450lxi owners

[Dan and Cindy Sunderland]

All owners of 450Lxi Bluebirds that monitor this board, lets get some inherent
issues with
our buses resolved. I personally want to get a contact list of as many owners
together, so
we can find solutions to thes issues and resolve the problems.

Thanks
Dan
05 450Lxi
San Marcos, CA

[JERRY SMITH]

Dan, curious as to what type problems you have been having, since I have a
2005 LXI?

Jerry Smith
2005 450 LXI
Sarasota, Fl.

-------Original Message-------

From: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Date: 12/22/07 10:46:08
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] 450lxi owners

All owners of 450Lxi Bluebirds that monitor this board, lets get some
inherent issues with
our buses resolved. I personally want to get a contact list of as many
owners together, so
we can find solutions to thes issues and resolve the problems.

Thanks
Dan
05 450Lxi
San Marcos, CA





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Gregory OConnor]

The forum would be a good place to document such a list. start a
thread with issues and a good subject line so it is archived for
future reference. What beter a place for folks to find solutions to
issues and to add insight to a fix then a forum search.I am looking
to get a 05 or 08 in ten years or so, hope you guys share the wealth
of tried and proven solutions.

A good way to search all of Yahoo forums is to use a google search
and put an address to the searchphrase ( google seems to give better
results)

enter

Wanderlodge 8v92 oil site:yahoo.com


no space between "site:(address) this will yield results from all of
the yahoo forums


GregoryO'Connor
94ptRomolandCa


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Dan and Cindy Sunderland"
<86bluebird@...> wrote:
>
> All owners of 450Lxi Bluebirds that monitor this board, lets get
some inherent issues with
> our buses resolved. I personally want to get a contact list of as
many owners together, so
> we can find solutions to thes issues and resolve the problems.
>
> Thanks
> Dan
> 05 450Lxi
> San Marcos, CA
>

[Dan and Cindy Sunderland]

Hi Jerry

We have had electrical charging problems from the chassis ayatem (Alternators).
BB has
resolved this problem. Buddy Trussel is the engineer who got the problem
resolved.

We had a lot of small items, too many to mention here. Contact me off line.
760-744
-1621.

Still have a leveling problem with the Hadley system. I am going to contact
them
personally and try to resolve if possible. We lean to the road side between 1/2
and 5
hours after leveling.

We have a blowby problem with the CAT. CAT is working on the problem. Not
resolved
yet.

Weight issue on the front axle. GVWR is 16000lbs. We weigh loaded 18300lbs.
Coachworks is working on the problem with Bluebird bus company. Not resolved
yet. My
concern is we have to have our front tires inflated to 130lbs to carry this
weight and this
only covers us to 9090 per tire. Wheels are only rated to 9000 each. We just
drove 2200
miles with this air pressure in the front tires and the coach rides hard and the
bumps and
holes are jaw shaking. I am looking into asking Hadley if we can move some
weight off
the front end to the drive axle by lowering the tag axle pressure. I do not
know how to do
this as the system is mostly computerized. There in lies the problem.

The coach drives like a dream and handles better than anything on the road. We
just need
to get a few things resolved.

Complete Coachworks is doing a great job and hopefully will get this resolved.

I would like to know if this problem exists with all the 450s. Most owners are
not on any
forums.

One thing I would like to ad is --anyone owning a coach with a C13 CAT engine
should
check in with a warranty station, or call the CAT RV hotline from their web page
and make
sure their motor has all the current updates. Mine needed 4 and a dipstick
calibration.
The motor was being over filled by 2 quarts of oil. All 450 owners need to get
to a
warranty station and have their engine checked out.

thanks for the inquiry
Dan
2005 4540Lxi
San MArcos, CA






--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "JERRY SMITH" <medpro@...> wrote:
>
> Dan, curious as to what type problems you have been having, since I have a
> 2005 LXI?
>
> Jerry Smith
> 2005 450 LXI
> Sarasota, Fl.
>
> -------Original Message-------
>
> From: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Date: 12/22/07 10:46:08
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] 450lxi owners
>
> All owners of 450Lxi Bluebirds that monitor this board, lets get some
> inherent issues with
> our buses resolved. I personally want to get a contact list of as many
> owners together, so
> we can find solutions to thes issues and resolve the problems.
>
> Thanks
> Dan
> 05 450Lxi
> San Marcos, CA
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

[JERRY SMITH]

Dan, have had no problems with leveling. Have had electrical as my 50 amp
EMS by Intellilec in the bedroom does not light up at all. Does yours light
up when plugged in?

