Dry Camping@#$%^&*()!!!!???????

[erniecarpet@...]

hey hank- come on up--

Ernie Ekberg
83PT40
Weatherford, Tx




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[Juergen]

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, erniecarpet@... wrote:
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> Thanks, Don, I thought, since I just turned 60- that I was having a
senior
> moment. Oh, well, back to bird BIDNESS!! Wish I could dry camp, but
with just
> 4 batteries- 2 for house and 2 for start, my voltage drops like a
rock.
>
> Ernie Ekberg
> 83PT40
> Weatherford, Tx
>
> Hi Ernie
Since you are now 60, Senior moments are more myth than fact. So, have
you considered studying your electric system? Go to Phred Tinseth
poopsheets on electricity and with your age and hopefully time, you
can read and learn all that POOP. You can find him on Google. Its neat
Juergen in PA
1991 WLSP 36
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[Dorn Hetzel]

It's going to probably be at least a few years more before the prices aren't
too nasty to bear, but fuel cell power for silent dry camping may eventually
be just about the perfect thing. Even a 500 watt fuel cell combined with
batteries for surge demand could cover a lot

On Dec 12, 2007 5:32 PM, wrote:

> Hi Jurgen, I have heard about those "poop" sheets that Phred has
> written.
> Very good info.
>
>
> Ernie Ekberg
> 83PT40
> Weatherford, Tx
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[Henry Jay Hannigan]

---WAY TO GO ERNIE!!

Hank
80SP36



In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, erniecarpet@... wrote:
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>
> In a message dated 12/11/2007 10:17:46 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> bumpersbird@... writes:
>
> By the way I have read all the posts on this question and I don't
believe
> anybody answered this mans question in any satisfactory manner.
Personally, I
> would like to see less B.S. and more of what this forum about.
>
>
> Excuse me--- that topic was NOT on this forum. Signing posts on
this forum
> is what is expected from all members.
>
> Ernie Ekberg
> 83PT40
> Weatherford, Tx
> Wanderlodgeforum.org, owner
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[Henry Jay Hannigan]

---John: Keep those EU2000's..they are GOLD over here and cost $2300
aus each........
Regards,
Hank
90SP36



In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "bubblerboy64"
wrote:
>
> This has got me thinking a little. I have a couple Honda EU2000
> generators from my days with travel trailers and such. They are
very
> fuel efficient and very quiet. I have two and when tired together
in
> parallel they would run my roof air no problem. I don't know how
> much it would take to keep the batteries charged but you can set
one
> of these little Honda generators off some distance from the coach
and
> I don't think you would even know it was running. They weigh about
> 40 lbs and there is even a 1000 watt which goes 25lbs. You have
> plenty of storage on these big rigs would this help out enough to
be
> of advantage? I was thinking of selling my generators but after
> reading this I have concluded that might be premature.
>
> John Heckman
> central Pa
> 1973 FC
>
>
>
> >
> > Kurt,
> >
> > The original question was posted to both this list and the other
> > Wanderlodge list. I wrote a lengthy reply on the other list, but
> made
> > an off-hand remark on this list which apparently annoyed someone.
> >
> > I also mentioned in my second post that I had replied on "the
> other
> > list."
> >
> > Since I have an all-electric coach, as does the original person
> > making the query, I felt that I had some experience with the
issue
> > and that I could provide some helpful information.
> >
> > In my case, the 6 model 4D AGM batteries will not supply enough
> power
> > to dry camp without serious to extreme power conservation. I
made
> > this discovery while camped in the California San Simeon State
> Park
> > in the "unimproved" camping area where no shore power was
> available.
> > It was last February and the weather was cool -- well, cold for
CA.
> >
> > I ran the generator for a couple of hours at a stretch several
> during
> > the day -- and at meal times when it was necessary to use the
> > electric cook top (it is not attached to my inverters). I then
> would
> > run the generator from the time dinner was prepared until the
> > beginning of "quiet time" at 8PM. In the CA state park, quiet
time
> > extends until 10 AM. However, by 8AM, the batteries were
seriously
> > depleted. To preserve them I had to cut all power use until I
> could
> > start the generator.
> >
> > Lets just say it was darn cold and we had a cold breakfast. No
> heat,
> > no lights, no nothing.
> >
> > I replaced the batteries at a cost of over $2000 with 6 new
AGMs.
> > While the old batteries weren't that old, they had been
> overcharged
> > for about 6 months while in dealer's hands between the previous
> owner
> > and my taking possession. (Another reason I'm not particularly
> > impressed with "dealer knowledge.") Apparently, the (non-standard
> for
> > BB of that era) Heart Link 2000-R battery controller had been
> reset
> > to the default condition, which was for wet cell batteries and
was
> > charging the AGMs at a too-high voltage (this continued for
> several
> > months after my taking possession until I learned of the problem
> by
> > reading and studying about the systems on my coach). After the
> > experience I had at San Simeon State Park, I concluded that the
> > batteries might have been damaged.
> >
> > This past summer, I was in Oregon at a cabinet maker having some
> > custom work done on my coach. Unfortunately, the generator fan
> failed
> > on me and I was "dry camping" (in their parking lot) without any
> 120
> > power. I turned off the inverters and shed as much load as I
could -
> -
> > but the batteries still dropped down to a low state of charge in
a
> > relatively short time period. The Heart Link 2000-R does also
> control
> > charging from the engine alternator, so I was able to preserve
the
> > batteries by running the engine (470 HP DD Series 60 to provide
a
> > little electricity!).
> >
> > I have since concluded that my coach, as it is currently
equipped,
> is
> > not suitable for lengthy dry camping situations, particularly
when
> > there are significant restrictions on operating the generator. I
> can
> > manage about a 12 hour "quiet time" (8pm-8am) without serious
> > consequences -- but longer quiet times present a serious
challenge
> > and degrade the pleasure of the experience.
> >
> > If my coach had LP gas powering the refrigerator (primary drain
on
> > the batteries while off shore power), then dry camping would
> likely
> > be more manageable. However, I do like having the 24 cu ft home-
> style
> > Amana 2-door refrigerator. If I were to replace it with a new,
> more
> > efficient refrigerator, dry camping might be a more practical
> > possibility.
> >
> > As for the salesman telling someone buying an all-electric BB
that
> > dry camping is "no problem", that strikes me, based on my
> experience,
> > as being rather less than the full truth.
> >
> > Pete Masterson
> > '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
> > aeonix1@
> > On the road at
> >
> >
> > <snip>
> > >>
> > > Ernie,
> > >
> > > If the question of DRY CAMPING was not posted on your website,
> where
> > > did I get the idea that a person wanted to know why the dealer
he
> > > bought his coach from said he would have a problem dry camping
at
> his
> > > BBQ competions. I thought it was an interesting question.
> > >
> > > I will never forget to sign a post again Ernie I promiss
> > >
> > > KURT D. HORVATH
> > > FAYETTEVILLE, TENNESSEE, U.S.A.
> > > 1995 WLWB 42
> >
>

[Henry Jay Hannigan]

---Hey Ernie!
Commin back up near end of January soon as "Aussie Millions"
finishes...hope I have enough winnings to order a 2009 SP 38....

noticed that I signed 80SP36 instaed of 90SP36..heck I turned 66 last
month so it must be a Senior moment/second too.
Regards,
Hank & Naty
90SP36 (stored in VEGAS)

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> Ernie Ekberg
> 83PT40
> Weatherford, Tx
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