Engine alarm light on

[SFMEACH]

I am a newbie with a new to me '84 FC35. The engine alarm light has
come on a few times but not on others. All the gauges show normal
operation. This is the same coach that I had an issue with the buzzer
coming on intermitantly. Today the buzzer went off as soon as the air
came up to pressure but the engine alarm light stayed on. I think the
buzzer is either low coolant or the leveling legs not being fully
stowed in the up position. Unfortunately the BB manual is not much
help with the engine alarm since all it says on the topic is the light
comes on "when associated engine monitors detect and abnormal
operating condition". Any ideas on what the abnormal condition might
be?

Steve Meach
84 FC35
Paw Paw, MI

[Scott]

Steve, please do not take offense here BUT..some of the gurus
(Jeff&Gary) and others that may have experianced a similar problem have
given you an opinion as what to look for...WELL are the JACKS UP OR
NOT..and is the coolant low??? Have you checked?? I think one very
important thing I have learned about our coach is that the coach will
TELL you ...before catastrophic events happen..yes I did hear a
thump "occaisionally" before the endbell,stator etc left my genny!!
Also keep in mind it is pretty easy to practice the "KISS"
principal..keep it simple "silly" Just eliminate the "possible causes"
that others are offering and hope it is simple..Good luck and let us
know so we can all learn.
Scott
86FC35
Murrells Inlet SC
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "SFMEACH" <sfmeach@y...> wrote:
> I am a newbie with a new to me '84 FC35. The engine alarm light has
> come on a few times but not on others. All the gauges show normal
> operation. This is the same coach that I had an issue with the
buzzer
> coming on intermitantly. Today the buzzer went off as soon as the
air
> came up to pressure but the engine alarm light stayed on. I think
the
> buzzer is either low coolant or the leveling legs not being fully
> stowed in the up position. Unfortunately the BB manual is not much
> help with the engine alarm since all it says on the topic is the
light
> comes on "when associated engine monitors detect and abnormal
> operating condition". Any ideas on what the abnormal condition might
> be?
>
> Steve Meach
> 84 FC35
> Paw Paw, MI

[Gary Miller]

Steve,

Hang in there, we'll get you all straightened out before your first
rally.

The buzzers can be confusing since they're all the same type and
located in the same area. Fortunately, there are lights associated
with some of them, and things to check on with others to determine
what buzzer it might be.

The engine alarm light (and buzzer) will illuminate for an overtemp
of 210 degrees, oil pressure below 6psi, or low coolant, assuming all
senders are working. Each one is a different sender than the gauge
associated with it, so if your gauges are happy your engine is likely
happy. You now have one of two problems. Low coolant, or a bad wire
to a sending unit. The most common cause is the low coolant sender
wire, which is located on the top curbside of the radiator. Check it
for shorts and etc... The other senders are a bit more difficult to
access but the wires are much better protected. More on them if you
need it.

It's curious that you don't report the engine alarm buzzer being on
with the light. Perhaps this is your intermittent buzzer and the
light was unnoticed before?

If this all gets to be too much, swing open the headlight door on the
roadside and have a look at the wiring for anything obvious. If you
locate the offending buzzer, note the wire color and get back to us
with a post. Be careful with the bolts on the access panels as they
are sometimes seized and will possibly break off the nuts holding
them in place. Then they just spin freely and you'll have to cut
them off without hurting your paint. Penetrating oil to help remove,
and anti-seize for installation.

Best of luck,

Gary Miller
83 FC 33
Wauwatosa, WI

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "SFMEACH" <sfmeach@y...>
wrote:
> I am a newbie with a new to me '84 FC35. The engine alarm light
has
> come on a few times but not on others. All the gauges show normal
> operation. This is the same coach that I had an issue with the
buzzer
> coming on intermitantly. Today the buzzer went off as soon as the
air
> came up to pressure but the engine alarm light stayed on. I think
the
> buzzer is either low coolant or the leveling legs not being fully
> stowed in the up position. Unfortunately the BB manual is not much
> help with the engine alarm since all it says on the topic is the
light
> comes on "when associated engine monitors detect and abnormal
> operating condition". Any ideas on what the abnormal condition
might
> be?
>
> Steve Meach
> 84 FC35
> Paw Paw, MI

[SFMEACH]

Gary, thanks for the clarification. The prior issue was just the
buzzer, no lights. Now its the engine alarm light and no buzzer. Go
figure. I will go through your checklist.

