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04-15-2006, 12:57
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Hi electricians, My iota charger had an unfortunate encounter with a
welding outlet and I am in the market for a new one. One thing leads to another and I am now looking at running the front A/C off an inverter for those minor cooling days without the generator. Then I looked at the currents and now am considering going to and LN 24v alternator(maybe 130A at 24V) and an outback VFX3524M inverter. It looks to me like I could hook the inverter to one of the 30 amp legs and put the inverter loads there and that way the existing selector switch would still work as isolation for the 50 amp and gen use? I have read through the writeup by http://ourodyssey.blogspot.com/ but I don't want THAT much automation. I think the 24v bus would be an asset for a future solar addition also. Any thoughts on 24V? Lee Benson, 85FC35, Carthage, IN |
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04-16-2006, 00:43
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Lee, the Outback's are the best in the business and I sell all types.
Blair in Oregon At 05:57 PM 4/15/2006, you wrote: >Hi electricians, My iota charger had an unfortunate encounter with a >welding outlet and I am in the market for a new one. One thing leads >to another and I am now looking at running the front A/C off an >inverter for those minor cooling days without the generator. Then I >looked at the currents and now am considering going to and LN 24v >alternator(maybe 130A at 24V) and an outback VFX3524M inverter. It >looks to me like I could hook the inverter to one of the 30 amp legs >and put the inverter loads there and that way the existing selector >switch would still work as isolation for the 50 amp and gen use? > >I have read through the writeup by ><http://ourodyssey.blogspot.com/>http://ourodyssey.blogspot.com/ but >I don't want THAT much automation. I think the 24v bus would be an >asset for a future solar addition also. > >Any thoughts on 24V? > >Lee Benson, 85FC35, Carthage, IN > > > > > >SPONSORED LINKS ><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Recr...;vehi\ cles&w2=Wanderlodge&w3=Automotive+maintenance&w4=Recreational+vehicle+dealer&w5=\ Used+recreational+vehicles&w6=Automotive+radiators&c=6&s=163&.sig=DAUkCKkU7Dzhn_\ ObWmSYTw>Recreational >vehicles ><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Wand...w2=Wa\ nderlodge&w3=Automotive+maintenance&w4=Recreational+vehicle+dealer&w5=Used+recre\ ational+vehicles&w6=Automotive+radiators&c=6&s=163&.sig=Z-8HJdysB3QLPj9U0JvqYQ>W\ anderlodge ><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Auto...3;veh\ icles&w2=Wanderlodge&w3=Automotive+maintenance&w4=Recreational+vehicle+dealer&w5\ =Used+recreational+vehicles&w6=Automotive+radiators&c=6&s=163&.sig=IF4u_5wI8Pmy3\ 4cC1O9CxA>Automotive >maintenance ><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Recr...tiona\ l+vehicles&w2=Wanderlodge&w3=Automotive+maintenance&w4=Recreational+vehicle+deal\ er&w5=Used+recreational+vehicles&w6=Automotive+radiators&c=6&s=163&.sig=z6_Xahae\ YHfELr6o72IW1A>Recreational >vehicle dealer ><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Used...ional\ +vehicles&w2=Wanderlodge&w3=Automotive+maintenance&w4=Recreational+vehicle+deale\ r&w5=Used+recreational+vehicles&w6=Automotive+radiators&c=6&s=163&.sig=UGEY5km4L\ -kXbDI4ZSadEw>Used >recreational vehicles ><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Auto...vehic\ les&w2=Wanderlodge&w3=Automotive+maintenance&w4=Recreational+vehicle+dealer&w5=U\ sed+recreational+vehicles&w6=Automotive+radiators&c=6&s=163&.sig=ePNVMmISsCWgTnM\ q_4GlXA>Automotive >radiators > > >---------- >YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > * Visit your group > "<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WanderlodgeForum>WanderlodgeForum" on the web. > * > * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > * > odgeForum-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > * > * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the > <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > >---------- [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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04-16-2006, 13:51
