Power Steering Box Question

[Andy Coleman]

Hello Everyone,

I took George's advice and called Bab Steering to fix the leaking pump
in my 83' FC.

I told Greg at Babs Steering about my problem, and also told him how
common pump problems are in the heavy FC Wanderlodges.

He told me that he might recommend a more heavy duty pump.

He asked a bunch of questions, including what the part number is on
the power steering box.

I went to find that number this afternoon, and realized just how
stuffed away the steering box really is! I could barely even see a
piece of it!

Does anybody know the steering box part number on an 83 FC?

I'm also going to replace all the lines and vent the reservoir as many
have recommended on this list.

Any other recommendations as I begin this power steering rebuild project?

Thanks everyone!

Andy Coleman
83 FC-35
Spring Lake Heights, NJ


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "George Lowry"
wrote:

The best power steering guy in the country is Bill, the owner of Bab
Steering in Fontana, CA. They have a couple of other plants scattered
around
the country, one in Ohio so it may be the same outfit. However, Bill is a
marvel on power steering. They do mostly heavy stuff and have solved
problems on past coaches for me and, even corrected a problem that we
had in
our Cadillac that the dealer could not find.

George Lowry
'06 Alpine Apex - Formerly '95 WBDA 4203
Spearfish, SD - Leaving Las Vegas for soggy Norcal


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From: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Mike Hohnstein
Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 5:35 AM
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] A New Member to the Family!


I share your pain, FCs are turds. Mine is a well tuned 250hp with
only 10k
miles on a reman engine. I have plenty of fuel flow and improved air
cleaner, however it still don't like grades. The Kitty Cat don't get it
done with less than the 300 hp arrangement. That means charge air cooler
and fuel system recalibrated. We are talking MAJOR changes here. Get
used
to the slow ride.
Sent the PS pump to Power Steering Specialists in OH, phone is 614 882
2422.
Vent the reservoir, that was overlooked by BB as produced. The pumps are
some what undersized and over driven, they operate on the edge of
cavitation, it's a good idea use larger diameter lines on the return side
when you freshen the PS system.
MH
----- Original Message -----
From: Andy Coleman
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 2:15 AM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] A New Member to the Family!


Hello Everyone,

Proud to say that I've just officially joined the Wanderlodge Family.
I'm now the owner of a 1983 FC-35 with a 225 HP turbo 3208. Bought
it Sunday. Drove it 500 miles from Malta, Ohio to my home in
Central NJ.

I wonder what the neighbors think about the new, brown addition to my
backyard!

Bought the bus from a family that did not use it much. Only a few
thousand miles of driving over the past 3.5 years.

The power steering pump leaked fluid all the way home. Had to re-fill
several times.

The worst problem I had, however, was speed. I averaged under 50 MPH
through the 500 mile journey. Some of the Pennsylvania hills on Route
70 & 76 slowed my coach down to 25 MPH in the right lane with the
emergency flashers on. Any upward elevation change, even slight ones,
slowed my coach down into the low 50s. It was the long climbs that
choked it. And the only excess weight in the bus was my girlfriend,
tool box and 100 gallons of gas!

A good friend of mine is a diesel mechanic. He is going to take a
look at the bus for me shortly. I told him about this great forum,
and he recommended that I ask experienced folks like yourself if this
performance is normal, or an indication of a problem.

I realize that they are heavy buses, but are they really that slow?
Even with the turbo? Creeping along in the right lane is dangerous!

My friend and I are going to change the fuel and air filters, adjust
the valve lash, replace the belts. Anybody else have suggestions?
They will be greatly appreciated!

