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Follow up: 89-97 clearance lights and tail lights
10-09-2006, 13:47
Post: #1
Follow up: 89-97 clearance lights and tail lights
Earlier I wrote on the above topic. Here's the latest:

Clearance light: corroded socket. A little sand paper and it's now
back in operation. Not a very long-term solution, however. These are
the Peterson M126A lights (on the side of the coach). I've looked at
a bunch of LED models, but none are direct replacements. I can still
get the M126A model with a regular bulb. From the photos, it appears
to be an improved design that better protects the socket from
corrosion. Does anybody know of an LED model that's a direct
replacement for the Peterson M126A clearance lights?

Tail lights: No solution yet.
In testing today, I disconnected the connector for all the rear
lights and powered them with a small 12 v battery that I had
available. All lights operated as expected.

Testing the bus-side connector with the volt meter, I get 12.6 (or
so) volts for the turn signals, brake lights, back up lights, and
stop lights. I get 0.1 volt for the tail lights.

In front, I (think) I found the correct fuse. I had 12.6 volts at the
fuse.
I found (I'm sure) the terminal where the tail light wire heads for
the back of the bus. I had 0.1 volt on the terminal. (Head lights, a
couple of positions over from the tail lights had 12.6 volts.)

So, the problem is somewhere between the fuse and the terminal ... a
distance of six inches.

I can't seem to locate the relay -- and I suspect that there is one.
(More sweating over the wiring diagram tomorrow.)

Any ideas?

Pete Masterson
aeonix1@...
'95 Bluebird Wanderlodge WBDA 42'
El Sobrante, CA






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10-09-2006, 14:32
Post: #2
Follow up: 89-97 clearance lights and tail lights
Pete,

A while back there was some discussion about using LED's in place
of incandescent marking lights. Tom Warner came up with this rather
informative website describing some of the challenges with LED's.
http://tinyurl.com/9qcbp

David B
'02 LXi, Smokey
Va

Pete Masterson wrote:
> Earlier I wrote on the above topic. Here's the latest:
>
> Clearance light: corroded socket. A little sand paper and it's now
> back in operation. Not a very long-term solution, however. These are
> the Peterson M126A lights (on the side of the coach). I've looked at
> a bunch of LED models, but none are direct replacements. I can still
> get the M126A model with a regular bulb. From the photos, it appears
> to be an improved design that better protects the socket from
> corrosion. Does anybody know of an LED model that's a direct
> replacement for the Peterson M126A clearance lights?
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10-09-2006, 14:35
Post: #3
Follow up: 89-97 clearance lights and tail lights
Here's a good source for LED lighting:

http://www.vehiclelight.com/clli.html

David B
'02 LXi, Smokey
Va

Pete Masterson wrote:
> Earlier I wrote on the above topic. Here's the latest:
>
> Clearance light: corroded socket. A little sand paper and it's now
> back in operation. Not a very long-term solution, however. These are
> the Peterson M126A lights (on the side of the coach). I've looked at
> a bunch of LED models, but none are direct replacements. I can still
> get the M126A model with a regular bulb. From the photos, it appears
> to be an improved design that better protects the socket from
> corrosion. Does anybody know of an LED model that's a direct
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10-09-2006, 15:48
Post: #4
Follow up: 89-97 clearance lights and tail lights
the led clearance lights on older coach es are Maxxima m20321r or m20321y
newer coaches m20332r m20332y
we have the older coach style and will bring in the newer style if
demand warrants it

Stephen 77fc35



--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, David Brady wrote:
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> Here's a good source for LED lighting:
>
> http://www.vehiclelight.com/clli.html
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> David B
> '02 LXi, Smokey
> Va
>
> Pete Masterson wrote:
> > Earlier I wrote on the above topic. Here's the latest:
> >
> > Clearance light: corroded socket. A little sand paper and it's now
> > back in operation. Not a very long-term solution, however. These are
> > the Peterson M126A lights (on the side of the coach). I've looked at
> > a bunch of LED models, but none are direct replacements. I can still
> > get the M126A model with a regular bulb. From the photos, it appears
> > to be an improved design that better protects the socket from
> > corrosion. Does anybody know of an LED model that's a direct
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10-10-2006, 07:00
Post: #5
Follow up: 89-97 clearance lights and tail lights
Thanks. It's a good link ... It has some clearance lights that are
close to the same size as the Peterson M126A.