Thanks for the info on Cat. I will contact them for any update. There is
Cat dealer about 20 miles from me.

I do believe the front axle weight carrying capacity is a problem. Let me
know if you find out anything.

I do plan to go up to Ft. Valley, Ga. in the next couple of months.

I agree drives like a dream. I previously had two Country Coaches and an
American Eagle. No comparison in the quietness and smooth drive.

Thanks and stay in touch. I will do the same.

Jerry
2005 450 LXI
Sarasota, Fl.

-------Original Message-------

From: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Date: 12/23/07 00:07:10
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: 450lxi owners



Hi Jerry

We have had electrical charging problems from the chassis ayatem
(Alternators). BB has
resolved this problem. Buddy Trussel is the engineer who got the problem
resolved.

We had a lot of small items, too many to mention here. Contact me off line.
760-744
-1621.

Still have a leveling problem with the Hadley system. I am going to contact
them
personally and try to resolve if possible. We lean to the road side between
1/2 and 5
hours after leveling.

We have a blowby problem with the CAT. CAT is working on the problem. Not
resolved
yet.

Weight issue on the front axle. GVWR is 16000lbs. We weigh loaded 18300lbs.
Coachworks is working on the problem with Bluebird bus company. Not resolved
yet. My
concern is we have to have our front tires inflated to 130lbs to carry this
weight and this
only covers us to 9090 per tire. Wheels are only rated to 9000 each. We just
drove 2200
miles with this air pressure in the front tires and the coach rides hard and
the bumps and
holes are jaw shaking. I am looking into asking Hadley if we can move some
weight off
the front end to the drive axle by lowering the tag axle pressure. I do not
know how to do
this as the system is mostly computerized. There in lies the problem.

The coach drives like a dream and handles better than anything on the road.
We just need
to get a few things resolved.

Complete Coachworks is doing a great job and hopefully will get this
resolved.

I would like to know if this problem exists with all the 450s. Most owners
are not on any
forums.

One thing I would like to ad is --anyone owning a coach with a C13 CAT
engine should
check in with a warranty station, or call the CAT RV hotline from their web
page and make
sure their motor has all the current updates. Mine needed 4 and a dipstick
calibration.
The motor was being over filled by 2 quarts of oil. All 450 owners need to
get to a
warranty station and have their engine checked out.

thanks for the inquiry
Dan
2005 4540Lxi
San MArcos, CA

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "JERRY SMITH" <medpro@...> wrote:
>
> Dan, curious as to what type problems you have been having, since I have a
> 2005 LXI?
>
> Jerry Smith
> 2005 450 LXI
> Sarasota, Fl.
>
> -------Original Message-------
>
> From: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Date: 12/22/07 10:46:08
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] 450lxi owners
>
> All owners of 450Lxi Bluebirds that monitor this board, lets get some
> inherent issues with
> our buses resolved. I personally want to get a contact list of as many
> owners together, so
> we can find solutions to thes issues and resolve the problems.
>
> Thanks
> Dan
> 05 450Lxi
> San Marcos, CA
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[david brady]

Hi Dan,

Any chance of upgrading to 10.5 inch wheels and 365/70/22.5 tires?
Prevost' often run front axle weights similar to yours and have been
using the 365 tires for quite some time. I wouldn't get my hopes up
on tag axle pressure adjustment fixing your problem. With a wheelbase
as long as the 450's you could competely remove the tag axle and the
decrease on the front axle would only be a few hundred pounds. Give
me the axle weights and wheelbase and I'll tell you more precisely
how much weight transfer you can expect.

