HWH leveling jacks

[iwander_85pt40]

Hi all,

I have an oil leak out the bottom of one of my front kick down jacks.
I'm assuming the 'o' ring is bad (most likely old age), and needs to be
replaced.

Has anybody been involved with this type of repair? Based on your
experience, would you recommend rebuilding the jack or replacing it
with another unit?

Phil Corpus
'iWander'
85PT40
Left Coast, Southern California

[Wallace Craig]

Hi Phil & Christina; glad you agree with me about the Cross-fires. Hope someone
else can answer your question about jacks. Please don't hog all the rain; we
still need it in Texas in the worst way; sure glad we are on a well which is
still pumping and not having water restrictions like them there "city folk".
Good Travels,

iwander_85pt40 wrote:
Hi all,

I have an oil leak out the bottom of one of my front kick down jacks.
I'm assuming the 'o' ring is bad (most likely old age), and needs to be
replaced.

Has anybody been involved with this type of repair? Based on your
experience, would you recommend rebuilding the jack or replacing it
with another unit?

Phil Corpus
'iWander'
85PT40
Left Coast, Southern California







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Wallace Craig
95 WLWB 42
Azle, Texas


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[Scott Forman]

Phil,

When you say the "bottom", I assume you mean it is leaking where the
hydraulic piston extends out of the jack. If I am correct, I had the
same problem on one of my jacks, and I just shipped it off the HWH
last week to have it rebuilt. Frank at HWH said it will be about
$250 to rebuild it, where as replacing with new is about twice that
much. The jack is easy to remove, just loosen the hydraulic line and
remove four bolts. Be mindful of supporting the jack as you remove
the bolts, though...it weighs about 65 lbs, and gravity will make
sure it crushes and bodily apendage when it breaks loose.

You may want to call Frank at HWH, 800-321-3494, he is very helpful.
I was able to replace my whole leveling pump with an updated unit
with his assistance, and I am ertainly no mechanic.

Good luck
Scott Forman
82 FC35RB
Memphis

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "iwander_85pt40"
wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I have an oil leak out the bottom of one of my front kick down
jacks.
> I'm assuming the 'o' ring is bad (most likely old age), and needs
to be
> replaced.
>
> Has anybody been involved with this type of repair? Based on your
> experience, would you recommend rebuilding the jack or replacing it
> with another unit?
>
> Phil Corpus
> 'iWander'
> 85PT40
> Left Coast, Southern California
>

[krminyl@...]

Hi Phil,

Curt and I both fixed our leaking front jacks in the last 6 months or so.
With ours, the leak was coming from the little hydraulic piston that is used
to "kick down" the front jacks. It's a bitch to fix, because you really need
three hands to put it back together. But, hey, we fixed ours...be careful
when you take the unit apart...there are a few little springs, valving pins,
etc, that can get lost in that puddle of Dextron III you will have under the
jack when you take it apart.

HWH took my old leaking unit (the kick down unit), and replaced it with a
new one, and gave me back 50% the cost of a new one (it cost me about $75). No
leaks since.

Curt, chime in if you have some other comments and advice to Phil. Also,
Phil, tell Christina that my wife Pam is already on her 4th "Poodle Book" by
the author she recommended. Tell her thanks.

Good luck on the repair....I hope it's just the kick down piston....

Kevin McKeown
Yorba Linda, CA
1986 38' PT (without leaking jacks)


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[Gregory OConnor]

Phil, Pull it off and drop it at 'O rings and Things' (800) 244-4614
in Fontana across from the California SpeedWay.( If you get out this
way on Business) If you split the ram they will check the cylinder
walls to advise if a repair vs $250.00 replace is necessary while you
are in the shop. You may want to bring along the HWH fatory phone
number in the event Oring needs info. Some times the rod gets a scar or
the cylinder walls get buggered up by water or gunk and blows the seal
or the seal just gets old with low use.If it is an old issue there may
be more leaking to follow and a local repair shop to do the seal
replace without shipping may be the way to go. I have a Tilt ram on a
tractor with factory rebuild of $445.00, ORings repacked the ram for
$72.00

Tim and I look forward to the next Rally you have planned. It will be
good to see Christina again. We have our reservations

Gregory O'Connor
94ptRomolandCa
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "iwander_85pt40"
wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I have an oil leak out the bottom of one of my front kick down jacks.
> I'm assuming the 'o' ring is bad (most likely old age), and needs to
be
> replaced.
>
> Has anybody been involved with this type of repair? Based on your
> experience, would you recommend rebuilding the jack or replacing it
> with another unit?
>
> Phil Corpus
> 'iWander'
> 85PT40
> Left Coast, Southern California
>

[iwander_85pt40]

Scott,

Thanks for the info. The leak is where the piston extends out of
the tube. According to the product diagram, there is an 'o' ring at
the bottom of the tube. I figure old age set in.

I'll check with Frank @ HWH and decide what to to. Maybe he'll know
of a source for an exchange rebuilt unit here in California. It will
cost a few bucks to ship this hunk of metal to and from the factory.

