exhaust brake

[birdshill123]

Has anyone here ever installed an aftermarket exhaust brake on an FC
3208 Turbo? Comments?

Bruce 88 FC

[Mike Hohnstein]

I had one, not real effective but great for fast warm-ups in the morning.
Mike Hohnstein
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Has anyone here ever installed an aftermarket exhaust brake on an FC
3208 Turbo? Comments?

Bruce 88 FC





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[erniecarpet@...]

Would the weight factor iin a bird have any bearing on performance? I
believe the bird weighs twice what the Bounder weighs. Just speculation on my
part.
ernie-83pt40- Texas- no operable jake brake, crud


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[Jeff Miller]

My experience with one on a 250hp FC31 is that it is a little more
effective than opening a roof vent.

Better than nothing though.

- Jeff Miller
in Holland, MI


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "birdshill123"
wrote:
>
> Has anyone here ever installed an aftermarket exhaust brake on an FC
> 3208 Turbo? Comments?
>
> Bruce 88 FC
>

[birdshill123]

Jeff: Yours is the second reply I have had with a negative on this
subject. Without getting too technical why are they ineffective in this
application? Our 5.9 Cummins in a Bounder sure works well. Obviously
the 3208 will not.

Thanks

Bruce 1988 FC35

[birdshill123]

Ernie: My Bounder has hurt feelings ! Twice the weight! I think my 39
ft. Bounder hs a GVW of 28,000 vs. 35,000 for the BB. There are lots
of havy motor homes with exhaust brakes that work well. Must be
something to do with the 3208 Cat.

Bruce 1988 FC35

[John]

I have an exhaust brake on my 'Birds CAT 3208NA and it does help some,
but not as well in comparison with the same unit on a CUMMINS, the
reason why is the back pressure that the CAT creates is at the most 28
pounds, compared to more than twice that amount on a Cummins, but it
still is better than nothing and I like mine, but if you are looking
for comparatively the same performance as other engine manufacturers
exhaust brakes or JAKE brakes or drive-line retarders, etc., you will
be greatly disappointed, so save your money.

I got mine off of eBay and it was brand new, but not needed by the
seller and was for a Cummins, I got it for about a third of the price
of a new one, so I'm happy with it's performance. I had to get it
modified a little in order to get it to work and it activates in the
fully closed position, by a switch on the shifter column and a
microswitch on the throttle.

I find it very useful for slowing the 'Bird down when coming into
towns with a posted slower speed limit, if I activate it at 60 mph,
when the slower speed limit ahead sign is at, it is usually slowed
down at the point of the actual lower posted 35 mph speed limit. I use
it while coming down steep grades, but it will not hold the speed of
the 'Bird down like a JAKE brake does, but it still helps save some
braking with the service brakes.


"REMEMBER SEPTEMBER 11, 2001"
John Finn
'82 35FCRB
BLUEBIRD WANDERLODGE
TO VISIT THE "FINN'S INN EXPRESS" REMODELING ADVENTURE
GO TO;
http://www.pbase.com/image/24977457
'66 SUPERIOR / IH 392 GAS V8 32' PUSHER "FOR SALE"
SEE THE OLD COACH AT:
http://www.pbase.com/image/26052733
HOPKINS, SOUTH CAROLINA

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--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "birdshill123"
wrote:
>
> Ernie: My Bounder has hurt feelings ! Twice the weight! I think my
39
> ft. Bounder hs a GVW of 28,000 vs. 35,000 for the BB. There are
lots
> of havy motor homes with exhaust brakes that work well. Must be
> something to do with the 3208 Cat.
>
> Bruce 1988 FC35
>

[erniecarpet@...]

Hi Bruce, I didn't realize your Bounder was a 39 foot model. Maybe with the
restrictions of the engine compartment, would that preclude the engine
exhaust brake? Curious. Ernie-83pt40 in Texas, looking for a 2 stroke mechanic


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[Jeff Miller]

Don't know, just wasn't much. Might be the difference between trying
to slow 30,000lbs with a pac-brake on the 3208 vs your 5.9 / pac-
brake on ??lbs, might be that I'm used to the Jacobs EL on FCs and
expected something close to the braking power of that setup. I was
disappointed.

- Jeff Miller
in Holland, MI

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "birdshill123"
wrote:
>
> Jeff: Yours is the second reply I have had with a negative on this
> subject. Without getting too technical why are they ineffective in
this
> application? Our 5.9 Cummins in a Bounder sure works well.
Obviously
> the 3208 will not.
>
> Thanks
>
> Bruce 1988 FC35
>

[randydupree2000]

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "John"
wrote: i have a couple of exhaust brakes for sale,used ones in good
condition,
randy dupree
>
> I have an exhaust brake on my 'Birds CAT 3208NA and it does help
some,
> but not as well in comparison with the same unit on a CUMMINS, the
> reason why is the back pressure that the CAT creates is at the
most 28
> pounds, compared to more than twice that amount on a Cummins, but
it
> still is better than nothing and I like mine, but if you are
looking
> for comparatively the same performance as other engine
manufacturers
> exhaust brakes or JAKE brakes or drive-line retarders, etc., you
will
> be greatly disappointed, so save your money.
>
> I got mine off of eBay and it was brand new, but not needed by the
> seller and was for a Cummins, I got it for about a third of the
price
> of a new one, so I'm happy with it's performance. I had to get it
> modified a little in order to get it to work and it activates in
the
> fully closed position, by a switch on the shifter column and a
> microswitch on the throttle.
>
> I find it very useful for slowing the 'Bird down when coming into
> towns with a posted slower speed limit, if I activate it at 60
mph,
> when the slower speed limit ahead sign is at, it is usually slowed
> down at the point of the actual lower posted 35 mph speed limit. I
use
> it while coming down steep grades, but it will not hold the speed
of
> the 'Bird down like a JAKE brake does, but it still helps save
some
> braking with the service brakes.
>
>
> "REMEMBER SEPTEMBER 11, 2001"
> John Finn
> '82 35FCRB
> BLUEBIRD WANDERLODGE
> TO VISIT THE "FINN'S INN EXPRESS" REMODELING ADVENTURE
> GO TO;
> http://www.pbase.com/image/24977457
> '66 SUPERIOR / IH 392 GAS V8 32' PUSHER "FOR SALE"
> SEE THE OLD COACH AT:
> http://www.pbase.com/image/26052733
> HOPKINS, SOUTH CAROLINA
>
> /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "birdshill123"
> wrote:
> >
> > Ernie: My Bounder has hurt feelings ! Twice the weight! I think
my
> 39
> > ft. Bounder hs a GVW of 28,000 vs. 35,000 for the BB. There are
> lots
> > of havy motor homes with exhaust brakes that work well. Must be
> > something to do with the 3208 Cat.
> >
> > Bruce 1988 FC35
> >
>