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04-16-2006, 03:59
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35 FC Transmissions
Does anyone know if they ever put the 5 or 6 speed overdrive
transmission in the 35 FC? If so, what year did they start? I've zeroed in on the 35FC as the correct Bird for my wife and I, however, I really hesitate buying one that gets such poor fuel mileage as the 4 speed Allison. John & Pat - Wantabee's, Stuart |
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04-16-2006, 04:29
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35 FC Transmissions
The 87,88,89 FC's have a 5 speed ZF tranmission with internal
retarder. We really like this combination with the 300 HP turbo, We get about 8 MPG. These years are rare, the last of the FC's. Like Dinosaurs, they do not make them anymore. Be prepared to pay more for these years, But well worth the extra cash. Bill 88 FC Michigan --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "sailingmyway" > > Does anyone know if they ever put the 5 or 6 speed overdrive > transmission in the 35 FC? If so, what year did they start? I've > zeroed in on the 35FC as the correct Bird for my wife and I, however, I > really hesitate buying one that gets such poor fuel mileage as the 4 > speed Allison. John & Pat - Wantabee's, Stuart > |
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04-16-2006, 10:13
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35 FC Transmissions
---Do not overlook the 300hp SP....made 1989-1992.....don't make
them anymore and they drive like a dream with the 300turbo in the rear! Factory rep says not many come back for maintenance for all the birds he sees. lol Hank Hannigan.....selling a 1990SP so could be biased! 1990SP36 (stored in Vegas for now) In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "pattypape" wrote: > > > The 87,88,89 FC's have a 5 speed ZF tranmission with internal > retarder. > > We really like this combination with the 300 HP turbo, > We get about 8 MPG. > > These years are rare, the last of the FC's. Like Dinosaurs, > they do not make them anymore. Be prepared to pay more for these > years, But well worth the extra cash. > > Bill 88 FC Michigan > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "sailingmyway" > > > > > Does anyone know if they ever put the 5 or 6 speed overdrive > > transmission in the 35 FC? If so, what year did they start? I've > > zeroed in on the 35FC as the correct Bird for my wife and I, > however, I > > really hesitate buying one that gets such poor fuel mileage as the > 4 > > speed Allison. John & Pat - Wantabee's, Stuart > > > |
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04-16-2006, 13:55
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35 FC Transmissions
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "sailingmyway"
>i hear storys from 7-10 mpg on the fcs with the 4 speed tranny,now,thats not bad milage as i see it! randy dupree > Does anyone know if they ever put the 5 or 6 speed overdrive > transmission in the 35 FC? If so, what year did they start? I've > zeroed in on the 35FC as the correct Bird for my wife and I, however, I > really hesitate buying one that gets such poor fuel mileage as the 4 > speed Allison. John & Pat - Wantabee's, Stuart > |
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04-16-2006, 14:58
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35 FC Transmissions
I doubt very much if you will find an 87-89 FC that will even get
close to the fuel mileage of the 1982 FC/31/33/35 coaches. I believe the 4th gear is the same as the 5th or 6th gear in the 87-89. Tom Warner Vernon Center,NY 1982 FC35 ( for sale at http://s69.photobucket.com/albums/i57/warbucks13477/ ) 1985 PT 40 At 09:55 PM 4/16/2006, you wrote: >--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "sailingmyway" > > >i hear storys from 7-10 mpg on the fcs with the 4 speed >tranny,now,thats not bad milage as i see it! >randy dupree > > Does anyone know if they ever put the 5 or 6 speed overdrive > > transmission in the 35 FC? If so, what year did they start? I've > > zeroed in on the 35FC as the correct Bird for my wife and I, >however, I > > really hesitate buying one that gets such poor fuel mileage as the 4 > > speed Allison. John & Pat - Wantabee's, Stuart > > > > > > > > >SPONSORED LINKS ><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Recr...;vehi\ cles&w2=Wanderlodge&w3=Automotive+maintenance&w4=Recreational+vehicle+dealer&w5=\ Used+recreational+vehicles&w6=Automotive+radiators&c=6&s=163&.sig=DAUkCKkU7Dzhn_\ ObWmSYTw>Recreational >vehicles ><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Wand...w2=Wa\ nderlodge&w3=Automotive+maintenance&w4=Recreational+vehicle+dealer&w5=Used+recre\ ational+vehicles&w6=Automotive+radiators&c=6&s=163&.sig=Z-8HJdysB3QLPj9U0JvqYQ>W\ anderlodge ><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Auto...3;veh\ icles&w2=Wanderlodge&w3=Automotive+maintenance&w4=Recreational+vehicle+dealer&w5\ =Used+recreational+vehicles&w6=Automotive+radiators&c=6&s=163&.sig=IF4u_5wI8Pmy3\ 4cC1O9CxA>Automotive >maintenance ><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Recr...tiona\ l+vehicles&w2=Wanderlodge&w3=Automotive+maintenance&w4=Recreational+vehicle+deal\ er&w5=Used+recreational+vehicles&w6=Automotive+radiators&c=6&s=163&.sig=z6_Xahae\ YHfELr6o72IW1A>Recreational >vehicle dealer ><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Used...ional\ +vehicles&w2=Wanderlodge&w3=Automotive+maintenance&w4=Recreational+vehicle+deale\ r&w5=Used+recreational+vehicles&w6=Automotive+radiators&c=6&s=163&.sig=UGEY5km4L\ -kXbDI4ZSadEw>Used >recreational vehicles ><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Auto...vehic\ les&w2=Wanderlodge&w3=Automotive+maintenance&w4=Recreational+vehicle+dealer&w5=U\ sed+recreational+vehicles&w6=Automotive+radiators&c=6&s=163&.sig=ePNVMmISsCWgTnM\ q_4GlXA>Automotive >radiators > > >---------- >YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > * Visit your group > "<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WanderlodgeForum>WanderlodgeForum" on the web. > * > * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > * > odgeForum-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > * > * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the > <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > >---------- |
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04-17-2006, 02:26
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35 FC Transmissions
That's nuts. Turbo charging and charge air coolers are methods to improve the
efficiency of diesel engines. The 5 speed OD trans keeps engine speed down and increased horse power improves the power to weight ratio over the older NA/643 speed bumps. Most 87up FCs have two airs and the smaller lighter gen set, handling and acceleration are greatly enhanced. There is no way a NA gets better mileage than a turbo, level playing field. I drove Millers 88 FC a while back and it was a night and day diffference compared to my well tuned 250 hp 83 rear bath. Engine speed is the major issue when considering improving milage. Turbo/charge air cooled engines can tolerate 400 rpm lower rpm at full throttle and don't need to go over 2500 rpm for max power. NAs need to spin faster due to the lack of forced induction and need more fuel to facilitate that. Now I could be over looking something, so if you have some REAL experience that might lend some credibility to your aurgument I'm listening Warner. I'm interested in miles you have driven your NA, average speed, speed on grades, that sort of thing. I assume you have taken some trips, so lets hear what you have really seen for fuel use. Those considering your FC might want to know. Mike Hohnstein ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Warner To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 9:58 PM Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: 35 FC Transmissions I doubt very much if you will find an 87-89 FC that will even get close to the fuel mileage of the 1982 FC/31/33/35 coaches. I believe the 4th gear is the same as the 5th or 6th gear in the 87-89. Tom Warner Vernon Center,NY 1982 FC35 ( for sale at http://s69.photobucket.com/albums/i57/warbucks13477/ ) 1985 PT 40 At 09:55 PM 4/16/2006, you wrote: >--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "sailingmyway" > > >i hear storys from 7-10 mpg on the fcs with the 4 speed >tranny,now,thats not bad milage as i see it! >randy dupree > > Does anyone know if they ever put the 5 or 6 speed overdrive > > transmission in the 35 FC? If so, what year did they start? I've > > zeroed in on the 35FC as the