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06-15-2006, 16:51
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Winterizing thread
hahahah I was waiting and wasn't disappointed. thank you.
On 15/06/06, orbitalsolutions > > Being one who's practice of winterizing is to head south, at the > slightest possibility of any freezing temps at my current location; > and not stoping to rest until there is no longer any possibile > threat, I thought I would have nothing of value to add to this > thread. > > However, I will address the question regarding the thermal expansion > of matter. > > Bob, you stated, "I believe that ice doesn't require any more space > be it 24 degrees F. or minus 24 degrees F." > > You are correct. The frozen matter in question would be equal in > volume at either of the stated temps. > > James > 78FC33SB "Old School" > Tunica, MS. > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > "one_dusty_hoot" > > > > > > Maybe I have just been lucky? Maybe it has not been cold > > enough here? Maybe I took a little more care? > > > > I have opened the front door of a house and the entire > > living room ceiling had fallen to the floor, overhead > > plumbing and the owner turn off the heat. > > > > I have had to remove the siding from the back of a house > > to repair all the copper pipes damaged from freezing. > > > > Some winters, not all, it does get very cold here, enough > > so that an open foundation vent can burst copper in a > > heated house. And, I believe that ice doesn't require > > any more space be it 24 degees F. or minus 24 degrees F. > > > > I would lke a response please from someone who owned a > > Bluebird Motor Home, not SOB, not PO "said", YOU! and > > only YOU, who feel as though you did the job according > > to the manual, taking care to do everything right, had > > a broken pipe in their coach due to freezing. > > > > If you have had this happen I do hope you will not > > withold this information because of any guilt or > > embarasement for it has been said, you followed the > > instructions, and, it did not work. > > > > Thanks, Bob Janes, Greenville, SC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > "birdshill123" > > > > > > > > Although I am a new BB owner I feel I am more than qualified to > > jump > > > into this thread because: A: I have been RV'ng for 35 years B: I > > live > > > where it can and has reached minus 40 in the winter. C. We > > winterize > > > our summer cottage every fall. > > > > > > My experience has been that compressed air by itself is not > > enough. > > > Water will be trapped at the elbows. Especially with copper > pipes. > > > Assuming you have some sort of bypass the best method is to > first > > > blow out all the lines. Then using a hand pump, pump the pink > > stuff > > > BACK from the faucets into the lines. For instance you can open > > the > > > bathroom faucet and pump from the kitchen faucet back to the > > > bathroom. When pink stuff comes out of the bathroom faucet pump > > from > > > the bathroom faucet to the shower. finally you need to make sure > > that > > > pink stuff is in the lines from the bathroom to under the bed. > You > > > can manually open the check valve in the fresh water intake and > > have > > > some one pump from the bathroom till pink stuff comes out the > > water > > > intake. An alternate method is to disconnect the intake line at > > the > > > water pump and pump pink A/F to each faucet and toilet. Murphy's > > law > > > states that if a line is going to freeze it will be in the most > > > inaccessable place! > > > > > > Bruce 1988 FC 35 > > > > > > > > -- Rob, Sue & Merlin Robinson 94 WLWB [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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06-15-2006, 17:00
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James
we have the same solution as you for winterizing our couch, except I tie a snow shovel on the front of the bus and drive south until someone ask me what it is. Than I park Jerry 03 LXi --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "orbitalsolutions" > > Being one who's practice of winterizing is to head south, at the > slightest possibility of any freezing temps at my current location; > and not stoping to rest until there is no longer any possibile > threat, I thought I would have nothing of value to add to this > thread. > > However, I will address the question regarding the thermal expansion > of matter. > > Bob, you stated, "I believe that ice doesn't require any more space > be it 24 degrees F. or minus 24 degrees F." > > You are correct. The frozen matter in question would be equal in > volume at either of the stated temps. > > > James > 78FC33SB "Old School" > Tunica, MS. > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "one_dusty_hoot" > > > > > Maybe I have just been lucky? Maybe it has not been cold > > enough here? Maybe I took a little more care? > > > > I have opened the front door of a house and the entire > > living room ceiling had fallen to the floor, overhead > > plumbing and the owner turn off the heat. > > > > I have had to remove the siding from the back of a house > > to repair all the copper pipes damaged from freezing. > > > > Some winters, not all, it does get very cold here, enough > > so that an open foundation vent can burst copper in a > > heated house. And, I believe that ice doesn't require > > any more space be it 24 degees F. or minus 24 degrees F. > > > > I would lke a response please from someone who owned a > > Bluebird