Steve Meach
84 FC35
Paw Paw, MI

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Gary Miller"
wrote:
> Steve,
>
> Hang in there, we'll get you all straightened out before your first
> rally.
>
> The buzzers can be confusing since they're all the same type and
> located in the same area. Fortunately, there are lights associated
> with some of them, and things to check on with others to determine
> what buzzer it might be.
>
> The engine alarm light (and buzzer) will illuminate for an overtemp
> of 210 degrees, oil pressure below 6psi, or low coolant, assuming
all
> senders are working. Each one is a different sender than the gauge
> associated with it, so if your gauges are happy your engine is
likely
> happy. You now have one of two problems. Low coolant, or a bad
wire
> to a sending unit. The most common cause is the low coolant sender
> wire, which is located on the top curbside of the radiator. Check
it
> for shorts and etc... The other senders are a bit more difficult
to
> access but the wires are much better protected. More on them if
you
> need it.
>
> It's curious that you don't report the engine alarm buzzer being on
> with the light. Perhaps this is your intermittent buzzer and the
> light was unnoticed before?
>
> If this all gets to be too much, swing open the headlight door on
the
> roadside and have a look at the wiring for anything obvious. If
you
> locate the offending buzzer, note the wire color and get back to us
> with a post. Be careful with the bolts on the access panels as
they
> are sometimes seized and will possibly break off the nuts holding
> them in place. Then they just spin freely and you'll have to cut
> them off without hurting your paint. Penetrating oil to help
remove,
> and anti-seize for installation.
>
> Best of luck,
>
> Gary Miller
> 83 FC 33
> Wauwatosa, WI
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "SFMEACH" <sfmeach@y...>
> wrote:
> > I am a newbie with a new to me '84 FC35. The engine alarm light
> has
> > come on a few times but not on others. All the gauges show
normal
> > operation. This is the same coach that I had an issue with the
> buzzer
> > coming on intermitantly. Today the buzzer went off as soon as
the
> air
> > came up to pressure but the engine alarm light stayed on. I
think
> the
> > buzzer is either low coolant or the leveling legs not being fully
> > stowed in the up position. Unfortunately the BB manual is not
much
> > help with the engine alarm since all it says on the topic is the
> light
> > comes on "when associated engine monitors detect and abnormal
> > operating condition". Any ideas on what the abnormal condition
> might
> > be?
> >
> > Steve Meach
> > 84 FC35
> > Paw Paw, MI

[Jeff Miller]

If your digitel still works, turn it on. A jack warning will be
announced by the digitel. Also, watch the red jack warning lights (if
they all work), it should flash when a jack trips the buzzer.

Ground the water-level indicator wire temporarily, it should not set
off the engine alarm when grounded (indicating full coolant).

Process of elimination.

Headlamp warning? Shouldn't buzz with the headlamps off, sometimes
they do with the headlamps on and low ignition-switch voltage (with
AC blower on for example).

- Jeff Miller
http://www.wanderlodge.net
http://www.millercoachworks.com


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "SFMEACH" <sfmeach@y...>
wrote:
> Gary, thanks for the clarification. The prior issue was just the
> buzzer, no lights. Now its the engine alarm light and no buzzer.
Go
> figure. I will go through your checklist.
>
> Steve Meach
> 84 FC35
> Paw Paw, MI
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Gary Miller"
> wrote:
> > Steve,
> >
> > Hang in there, we'll get you all straightened out before your
first
> > rally.
> >
> > The buzzers can be confusing since they're all the same type and
> > located in the same area. Fortunately, there are lights
associated
> > with some of them, and things to check on with others to
determine
> > what buzzer it might be.
> >
> > The engine alarm light (and buzzer) will illuminate for an
overtemp
> > of 210 degrees, oil pressure below 6psi, or low coolant, assuming
> all
> > senders are working. Each one is a different sender than the
gauge
> > associated with it, so if your gauges are happy your engine is
> likely
> > happy. You now have one of two problems. Low coolant, or a bad
> wire
> > to a sending unit. The most common cause is the low coolant
sender
> > wire, which is located on the top curbside of the radiator.
Check
> it
> > for shorts and etc... The other senders are a bit more difficult
> to
> > access but the wires are much better protected. More on them if
> you
> > need it.
> >
> > It's curious that you don't report the engine alarm buzzer being
on
> > with the light. Perhaps this is your intermittent buzzer and the
> > light was unnoticed before?
> >
> > If this all gets to be too much, swing open the headlight door on
> the
> > roadside and have a look at the wiring for anything obvious. If
> you
> > locate the offending buzzer, note the wire color and get back to
us
> > with a post. Be careful with the bolts on the access panels as
> they
> > are sometimes seized and will possibly break off the nuts holding
> > them in place. Then they just spin freely and you'll have to cut
> > them off without hurting your paint. Penetrating oil to help
> remove,
> > and anti-seize for installation.
> >
> > Best of luck,
> >
> > Gary Miller
> > 83 FC 33
> > Wauwatosa, WI
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "SFMEACH" <sfmeach@y...>
> > wrote:
> > > I am a newbie with a new to me '84 FC35. The engine alarm
light
> > has
> > > come on a few times but not on others. All the gauges show
> normal
> > > operation. This is the same coach that I had an issue with the
> > buzzer
> > > coming on intermitantly. Today the buzzer went off as soon as
> the
> > air
> > > came up to pressure but the engine alarm light stayed on. I
> think
> > the
> > > buzzer is either low coolant or the leveling legs not being
fully
> > > stowed in the up position. Unfortunately the BB manual is not
> much
> > > help with the engine alarm since all it says on the topic is
the
> > light
> > > comes on "when associated engine monitors detect and abnormal
> > > operating condition". Any ideas on what the abnormal condition
> > might
> > > be?
> > >
> > > Steve Meach
> > > 84 FC35
> > > Paw Paw, MI