correct Bird for my wife and I, >however, I > > really hesitate buying one that gets such poor fuel mileage as the 4 > > speed Allison. John & Pat - Wantabee's, Stuart > > > > > > > > >SPONSORED LINKS ><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Recr...;vehi\ cles&w2=Wanderlodge&w3=Automotive+maintenance&w4=Recreational+vehicle+dealer&w5=\ Used+recreational+vehicles&w6=Automotive+radiators&c=6&s=163&.sig=DAUkCKkU7Dzhn_\ ObWmSYTw>Recreational >vehicles ><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Wand...w2=Wa\ nderlodge&w3=Automotive+maintenance&w4=Recreational+vehicle+dealer&w5=Used+recre\ ational+vehicles&w6=Automotive+radiators&c=6&s=163&.sig=Z-8HJdysB3QLPj9U0JvqYQ>W\ anderlodge ><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Auto...3;veh\ icles&w2=Wanderlodge&w3=Automotive+maintenance&w4=Recreational+vehicle+dealer&w5\ =Used+recreational+vehicles&w6=Automotive+radiators&c=6&s=163&.sig=IF4u_5wI8Pmy3\ 4cC1O9CxA>Automotive >maintenance ><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Recr...tiona\ l+vehicles&w2=Wanderlodge&w3=Automotive+maintenance&w4=Recreational+vehicle+deal\ er&w5=Used+recreational+vehicles&w6=Automotive+radiators&c=6&s=163&.sig=z6_Xahae\ YHfELr6o72IW1A>Recreational >vehicle dealer ><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Used...ional\ +vehicles&w2=Wanderlodge&w3=Automotive+maintenance&w4=Recreational+vehicle+deale\ r&w5=Used+recreational+vehicles&w6=Automotive+radiators&c=6&s=163&.sig=UGEY5km4L\ -kXbDI4ZSadEw>Used >recreational vehicles ><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Auto...vehic\ les&w2=Wanderlodge&w3=Automotive+maintenance&w4=Recreational+vehicle+dealer&w5=U\ sed+recreational+vehicles&w6=Automotive+radiators&c=6&s=163&.sig=ePNVMmISsCWgTnM\ q_4GlXA>Automotive >radiators > > >---------- >YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > * Visit your group > "<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WanderlodgeForum>WanderlodgeForum" on the web. > * > * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > * > odgeForum-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > * > * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the > <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > >---------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "WanderlodgeForum" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: WanderlodgeForum-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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04-17-2006, 13:06
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35 FC Transmissions
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Tom Warner
wrote: >the 90 sp i have got 8mpg on the trip home with it,650 miles.thats a 300 hp 3208,the charge air cooler helps milage quite a bit. randy > I doubt very much if you will find an 87-89 FC that will even get > close to the fuel mileage of the 1982 FC/31/33/35 coaches. I believe > the 4th gear is the same as the 5th or 6th gear in the 87-89. > > Tom Warner > Vernon Center,NY > 1982 FC35 ( for sale at http://s69.photobucket.com/albums/i57/warbucks13477/ ) > 1985 PT 40 > > > At 09:55 PM 4/16/2006, you wrote: > >--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "sailingmyway" > > > > >i hear storys from 7-10 mpg on the fcs with the 4 speed > >tranny,now,thats not bad milage as i see it! > >randy dupree > > > Does anyone know if they ever put the 5 or 6 speed overdrive > > > transmission in the 35 FC? If so, what year did they start? I've > > > zeroed in on the 35FC as the correct Bird for my wife and I, > >however, I > > > really hesitate buying one that gets such poor fuel mileage as the 4 > > > speed Allison. John & Pat - Wantabee's, Stuart > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >SPONSORED LINKS > ><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=ms&k=Recreational+vehicles&w1=Recreational+vehicles&w2=Wanderlodge& w3=Automotive+maintenance&w4=Recreational+vehicle+dealer&w5=Used+recr eational+vehicles&w6=Automotive+radiators&c=6&s=163&.sig=DAUkCKkU7Dzh n_ObWmSYTw>Recreational > >vehicles > ><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=ms&k=Wanderlodge&w1=Recreational+vehicles&w2=Wanderlodge&w3=Automot ive+maintenance&w4=Recreational+vehicle+dealer&w5=Used+recreational+v ehicles&w6=Automotive+radiators&c=6&s=163&.sig=Z- 8HJdysB3QLPj9U0JvqYQ>Wanderlodge > ><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=ms&k=Automotive+maintenance&w1=Recreational+vehicles&w2=Wanderlodge &w3=Automotive+maintenance&w4=Recreational+vehicle+dealer&w5=Used+rec reational+vehicles&w6=Automotive+radiators&c=6&s=163&.sig=IF4u_5wI8Pm y34cC1O9CxA>Automotive > >maintenance > ><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=ms&k=Recreational+vehicle+dealer&w1=Recreational+vehicles&w2=Wander lodge&w3=Automotive+maintenance&w4=Recreational+vehicle+dealer&w5=Use d+recreational+vehicles&w6=Automotive+radiators&c=6&s=163&.sig=z6_Xah aeYHfELr6o72IW1A>Recreational > >vehicle dealer > ><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=ms&k=Used+recreational+vehicles&w1=Recreational+vehicles&w2=Wanderl odge&w3=Automotive+maintenance&w4=Recreational+vehicle+dealer&w5=Used +recreational+vehicles&w6=Automotive+radiators&c=6&s=163&.sig=UGEY5km 4L-kXbDI4ZSadEw>Used > >recreational vehicles > ><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=ms&k=Automotive+radiators&w1=Recreational+vehicles&w2=Wanderlodge&w 3=Automotive+maintenance&w4=Recreational+vehicle+dealer&w5=Used+recre ational+vehicles&w6=Automotive+radiators&c=6&s=163&.sig=ePNVMmISsCWgT nMq_4GlXA>Automotive > >radiators > > > > > >---------- > >YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > * Visit your group > > "<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WanderlodgeForum>WanderlodgeForum" on the web. > > * > > * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > * > > > > > > * > > * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the > > <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > > > >---------- > |
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04-17-2006, 13:55
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35 FC Transmissions
---Mike:
That's nuts!!! My 77FC33 with the CAT 210NA got 8-9mpg consistently while my 90SP36 gets only 6-7mpg!!! That's a true staement and NOT nuts! Regards, Hank Hannigan 1990SP36 In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Hohnstein" <MHOHNSTEIN@...> wrote: > > That's nuts. Turbo charging and charge air coolers are methods to improve the efficiency of diesel engines. The 5 speed OD trans keeps engine speed down and increased horse power improves the power to weight ratio over the older NA/643 speed bumps. Most 87up FCs have two airs and the smaller lighter gen set, handling and acceleration are greatly enhanced. There is no way a NA gets better mileage than a turbo, level playing field. > I drove Millers 88 FC a while back and it was a night and day diffference compared to my well tuned 250 hp 83 rear bath. > Engine speed is the major issue when considering improving milage. > Turbo/charge air cooled engines can tolerate 400 rpm lower rpm at full throttle and don't need to go over 2500 rpm for max power. NAs need to spin faster due to the lack of forced induction and need more fuel to facilitate that. > Now I could be over looking something, so if you have some REAL experience that might lend some credibility to your aurgument I'm listening Warner. I'm interested in miles you have driven your NA, average speed, speed on grades, that sort of thing. I assume you have taken some trips, so lets hear what you have really seen for fuel use. Those considering your FC might want to know. > Mike Hohnstein > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Tom Warner > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 9:58 PM > Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: 35 FC Transmissions > > > I doubt very much if you will find an 87-89 FC that will even get > close to the fuel mileage of the 1982 FC/31/33/35 coaches. I believe > the 4th gear is the same as the 5th or 6th gear in the 87-89. > > Tom Warner > Vernon Center,NY > 1982 FC35 ( for sale at http://s69.photobucket.com/albums/i57/warbucks13477/ ) > 1985 PT 40 > > > At 09:55 PM 4/16/2006, you wrote: > >--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "sailingmyway" > > > > >i hear storys from 7-10 mpg on the fcs with the 4 speed > >tranny,now,thats not bad milage as i see it! > >randy dupree > > > Does anyone know if they ever put the 5 or 6 speed overdrive > > > transmission in the 35 FC? If so, what year did they start? I've > > > zeroed in on the 35FC as the correct Bird for my wife and I, > >however, I > > > really hesitate buying one that gets such poor fuel mileage as the 4 > > > speed Allison. John & Pat - Wantabee's, Stuart > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >SPONSORED LINKS > ><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=ms&k=Recreational+vehicles&w1=Recreational+vehicles&w2=Wanderlodge& w3=Automotive+maintenance&w4=Recreational+vehicle+dealer&w5=Used+recr eational+vehicles&w6=Automotive+radiators&c=6&s=163&.sig=DAUkCKkU7Dzh n_ObWmSYTw>Recreational > >vehicles > ><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=ms&k=Wanderlodge&w1=Recreational+vehicles&w2=Wanderlodge&w3=Automot ive+maintenance&w4=Recreational+vehicle+dealer&w5=Used+recreational+v ehicles&w6=Automotive+radiators&c=6&s=163&.sig=Z- 8HJdysB3QLPj9U0JvqYQ>Wanderlodge > ><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=ms&k=Automotive+maintenance&w1=Recreational+vehicles&w2=Wanderlodge &w3=Automotive+maintenance&w4=Recreational+vehicle+dealer&w5=Used+rec reational+vehicles&w6=Automotive+radiators&c=6&s=163&.sig=IF4u_5wI8Pm y34cC1O9CxA>Automotive > >maintenance > ><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=ms&k=Recreational+vehicle+dealer&w1=Recreational+vehicles&w2=Wander lodge&w3=Automotive+maintenance&w4=Recreational+vehicle+dealer&w5=Use d+recreational+vehicles&w6=Automotive+radiators&c=6&s=163&.sig=z6_Xah aeYHfELr6o72IW1A>Recreational > >vehicle dealer > ><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=ms&k=Used+recreational+vehicles&w1=Recreational+vehicles&w2=Wanderl odge&w3=Automotive+maintenance&w4=Recreational+vehicle+dealer&w5=Used +recreational+vehicles&w6=Automotive+radiators&c=6&s=163&.sig=UGEY5km 4L-kXbDI4ZSadEw>Used > >recreational vehicles > ><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=ms&k=Automotive+radiators&w1=Recreational+vehicles&w2=Wanderlodge&w 3=Automotive+maintenance&w4=Recreational+vehicle+dealer&w5=Used+recre ational+vehicles&w6=Automotive+radiators&c=6&s=163&.sig=ePNVMmISsCWgT nMq_4GlXA>Automotive > >radiators > > > > > >---------- > >YAHOO! 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04-17-2006, 14:45
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And I said level playing field. You want to talk about weight difference? How
about speed? You are comparing apples to oranges and that IS nuts. NAs are nasty smoky obsolete and over the hill, at best. A diesel with out a turbo isn't good not good at all. MH ----- Original Message ----- From: Henry Jay Hannigan To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 17, 2006 8:55 PM Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: 35 FC Transmissions ---Mike: That's nuts!!! My 77FC33 with the CAT 210NA got 8-9mpg consistently while my 90SP36 gets only 6-7mpg!!! That's a true staement and NOT nuts! Regards, Hank Hannigan 1990SP36 In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Hohnstein" <MHOHNSTEIN@...> wrote: > > That's nuts. Turbo charging and charge air coolers are methods to improve the efficiency of diesel engines. The 5 speed OD trans keeps engine speed down and increased horse power improves the power to weight ratio over the older NA/643 speed bumps. Most 87up FCs have two airs and the smaller lighter gen set, handling and acceleration are greatly enhanced. There is no way a NA gets better mileage than a turbo, level playing field. > I drove Millers 88 FC a while back and it was a night and day diffference compared to my well tuned 250 hp 83 rear bath. > Engine speed is the major issue when considering improving milage. > Turbo/charge air cooled engines can tolerate 400 rpm lower rpm at full throttle and don't need to go over 2500 rpm for max power. NAs need to spin faster due to the lack of forced induction and need more fuel to facilitate that. > Now I could be over looking something, so if you have some REAL experience that might lend some credibility to your aurgument I'm listening Warner. I'm interested in miles you have driven your NA, average speed, speed on grades, that sort of thing. I assume you have taken some trips, so lets hear what you have really seen for fuel use. Those considering your FC might want to know. > Mike Hohnstein > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Tom Warner > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 9:58 PM > Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: 