Koni FSD Shocks

[David Brady]

Folks,

Koni has developed the FSD (Frequency Selective
Dampening) shocks for the 1998 to 2003 LXi.
They won't be available for shipment till October,
but you can place your order now to reserve a set. The
first production run will be for 50 sets of shocks. The
FSD is the shock that comes standard on the 450 and
the 380.

The benefits of the FSD can be found here:

http://www.koni-na.com/fsd/index2.html

No financial interest,

David Brady
'02 LXi, Smokey
Va

[Robert Britton]

BlueBird is now using the new Koni FSD shocks on their new motor homes
(self adjusting), they are now available for older BlueBirds.

Is there anyone that has installed these on an older coach and if so
how do you like them? Are they available for both front and rear?

I'm getting ready to replace the air bags and shocks on my coach, not
sure if I want to do the job myself, thinking of taking it to Holland
Motor Homes in San Diego and let them have at it.

They will install the shocks and all air bags for $1062 plus parts.

Robert Britton
87FC
Hollister, California

[erniecarpet@...]

Robert, that may be money well spent. I had a truck stop replace an air bag
for me- took them 3 hours.

Ernie Ekberg
83PT40
Livingston, Mt




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[brad barton]

Jessie at BB confirmed that my original shocks can be tightened a
quarter-turn to cut down on the porpoising. I've heard it also has to do
with running higher pressures in the tires, but I'd rather keep my tires up.



Brad Barton 00LXiDFW
bbartonwx@...





>From: "Robert Britton"
>Reply-To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
>To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Koni FSD Shocks
>Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 04:41:27 -0000
>
>BlueBird is now using the new Koni FSD shocks on their new motor homes
>(self adjusting), they are now available for older BlueBirds.
>
>Is there anyone that has installed these on an older coach and if so
>how do you like them? Are they available for both front and rear?
>
>I'm getting ready to replace the air bags and shocks on my coach, not
>sure if I want to do the job myself, thinking of taking it to Holland
>Motor Homes in San Diego and let them have at it.
>
>They will install the shocks and all air bags for $1062 plus parts.
>
>Robert Britton
>87FC
>Hollister, California
>

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[John Stiles]

I have the new Koni FSD shocks on the rear of my 1980. When I
purchased new replacement Koni's at the RITV last October at the
time the FSD's were only available for the rear. Its hard to say
what the improvement is since the FSD's are on the rear and I now
have new shocks all the way around. The difference in ride and
driving was well beyond my expectations but who is to say how much
of that is new technology on the rear or simply the fact that I
replaced 27 year old original shocks. Either way I am more than
pleased....

John Stiles
1980 33FC
"My Navion"



--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "brad barton"
<bbartonwx@...> wrote:
>
> Jessie at BB confirmed that my original shocks can be tightened a
> quarter-turn to cut down on the porpoising. I've heard it also
has to do
> with running higher pressures in the tires, but I'd rather keep my
tires up.
>
>
>
> Brad Barton 00LXiDFW
> bbartonwx@...
>
>
>
>
>
> >From: "Robert Britton"
> >Reply-To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> >To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Koni FSD Shocks
> >Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 04:41:27 -0000
> >
> >BlueBird is now using the new Koni FSD shocks on their new motor
homes
> >(self adjusting), they are now available for older BlueBirds.
> >
> >Is there anyone that has installed these on an older coach and if
so
> >how do you like them? Are they available for both front and rear?
> >
> >I'm getting ready to replace the air bags and shocks on my coach,
not
> >sure if I want to do the job myself, thinking of taking it to
Holland
> >Motor Homes in San Diego and let them have at it.
> >
> >They will install the shocks and all air bags for $1062 plus
parts.
> >
> >Robert Britton
> >87FC
> >Hollister, California
> >
>
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[Eric Johnson]