David Brady
'02 LXi, CA


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Dan and Cindy Sunderland"
<86bluebird@...> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Hi Jerry
>
> We have had electrical charging problems from the chassis ayatem
(Alternators). BB has
> resolved this problem. Buddy Trussel is the engineer who got the
problem resolved.
>
> We had a lot of small items, too many to mention here. Contact me
off line. 760-744
> -1621.
>
> Still have a leveling problem with the Hadley system. I am going
to contact them
> personally and try to resolve if possible. We lean to the road
side between 1/2 and 5
> hours after leveling.
>
> We have a blowby problem with the CAT. CAT is working on the
problem. Not resolved
> yet.
>
> Weight issue on the front axle. GVWR is 16000lbs. We weigh loaded
18300lbs.
> Coachworks is working on the problem with Bluebird bus company.
Not resolved yet. My
> concern is we have to have our front tires inflated to 130lbs to
carry this weight and this
> only covers us to 9090 per tire. Wheels are only rated to 9000
each. We just drove 2200
> miles with this air pressure in the front tires and the coach rides
hard and the bumps and
> holes are jaw shaking. I am looking into asking Hadley if we can
move some weight off
> the front end to the drive axle by lowering the tag axle pressure.
I do not know how to do
> this as the system is mostly computerized. There in lies the
problem.
>
> The coach drives like a dream and handles better than anything on
the road. We just need
> to get a few things resolved.
>
> Complete Coachworks is doing a great job and hopefully will get
this resolved.
>
> I would like to know if this problem exists with all the 450s.
Most owners are not on any
> forums.
>
> One thing I would like to ad is --anyone owning a coach with a C13
CAT engine should
> check in with a warranty station, or call the CAT RV hotline from
their web page and make
> sure their motor has all the current updates. Mine needed 4 and a
dipstick calibration.
> The motor was being over filled by 2 quarts of oil. All 450 owners
need to get to a
> warranty station and have their engine checked out.
>
> thanks for the inquiry
> Dan
> 2005 4540Lxi
> San MArcos, CA
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "JERRY SMITH" <medpro@>
wrote:
> >
> > Dan, curious as to what type problems you have been having, since
I have a
> > 2005 LXI?
> >
> > Jerry Smith
> > 2005 450 LXI
> > Sarasota, Fl.
> >
> > -------Original Message-------
> >
> > From: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: 12/22/07 10:46:08
> > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] 450lxi owners
> >
> > All owners of 450Lxi Bluebirds that monitor this board, lets get
some
> > inherent issues with
> > our buses resolved. I personally want to get a contact list of as
many
> > owners together, so
> > we can find solutions to thes issues and resolve the problems.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Dan
> > 05 450Lxi
> > San Marcos, CA
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>

[Dan and Cindy Sunderland]

My 50 amp Intellitec appears to be ok. I need to read up on the whole
Intellitec system so
as to try and understand the system. Allen Barbee told me you have to add the
current
numbers front and rear to get total current, I have not confirmed this yet.
PLan on tesing
total current through the shore power cable when I get a chance.

We are having some hot water issues when on 30 amp. Do not know why.

Air leveling--when you have air (SLS) on do you leave the set button
illuminated? or turn it
off?