Andy Coleman
Wanderlodge Virgin No More!
83 FC - 35.
Spring Lake Heights, NJ





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[Gregory OConnor]

Andy, remember the weak link theory. from pressure lines and mounting
setup, to belts and idler pullies. Then to asphalt on a hot day.
Good as new reveals no engineering flaws.
Greg
94pt Romoland Ca --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Andy
Coleman" wrote:
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> I took George's advice and called Bab Steering to fix the leaking
pump
> in my 83' FC.
>
> I told Greg at Babs Steering about my problem, and also told him how
> common pump problems are in the heavy FC Wanderlodges.
>
> He told me that he might recommend a more heavy duty pump.
>
> He asked a bunch of questions, including what the part number is on
> the power steering box.
>
> I went to find that number this afternoon, and realized just how
> stuffed away the steering box really is! I could barely even see a
> piece of it!
>
> Does anybody know the steering box part number on an 83 FC?
>
> I'm also going to replace all the lines and vent the reservoir as
many
> have recommended on this list.
>
> Any other recommendations as I begin this power steering rebuild
project?
>
> Thanks everyone!
>
> Andy Coleman
> 83 FC-35
> Spring Lake Heights, NJ
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "George Lowry"
> wrote:
>
> The best power steering guy in the country is Bill, the owner of Bab
> Steering in Fontana, CA. They have a couple of other plants
scattered
> around
> the country, one in Ohio so it may be the same outfit. However,
Bill is a
> marvel on power steering. They do mostly heavy stuff and have solved
> problems on past coaches for me and, even corrected a problem that
we
> had in
> our Cadillac that the dealer could not find.
>
> George Lowry
> '06 Alpine Apex - Formerly '95 WBDA 4203
> Spearfish, SD - Leaving Las Vegas for soggy Norcal
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Mike Hohnstein
> Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 5:35 AM
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] A New Member to the Family!
>
>
> I share your pain, FCs are turds. Mine is a well tuned 250hp with
> only 10k
> miles on a reman engine. I have plenty of fuel flow and improved
air
> cleaner, however it still don't like grades. The Kitty Cat don't
get it
> done with less than the 300 hp arrangement. That means charge air
cooler
> and fuel system recalibrated. We are talking MAJOR changes here.
Get
> used
> to the slow ride.
> Sent the PS pump to Power Steering Specialists in OH, phone is 614
882
> 2422.
> Vent the reservoir, that was overlooked by BB as produced. The
pumps are
> some what undersized and over driven, they operate on the edge of
> cavitation, it's a good idea use larger diameter lines on the
return side
> when you freshen the PS system.
> MH
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Andy Coleman
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 2:15 AM
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] A New Member to the Family!
>
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> Proud to say that I've just officially joined the Wanderlodge
Family.
> I'm now the owner of a 1983 FC-35 with a 225 HP turbo 3208.
Bought
> it Sunday. Drove it 500 miles from Malta, Ohio to my home in
> Central NJ.
>
> I wonder what the neighbors think about the new, brown addition
to my
> backyard!
>
> Bought the bus from a family that did not use it much. Only a few
> thousand miles of driving over the past 3.5 years.
>
> The power steering pump leaked fluid all the way home. Had to re-
fill
> several times.
>
> The worst problem I had, however, was speed. I averaged under 50
MPH
> through the 500 mile journey. Some of the Pennsylvania hills on
Route
> 70 & 76 slowed my coach down to 25 MPH in the right lane with the
> emergency flashers on. Any upward elevation change, even slight
ones,
> slowed my coach down into the low 50s. It was the long climbs
that
> choked it. And the only excess weight in the bus was my
girlfriend,
> tool box and 100 gallons of gas!
>
> A good friend of mine is a diesel mechanic. He is going to take a
> look at the bus for me shortly. I told him about this great
forum,
> and he recommended that I ask experienced folks like yourself if
this
> performance is normal, or an indication of a problem.
>
> I realize that they are heavy buses, but are they really that
slow?
> Even with the turbo? Creeping along in the right lane is
dangerous!
>
> My friend and I are going to change the fuel and air filters,
adjust
> the valve lash, replace the belts. Anybody else have suggestions?
> They will be greatly appreciated!
>
> Andy Coleman
> Wanderlodge Virgin No More!
> 83 FC - 35.
> Spring Lake Heights, NJ
>
>
>
>
>
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[Bruce Morris]

Andy, here is the information I have from the WOO parts data base.

chassis Part: Power Steering Pump Part No: Eaton Pump ER-15641-1 Model: 80s FC
Link:
Company: Texas Power Steering Address: 3800 N. McCarty Houston, TX 77029
Contact: Ed Woods Phone: (800) 331-6286
Member: Cost: $255.00

Hope this helps.