35 FC Transmissions > > > I doubt very much if you will find an 87-89 FC that will even get > close to the fuel mileage of the 1982 FC/31/33/35 coaches. I believe > the 4th gear is the same as the 5th or 6th gear in the 87-89. > > Tom Warner > Vernon Center,NY > 1982 FC35 ( for sale at http://s69.photobucket.com/albums/i57/warbucks13477/ ) > 1985 PT 40 > > > At 09:55 PM 4/16/2006, you wrote: > >--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "sailingmyway" > > > > >i hear storys from 7-10 mpg on the fcs with the 4 speed > >tranny,now,thats not bad milage as i see it! > >randy dupree > > > Does anyone know if they ever put the 5 or 6 speed overdrive > > > transmission in the 35 FC? If so, what year did they start? I've > > > zeroed in on the 35FC as the correct Bird for my wife and I, > >however, I > > > really hesitate buying one that gets such poor fuel mileage as the 4 > > > speed Allison. John & Pat - Wantabee's, Stuart > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >SPONSORED LINKS > ><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=ms&k=Recreational+vehicles&w1=Recreational+vehicles&w2=Wanderlodge& w3=Automotive+maintenance&w4=Recreational+vehicle+dealer&w5=Used+recr eational+vehicles&w6=Automotive+radiators&c=6&s=163&.sig=DAUkCKkU7Dzh n_ObWmSYTw>Recreational > >vehicles > ><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=ms&k=Wanderlodge&w1=Recreational+vehicles&w2=Wanderlodge&w3=Automot ive+maintenance&w4=Recreational+vehicle+dealer&w5=Used+recreational+v ehicles&w6=Automotive+radiators&c=6&s=163&.sig=Z- 8HJdysB3QLPj9U0JvqYQ>Wanderlodge > ><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=ms&k=Automotive+maintenance&w1=Recreational+vehicles&w2=Wanderlodge &w3=Automotive+maintenance&w4=Recreational+vehicle+dealer&w5=Used+rec reational+vehicles&w6=Automotive+radiators&c=6&s=163&.sig=IF4u_5wI8Pm y34cC1O9CxA>Automotive > >maintenance > ><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=ms&k=Recreational+vehicle+dealer&w1=Recreational+vehicles&w2=Wander lodge&w3=Automotive+maintenance&w4=Recreational+vehicle+dealer&w5=Use d+recreational+vehicles&w6=Automotive+radiators&c=6&s=163&.sig=z6_Xah aeYHfELr6o72IW1A>Recreational > >vehicle dealer > ><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=ms&k=Used+recreational+vehicles&w1=Recreational+vehicles&w2=Wanderl odge&w3=Automotive+maintenance&w4=Recreational+vehicle+dealer&w5=Used +recreational+vehicles&w6=Automotive+radiators&c=6&s=163&.sig=UGEY5km 4L-kXbDI4ZSadEw>Used > >recreational vehicles > ><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=ms&k=Automotive+radiators&w1=Recreational+vehicles&w2=Wanderlodge&w 3=Automotive+maintenance&w4=Recreational+vehicle+dealer&w5=Used+recre ational+vehicles&w6=Automotive+radiators&c=6&s=163&.sig=ePNVMmISsCWgT nMq_4GlXA>Automotive > >radiators > > > > > >---------- > >YAHOO! 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35 FC Transmissions
Hank thats about what I am getting with my 1982 FC35 with the Cat
3208NA. People forget that turbo chargers and intercoolers do not make an engine more efficient they allow a denser fuel/air charge to be pumped into the cylinder. More fuel pumped into the cylinder means more fuel used. A horsepower increase from 210HP to 300HP in the same engine can only be realized thru the use of more fuel. There is no magic involved. Tom Warner Vernon Center,NY 1982 FC35 (for sale http://tinyurl.com/lotbdcan ) 1985 PT40 At 09:55 PM 4/17/2006, you wrote: >---Mike: >That's nuts!!! My 77FC33 with the CAT 210NA got 8-9mpg >consistently while my 90SP36 gets only 6-7mpg!!! That's a true >staement and NOT nuts! >Regards, >Hank Hannigan >1990SP36 > > > > > >In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Hohnstein" ><MHOHNSTEIN@...