Dan
05-450Lxi
San Marcos, CA


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "JERRY SMITH" <medpro@...> wrote:
>
> Dan, have had no problems with leveling. Have had electrical as my 50 amp
> EMS by Intellilec in the bedroom does not light up at all. Does yours light
> up when plugged in?
>
> Thanks for the info on Cat. I will contact them for any update. There is
> Cat dealer about 20 miles from me.
>
> I do believe the front axle weight carrying capacity is a problem. Let me
> know if you find out anything.
>
> I do plan to go up to Ft. Valley, Ga. in the next couple of months.
>
> I agree drives like a dream. I previously had two Country Coaches and an
> American Eagle. No comparison in the quietness and smooth drive.
>
> Thanks and stay in touch. I will do the same.
>
> Jerry
> 2005 450 LXI
> Sarasota, Fl.
>
> -------Original Message-------
>
> From: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Date: 12/23/07 00:07:10
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: 450lxi owners
>
>
>
> Hi Jerry
>
> We have had electrical charging problems from the chassis ayatem
> (Alternators). BB has
> resolved this problem. Buddy Trussel is the engineer who got the problem
> resolved.
>
> We had a lot of small items, too many to mention here. Contact me off line.
> 760-744
> -1621.
>
> Still have a leveling problem with the Hadley system. I am going to contact
> them
> personally and try to resolve if possible. We lean to the road side between
> 1/2 and 5
> hours after leveling.
>
> We have a blowby problem with the CAT. CAT is working on the problem. Not
> resolved
> yet.
>
> Weight issue on the front axle. GVWR is 16000lbs. We weigh loaded 18300lbs.
> Coachworks is working on the problem with Bluebird bus company. Not resolved
> yet. My
> concern is we have to have our front tires inflated to 130lbs to carry this
> weight and this
> only covers us to 9090 per tire. Wheels are only rated to 9000 each. We just
> drove 2200
> miles with this air pressure in the front tires and the coach rides hard and
> the bumps and
> holes are jaw shaking. I am looking into asking Hadley if we can move some
> weight off
> the front end to the drive axle by lowering the tag axle pressure. I do not
> know how to do
> this as the system is mostly computerized. There in lies the problem.
>
> The coach drives like a dream and handles better than anything on the road.
> We just need
> to get a few things resolved.
>
> Complete Coachworks is doing a great job and hopefully will get this
> resolved.
>
> I would like to know if this problem exists with all the 450s. Most owners
> are not on any
> forums.
>
> One thing I would like to ad is --anyone owning a coach with a C13 CAT
> engine should
> check in with a warranty station, or call the CAT RV hotline from their web
> page and make
> sure their motor has all the current updates. Mine needed 4 and a dipstick
> calibration.
> The motor was being over filled by 2 quarts of oil. All 450 owners need to
> get to a
> warranty station and have their engine checked out.
>
> thanks for the inquiry
> Dan
> 2005 4540Lxi
> San MArcos, CA
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "JERRY SMITH" <medpro@> wrote:
> >
> > Dan, curious as to what type problems you have been having, since I have a
> > 2005 LXI?
> >
> > Jerry Smith
> > 2005 450 LXI
> > Sarasota, Fl.
> >
> > -------Original Message-------
> >
> > From: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: 12/22/07 10:46:08
> > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] 450lxi owners
> >
> > All owners of 450Lxi Bluebirds that monitor this board, lets get some
> > inherent issues with
> > our buses resolved. I personally want to get a contact list of as many
> > owners together, so
> > we can find solutions to thes issues and resolve the problems.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Dan
> > 05 450Lxi
> > San Marcos, CA
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

[Dan and Cindy Sunderland]

My 50 amp Intellitec appears to be ok. I need to read up on the whole
Intellitec system so
as to try and understand the system. Allen Barbee told me you have to add the
current
numbers front and rear to get total current, I have not confirmed this yet.
PLan on tesing
total current through the shore power cable when I get a chance.

We are having some hot water issues when on 30 amp. Do not know why.

Air leveling--when you have air (SLS) on do you leave the set button
illuminated? or turn it
off?