Pete Masterson
aeonix1@...
'95 Bluebird Wanderlodge WBDA 42'
El Sobrante, CA




On Oct 9, 2006, at 7:35 PM, David Brady wrote:

> Here's a good source for LED lighting:
>
> http://www.vehiclelight.com/clli.html
>
> David B
> '02 LXi, Smokey
> Va
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> Pete Masterson wrote:
>> Earlier I wrote on the above topic. Here's the latest:
>>
>> Clearance light: corroded socket. A little sand paper and it's now
>> back in operation. Not a very long-term solution, however. These are
>> the Peterson M126A lights (on the side of the coach). I've looked at
>> a bunch of LED models, but none are direct replacements. I can still
>> get the M126A model with a regular bulb. From the photos, it appears
>> to be an improved design that better protects the socket from
>> corrosion. Does anybody know of an LED model that's a direct



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10-10-2006, 09:18
Post: #6
Follow up: 89-97 clearance lights and tail lights
Doesn't look like the Maxxima are a close match. The Maxxima M20332Y
measure 6.1875" x 1.875" while the Peterson M126A measures 3.75" x
2.25" high. The extra width might not be a problem, but the smaller
height is likely to expose unattractive finish that was covered by
the M126A.

The lights in question aren't the end-cap lights, but rather are
those down the side of the coach. Total of 6 used, 3 on each side.

See <http://www.pmlights.com/products.cfm?cId...1&pId=1403> for
details.

Pete Masterson
aeonix1@...
'95 Bluebird Wanderlodge WBDA 42'
El Sobrante, CA




On Oct 9, 2006, at 8:48 PM, Stephen Birtles wrote:

> the led clearance lights on older coach es are Maxxima m20321r or
> m20321y
> newer coaches m20332r m20332y
> we have the older coach style and will bring in the newer style if
> demand warrants it
>
> Stephen 77fc35
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> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, David Brady
> wrote:
>>
>> Here's a good source for LED lighting:
>>
>> http://www.vehiclelight.com/clli.html
>>
>> David B
>> '02 LXi, Smokey
>> Va
>>
>> Pete Masterson wrote:
>>> Earlier I wrote on the above topic. Here's the latest:
>>>
>>> Clearance light: corroded socket. A little sand paper and it's now
>>> back in operation. Not a very long-term solution, however. These are
>>> the Peterson M126A lights (on the side of the coach). I've looked at
>>> a bunch of LED models, but none are direct replacements. I can still
>>> get the M126A model with a regular bulb. From the photos, it appears
>>> to be an improved design that better protects the socket from
>>> corrosion. Does anybody know of an LED model that's a direct
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10-10-2006, 10:26
Post: #7
Follow up: 89-97 clearance lights and tail lights
Jay Darst has a replacement light for the Peterson marker lights.
Howard Truitt

----- Original Message -----
From: Pete Masterson
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 5:18 PM
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Follow up: 89-97 clearance lights and tail
lights


Doesn't look like the Maxxima are a close match. The Maxxima M20332Y
measure 6.1875" x 1.875" while the Peterson M126A measures 3.75" x
2.25" high. The extra width might not be a problem, but the smaller
height is likely to expose unattractive finish that was covered by
the M126A.

The lights in question aren't the end-cap lights, but rather are
those down the side of the coach. Total of 6 used, 3 on each side.

See <http://www.pmlights.com/products.cfm?cId...1&pId=1403> for
details.