Motor Home, not SOB, not PO "said", YOU! and > > only YOU, who feel as though you did the job according > > to the manual, taking care to do everything right, had > > a broken pipe in their coach due to freezing. > > > > If you have had this happen I do hope you will not > > withold this information because of any guilt or > > embarasement for it has been said, you followed the > > instructions, and, it did not work. > > > > Thanks, Bob Janes, Greenville, SC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "birdshill123" > > > > > > > > Although I am a new BB owner I feel I am more than qualified to > > jump > > > into this thread because: A: I have been RV'ng for 35 years B: I > > live > > > where it can and has reached minus 40 in the winter. C. We > > winterize > > > our summer cottage every fall. > > > > > > My experience has been that compressed air by itself is not > > enough. > > > Water will be trapped at the elbows. Especially with copper > pipes. > > > Assuming you have some sort of bypass the best method is to > first > > > blow out all the lines. Then using a hand pump, pump the pink > > stuff > > > BACK from the faucets into the lines. For instance you can open > > the > > > bathroom faucet and pump from the kitchen faucet back to the > > > bathroom. When pink stuff comes out of the bathroom faucet pump > > from > > > the bathroom faucet to the shower. finally you need to make sure > > that > > > pink stuff is in the lines from the bathroom to under the bed. > You > > > can manually open the check valve in the fresh water intake and > > have > > > some one pump from the bathroom till pink stuff comes out the > > water > > > intake. An alternate method is to disconnect the intake line at > > the > > > water pump and pump pink A/F to each faucet and toilet. Murphy's > > law > > > states that if a line is going to freeze it will be in the most > > > inaccessable place! > > > > > > Bruce 1988 FC 35 > > > > > > |
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06-15-2006, 17:00
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You are most welcome, Sir ... ROFLMAO !!
James 78FC33SB "Old School" Tunica, MS. --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Rob Robinson" > > hahahah I was waiting and wasn't disappointed. thank you. > > On 15/06/06, orbitalsolutions > > > > Being one who's practice of winterizing is to head south, at the > > slightest possibility of any freezing temps at my current location; > > and not stoping to rest until there is no longer any possibile > > threat, I thought I would have nothing of value to add to this > > thread. > > > > However, I will address the question regarding the thermal expansion > > of matter. > > > > Bob, you stated, "I believe that ice doesn't require any more space > > be it 24 degrees F. or minus 24 degrees F." > > > > You are correct. The frozen matter in question would be equal in > > volume at either of the stated temps. > > > > James > > 78FC33SB "Old School" > > Tunica, MS. > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > > "one_dusty_hoot" > > > > > > > > > > Maybe I have just been lucky? Maybe it has not been cold > > > enough here? Maybe I took a little more care? > > > > > > I have opened the front door of a house and the entire > > > living room ceiling had fallen to the floor, overhead > > > plumbing and the owner turn off the heat. > > > > > > I have had to remove the siding from the back of a house > > > to repair all the copper pipes damaged from freezing. > > > > > > Some winters, not all, it does get very cold here, enough > > > so that an open foundation vent can burst copper in a > > > heated house. And, I believe that ice doesn't require > > > any more space be it 24 degees F. or minus 24 degrees F. > > > > > > I would lke a response please from someone who owned a > > > Bluebird Motor Home, not SOB, not PO "said", YOU! and > > > only YOU, who feel as though you did the job according > > > to the manual, taking care to do everything right, had > > > a broken pipe in their coach due to freezing. > > > > > > If you have had this happen I do hope you will not > > > withold this information because of any guilt or > > > embarasement for it has been said, you followed the > > > instructions, and, it did not work. > > > > > > Thanks, Bob Janes, Greenville, SC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > > "birdshill123" > > > > > > > > > > > Although I am a new BB owner I feel I am more than qualified to > > > jump > > > > into this thread because: A: I have been RV'ng for 35 years B: I > > > live > > > > where it can and has reached minus 40 in the winter. C. We > > > winterize > > > > our summer cottage every fall. > > > > > > > > My experience has been that compressed air by itself is not > > > enough. > > > > Water will be trapped at the elbows. Especially with copper > > pipes. > > > > Assuming you have some sort of bypass the best method is to > > first > > > > blow out all the lines. Then using a hand pump, pump the pink > > > stuff > > > > BACK from the faucets into the lines. For instance you can open > > > the > > > > bathroom faucet and pump from the kitchen faucet back to the > > > > bathroom. When pink stuff comes out of the bathroom faucet pump > > > from > > > > the bathroom faucet to the shower. finally you need to make sure > > > that > > > > pink stuff is in the lines from the bathroom to under the bed. > > You > > > > can manually open the check valve in the fresh water intake and > > > have > > > > some one pump from the bathroom till pink stuff comes out the > > > water > > > > intake. An alternate method is to disconnect the intake line at > > > the > > > > water pump and pump pink A/F to each faucet and toilet. Murphy's > > > law > > > > states that if a line is going to freeze it will be in the most > > > > inaccessable place! > > > > > > > > Bruce 1988 FC 35 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Rob, Sue & Merlin Robinson > 94 WLWB > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |
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06-15-2006, 17:09
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Thank you James. Anyone can enjoy a faux paux. It takes a true humourist to
enjoy his own. Rob 94 pt On 15/06/06, orbitalsolutions > > You are most welcome, Sir ... ROFLMAO !! > > > James > 78FC33SB "Old School" > Tunica, MS. > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > "Rob Robinson" > > > > > > hahahah I was waiting and wasn't disappointed. thank you. > > > > On 15/06/06, orbitalsolutions > > > > > > Being one who's practice of winterizing is to head south, at > the > > > slightest possibility of any freezing temps at my current > location; > > > and not stoping to rest until there is no longer any possibile > > > threat, I thought I would have nothing of value to add to this > > > thread. > > > > > > However, I will address the question regarding the thermal > expansion > > > of matter. > > > > > > Bob, you stated, "I believe that ice doesn't require any more > space > > > be it 24 degrees F. or minus 24 degrees F." > > > > > > You are correct. The frozen matter in question would be equal in > > > volume at either of the stated temps. > > > > > > James > > > 78FC33SB "Old School" > > > Tunica, MS. > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > > > > > "one_dusty_hoot" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe I have just been lucky? Maybe it has not been cold > > > > enough here? Maybe I took a little more care? > > > > > > > > I have opened the front door of a house and the entire > > > > living room ceiling had fallen to the floor, overhead > > > > plumbing and the owner turn off the heat. > > > > > > > > I have had to remove the siding from the back of a house > > > > to repair all the copper pipes damaged from freezing. > > > > > > > > Some winters, not all, it does get very cold here, enough > > > > so that an open foundation vent can burst copper in a > > > > heated house. And, I believe that ice doesn't require > > > > any more space be it 24 degees F. or minus 24 degrees F. > > > > > > > > I would lke a response please from someone who owned a > > > > Bluebird Motor Home, not SOB, not PO "said", YOU! and > > > > only YOU, who feel as though you did the job according > > > > to the manual, taking care to do everything right, had > > > > a broken pipe in their coach due to freezing. > > > > > > > > If you have had this happen I do hope you will not > > > > withold this information because of any guilt or > > > > embarasement for it has been said, you followed the > > > > instructions, and, it did not work. > > > > > > > > Thanks, Bob Janes, Greenville, SC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > > > > > "birdshill123" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Although I am a new BB owner I feel I am more than qualified > to > > > > jump > > > > > into this thread because: A: I have been RV'ng for 35 years > B: I > > > > live > > > > > where it can and has reached minus 40 in the winter. C. We > > > > winterize > > > > > our summer cottage every fall. > > > > > > > > > > My experience has been that compressed air by itself is not > > > > enough. > > > > > Water will be trapped at the elbows. Especially with copper > > > pipes. > > > > > Assuming you have some sort of bypass the best method is to > > > first > > > > > blow out all the lines. Then using a hand pump, pump the pink > > > > stuff > > > > > BACK from the faucets into the lines. For instance you can > open > > > > the > > > > > bathroom faucet and pump from the kitchen faucet back to the > > > > > bathroom. When pink stuff comes out of the bathroom faucet > pump > > > > from > > > > > the bathroom faucet to the shower. finally you need to make > sure > > > > that > > > > > pink stuff is in the lines from the bathroom to under the > bed. > > > You > > > > > can manually open the check valve in the fresh water intake > and > > > > have > > > > > some one pump from the bathroom till pink stuff comes out the > > > > water > > > > > intake. An alternate method is to disconnect the intake line > at > > > > the > > > > > water pump and pump pink A/F to each faucet and toilet. > Murphy's > > > > law > > > > > states that if a line is going to freeze it will be in the > most > > > > > inaccessable place! > > > > > > > > > > Bruce 1988 FC 35 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Rob, Sue & Merlin Robinson > > 94 WLWB > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > -- Rob, Sue & Merlin Robinson 94 WLWB [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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06-16-2006, 00:13
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I thought a Faux Paux was the relieved party in a child support issue??
Greg 94pt Faux digger --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Rob Robinson" > > Thank you James. Anyone can enjoy a faux paux. It takes a true humourist to > enjoy his own. > > Rob 94 pt > > |
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