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Blair: could you run the fron ta/c off the inverter by tapping into the correct
leg? seems that would work better than having the dash a/c repaired and converted from 12 to 134 re brake FC-35SB albany, ga. "sagecoach" -------------- Original message from Blair -------------- Lee, the Outback's are the best in the business and I sell all types. Blair in Oregon At 05:57 PM 4/15/2006, you wrote: >Hi electricians, My iota charger had an unfortunate encounter with a >welding outlet and I am in the market for a new one. One thing leads >to another and I am now looking at running the front A/C off an >inverter for those minor cooling days without the generator. Then I >looked at the currents and now am considering going to and LN 24v >alternator(maybe 130A at 24V) and an outback VFX3524M inverter. It >looks to me like I could hook the inverter to one of the 30 amp legs >and put the inverter loads there and that way the existing selector >switch would still work as isolation for the 50 amp and gen use? > >I have read through the writeup by ><http://ourodyssey.blogspot.com/>http://ourodyssey.blogspot.com/ but >I don't want THAT much automation. I think the 24v bus would be an >asset for a future solar addition also. > >Any thoughts on 24V? > >Lee Benson, 85FC35, Carthage, IN > > > > > >SPONSORED LINKS ><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Recr...;vehi\ cles&w2=Wanderlodge&w3=Automotive+maintenance&w4=Recreational+vehicle+dealer&w5=\ Used+recreational+vehicles&w6=Automotive+radiators&c=6&s=163&.sig=DAUkCKkU7Dzhn_\ ObWmSYTw>Recreational >vehicles ><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Wand...w2=Wa\ nderlodge&w3=Automotive+maintenance&w4=Recreational+vehicle+dealer&w5=Used+recre\ ational+vehicles&w6=Automotive+radiators&c=6&s=163&.sig=Z-8HJdysB3QLPj9U0JvqYQ>W\ anderlodge ><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Auto...3;veh\ icles&w2=Wanderlodge&w3=Automotive+maintenance&w4=Recreational+vehicle+dealer&w5\ =Used+recreational+vehicles&w6=Automotive+radiators&c=6&s=163&.sig=IF4u_5wI8Pmy3\ 4cC1O9CxA>Automotive >maintenance ><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Recr...tiona\ l+vehicles&w2=Wanderlodge&w3=Automotive+maintenance&w4=Recreational+vehicle+deal\ er&w5=Used+recreational+vehicles&w6=Automotive+radiators&c=6&s=163&.sig=z6_Xahae\ YHfELr6o72IW1A>Recreational >vehicle dealer ><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Used...ional\ +vehicles&w2=Wanderlodge&w3=Automotive+maintenance&w4=Recreational+vehicle+deale\ r&w5=Used+recreational+vehicles&w6=Automotive+radiators&c=6&s=163&.sig=UGEY5km4L\ -kXbDI4ZSadEw>Used >recreational vehicles ><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Auto...vehic\ les&w2=Wanderlodge&w3=Automotive+maintenance&w4=Recreational+vehicle+dealer&w5=U\ sed+recreational+vehicles&w6=Automotive+radiators&c=6&s=163&.sig=ePNVMmISsCWgTnM\ q_4GlXA>Automotive >radiators > > >---------- >YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > * Visit your group > "<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WanderlodgeForum>WanderlodgeForum" on the web. > * > * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > * > odgeForum-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > * > * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the > <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > >---------- [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "WanderlodgeForum" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: WanderlodgeForum-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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04-17-2006, 02:31
