Reworked Alternator Tag

[jim matus]

While fixing the problem I had with my cooling fan I decided to change
all the belts and since I was pulling all the belts I might as well
pull the alternator and have it gone thru. It is a Leece-Neville and it
has a label stuck over the data plate. It says "Reworked Alternator BB
no.08258 Standard Alternator Will Not Work Properly" Anyone know what
BlueBird reworked on their alternators? Also what is the normal life
span of the water pump on a 3208,it wouldn't take much to change it
now,The mileage on the coach is 71,000 and it looks like the cooling
system was well maintained.
Jim Matus 1984FC35SB Rescue CA

[erniecarpet@...]

the little oil cooler hoses were the ones that started leaking on my FC. You
have to have a good swing radiator to get to those- or a body of a teenager.
Ernie-83pt40 in Texas


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[Mike Hohnstein]

Miller knows what's up with the LN alternator. Do the water pump and change out
the oil cooler hoses. Don't forget to take your arrangement numbers to the Cat
parts house.
Mike Hohnstein
Germantown, WI
83FC35
----- Original Message -----
From: jim matus
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 11:43 PM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Reworked Alternator Tag


While fixing the problem I had with my cooling fan I decided to change
all the belts and since I was pulling all the belts I might as well
pull the alternator and have it gone thru. It is a Leece-Neville and it
has a label stuck over the data plate. It says "Reworked Alternator BB
no.08258 Standard Alternator Will Not Work Properly" Anyone know what
BlueBird reworked on their alternators? Also what is the normal life
span of the water pump on a 3208,it wouldn't take much to change it
now,The mileage on the coach is 71,000 and it looks like the cooling
system was well maintained.
Jim Matus 1984FC35SB Rescue CA







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[Jeff Miller]

On the standard alternator, BlueBird removed the tab between the
voltage regulator terminal and the positive terminal. This is an
external strip/tab, the one on the negative side stays.

This allows the alternator to sense voltage remotely and charge the
batteries at a more accurate charging voltage when there is a heavy
load.

If you install an alternator with this tab NOT removed, turning off the
master 12v switch will cause the coach electrical systems to be powered
through this tab and a small (16AWG?) wire, will burn up the wire if
there is any significant load.

- Jeff Miller
in Holland, MI


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "jim matus"
wrote:
>
> While fixing the problem I had with my cooling fan I decided to
change
> all the belts and since I was pulling all the belts I might as well
> pull the alternator and have it gone thru. It is a Leece-Neville and
it
> has a label stuck over the data plate. It says "Reworked Alternator
BB
> no.08258 Standard Alternator Will Not Work Properly" Anyone know what
> BlueBird reworked on their alternators? Also what is the normal life
> span of the water pump on a 3208,it wouldn't take much to change it
> now,The mileage on the coach is 71,000 and it looks like the cooling
> system was well maintained.
> Jim Matus 1984FC35SB Rescue CA
>

[pattypape]

Jeff,

I had the Motorola alternator rebuilt before our winter trip.

The master disconnect kill switch was in the "ON" position for over
three months. Upon returning home, I began to again use the master
disconnect switch. When switching to the "Off" position, there is
now a voltage leak in the system, some on the relays will chatter.
Especially the air step relays and the dash/ step/ open light will
flicker. It seems to be a less than 12 volt leakage.
To get a positive shut down, I now turn on a small load like a
heater fan, then switch the master disconnect to the "OFF" position.

Could this tab be my problem??
Is this tab on the Motorola??
Could the alternator rebuild shop have hooked up this tab??

Thanks,

Bill 88 FC Michigan



--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Miller"
wrote:
>
> On the standard alternator, BlueBird removed the tab between the
> voltage regulator terminal and the positive terminal. This is an
> external strip/tab, the one on the negative side stays.
>
> This allows the alternator to sense voltage remotely and charge
the
> batteries at a more accurate charging voltage when there is a
heavy
> load.
>
> If you install an alternator with this tab NOT removed, turning
off the
> master 12v switch will cause the coach electrical systems to be
powered
> through this tab and a small (16AWG?) wire, will burn up the wire
if
> there is any significant load.
>
> - Jeff Miller
> in Holland, MI
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "jim matus"
> wrote:
> >
> > While fixing the problem I had with my cooling fan I decided to
> change
> > all the belts and since I was pulling all the belts I might as
well
> > pull the alternator and have it gone thru. It is a Leece-Neville
and
> it
> > has a label stuck over the data plate. It says "Reworked
Alternator
> BB
> > no.08258 Standard Alternator Will Not Work Properly" Anyone know
what
> > BlueBird reworked on their alternators? Also what is the normal
life
> > span of the water pump on a 3208,it wouldn't take much to change
it
> > now,The mileage on the coach is 71,000 and it looks like the
cooling
> > system was well maintained.
> > Jim Matus 1984FC35SB Rescue CA
> >
>

[Jeff Miller]

Not on the Motorola, I'm not aware of any '87-up coaches having this
arrangement but ??

I'd have to look at my '88 schematics to come up with a theory on
that one, not tonight I'm afraid.