Dan
05-450Lxi
San Marcos, CA


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "JERRY SMITH" <medpro@...> wrote:
>
> Dan, have had no problems with leveling. Have had electrical as my 50 amp
> EMS by Intellilec in the bedroom does not light up at all. Does yours light
> up when plugged in?
>
> Thanks for the info on Cat. I will contact them for any update. There is
> Cat dealer about 20 miles from me.
>
> I do believe the front axle weight carrying capacity is a problem. Let me
> know if you find out anything.
>
> I do plan to go up to Ft. Valley, Ga. in the next couple of months.
>
> I agree drives like a dream. I previously had two Country Coaches and an
> American Eagle. No comparison in the quietness and smooth drive.
>
> Thanks and stay in touch. I will do the same.
>
> Jerry
> 2005 450 LXI
> Sarasota, Fl.
>
> -------Original Message-------
>
> From: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Date: 12/23/07 00:07:10
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: 450lxi owners
>
>
>
> Hi Jerry
>
> We have had electrical charging problems from the chassis ayatem
> (Alternators). BB has
> resolved this problem. Buddy Trussel is the engineer who got the problem
> resolved.
>
> We had a lot of small items, too many to mention here. Contact me off line.
> 760-744
> -1621.
>
> Still have a leveling problem with the Hadley system. I am going to contact
> them
> personally and try to resolve if possible. We lean to the road side between
> 1/2 and 5
> hours after leveling.
>
> We have a blowby problem with the CAT. CAT is working on the problem. Not
> resolved
> yet.
>
> Weight issue on the front axle. GVWR is 16000lbs. We weigh loaded 18300lbs.
> Coachworks is working on the problem with Bluebird bus company. Not resolved
> yet. My
> concern is we have to have our front tires inflated to 130lbs to carry this
> weight and this
> only covers us to 9090 per tire. Wheels are only rated to 9000 each. We just
> drove 2200
> miles with this air pressure in the front tires and the coach rides hard and
> the bumps and
> holes are jaw shaking. I am looking into asking Hadley if we can move some
> weight off
> the front end to the drive axle by lowering the tag axle pressure. I do not
> know how to do
> this as the system is mostly computerized. There in lies the problem.
>
> The coach drives like a dream and handles better than anything on the road.
> We just need
> to get a few things resolved.
>
> Complete Coachworks is doing a great job and hopefully will get this
> resolved.
>
> I would like to know if this problem exists with all the 450s. Most owners
> are not on any
> forums.
>
> One thing I would like to ad is --anyone owning a coach with a C13 CAT
> engine should
> check in with a warranty station, or call the CAT RV hotline from their web
> page and make
> sure their motor has all the current updates. Mine needed 4 and a dipstick
> calibration.
> The motor was being over filled by 2 quarts of oil. All 450 owners need to
> get to a
> warranty station and have their engine checked out.
>
> thanks for the inquiry
> Dan
> 2005 4540Lxi
> San MArcos, CA
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "JERRY SMITH" <medpro@> wrote:
> >
> > Dan, curious as to what type problems you have been having, since I have a
> > 2005 LXI?
> >
> > Jerry Smith
> > 2005 450 LXI
> > Sarasota, Fl.
> >
> > -------Original Message-------
> >
> > From: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: 12/22/07 10:46:08
> > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] 450lxi owners
> >
> > All owners of 450Lxi Bluebirds that monitor this board, lets get some
> > inherent issues with
> > our buses resolved. I personally want to get a contact list of as many
> > owners together, so
> > we can find solutions to thes issues and resolve the problems.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Dan
> > 05 450Lxi
> > San Marcos, CA
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

[Ross MacKillop]

Hi,
After the SLS sytem has done its thing and the set light has illuminated
steadily, I think you should press set again. This turns off the light and puts
the SLS into "Standby mode to save battery" I don't know why it doesn't just
say to press SLS and turn it off.
The "learn " level reset button is inside 1st bay curb side.
Hot water is 2nd from the top on the top EMS panel . It sheds off second to the
air compressor when over 30 amps is called for.
My lower EMS panel occasionally sheds off completely for no reason with 50 AMPS.
Reset inverter or the main breaker on the upper right sub panel and all is well
again.
Ross
2006 450LXi
Cambridge, Ontario
Casa Grande

----- Original Message ----
From: Dan and Cindy Sunderland <86bluebird@...>
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 5:16:29 PM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: 450lxi owners













My 50 amp Intellitec appears to be ok. I need to read up on the
whole Intellitec system so

as to try and understand the system. Allen Barbee told me you have to add the
current

numbers front and rear to get total current, I have not confirmed this yet.
PLan on tesing

total current through the shore power cable when I get a chance.



We are having some hot water issues when on 30 amp. Do not know why.



Air leveling--when you have air (SLS) on do you leave the set button
illuminated? or turn it

off?