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Are you talking about the front roof air? You might be able to for a
short time; What's the draw? what's the start up surge draw? Blair in Oregon At 06:51 PM 4/16/2006, you wrote: >Blair: could you run the fron ta/c off the inverter by tapping into >the correct leg? seems that would work better than having the dash >a/c repaired and converted from 12 to 134 > >re brake FC-35SB albany, ga. "sagecoach" > >-------------- Original message from Blair >-------------- > > >Lee, the Outback's are the best in the business and I sell all types. >Blair in Oregon > > > >At 05:57 PM 4/15/2006, you wrote: > >Hi electricians, My iota charger had an unfortunate encounter with a > >welding outlet and I am in the market for a new one. One thing leads > >to another and I am now looking at running the front A/C off an > >inverter for those minor cooling days without the generator. Then I > >looked at the currents and now am considering going to and LN 24v > >alternator(maybe 130A at 24V) and an outback VFX3524M inverter. It > >looks to me like I could hook the inverter to one of the 30 amp legs > >and put the inverter loads there and that way the existing selector > >switch would still work as isolation for the 50 amp and gen use? > > > >I have read through the writeup by > ><<http://ourodyssey.blogspot.com/>http://ourodyssey.blogspot.com/>h > ttp://ourodyssey.blogspot.com/ but > >I don't want THAT much automation. I think the 24v bus would be an > >asset for a future solar addition also. > > > >Any thoughts on 24V? > > > >Lee Benson, 85FC35, Carthage, IN > > > > > > > > > > > >SPONSORED LINKS > ><<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Recreational+vehicles&w1=Recr > eational+vehicles&w2=Wanderlodge&w3=Automotive+maintenance&w4=Recreational+vehic\ le+dealer&w5=Used+recreational+vehicles&w6=Automotive+radiators&c=6&s=163&.sig=D\ AUkCKkU7Dzhn_ObWmSYTw>http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Recr...cles&\ w1=Recreational+vehicles&w2=Wanderlodge&w3=Automotive+maintenance&w4=Recreationa\ l+vehicle+dealer&w5=Used+recreational+vehicles&w6=Automotive+radiators&c=6&s=163\ &.sig=DAUkCKkU7Dzhn_ObWmSYTw>Recreational > > >vehicles > ><<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Wanderlodge&w1=Recreational+v > ehicles&w2=Wanderlodge&w3=Automotive+maintenance&w4=Recreational+vehicle+dealer&\ w5=Used+recreational+vehicles&w6=Automotive+radiators&c=6&s=163&.sig=Z-8HJdysB3Q\ LPj9U0JvqYQ>http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Wand...;vehi\ cles&w2=Wanderlodge&w3=Automotive+maintenance&w4=Recreational+vehicle+dealer&w5=\ Used+recreational+vehicles&w6=Automotive+radiators&c=6&s=163&.sig=Z-8HJdysB3QLPj\ 9U0JvqYQ>Wanderlodge > > ><<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Automotive+maintenance&w1=Rec > reational+vehicles&w2=Wanderlodge&w3=Automotive+maintenance&w4=Recreational+vehi\ cle+dealer&w5=Used+recreational+vehicles&w6=Automotive+radiators&c=6&s=163&.sig=\ IF4u_5wI8Pmy34cC1O9CxA>http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Auto...enanc\ e&w1=Recreational+vehicles&w2=Wanderlodge&w3=Automotive+maintenance&w4=Recreatio\ nal+vehicle+dealer&w5=Used+recreational+vehicles&w6=Automotive+radiators&c=6&s=1\ 63&.sig=IF4u_5wI8Pmy34cC1O9CxA>Automotive > > >maintenance > ><<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Recreational+vehicle+dealer&w > 1=Recreational+vehicles&w2=Wanderlodge&w3=Automotive+maintenance&w4=Recreational\ +vehicle+dealer&w5=Used+recreational+vehicles&w6=Automotive+radiators&c=6&s=163&\ .sig=z6_XahaeYHfELr6o72IW1A>http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Recreational+veh\ icle+dealer&w1=Recreational+vehicles&w2=Wanderlodge&w3=Automotive+maintenance&w4\ =Recreational+vehicle+dealer&w5=Used+recreational+vehicles&w6=Automotive+radiato\ rs&c=6&s=163&.sig=z6_XahaeYHfELr6o72IW1A>Recreational > > >vehicle dealer > ><<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Used+recreational+vehicles&w1 > =Recreational+vehicles&w2=Wanderlodge&w3=Automotive+maintenance&w4=Recreational+\ vehicle+dealer&w5=Used+recreational+vehicles&w6=Automotive+radiators&c=6&s=163&.