comfortable 98 yesterday