Leather cleaner

[Gardner Yeaw]

What do most people use to clean the leather on the Flexsteel chairs?
The leather on mine needs to be cleaned, but I don't want to use
something that will damage it, or leave an undesirable odor. One of
the suggestions I have had is to use a moisturizing soap like Dove,
and wipe dry afterward. Any suggestions?

Gardner
78FC33

[Terry - Bird]

Hi Gardner,

I sell & personally use this product (link below) for all leather
products. It's 303 Protectant. It's great for dashboards, seats,
plastics, etc. Also we use it on vinyls. Many RV stores carry it or
you can order it on line. Congrats again on your new Bird. I know you
will enjoy it immensely.

http://www.303products.com/main.php

Terry Neal
Bozeman, MT
82PT40
74FC34



Gardner Yeaw wrote:

> What do most people use to clean the leather on the Flexsteel chairs?
> The leather on mine needs to be cleaned, but I don't want to use
> something that will damage it, or leave an undesirable odor. One of
> the suggestions I have had is to use a moisturizing soap like Dove,
> and wipe dry afterward. Any suggestions?
>
> Gardner
> 78FC33
>
>



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[Gardner Yeaw]

Terry,
Thanks, I will look into it. I see you are a 2 bird man. I am having a
lot of fun with my new Bird. My wife, who only a couple of months ago said'
over my dead body', has taken as keen interest in it. She is already working
out where to put things like cloths, laundry, trash, etc. I am still very
wet behind the ears, but my early education in auto mechanics and later in
electronics gives me the confidence that I can figure the systems out and
keep it running for the most part. Also, the previous owner didn't skimp on
the repairs, so I believe I have a pretty mechanically solid bus (for a 28
year old bus that is).

I have an old friend that lives in Bozeman, he is quite a character. His
name is Raleigh Heydon, ever run into him?

Gardner
78FC33

-----Original Message-----
From: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Terry - Bird
Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 9:24 PM
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Leather cleaner

Hi Gardner,

I sell & personally use this product (link below) for all leather
products. It's 303 Protectant. It's great for dashboards, seats,
plastics, etc. Also we use it on vinyls. Many RV stores carry it or
you can order it on line. Congrats again on your new Bird. I know you
will enjoy it immensely.

http://www.303products.com/main.php <http://www.303products.com/main.php>

Terry Neal
Bozeman, MT
82PT40
74FC34

Gardner Yeaw wrote:

> What do most people use to clean the leather on the Flexsteel chairs?
> The leather on mine needs to be cleaned, but I don't want to use
> something that will damage it, or leave an undesirable odor. One of
> the suggestions I have had is to use a moisturizing soap like Dove,
> and wipe dry afterward. Any suggestions?
>
> Gardner
> 78FC33
>
>

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[Terry Neal]

Evening Gardner,

No, I haven't met your friend Raleigh but would like to. Sounds like a
great person. You will find so many helpful people in this Bluebird
bunch all over the US & Canada. My wife was not too enthralled with the
2nd Bird purchase (PT40) but after actually spending a couple of hours
in it, she too was figuring out what needed to be changed (she watches
HGTV a LOT) & what to put where. Sounds like you found a good one so
learn, use and enjoy it. We are in the process of a complete remodel &
repaint on the PT40 so I have been working on info to post in an album
one of these days or nights.

Terry Neal
Bozeman, MT
82PT40
74FC34



Gardner Yeaw wrote:

> Terry,
> Thanks, I will look into it. I see you are a 2 bird man. I am having a
> lot of fun with my new Bird. My wife, who only a couple of months ago
> said'
> over my dead body', has taken as keen interest in it. She is already
> working
> out where to put things like cloths, laundry, trash, etc. I am still very
> wet behind the ears, but my early education in auto mechanics and later in
> electronics gives me the confidence that I can figure the systems out and
> keep it running for the most part. Also, the previous owner didn't
> skimp on
> the repairs, so I believe I have a pretty mechanically solid bus (for a 28
> year old bus that is).
>
> I have an old friend that lives in Bozeman, he is quite a character. His
> name is Raleigh Heydon, ever run into him?
>
> Gardner
> 78FC33
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
>
> [mailto:WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> ]On Behalf Of Terry - Bird
> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 9:24 PM
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
>
> Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Leather cleaner
>
> Hi Gardner,
>
> I sell & personally use this product (link below) for all leather
> products. It's 303 Protectant. It's great for dashboards, seats,
> plastics, etc. Also we use it on vinyls. Many RV stores carry it or
> you can order it on line. Congrats again on your new Bird. I know you
> will enjoy it immensely.
>
> http://www.303products.com/main.php
> <http://www.303products.com/main.php>
> <http://www.303products.com/main.php
> <http://www.303products.com/main.php>>
>
> Terry Neal
> Bozeman, MT
> 82PT40
> 74FC34
>
> Gardner Yeaw wrote:
>
> > What do most people use to clean the leather on the Flexsteel chairs?
> > The leather on mine needs to be cleaned, but I don't want to use
> > something that will damage it, or leave an undesirable odor. One of
> > the suggestions I have had is to use a moisturizing soap like Dove,
> > and wipe dry afterward. Any suggestions?
> >
> > Gardner
> > 78FC33
> >
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>



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[Jeff Miller]

What you think is leather is really vinyl (paint). The leather is
sprayed with a vinyl paint to color and protect the leather on most
leather seating (including the Flexsteel stuff). Your butt never
touches leather.

I use a commercial leather cleaner, which usually dries out the leather
(where the surface is cracked, real leather is exposed). After it is
clean and completely dry a conditioner should be used, pick your
favorite from Mink Oil to Lexol conditioner, you need to quench the
leather at these cracks so that it flexes instead of cracking deeper.