\ sig=UGEY5km4L-kXbDI4ZSadEw>http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Used+recreational\ +vehicles&w1=Recreational+vehicles&w2=Wanderlodge&w3=Automotive+maintenance&w4=R\ ecreational+vehicle+dealer&w5=Used+recreational+vehicles&w6=Automotive+radiators\ &c=6&s=163&.sig=UGEY5km4L-kXbDI4ZSadEw>Used > > >recreational vehicles > ><<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Automotive+radiators&w1=Recre > ational+vehicles&w2=Wanderlodge&w3=Automotive+maintenance&w4=Recreational+vehicl\ e+dealer&w5=Used+recreational+vehicles&w6=Automotive+radiators&c=6&s=163&.sig=eP\ NVMmISsCWgTnMq_4GlXA>http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Auto...rs&w1\ =Recreational+vehicles&w2=Wanderlodge&w3=Automotive+maintenance&w4=Recreational+\ vehicle+dealer&w5=Used+recreational+vehicles&w6=Automotive+radiators&c=6&s=163&.\ sig=ePNVMmISsCWgTnMq_4GlXA>Automotive > > >radiators > > > > > >---------- > >YAHOO! 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04-17-2006, 04:24
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Perhaps I can help on this. On our converted coach, I built it so that I
could run one A/C from the inverter WHILE THE ENGINE WAS RUNNING. IOW, while going down the road. There was no way that I could install a battery bank large enough to run an A/C for very long. I had a 2500 watt inverter at that time. I found that I could run the A/C for about 30 minutes before it would overheat and shut down or pop the C/B. As for 24 VDC systems: We have friends who converted buses with 24 VDC systems and some kept the 24 VDC system and purchased the 24 VDC inverters. Others converted to 12 Volt systems. Those with dual systems mostly said that they would not do it again. 24V equipment is hard to find and expensive. Most of us have found that running the generator for A/C is the best overall method. After all, the generator needs to be used. The biggest problems with generators comes from lack of use. George Lowry '06 Alpine Apex - Formerly '95 WBDA 4203 spearfish, SD Now in soggy Stockton, CA -----Original Message----- From: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Blair Sent: Monday, April 17, 2006 7:31 AM To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] 24 Volt Are you talking about the front roof air? You might be able to for a short time; What's the draw? what's the start up surge draw? Blair in Oregon At 06:51 PM 4/16/2006, you wrote: >Blair: could you run the fron ta/c off the inverter by tapping into >the correct leg? seems that would work better than having the dash >a/c repaired and converted from 12 to 134 > >re brake FC-35SB albany, ga. "sagecoach" > >-------------- Original message from Blair >-------------- > > >Lee, the Outback's are the best in the business and I sell all types. >Blair in Oregon > > > >At 05:57 PM 4/15/2006, you wrote: > >Hi electricians, My iota charger had an unfortunate encounter with a > >welding outlet and I am in the market for a new one. One thing leads > >to another and I am now looking at running the front A/C off an > >inverter for those minor cooling days without the generator. Then I > >looked at the currents and now am considering going to and LN 24v > >alternator(maybe 130A at 24V) and an outback VFX3524M inverter. It > >looks to me like I could hook the inverter to one of the 30 amp legs > >and put the inverter loads there and that way the existing selector > >switch would still work as isolation for the 50 amp and gen use? > > > >I have read through the writeup by > ><<http://ourodyssey.blogspot.com/>http://ourodyssey.blogspot.com/>h > ttp://ourodyssey.blogspot.com/ but > >I don't want THAT much automation. I think the 24v bus would be an > >asset for a future solar addition also. > > > >Any thoughts on 24V? > > > >Lee Benson, 85FC35, Carthage, IN > > > > > > > > > > > >SPONSORED LINKS > ><<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Recreational+vehicles&w1=Recr > eational+vehicles&w2=Wanderlodge&w3=Automotive+maintenance&w4=Recreational+v ehicle+dealer&w5=Used+recreational+vehicles&w6=Automotive+radiators&c=6&s=16 3&.sig=DAUkCKkU7Dzhn_ObWmSYTw>http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Recreation al+vehicles&w1=Recreational+vehicles&w2=Wanderlodge&w3=Automotive+maintenanc e&w4=Recreational+vehicle+dealer&w5=Used+recreational+vehicles&w6=Automotive +radiators&c=6&s=163&.sig=DAUkCKkU7Dzhn_ObWmSYTw>Recreational > > >vehicles > ><<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Wanderlodge&w1=Recreational+v > ehicles&w2=Wanderlodge&w3=Automotive+maintenance&w4=Recreational+vehicle+dea ler&w5=Used+recreational+vehicles&w6=Automotive+radiators&c=6&s=163&.sig=Z-8 HJdysB3QLPj9U0JvqYQ>http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Wand...e&w1=Recre ational+vehicles&w2=Wanderlodge&w3=Automotive+maintenance&w4=Recreational+ve hicle+dealer&w5=Used+recreational+vehicles&w6=Automotive+radiators&c=6&s=163 &.sig=Z-8HJdysB3QLPj9U0JvqYQ>Wanderlodge > > ><<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Automotive+maintenance&w1=Rec > reational+vehicles&w2=Wanderlodge&w3=Automotive+maintenance&w4=Recreational+ vehicle+dealer&w5=Used+recreational+vehicles&w6=Automotive+radiators&c=6&s=1 63&.sig=IF4u_5wI8Pmy34cC1O9CxA>http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Automotiv e+maintenance&w1=Recreational+vehicles&w2=Wanderlodge&w3=Automotive+maintena nce&w4=Recreational+vehicle+dealer&w5=Used+recreational+vehicles&w6=Automoti ve+radiators&c=6&s=163&.sig=IF4u_5wI8Pmy34cC1O9CxA>Automotive > > >maintenance > ><<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Recreational+vehicle+dealer&w > 1=Recreational+vehicles&w2=Wanderlodge&w3=Automotive+maintenance&w4=Recreati onal+vehicle+dealer&w5=Used+recreational+vehicles&w6=Automotive+radiators&c= 6&s=163&.sig=z6_XahaeYHfELr6o72IW1A>http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Recr eational+vehicle+dealer&w1=Recreational+vehicles&w2=Wanderlodge&w3=Automotiv e+maintenance&w4=Recreational+vehicle+dealer&w5=Used+recreational+vehicles&w 6=Automotive+radiators&c=6&s=163&.sig=z6_XahaeYHfELr6o72IW1A>Recreational > > >vehicle dealer > ><<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Used+recreational+vehicles&w1 > =Recreational+vehicles&w2=Wanderlodge&w3=Automotive+maintenance&w4=Recreatio nal+vehicle+dealer&w5=Used+recreational+vehicles&w6=Automotive+radiators&c=6 &s=163&.sig=UGEY5km4L-kXbDI4ZSadEw>http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Used+ recreational+vehicles&w1=Recreational+vehicles&w2=Wanderlodge&w3=Automotive+ maintenance&w4=Recreational+vehicle+dealer&w5=Used+recreational+vehicles&w6= Automotive+radiators&c=6&s=163&.sig=UGEY5km4L-kXbDI4ZSadEw>Used > > >recreational vehicles > ><<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Automotive+radiators&w1=Recre > ational+vehicles&w2=Wanderlodge&w3=Automotive+maintenance&w4=Recreational+ve hicle+dealer&w5=Used+recreational+vehicles&w6=Automotive+radiators&c=6&s=163 &.sig=ePNVMmISsCWgTnMq_4GlXA>http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Automotive+ radiators&w1=Recreational+vehicles&w2=Wanderlodge&w3=Automotive+maintenance& w4=Recreational+vehicle+dealer&w5=Used+recreational+vehicles&w6=Automotive+r adiators&c=6&s=163&.sig=ePNVMmISsCWgTnMq_4GlXA>Automotive > > >radiators > > > > > >---------- > >YAHOO! 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04-17-2006, 06:02
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> could run one A/C from the inverter WHILE THE ENGINE WAS RUNNING.