Dan

05-450Lxi

San Marcos, CA



--- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, "JERRY SMITH" <medpro@...> wrote:

>

> Dan, have had no problems with leveling. Have had electrical as my 50 amp

> EMS by Intellilec in the bedroom does not light up at all. Does yours light

> up when plugged in?

>

> Thanks for the info on Cat. I will contact them for any update. There is

> Cat dealer about 20 miles from me.

>

> I do believe the front axle weight carrying capacity is a problem. Let me

> know if you find out anything.

>

> I do plan to go up to Ft. Valley, Ga. in the next couple of months.

>

> I agree drives like a dream. I previously had two Country Coaches and an

> American Eagle. No comparison in the quietness and smooth drive.

>

> Thanks and stay in touch. I will do the same.

>

> Jerry

> 2005 450 LXI

> Sarasota, Fl.

>

> -------Original Message----- --

>

> From: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com

> Date: 12/23/07 00:07:10

> To: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com

> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: 450lxi owners

>

>

>

> Hi Jerry

>

> We have had electrical charging problems from the chassis ayatem

> (Alternators) . BB has

> resolved this problem. Buddy Trussel is the engineer who got the problem

> resolved.

>

> We had a lot of small items, too many to mention here. Contact me off line.

> 760-744

> -1621.

>

> Still have a leveling problem with the Hadley system. I am going to contact

> them

> personally and try to resolve if possible. We lean to the road side between

> 1/2 and 5

> hours after leveling.

>

> We have a blowby problem with the CAT. CAT is working on the problem. Not

> resolved

> yet.

>

> Weight issue on the front axle. GVWR is 16000lbs. We weigh loaded 18300lbs.

> Coachworks is working on the problem with Bluebird bus company. Not resolved

> yet. My

> concern is we have to have our front tires inflated to 130lbs to carry this

> weight and this

> only covers us to 9090 per tire. Wheels are only rated to 9000 each. We just

> drove 2200

> miles with this air pressure in the front tires and the coach rides hard and

> the bumps and

> holes are jaw shaking. I am looking into asking Hadley if we can move some

> weight off

> the front end to the drive axle by lowering the tag axle pressure. I do not

> know how to do

> this as the system is mostly computerized. There in lies the problem.

>

> The coach drives like a dream and handles better than anything on the road.

> We just need

> to get a few things resolved.

>

> Complete Coachworks is doing a great job and hopefully will get this

> resolved.

>

> I would like to know if this problem exists with all the 450s. Most owners

> are not on any

> forums.

>

> One thing I would like to ad is --anyone owning a coach with a C13 CAT

> engine should

> check in with a warranty station, or call the CAT RV hotline from their web

> page and make

> sure their motor has all the current updates. Mine needed 4 and a dipstick

> calibration.

> The motor was being over filled by 2 quarts of oil. All 450 owners need to

> get to a

> warranty station and have their engine checked out.

>

> thanks for the inquiry

> Dan

> 2005 4540Lxi

> San MArcos, CA

>

> --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, "JERRY SMITH" <medpro@> wrote:

> >

> > Dan, curious as to what type problems you have been having, since I have a

> > 2005 LXI?

> >

> > Jerry Smith

> > 2005 450 LXI

> > Sarasota, Fl.

> >

> > -------Original Message----- --

> >

> > From: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com

> > Date: 12/22/07 10:46:08

> > To: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com

> > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] 450lxi owners

> >

> > All owners of 450Lxi Bluebirds that monitor this board, lets get some

> > inherent issues with

> > our buses resolved. I personally want to get a contact list of as many

> > owners together, so

> > we can find solutions to thes issues and resolve the problems.

> >

> > Thanks

> > Dan

> > 05 450Lxi

> > San Marcos, CA

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

> >

>

>

>

>

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[JERRY SMITH]

Dan, thanks for reply. I do as Ross indicates and turn off the SLS. Don't
know about the hot water problem.