Robert,
I replaced the air bags on the front of our coach back in 2000. It was quite a
job and
required dismantling part of the exhaust system to get to the left bags. Let us
say, it was
a character building experience. If you can get all that done by Holland for
that price, I'd
go for it unless you prefer to do your own work.
Regards, Eric in San Antonio
84FC35SBWL2
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Britton"
wrote:
>
> BlueBird is now using the new Koni FSD shocks on their new motor homes
> (self adjusting), they are now available for older BlueBirds.
>
> Is there anyone that has installed these on an older coach and if so
> how do you like them? Are they available for both front and rear?
>
> I'm getting ready to replace the air bags and shocks on my coach, not
> sure if I want to do the job myself, thinking of taking it to Holland
> Motor Homes in San Diego and let them have at it.
>
> They will install the shocks and all air bags for $1062 plus parts.
>
> Robert Britton
> 87FC
> Hollister, California
>

[Eric Johnson]

Brad,
My experience has been that lower tire pressures lead to more porpoising and
higher tire
pressures provide less. I run 105 psi in our fronts and get a pretty good ride.
There are
some sections of highway that can still make it feel like a buckboard, but those
are pretty
rare. Some bridge sections with prestressed concrete beams that are bowed.
Regards, Eric in San Antonio
84FC35SBWL2

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "brad barton" <bbartonwx@...> wrote:
>
> Jessie at BB confirmed that my original shocks can be tightened a
> quarter-turn to cut down on the porpoising. I've heard it also has to do
> with running higher pressures in the tires, but I'd rather keep my tires up.
>
>
>
> Brad Barton 00LXiDFW
> bbartonwx@...
>
>
>
>
>
> >From: "Robert Britton"
> >Reply-To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> >To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Koni FSD Shocks
> >Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 04:41:27 -0000
> >
> >BlueBird is now using the new Koni FSD shocks on their new motor homes
> >(self adjusting), they are now available for older BlueBirds.
> >
> >Is there anyone that has installed these on an older coach and if so
> >how do you like them? Are they available for both front and rear?
> >
> >I'm getting ready to replace the air bags and shocks on my coach, not
> >sure if I want to do the job myself, thinking of taking it to Holland
> >Motor Homes in San Diego and let them have at it.
> >
> >They will install the shocks and all air bags for $1062 plus parts.
> >
> >Robert Britton
> >87FC
> >Hollister, California
> >
>
> _________________________________________________________________
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>

[brad barton]

Thanks for the response, Eric.
We're running 120, 110 and 105 PSI front to back.
Tightening up the shocks is the main order of business.
I also have an oil seal leaking on the left tag wheel.


Brad Barton 00LXiDFW
bbartonwx@...





>From: "Eric Johnson"
>Reply-To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
>To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Koni FSD Shocks
>Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 14:13:59 -0000
>
>Brad,
>My experience has been that lower tire pressures lead to more porpoising
>and higher tire
>pressures provide less. I run 105 psi in our fronts and get a pretty good
>ride. There are
>some sections of highway that can still make it feel like a buckboard, but
>those are pretty
>rare. Some bridge sections with prestressed concrete beams that are bowed.
>Regards, Eric in San Antonio
>84FC35SBWL2
>
>--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "brad barton" <bbartonwx@...>
>wrote:
> >
> > Jessie at BB confirmed that my original shocks can be tightened a
> > quarter-turn to cut down on the porpoising. I've heard it also has to
>do
> > with running higher pressures in the tires, but I'd rather keep my tires
>up.
> >
> >
> >
> > Brad Barton 00LXiDFW
> > bbartonwx@...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: "Robert Britton"
> > >Reply-To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > >To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > >Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Koni FSD Shocks
> > >Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 04:41:27 -0000
> > >
> > >BlueBird is now using the new Koni FSD shocks on their new motor homes
> > >(self adjusting), they are now available for older BlueBirds.
> > >
> > >Is there anyone that has installed these on an older coach and if so
> > >how do you like them? Are they available for both front and rear?
> > >
> > >I'm getting ready to replace the air bags and shocks on my coach, not
> > >sure if I want to do the job myself, thinking of taking it to Holland
> > >Motor Homes in San Diego and let them have at it.
> > >
> > >They will install the shocks and all air bags for $1062 plus parts.
> > >
> > >Robert Britton
> > >87FC
> > >Hollister, California
> > >
> >
> > _________________________________________________________________
> > Watch free concerts with Pink, Rod Stewart, Oasis and more. Visit MSN
> > Presents today.
> >
>http://music.msn.com/presents?icid=ncmsn...SN03A07001
> >
>
>

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[David Brady]