> We have friends who converted buses with 24 VDC > systems and some kept the 24 VDC system and purchased the 24 VDC inverters. > > George Lowry > spearfish, SD Now in soggy Stockton, CA > > Thanks George, I probably wasn't clear. I understand that it is only while the engine in running. I routinely run a roof A/C, while plugged in on a 15 amp circuit so I thought if the inverter could handle 29 A continuous like their specs say that it would handle an A/C for a short time without overheating. I was more worried about the heat from current on the DC side. The other big issue is the starter motor. Your friends with the dual systems already have 24V on the starter circuit. An alternative would be to leave the starter on my two curb side batteries at 12v and put a vanner DC-DC converter to both charge those batteries and supply the 12 load in the coach through the existing link. ( I saw one like this on busnuts.com) It is looking like I am going to stay with the 12V for now. I needed a new alternator and battery charger so I had to explore 24v, especially since I want to add solar in the next few years. Solar seems to work well for Ms Tioga in the far west but further east it is not so clear. Last year when I came through Spearfish, SD it was cloudy and raining. It would definitely not be of much use in "Indianapolis in the Summertime" because of the rain. > >Lee, the Outback's are the best in the business and I sell all types. > >Blair in Oregon That's the impression I get from reading reviews. I will probably still add an outack inverter at some point, but smaller without the A/C load. Lee Benson, 85FC35, Carthage, IN |
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04-17-2006, 14:03
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LEE,
I run the front A/C unit on the Xantrex inverter while driving. My brother Dan runs his front A/C unit on the Xantrex 2,500 watt inverter while driving. Have run the roof A/C without the Detroit running while unloading from a trip. Ran no problem for about an hour. I shut it off when finished with chores, It didn't shut down from low voltage or over heat. Dan's inverter had a "over heat" shut down once. He was using the 160 amp alternator, which was insufficient. He installed a 320 amp alternator and has not had any trouble since that installation. I also installed a 320 amp alternator. Ran 6 hours on the interstate so far, with the front A/C blower ice cold air- no problem- none. When the voltage to the inverter is reduced(such as when a very high amp load is present, the amps must increase. Some electrical jargon says that- for the same load, if voltage is reduced, amperage must increase or if volatge is increased, amperage will be reduced. So when the little alternators were trying to maintain the load, I noticed the voltage drop and the amps were trying to be 150 or so. Alternators can not conyinuosly run at 90 or 100%, they will fry. They will run at 70% continously, at least the Leece NeVille will, I know from experience. Do not waste your money on the chassis A/C system. It is far to expensive and troublesome. I spent $1,800 on mine. It works, just have to recharge it every spring. Replaced 3 roof top a/c's that were 20 years old for about $1,700. Installed maintenance free inverter system for $1,800, everything except labor included. I would be $1,800 ahead had I known that the inverter could support a roof a/c. This is a post I placed a bit ago: "... My inverter is Xantrex 2500D, meaning dual in/dual out. This allows for 2 legs of 30 amps instead of 1. So, there is a 30 amp breaker on on each of the 2 legs in the factory distribution panel that feed power to each of the 2 (dual in) power legs of the inverter. I installed 2 auxillary power distribution panels, 1 for each leg (dual out) coming from the inverter. Now I have 8 breakers that are powered by the inverter. I would install the panels in the closet, even if you have to flush mount the boxes instead of cutting the factory panel and recessing the boxes. All 110V distribution in 1 spot! I also installed my link 1000 in the closet so all of my power is controlled from 1 location, very handy. The Redi-Line compartment must be water proofed. I used silicone caulk to plug every little hole in the compartment, Made sure the access cover installs tightly. Maybe use a little weater seal, prefer rubber instead of foam. My system works VERY well, no problems at all. One error i have seen people make. They have a tendancy to connect the white wires and the bare ground wires to the same place in the distribution panels. You CAN NOT do that, you automatic internal switch will fry trying to "lift" this connection. You MUST have isolated ground strips in each distribution panel, in other words, the white wires and bare ground wires must be isolated from each other. Here is a link to the installation manual: http://www.xantrex.com/web/id/429/docserve.asp Go to page 45, it will show you a simple schematic. For the Inverter selection process, go to: http://www.xantrex.com/web/id/254/docserve.asp For those of you wanting something really technical, something that will start your grn automatically, you'll need to look at the RV series. You are welcome to call me with questions- 217-971-0036. Jay Darst 85PT40 Xantrex 458 series X-81-2530-12 equipped. by the way, the "X" at the beginning of the part nuumber would indicate that the unit is a "rebuilt" unit. Usually about $450 cheaper than the brand new one. Remember, its brand new until you open the box, then its used. " I have a fair bit of experience with inverters, have done marine and RV installs. Have tried all the short cuts and made all the mistakes. Believe I got it now. Jay Darst 85PT40 Springfield, IL where we just got back from an Easter weekend