Fueling

[birdshill123]

Rob; Sorry I will have to disagree with you. I would have to get out
our diary but I can name all kinds of flying Js with RV lanes that are
next to useless including some of the new super J's: Albuquerque, the
RV's have to line up on the street as the island is very small. When
you exit the island you are right in the lane of all the 4 wheelers.
Omaha, Nebraska: The RV lane does not have in line entry from the road.
You have to turn left real hard and then straighten out. The air reel
has been destroyed, concrete curbs are full of tire marks and I saw an
almost new Revolution LE do over $5000 damage to her unit. There is one
in I think Indiana that the only way you can get out of the RV lane is
to disconnect your toad or drive on the curb. The curb is black like
tar. Fargo N.D. No Rv lane and if you pull in to the regular pumps you
may have to wait for parked cars in front of the store. Lots more like
this. I find that when in the Bird without a toad they are OK. But with
our 39 ft.DP and a Tacoma toad it is difficult.

Bruce 1988FC35

[robertnloomas]

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "birdshill123"
wrote:
>

I fuel in the truck area with no problem at any of the truck stops.
Bob Loomas 1985 PT 36

> Rob; Sorry I will have to disagree with you. I would have to get
out
> our diary but I can name all kinds of flying Js with RV lanes that
are
> next to useless including some of the new super J's: Albuquerque,
the
> RV's have to line up on the street as the island is very small.
When
> you exit the island you are right in the lane of all the 4
wheelers.
> Omaha, Nebraska: The RV lane does not have in line entry from the
road.
> You have to turn left real hard and then straighten out. The air
reel
> has been destroyed, concrete curbs are full of tire marks and I
saw an
> almost new Revolution LE do over $5000 damage to her unit. There
is one
> in I think Indiana that the only way you can get out of the RV
lane is
> to disconnect your toad or drive on the curb. The curb is black
like
> tar. Fargo N.D. No Rv lane and if you pull in to the regular pumps
you
> may have to wait for parked cars in front of the store. Lots more
like
> this. I find that when in the Bird without a toad they are OK. But
with
> our 39 ft.DP and a Tacoma toad it is difficult.
>
> Bruce 1988FC35
>

[davidkerryedwards]

Used the Flying J just south of Cheyenne on I-25 a couple of weeks
ago. RV lanes are as poorly designed as anything I have ever seen.
Allows one RV to wait behind the refueling one and then it backs up
into the road blocking all the trucks that need to go by to get to the
truck fueling. When I was there on Labor Day weekend the result was a
back up down the road, around the corner and down the next road, onto
the off ramp of I-25 and out in the right hand lane of I-25. VERY
dangerous.
Exit from the RV pumps required driving thru the car fueling station
if you were lucky enough not to have anyone parked in the parking
spaces which blocked exit from the pump if you had a toad. Dump
station required exiting the station, and getting back into line to
enter the station via the car entrance.
Kerry

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "birdshill123"
wrote:
>
> Rob; Sorry I will have to disagree with you. I would have to get out
> our diary but I can name all kinds of flying Js with RV lanes that are
> next to useless including some of the new super J's: Albuquerque, the
> RV's have to line up on the street as the island is very small. When
> you exit the island you are right in the lane of all the 4 wheelers.
> Omaha, Nebraska: The RV lane does not have in line entry from the road.
> You have to turn left real hard and then straighten out. The air reel
> has been destroyed, concrete curbs are full of tire marks and I saw an
> almost new Revolution LE do over $5000 damage to her unit. There is one
> in I think Indiana that the only way you can get out of the RV lane is
> to disconnect your toad or drive on the curb. The curb is black like
> tar. Fargo N.D. No Rv lane and if you pull in to the regular pumps you
> may have to wait for parked cars in front of the store. Lots more like
> this. I find that when in the Bird without a toad they are OK. But with
> our 39 ft.DP and a Tacoma toad it is difficult.
>
> Bruce 1988FC35
>

[Henry Jay Hannigan]

---Why go thru all that trouble with RV lane..just do as BOB LOOMIS
does..fill up in the truck lane as most of us do.........
rgards,
Hank Hannigan
90SP36...for sale in VEGAS..$75,000..#607 on birdconnection
80FC31..for sale in Port Charlotte, Florida...$28,000