- Jeff Miller
in Holland, MI


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "pattypape"
wrote:
>
>
> Jeff,
>
> I had the Motorola alternator rebuilt before our winter trip.
>
> The master disconnect kill switch was in the "ON" position for
over
> three months. Upon returning home, I began to again use the master
> disconnect switch. When switching to the "Off" position, there is
> now a voltage leak in the system, some on the relays will chatter.
> Especially the air step relays and the dash/ step/ open light will
> flicker. It seems to be a less than 12 volt leakage.
> To get a positive shut down, I now turn on a small load like a
> heater fan, then switch the master disconnect to the "OFF" position.
>
> Could this tab be my problem??
> Is this tab on the Motorola??
> Could the alternator rebuild shop have hooked up this tab??
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill 88 FC Michigan
>
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Miller"
> wrote:
> >
> > On the standard alternator, BlueBird removed the tab between the
> > voltage regulator terminal and the positive terminal. This is an
> > external strip/tab, the one on the negative side stays.
> >
> > This allows the alternator to sense voltage remotely and charge
> the
> > batteries at a more accurate charging voltage when there is a
> heavy
> > load.
> >
> > If you install an alternator with this tab NOT removed, turning
> off the
> > master 12v switch will cause the coach electrical systems to be
> powered
> > through this tab and a small (16AWG?) wire, will burn up the wire
> if
> > there is any significant load.
> >
> > - Jeff Miller
> > in Holland, MI
> >
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "jim matus"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > While fixing the problem I had with my cooling fan I decided to
> > change
> > > all the belts and since I was pulling all the belts I might as
> well
> > > pull the alternator and have it gone thru. It is a Leece-
Neville
> and
> > it
> > > has a label stuck over the data plate. It says "Reworked
> Alternator
> > BB
> > > no.08258 Standard Alternator Will Not Work Properly" Anyone
know
> what
> > > BlueBird reworked on their alternators? Also what is the normal
> life
> > > span of the water pump on a 3208,it wouldn't take much to
change
> it
> > > now,The mileage on the coach is 71,000 and it looks like the
> cooling
> > > system was well maintained.
> > > Jim Matus 1984FC35SB Rescue CA
> > >
> >
>

[Jay Darst]

Jeff,
Are all the Leece NeVilles built with that little tab?

Thanks
Jay Darst
85PT40
Spfld, IL


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Miller"
wrote:
>
> On the standard alternator, BlueBird removed the tab between the
> voltage regulator terminal and the positive terminal. This is an
> external strip/tab, the one on the negative side stays.
>
> This allows the alternator to sense voltage remotely and charge
the
> batteries at a more accurate charging voltage when there is a
heavy
> load.
>
> If you install an alternator with this tab NOT removed, turning
off the
> master 12v switch will cause the coach electrical systems to be
powered
> through this tab and a small (16AWG?) wire, will burn up the wire
if
> there is any significant load.
>
> - Jeff Miller
> in Holland, MI
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "jim matus"
> wrote:
> >
> > While fixing the problem I had with my cooling fan I decided to
> change
> > all the belts and since I was pulling all the belts I might as
well
> > pull the alternator and have it gone thru. It is a Leece-Neville
and
> it
> > has a label stuck over the data plate. It says "Reworked
Alternator
> BB
> > no.08258 Standard Alternator Will Not Work Properly" Anyone know
what
> > BlueBird reworked on their alternators? Also what is the normal
life
> > span of the water pump on a 3208,it wouldn't take much to change
it
> > now,The mileage on the coach is 71,000 and it looks like the
cooling
> > system was well maintained.
> > Jim Matus 1984FC35SB Rescue CA
> >
>

[jim matus]

Thanks Jeff, When I dropped the alternator off at the rebuild shop I
deal with the techs. there did not know what the rework might
consist of,but they said they would give it back to me in the same
configuration as it was. Now that I know I will make sure they don't
install the tie. Jim Matus 1984 FC35SB Rescue CA

WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Miller" wrote:
>
> On the standard alternator, BlueBird removed the tab between the
> voltage regulator terminal and the positive terminal. This is an
> external strip/tab, the one on the negative side stays.
>
> This allows the alternator to sense voltage remotely and charge
the
> batteries at a more accurate charging voltage when there is a
heavy
> load.
>
> If you install an alternator with this tab NOT removed, turning
off the
> master 12v switch will cause the coach electrical systems to be
powered
> through this tab and a small (16AWG?) wire, will burn up the wire
if
> there is any significant load.
>
> - Jeff Miller
> in Holland, MI
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "jim matus"
> wrote:
> >
> > While fixing the problem I had with my cooling fan I decided to
> change
> > all the belts and since I was pulling all the belts I might as
well
> > pull the alternator and have it gone thru. It is a Leece-Neville
and
> it
> > has a label stuck over the data plate. It says "Reworked
Alternator
> BB
> > no.08258 Standard Alternator Will Not Work Properly" Anyone know
what
> > BlueBird reworked on their alternators? Also what is the normal
life
> > span of the water pump on a 3208,it wouldn't take much to change
it
> > now,The mileage on the coach is 71,000 and it looks like the
cooling
> > system was well maintained.
> > Jim Matus 1984FC35SB Rescue CA
> >
>