in St.Louis in da Bird. Sundermeier RV Park, VERY nice for a city RV park. http://www.sundermeierrvpark.com, close to St.Louis Mills humongous shopping mall! My girls are industrial grade shoppers! --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "indynotjones" > > Hi electricians, My iota charger had an unfortunate encounter with a > welding outlet and I am in the market for a new one. One thing leads > to another and I am now looking at running the front A/C off an > inverter for those minor cooling days without the generator. Then I > looked at the currents and now am considering going to and LN 24v > alternator(maybe 130A at 24V) and an outback VFX3524M inverter. It > looks to me like I could hook the inverter to one of the 30 amp legs > and put the inverter loads there and that way the existing selector > switch would still work as isolation for the 50 amp and gen use? > > I have read through the writeup by http://ourodyssey.blogspot.com/ but > I don't want THAT much automation. I think the 24v bus would be an > asset for a future solar addition also. > > Any thoughts on 24V? > > Lee Benson, 85FC35, Carthage, IN > |
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04-17-2006, 14:16
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Just remember that to provide 15amps at 24 volts will require your generator
to provide about 83 amps at 24 volts or about 170 amps at 12 volts in addition to the load it is currently carrying. - Chuck Wheeler - 82 FC 31 SB Fort Worth, TX -----Original Message----- From: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of putneyflash@... Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 7:52 PM To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] 24 Volt Blair: could you run the fron ta/c off the inverter by tapping into the correct leg? seems that would work better than having the dash a/c repaired and converted from 12 to 134 re brake FC-35SB albany, ga. "sagecoach" -------------- Original message from Blair -------------- Lee, the Outback's are the best in the business and I sell all types. Blair in Oregon At 05:57 PM 4/15/2006, you wrote: >Hi electricians, My iota charger had an unfortunate encounter with a >welding outlet and I am in the market for a new one. One thing leads >to another and I am now looking at running the front A/C off an >inverter for those minor cooling days without the generator. Then I >looked at the currents and now am considering going to and LN 24v >alternator(maybe 130A at 24V) and an outback VFX3524M inverter. It >looks to me like I could hook the inverter to one of the 30 amp legs >and put the inverter loads there and that way the existing selector >switch would still work as isolation for the 50 amp and gen use? > >I have read through the writeup by ><http://ourodyssey.blogspot.com/>http://ourodyssey.blogspot.com/ but >I don't want THAT much automation. 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04-17-2006, 14:46
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--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Jay Darst"
wrote: > He was using the > 160 amp alternator, which was insufficient. He installed a 320 amp > alternator and has not had any trouble since > Good to know. I was thinking about a 160 A, 12v LN as plan B. I am not sure there is room for a 320 A on the 3208. > > Do not waste your money on the chassis A/C system. It is far to > expensive and troublesome. > No problem there, my chassis A/c has been in the barn for a year. > > > > This is a post I placed a bit ago: > > "... My inverter is Xantrex 2500D, meaning dual in/dual out. This > allows > for 2 legs of 30 amps instead of 1. So, there is a 30 amp breaker on > on each of the 2 legs in the factory distribution panel that feed > power to each of the 2 (dual in) power legs of the inverter. > I saw your previous post. Real good info. Thanks for the write up. Lee Benson, 85FC35, Carthage, IN |
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04-17-2006, 14:58
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Lee,
My brother Dan has a 1986 FC35RB with the 3208 and a 320amp Leece NeVille Alternator. The 160 and 320 use exactly the same mounting hardware with no modifications at all- NONE. You will need to change the cable that runs to the alternator as the factory stuff is 1 gage, we replaced ours with 1/0 cable. This can be a big PITA on the FC's, pretty easy on the PT. The 320 amp unit is $1,500 new. Buy a take off(from ambulance or fire truck) on E-Bay. I bought Dan's and mine on E-Bay for around $500 each. Dan's was brand new in the wrapper, mine was an ambulance take-off with about 100 miles on it. Jay Darst 85PT40 Springfield, IL --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "indynotjones" > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Jay Darst" > wrote: > > > He was using the > > 160 amp alternator, which was insufficient. He installed a 320 amp > > alternator and has not had any trouble since > > > Good to know. I was thinking about a 160 A, 12v LN as plan B. I am > not sure there is room for a 320 A on the 3208. > > > > > > Do not waste your money on the chassis A/C system. It is far to > > expensive and troublesome. > > > No problem there, my chassis A/c has been in the barn for a year. > > > > > > > > This is a post I placed a bit ago: > > > > "... My inverter is Xantrex 2500D, meaning dual in/dual out. This > > allows > > for 2 legs of 30 amps instead of 1. So, there is a 30 amp breaker on > > on each of the 2 legs in the factory distribution panel that feed > > power to each of the 2 (dual in) power legs of the inverter. > > > I saw your previous post. Real good info. Thanks for the write up. > > Lee Benson, 85FC35, Carthage, IN > |
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