In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "robertnloomas"
wrote:
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "birdshill123"
> wrote:
> >
>
> I fuel in the truck area with no problem at any of the truck stops.
> Bob Loomas 1985 PT 36
>
> > Rob; Sorry I will have to disagree with you. I would have to get
> out
> > our diary but I can name all kinds of flying Js with RV lanes
that
> are
> > next to useless including some of the new super J's:
Albuquerque,
> the
> > RV's have to line up on the street as the island is very small.
> When
> > you exit the island you are right in the lane of all the 4
> wheelers.
> > Omaha, Nebraska: The RV lane does not have in line entry from
the
> road.
> > You have to turn left real hard and then straighten out. The
air
> reel
> > has been destroyed, concrete curbs are full of tire marks and I
> saw an
> > almost new Revolution LE do over $5000 damage to her unit. There
> is one
> > in I think Indiana that the only way you can get out of the RV
> lane is
> > to disconnect your toad or drive on the curb. The curb is black
> like
> > tar. Fargo N.D. No Rv lane and if you pull in to the regular
pumps
> you
> > may have to wait for parked cars in front of the store. Lots
more
> like
> > this. I find that when in the Bird without a toad they are OK.
But
> with
> > our 39 ft.DP and a Tacoma toad it is difficult.
> >
> > Bruce 1988FC35
> >
>

[erniecarpet@...]

Flying J in Casper, Wy is a one way in and then you have to turn around to
get out. I did that once, and that was enough.

Ernie Ekberg
83 PT40
Livingston, Montana



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[Alex Smith]

Same problem at FJ on I-10 Tallahasseee/Midway. Two or Three RV's will totally
block the entrance requiring others (incl cars) to enter thru the divided exit
lane. See the all the time!
Alex Smith
82FC35
Tallahassee

davidkerryedwards wrote:
Used the Flying J just south of Cheyenne on I-25 a couple of weeks
ago. RV lanes are as poorly designed as anything I have ever seen.
Allows one RV to wait behind the refueling one and then it backs up
into the road blocking all the trucks that need to go by to get to the
truck fueling. When I was there on Labor Day weekend the result was a
back up down the road, around the corner and down the next road, onto
the off ramp of I-25 and out in the right hand lane of I-25. VERY
dangerous.
Exit from the RV pumps required driving thru the car fueling station
if you were lucky enough not to have anyone parked in the parking
spaces which blocked exit from the pump if you had a toad. Dump
station required exiting the station, and getting back into line to
enter the station via the car entrance.
Kerry

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "birdshill123"
wrote:
>
> Rob; Sorry I will have to disagree with you. I would have to get out
> our diary but I can name all kinds of flying Js with RV lanes that are
> next to useless including some of the new super J's: Albuquerque, the
> RV's have to line up on the street as the island is very small. When
> you exit the island you are right in the lane of all the 4 wheelers.
> Omaha, Nebraska: The RV lane does not have in line entry from the road.
> You have to turn left real hard and then straighten out. The air reel
> has been destroyed, concrete curbs are full of tire marks and I saw an
> almost new Revolution LE do over $5000 damage to her unit. There is one
> in I think Indiana that the only way you can get out of the RV lane is
> to disconnect your toad or drive on the curb. The curb is black like
> tar. Fargo N.D. No Rv lane and if you pull in to the regular pumps you
> may have to wait for parked cars in front of the store. Lots more like
> this. I find that when in the Bird without a toad they are OK. But with
> our 39 ft.DP and a Tacoma toad it is difficult.
>
> Bruce 1988FC35
>






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[Tom Warner]

Bruce this is simply not true about Flying Js not being designed for
traffic routing. Big trucks go in and out of their complexes 24 hours
aday and never have a problem. The problem is that many RV owners do
not know how to properly use the various lanes. Bluebird diesels
should be filling at the truck pumps not the RV pumps because of
their tank size. It will take a very long time to fill a 265 or 300
gallon tank on a BB at the RV pumps.
AS for the credit card companies they DO NOT impose any daily or per
use limits on your card. They do watch your credit limit on the card
and your spending pattern and if something outside those limits come
up they immediately contact you to confirm its you using the card for
a legitimate purpose. It it the fuel station owners that are imposing
these crazy limits on you. The solution, send an email to the fuel
company (shell, etc) and tell them how unhappy you are with this
problem at Shell oil station # XXx in Cortland NY etc. They will
respond if enough people do it.

However once again...get a flying J RV card and a major credit card
and these problems will cease to exist for you.