Phil Corpus
'iWander'
85PT40
Left Coast, California


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Forman" <sforman@...>
wrote:
>
> Phil,
>
> When you say the "bottom", I assume you mean it is leaking where the
> hydraulic piston extends out of the jack. If I am correct, I had the
> same problem on one of my jacks, and I just shipped it off the HWH
> last week to have it rebuilt. Frank at HWH said it will be about
> $250 to rebuild it, where as replacing with new is about twice that
> much. The jack is easy to remove, just loosen the hydraulic line and
> remove four bolts. Be mindful of supporting the jack as you remove
> the bolts, though...it weighs about 65 lbs, and gravity will make
> sure it crushes and bodily apendage when it breaks loose.
>
> You may want to call Frank at HWH, 800-321-3494, he is very helpful.
> I was able to replace my whole leveling pump with an updated unit
> with his assistance, and I am ertainly no mechanic.
>
> Good luck
> Scott Forman
> 82 FC35RB
> Memphis
>

[iwander_85pt40]

Hi Wallace,

I'd love to have the Crossfires on my auto transport truck. It's a
pain to check air pressure in eight (count them) inner duals.

Sorry you didn't get the rain I sent your way. We're done for a few
months.

Our best to Faye.

Phil

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Wallace Craig
wrote:
>
> Hi Phil & Christina; glad you agree with me about the Cross-fires.
Hope someone else can answer your question about jacks. Please don't
hog all the rain; we still need it in Texas in the worst way; sure
glad we are on a well which is still pumping and not having water
restrictions like them there "city folk".
> Good Travels,
>
> iwander_85pt40 wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I have an oil leak out the bottom of one of my front kick down jacks.
> I'm assuming the 'o' ring is bad (most likely old age), and needs to be
> replaced.
>
> Has anybody been involved with this type of repair? Based on your
> experience, would you recommend rebuilding the jack or replacing it
> with another unit?
>
> Phil Corpus
> 'iWander'
> 85PT40
> Left Coast, Southern California
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Wallace Craig
> 95 WLWB 42
> Azle, Texas
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

[iwander_85pt40]

Thanks Greg for another option.

My dispatcher keeps me looping the Bay Area and Oxnard, so I don't get
down south too much.

I'll check with "O Rings and Things" and find out what their business
days are. If they are open on Saturdays, I could drive down.

We'll see you and Tim at the rally. It will be fun.

Phil



--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Gregory OConnor"
wrote:
>
> Phil, Pull it off and drop it at 'O rings and Things' (800) 244-4614
> in Fontana across from the California SpeedWay.( If you get out this
> way on Business) If you split the ram they will check the cylinder
> walls to advise if a repair vs $250.00 replace is necessary while you
> are in the shop. You may want to bring along the HWH fatory phone
> number in the event Oring needs info. Some times the rod gets a scar or
> the cylinder walls get buggered up by water or gunk and blows the seal
> or the seal just gets old with low use.If it is an old issue there may
> be more leaking to follow and a local repair shop to do the seal
> replace without shipping may be the way to go. I have a Tilt ram on a
> tractor with factory rebuild of $445.00, ORings repacked the ram for
> $72.00
>
> Tim and I look forward to the next Rally you have planned. It will be
> good to see Christina again. We have our reservations
>
> Gregory O'Connor
> 94ptRomolandCa
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "iwander_85pt40"
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I have an oil leak out the bottom of one of my front kick down jacks.
> > I'm assuming the 'o' ring is bad (most likely old age), and needs to
> be
> > replaced.
> >
> > Has anybody been involved with this type of repair? Based on your
> > experience, would you recommend rebuilding the jack or replacing it
> > with another unit?
> >
> > Phil Corpus
> > 'iWander'
> > 85PT40
> > Left Coast, Southern California
> >
>

[Gardner Yeaw]

I plan to call HWH, but maybe I can get the answer here.
My jacks have worked perfectly and this weekend I used them twice. The
third time the right rear jack would not drop down. It would move a
little, but stop. I noticed that the jack was extended about 2 inches.
I tried several times but no good. When i packed up and retracted the
rest of the jacks I noticed the 'bad' jack was retracted. I suspect it
will work now, but don't want to take the chance that it would deploy
and not retract.

How does the jack actually work. I understand that there is a
system for lowering the jack assembly and another for extending the
shaft to raise the coach. Is this how it works?

Gardner
78FC33 (emulating a flamingo at this moment)

[Mike Hohnstein]

Verify the reservoir is full when the jacks are retracted. It is possible the
actuator is malfunctioning. Actuator is the little thingy on the side of the
main cylinder, they tend to leak.
HWH is a good outfit and as I'm only a half day drive from them, I head over
there when I have service issues, they work cheaper than I'm willing to. They
will provide the information for trouble shooting your unit, over the phone.
The system is straight forward, the valve body levers trigger a micro switch
when moved that starts the pump, the individual valves flow to the appropriate
cylinder and pressurize it as long as the lever is held on, until fully
extended, or reservoir runs dry. Use Dextron ATF only.
MH
----- Original Message -----
From: Gardner Yeaw
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 9:22 PM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] HWH leveling jacks


I plan to call HWH, but maybe I can get the answer here.
My jacks have worked perfectly and this weekend I used them twice. The
third time the right rear jack would not drop down. It would move a
little, but stop. I noticed that the jack was extended about 2 inches.
I tried several times but no good. When i packed up and retracted the
rest of the jacks I noticed the 'bad' jack was retracted. I suspect it
will work now, but don't want to take the chance that it would deploy
and not retract.

How does the jack actually work. I understand that there is a
system for lowering the jack assembly and another for extending the
shaft to raise the coach. Is this how it works?

Gardner
78FC33 (emulating a flamingo at this moment)





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