- Jeff Miller
in Holland, MI


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Gardner Yeaw"
wrote:
>
> What do most people use to clean the leather on the Flexsteel chairs?
> The leather on mine needs to be cleaned, but I don't want to use
> something that will damage it, or leave an undesirable odor. One of
> the suggestions I have had is to use a moisturizing soap like Dove,
> and wipe dry afterward. Any suggestions?
>
> Gardner
> 78FC33
>

[Gardner Yeaw]

Terry,
If you spent time in the local watering holes you would most likely have
run into Raleigh. I was out in Bozeman with my then future wife close to 30
years ago. It was a fun trip in an Econoline van. We went to Yellowstone,
Mount Rushmore, Bozeman and other stops along the way. With some luck we
can relive those days and add a few more memories in the Bluebird. I know
most people think I am nuts, but somehow there is a wonderful feeling when I
enter the coach and think about the history that it has. I was lucky that
the later owners kept records and put them in the ' Blue Box' for posterity.
It has been enlightening to read over the trip data and service history. I'm
having a ball and I haven't even spent the night in it yet!

Gardner
78FC33

-----Original Message-----
From: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Terry Neal
Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 10:15 PM
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Leather cleaner

Evening Gardner,

No, I haven't met your friend Raleigh but would like to. Sounds like a
great person. You will find so many helpful people in this Bluebird
bunch all over the US & Canada. My wife was not too enthralled with the
2nd Bird purchase (PT40) but after actually spending a couple of hours
in it, she too was figuring out what needed to be changed (she watches
HGTV a LOT) & what to put where. Sounds like you found a good one so
learn, use and enjoy it. We are in the process of a complete remodel &
repaint on the PT40 so I have been working on info to post in an album
one of these days or nights.

Terry Neal
Bozeman, MT
82PT40
74FC34

Gardner Yeaw wrote:

> Terry,
> Thanks, I will look into it. I see you are a 2 bird man. I am having a
> lot of fun with my new Bird. My wife, who only a couple of months ago
> said'
> over my dead body', has taken as keen interest in it. She is already
> working
> out where to put things like cloths, laundry, trash, etc. I am still very
> wet behind the ears, but my early education in auto mechanics and later in
> electronics gives me the confidence that I can figure the systems out and
> keep it running for the most part. Also, the previous owner didn't
> skimp on
> the repairs, so I believe I have a pretty mechanically solid bus (for a 28
> year old bus that is).
>
> I have an old friend that lives in Bozeman, he is quite a character. His
> name is Raleigh Heydon, ever run into him?
>
> Gardner
> 78FC33
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com

>
> [mailto: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com

> ]On Behalf Of Terry - Bird
> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 9:24 PM
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com

>
> Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Leather cleaner
>
> Hi Gardner,
>
> I sell & personally use this product (link below) for all leather
> products. It's 303 Protectant. It's great for dashboards, seats,
> plastics, etc. Also we use it on vinyls. Many RV stores carry it or
> you can order it on line. Congrats again on your new Bird. I know you
> will enjoy it immensely.
>
> http://www.303products.com/main.php <http://www.303products.com/main.php>
> < http://www.303products.com/main.php
<http://www.303products.com/main.php> >
> < http://www.303products.com/main.php
<http://www.303products.com/main.php>
> < http://www.303products.com/main.php
<http://www.303products.com/main.php> >>
>
> Terry Neal
> Bozeman, MT
> 82PT40
> 74FC34
>
> Gardner Yeaw wrote:
>
> > What do most people use to clean the leather on the Flexsteel chairs?
> > The leather on mine needs to be cleaned, but I don't want to use
> > something that will damage it, or leave an undesirable odor. One of
> > the suggestions I have had is to use a moisturizing soap like Dove,
> > and wipe dry afterward. Any suggestions?
> >
> > Gardner
> > 78FC33
> >
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>

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[g_man1146]

Exactly as Jeff said, the terms used by the leather industry can be,
and are probably meant to be, confusing. Quote "The most confusing
term used within the leather industry is the term 'top grain'.
Ironically, 'top grain' is the definition generally used when the
grain is not genuine; when, in fact, the real grain has been taken
away and an imitation grain embossed into the leather" (or a vinyl
applied).<Snip> "Although many finish applications are administered
for purposes other than altering or masking the surface of the
leather, all applied opaque finishes and airtight surface sealants
should be held suspect. Genuine, natural, unpigmented and
unplasticized leather will breathe and ventilate, thus wicking away
body heat. If upholstery leather is able to breathe, it can absorb
moisture, be nourished, and remain soft and pliable. If the surface
of the leather has been plasticized, as is the case for most
automobile upholstery, the leather cannot breathe and may become
stiff and boardy."

Link to all you ever wanter to know about leather terminology.

http://www.hidemarket.com/public/Hides/leaglos1.htm

Rich D. '99LXi43' CT




--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Miller"
wrote:
>
> What you think is leather is really vinyl (paint). The leather is
> sprayed with a vinyl paint to color and protect the leather on
most
> leather seating (including the Flexsteel stuff). Your butt never
> touches leather.
>
> I use a commercial leather cleaner, which usually dries out the
leather
> (where the surface is cracked, real leather is exposed). After it
is
> clean and completely dry a conditioner should be used, pick your
> favorite from Mink Oil to Lexol conditioner, you need to quench
the
> leather at these cracks so that it flexes instead of cracking
deeper.
>
> - Jeff Miller
> in Holland, MI
>