Robert,

I just installed the FSD's on the rear of my LXi and the
results are astonishing. The ride over the rough stuff is
much smoother and the handling is more responsive. Now
we have to put pressure on Koni to develop the FSD's
for the front. I've been told by Justin at Koni that the fronts
require a higher pressure rated FSD valve due to the 45 deg
mounting angle of the shock (something like a 2:1 ratio of
axle movement versus shock movement). Justin recommended
adjusting the front shocks one turn from full soft. The extra
control that the rear shocks provide helps iron out some of
the porpoising up front. I found that if the front shocks are too
stiff, the front end seems to fall into road when hitting bumps,
adjusting one turn from full soft lets the tires follow the roadway.

I also installed Crossfires and Centramatics. The Centramatics
provide a noticeable improvement in smoothness - highly
recommended (NFI). I run 105, 90, 85 tire psi front to back. My
tag airbag pressure is 65 to 67psi. My weight is steer: 14.2K,
drive: 22K, and tag: 11K.

David Brady
'02 LXi, Smokey
NC


Robert Britton wrote:
>
> BlueBird is now using the new Koni FSD shocks on their new motor homes
> (self adjusting), they are now available for older BlueBirds.
>
> Is there anyone that has installed these on an older coach and if so
> how do you like them? Are they available for both front and rear?
>
> I'm getting ready to replace the air bags and shocks on my coach, not
> sure if I want to do the job myself, thinking of taking it to Holland
> Motor Homes in San Diego and let them have at it.
>
> They will install the shocks and all air bags for $1062 plus parts.
>
> Robert Britton
> 87FC
> Hollister, California
>
>
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[brad barton]

David,
I just got my LXi a few weeks ago and noticed the porpoising was severe.
After driving a Newell the past five years, I had forgotten about
porpoising. And with the ISRI air seat, the vertical movement was even more
magnified. With less then 37k miles, I'm sure I still have the original
shocks, whatever they are. BB recommended tightening the front shocks a
quarter turn at a time. I'm assuming the FSDs in the rear are firmer as
well. I do run higher tire pressures..120, 110, 105. Is it your experience
that simiply tightening the shocks does no good?



Brad Barton 00LXiDFW
bbartonwx@...




>From: David Brady
>Reply-To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
>To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Koni FSD Shocks
>Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2007 18:14:26 -0400
>
>Robert,
>
>I just installed the FSD's on the rear of my LXi and the
>results are astonishing. The ride over the rough stuff is
>much smoother and the handling is more responsive. Now
>we have to put pressure on Koni to develop the FSD's
>for the front. I've been told by Justin at Koni that the fronts
>require a higher pressure rated FSD valve due to the 45 deg
>mounting angle of the shock (something like a 2:1 ratio of
>axle movement versus shock movement). Justin recommended
>adjusting the front shocks one turn from full soft. The extra
>control that the rear shocks provide helps iron out some of
>the porpoising up front. I found that if the front shocks are too
>stiff, the front end seems to fall into road when hitting bumps,
>adjusting one turn from full soft lets the tires follow the roadway.
>
>I also installed Crossfires and Centramatics. The Centramatics
>provide a noticeable improvement in smoothness - highly
>recommended (NFI). I run 105, 90, 85 tire psi front to back. My
>tag airbag pressure is 65 to 67psi. My weight is steer: 14.2K,
>drive: 22K, and tag: 11K.
>
>David Brady
>'02 LXi, Smokey
>NC
>
>
>Robert Britton wrote:
> >
> > BlueBird is now using the new Koni FSD shocks on their new motor homes
> > (self adjusting), they are now available for older BlueBirds.
> >
> > Is there anyone that has installed these on an older coach and if so
> > how do you like them? Are they available for both front and rear?
> >
> > I'm getting ready to replace the air bags and shocks on my coach, not
> > sure if I want to do the job myself, thinking of taking it to Holland
> > Motor Homes in San Diego and let them have at it.
> >
> > They will install the shocks and all air bags for $1062 plus parts.
> >
> > Robert Britton
> > 87FC
> > Hollister, California
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date.
> > Checked by AVG Free Edition.
> > Version: 7.1.413 / Virus Database: 268.18.11/723 - Release Date:
>3/15/2007
> >
>
>
>
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