Tom Warner
Vernon Center,NY
1985 Bluebird

At 09:02 AM 9/16/2006, you wrote:
>You can get the FlyingJ discount card at any of their truck stops. The
>discount is a whopping 1/2 cent per gallon of diesel. Re the pumps
>stopping at $75.00: This is becoming more prevalant. THe credit card
>companies have done this as they claim that fraud at gas stations is a
>huge problem. This is due to the "pay at the pumps". I guess they
>figure if you pay inside there will be less fraud as the clerk can see
>you? At most Flying J's if you use the card and the RV fuel lane the
>pump will not stop. At any gas stop if you go inside and give them your
>CC the pump will not stop. I find that many of the Flying J's are not
>well designed for ingress and egress. If you have a toad many of the RV
>aisles are an accident waiting to happen.
>
>Bruce
>1988 FC35
>
>

[Larry]

Bruce,
One cent is better that no sense...
Sea Ya
Larry
Gonnabe
NYC

birdshill123 wrote:
Don is right and I was wrong. The discount is 1 cent per gallon. May as
well be zero.

Bruce

1988FC35







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[birdshill123]

>Larry: I am sorry but one cent is not a discount. If diesel fuel is
$3.00 a gallon then it amounts to 1/3 of 1 % discount. That is a joke.
But at least you get the cash price when using your credit card.

Bruce
1988 FC35

[Stephen Birtles]

this statement is not entirely true

They do watch your credit limit on the card
> and your spending pattern and if something outside those limits come
> up they immediately contact you to confirm its you using the card for
> a legitimate purpose.

the credit card companies MAY contact you to ascertain legitimate
purposes but not always and not everytime even exceeding your limit or
spending patterns.because it deals with algorithms and the computer if
the account is not flagged to someone's attention for inspection. The
purchases will go undetected and be allowed to continue. you would
only dfind out at billing time and it would be directly reflected on
your customer statement.
Now as for not knowing how to use various driving lanes in a
particular gas station that is simply not true. If a lane is marked RV
most people with an RV would probably drive in that lane if it marked
Truck most trucks drive in those lanes A lot of people try or use the
rv lanes be cause generally they are cleaner (no spilt fuel or oil)
there is sometimes a dumpstation with water and it is generally closer
to the coffee machine.
Most p[eople tend to go to the shortest line I think be it RV or truck
If you have a large gas powered Truck or bus you would be silly to
pull into the truck lanes at any Flying J or a number of other fuel
establishments there is simply no gas available there, you must use
the car lanes. Is that permitted? Sorry tom
Some rather educated have expressed their opinions on this subject and
it would seem to be going nowehere.
One solution is to prepay with cash and I very much doubt you would
ever hit a spending ceiling on any pump.
Lets change the thread and move on to fixing birds
Stephen 77fc35









In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Tom Warner wrote:
>
> Bruce this is simply not true about Flying Js not being designed for
> traffic routing. Big trucks go in and out of their complexes 24 hours
> aday and never have a problem. The problem is that many RV owners do
> not know how to properly use the various lanes. Bluebird diesels
> should be filling at the truck pumps not the RV pumps because of
> their tank size. It will take a very long time to fill a 265 or 300
> gallon tank on a BB at the RV pumps.
> AS for the credit card companies they DO NOT impose any daily or per
> use limits on your card. They do watch your credit limit on the card
> and your spending pattern and if something outside those limits come
> up they immediately contact you to confirm its you using the card for
> a legitimate purpose. It it the fuel station owners that are imposing
> these crazy limits on you. The solution, send an email to the fuel
> company (shell, etc) and tell them how unhappy you are with this
> problem at Shell oil station # XXx in Cortland NY etc. They will
> respond if enough people do it.
>
> However once again...get a flying J RV card and a major credit card
> and these problems will cease to exist for you.
>
> Tom Warner
> Vernon Center,NY
> 1985 Bluebird
>
> At 09:02 AM 9/16/2006, you wrote:
> >You can get the FlyingJ discount card at any of their truck stops. The
> >discount is a whopping 1/2 cent per gallon of diesel. Re the pumps
> >stopping at $75.00: This is becoming more prevalant. THe credit card
> >companies have done this as they claim that fraud at gas stations is a
> >huge problem. This is due to the "pay at the pumps". I guess they
> >figure if you pay inside there will be less fraud as the clerk can see
> >you? At most Flying J's if you use the card and the RV fuel lane the
> >pump will not stop. At any gas stop if you go inside and give them your
> >CC the pump will not stop. I find that many of the Flying J's are not
> >well designed for ingress and egress. If you have a toad many of the RV
> >aisles are an accident waiting to happen.
> >
> >Bruce
> >1988 FC35
> >
> >
>