> wrote: > > > > That's nuts. Turbo charging and charge air coolers are methods to >improve the efficiency of diesel engines. The 5 speed OD trans >keeps engine speed down and increased horse power improves the power >to weight ratio over the older NA/643 speed bumps. Most 87up FCs >have two airs and the smaller lighter gen set, handling and >acceleration are greatly enhanced. There is no way a NA gets better >mileage than a turbo, level playing field. > > I drove Millers 88 FC a while back and it was a night and day >diffference compared to my well tuned 250 hp 83 rear bath. > > Engine speed is the major issue when considering improving >milage. > > Turbo/charge air cooled engines can tolerate 400 rpm lower rpm at >full throttle and don't need to go over 2500 rpm for max power. NAs >need to spin faster due to the lack of forced induction and need >more fuel to facilitate that. > > Now I could be over looking something, so if you have some REAL >experience that might lend some credibility to your aurgument I'm >listening Warner. I'm interested in miles you have driven your NA, >average speed, speed on grades, that sort of thing. I assume you >have taken some trips, so lets hear what you have really seen for >fuel use. Those considering your FC might want to know. > > Mike Hohnstein > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Tom Warner > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 9:58 PM > > Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: 35 FC Transmissions > > > > > > I doubt very much if you will find an 87-89 FC that will even >get > > close to the fuel mileage of the 1982 FC/31/33/35 coaches. I >believe > > the 4th gear is the same as the 5th or 6th gear in the 87-89. > > > > Tom Warner > > Vernon Center,NY > > 1982 FC35 ( for sale at ><http://s69.photobucket.com/albums/i57/warbucks13477/>http://s69.photobucket.co\ m/albums/i57/warbucks13477/ >) > > 1985 PT 40 > > > > > > At 09:55 PM 4/16/2006, you wrote: > > >--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "sailingmyway" > > > > > > >i hear storys from 7-10 mpg on the fcs with the 4 speed > > >tranny,now,thats not bad milage as i see it! > > >randy dupree > > > > Does anyone know if they ever put the 5 or 6 speed overdrive > > > > transmission in the 35 FC? If so, what year did they >start? I've > > > > zeroed in on the 35FC as the correct Bird for my wife and I, > > >however, I > > > > really hesitate buying one that gets such poor fuel mileage >as the 4 > > > > speed Allison. John & Pat - Wantabee's, Stuart > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >SPONSORED LINKS > > ><<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?>http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? >t=ms&k=Recreational+vehicles&w1=Recreational+vehicles&w2=Wanderlodge& >w3=Automotive+maintenance&w4=Recreational+vehicle+dealer&w5=Used+recr >eational+vehicles&w6=Automotive+radiators&c=6&s=163&.sig=DAUkCKkU7Dzh >n_ObWmSYTw>Recreational > > >vehicles > > ><<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?>http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? >t=ms&k=Wanderlodge&w1=Recreational+vehicles&w2=Wanderlodge&w3=Automot >ive+maintenance&w4=Recreational+vehicle+dealer&w5=Used+recreational+v >ehicles&w6=Automotive+radiators&c=6&s=163&.sig=Z- >8HJdysB3QLPj9U0JvqYQ>Wanderlodge > > ><<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?>http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? >t=ms&k=Automotive+maintenance&w1=Recreational+vehicles&w2=Wanderlodge >&w3=Automotive+maintenance&w4=Recreational+vehicle+dealer&w5=Used+rec >reational+vehicles&w6=Automotive+radiators&c=6&s=163&.sig=IF4u_5wI8Pm >y34cC1O9CxA>Automotive > > >maintenance > > ><<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?>http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? >t=ms&k=Recreational+vehicle+dealer&w1=Recreational+vehicles&w2=Wander >lodge&w3=Automotive+maintenance&w4=Recreational+vehicle+dealer&w5=Use >d+recreational+vehicles&w6=Automotive+radiators&c=6&s=163&.sig=z6_Xah >aeYHfELr6o72IW1A>Recreational > > >vehicle dealer > > ><<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?>http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? >t=ms&k=Used+recreational+vehicles&w1=Recreational+vehicles&w2=Wanderl >odge&w3=Automotive+maintenance&w4=Recreational+vehicle+dealer&w5=Used >+recreational+vehicles&w6=Automotive+radiators&c=6&s=163&.sig=UGEY5km >4L-kXbDI4ZSadEw>Used > > >recreational vehicles > > ><<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?>http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? >t=ms&k=Automotive+radiators&w1=Recreational+vehicles&w2=Wanderlodge&w >3=Automotive+maintenance&w4=Recreational+vehicle+dealer&w5=Used+recre >ational+vehicles&w6=Automotive+radiators&c=6&s=163&.sig=ePNVMmISsCWgT >nMq_4GlXA>Automotive > > >radiators > > > > > > > > >---------- > > >YAHOO! 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