Jerry
2005 450 LXI

-------Original Message-------

From: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Date: 12/29/07 19:16:31
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: 450lxi owners

My 50 amp Intellitec appears to be ok. I need to read up on the whole
Intellitec system so
as to try and understand the system. Allen Barbee told me you have to add
the current
numbers front and rear to get total current, I have not confirmed this yet.
PLan on tesing
total current through the shore power cable when I get a chance.

We are having some hot water issues when on 30 amp. Do not know why.

Air leveling--when you have air (SLS) on do you leave the set button
illuminated? or turn it
off?

Dan
05-450Lxi
San Marcos, CA

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "JERRY SMITH" <medpro@...> wrote:
>
> Dan, have had no problems with leveling. Have had electrical as my 50 amp
> EMS by Intellilec in the bedroom does not light up at all. Does yours
light
> up when plugged in?
>
> Thanks for the info on Cat. I will contact them for any update. There is
> Cat dealer about 20 miles from me.
>
> I do believe the front axle weight carrying capacity is a problem. Let me
> know if you find out anything.
>
> I do plan to go up to Ft. Valley, Ga. in the next couple of months.
>
> I agree drives like a dream. I previously had two Country Coaches and an
> American Eagle. No comparison in the quietness and smooth drive.
>
> Thanks and stay in touch. I will do the same.
>
> Jerry
> 2005 450 LXI
> Sarasota, Fl.
>
> -------Original Message-------
>
> From: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Date: 12/23/07 00:07:10
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: 450lxi owners
>
>
>
> Hi Jerry
>
> We have had electrical charging problems from the chassis ayatem
> (Alternators). BB has
> resolved this problem. Buddy Trussel is the engineer who got the problem
> resolved.
>
> We had a lot of small items, too many to mention here. Contact me off line

> 760-744
> -1621.
>
> Still have a leveling problem with the Hadley system. I am going to
contact
> them
> personally and try to resolve if possible. We lean to the road side
between
> 1/2 and 5
> hours after leveling.
>
> We have a blowby problem with the CAT. CAT is working on the problem. Not
> resolved
> yet.
>
> Weight issue on the front axle. GVWR is 16000lbs. We weigh loaded 18300lbs

> Coachworks is working on the problem with Bluebird bus company. Not
resolved
> yet. My
> concern is we have to have our front tires inflated to 130lbs to carry
this
> weight and this
> only covers us to 9090 per tire. Wheels are only rated to 9000 each. We
just
> drove 2200
> miles with this air pressure in the front tires and the coach rides hard
and
> the bumps and
> holes are jaw shaking. I am looking into asking Hadley if we can move some
> weight off
> the front end to the drive axle by lowering the tag axle pressure. I do
not
> know how to do
> this as the system is mostly computerized. There in lies the problem.
>
> The coach drives like a dream and handles better than anything on the road

> We just need
> to get a few things resolved.
>
> Complete Coachworks is doing a great job and hopefully will get this
> resolved.
>
> I would like to know if this problem exists with all the 450s. Most owners
> are not on any
> forums.
>
> One thing I would like to ad is --anyone owning a coach with a C13 CAT
> engine should
> check in with a warranty station, or call the CAT RV hotline from their
web
> page and make
> sure their motor has all the current updates. Mine needed 4 and a dipstick
> calibration.
> The motor was being over filled by 2 quarts of oil. All 450 owners need to
> get to a
> warranty station and have their engine checked out.
>
> thanks for the inquiry
> Dan
> 2005 4540Lxi
> San MArcos, CA
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "JERRY SMITH" <medpro@> wrote:
> >
> > Dan, curious as to what type problems you have been having, since I have
a
> > 2005 LXI?
> >
> > Jerry Smith
> > 2005 450 LXI
> > Sarasota, Fl.
> >
> > -------Original Message-------
> >
> > From: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: 12/22/07 10:46:08
> > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] 450lxi owners
> >
> > All owners of 450Lxi Bluebirds that monitor this board, lets get some
> > inherent issues with
> > our buses resolved. I personally want to get a contact list of as many
> > owners together, so
> > we can find solutions to thes issues and resolve the problems.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Dan
> > 05 450Lxi
> > San Marcos, CA
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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