Bruce Morris (919)872-7635 Raleigh, NC
Webmaster - Wanderlodge Owners Online
1983 WL FC35RB

FMCA: 7142s Ham Radio: KI4ME
Vietnam Vet - 1966-67 'Doc' (Navy Corpsman) 3rd MarDiv
----- Original Message -----
From: Andy Coleman
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 2:06 AM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Power Steering Box Question


Hello Everyone,

I took George's advice and called Bab Steering to fix the leaking pump
in my 83' FC.

I told Greg at Babs Steering about my problem, and also told him how
common pump problems are in the heavy FC Wanderlodges.

He told me that he might recommend a more heavy duty pump.

He asked a bunch of questions, including what the part number is on
the power steering box.

I went to find that number this afternoon, and realized just how
stuffed away the steering box really is! I could barely even see a
piece of it!

Does anybody know the steering box part number on an 83 FC?

I'm also going to replace all the lines and vent the reservoir as many
have recommended on this list.

Any other recommendations as I begin this power steering rebuild project?

Thanks everyone!

Andy Coleman
83 FC-35
Spring Lake Heights, NJ


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "George Lowry"
wrote:

The best power steering guy in the country is Bill, the owner of Bab
Steering in Fontana, CA. They have a couple of other plants scattered
around
the country, one in Ohio so it may be the same outfit. However, Bill is a
marvel on power steering. They do mostly heavy stuff and have solved
problems on past coaches for me and, even corrected a problem that we
had in
our Cadillac that the dealer could not find.

George Lowry
'06 Alpine Apex - Formerly '95 WBDA 4203
Spearfish, SD - Leaving Las Vegas for soggy Norcal


-----Original Message-----
From: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Mike Hohnstein
Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 5:35 AM
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] A New Member to the Family!


I share your pain, FCs are turds. Mine is a well tuned 250hp with
only 10k
miles on a reman engine. I have plenty of fuel flow and improved air
cleaner, however it still don't like grades. The Kitty Cat don't get it
done with less than the 300 hp arrangement. That means charge air cooler
and fuel system recalibrated. We are talking MAJOR changes here. Get
used
to the slow ride.
Sent the PS pump to Power Steering Specialists in OH, phone is 614 882
2422.
Vent the reservoir, that was overlooked by BB as produced. The pumps are
some what undersized and over driven, they operate on the edge of
cavitation, it's a good idea use larger diameter lines on the return side
when you freshen the PS system.
MH
----- Original Message -----
From: Andy Coleman
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 2:15 AM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] A New Member to the Family!


Hello Everyone,

Proud to say that I've just officially joined the Wanderlodge Family.
I'm now the owner of a 1983 FC-35 with a 225 HP turbo 3208. Bought
it Sunday. Drove it 500 miles from Malta, Ohio to my home in
Central NJ.

I wonder what the neighbors think about the new, brown addition to my
backyard!

Bought the bus from a family that did not use it much. Only a few
thousand miles of driving over the past 3.5 years.

The power steering pump leaked fluid all the way home. Had to re-fill
several times.

The worst problem I had, however, was speed. I averaged under 50 MPH
through the 500 mile journey. Some of the Pennsylvania hills on Route
70 & 76 slowed my coach down to 25 MPH in the right lane with the
emergency flashers on. Any upward elevation change, even slight ones,
slowed my coach down into the low 50s. It was the long climbs that
choked it. And the only excess weight in the bus was my girlfriend,
tool box and 100 gallons of gas!

A good friend of mine is a diesel mechanic. He is going to take a
look at the bus for me shortly. I told him about this great forum,
and he recommended that I ask experienced folks like yourself if this
performance is normal, or an indication of a problem.

I realize that they are heavy buses, but are they really that slow?
Even with the turbo? Creeping along in the right lane is dangerous!

My friend and I are going to change the fuel and air filters, adjust
the valve lash, replace the belts. Anybody else have suggestions?
They will be greatly appreciated!

Andy Coleman
Wanderlodge Virgin No More!
83 FC - 35.
Spring Lake Heights, NJ





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