Pete Masterson
aeonix1@...
'95 Bluebird Wanderlodge WBDA 42'
El Sobrante, CA

On Oct 9, 2006, at 8:48 PM, Stephen Birtles wrote:

> the led clearance lights on older coach es are Maxxima m20321r or
> m20321y
> newer coaches m20332r m20332y
> we have the older coach style and will bring in the newer style if
> demand warrants it
>
> Stephen 77fc35
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>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, David Brady
> wrote:
>>
>> Here's a good source for LED lighting:
>>
>> http://www.vehiclelight.com/clli.html
>>
>> David B
>> '02 LXi, Smokey
>> Va
>>
>> Pete Masterson wrote:
>>> Earlier I wrote on the above topic. Here's the latest:
>>>
>>> Clearance light: corroded socket. A little sand paper and it's now
>>> back in operation. Not a very long-term solution, however. These are
>>> the Peterson M126A lights (on the side of the coach). I've looked at
>>> a bunch of LED models, but none are direct replacements. I can still
>>> get the M126A model with a regular bulb. From the photos, it appears
>>> to be an improved design that better protects the socket from
>>> corrosion. Does anybody know of an LED model that's a direct
>>>
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10-10-2006, 11:41
Post: #8
Follow up: 89-97 clearance lights and tail lights
Pete,

What you are looking for is Maxxima M20321Y it is a perfect match for the
M126A. It can be purchased from Rush truck centers who are Peterbuilt
dealers. I believe Birtles also has this available. Only difference is
this is a two wire unit not a single wire. I purchased two from Rush for
$8.33 each, but I believe Birtles has them for a little less. Size is
perfect down to hole locations.

Chet Geist
1981FC33, Austin, Texas


-----Original Message-----
From: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Pete Masterson
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 4:18 PM
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Follow up: 89-97 clearance lights and
tail lights


Doesn't look like the Maxxima are a close match. The Maxxima M20332Y
measure 6.1875" x 1.875" while the Peterson M126A measures 3.75" x
2.25" high. The extra width might not be a problem, but the smaller
height is likely to expose unattractive finish that was covered by
the M126A.

The lights in question aren't the end-cap lights, but rather are
those down the side of the coach. Total of 6 used, 3 on each side.

See <http://www.pmlights.com/products.cfm?cId...1&pId=1403> for
details.

Pete Masterson
aeonix1@...
'95 Bluebird Wanderlodge WBDA 42'
El Sobrante, CA

On Oct 9, 2006, at 8:48 PM, Stephen Birtles wrote:

> the led clearance lights on older coach es are Maxxima m20321r or
> m20321y
> newer coaches m20332r m20332y
> we have the older coach style and will bring in the newer style if
> demand warrants it
>
> Stephen 77fc35
>
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, David Brady
> wrote:
>>
>> Here's a good source for LED lighting:
>>
>> http://www.vehiclelight.com/clli.html
>>
>> David B
>> '02 LXi, Smokey
>> Va
>>
>> Pete Masterson wrote:
>>> Earlier I wrote on the above topic. Here's the latest:
>>>
>>> Clearance light: corroded socket. A little sand paper and it's now
>>> back in operation. Not a very long-term solution, however. These are
>>> the Peterson M126A lights (on the side of the coach). I've looked at
>>> a bunch of LED models, but none are direct replacements. I can still
>>> get the M126A model with a regular bulb. From the photos, it appears
>>> to be an improved design that better protects the socket from
>>> corrosion. Does anybody know of an LED model that's a direct
>>>
>>>
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10-10-2006, 12:05
Post: #9
Follow up: 89-97 clearance lights and tail lights
We have the 203210/y or r in stock the universal light or match for
the peterson 126a or the grote 47052red 47053 yellow trucklite 1571-3
or 1571d
it is the 20332y or r which is the light for the endcap of the newer
coaches -
Stephen 77fc35

-- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "chet geist" wrote:
>
> Pete,
>
> What you are looking for is Maxxima M20321Y it is a perfect match
for the
> M126A. It can be purchased from Rush truck centers who are Peterbuilt
> dealers. I believe Birtles also has this available. Only difference is
> this is a two wire unit not a single wire. I purchased two from Rush for
> $8.33 each, but I believe Birtles has them for a little less. Size is
> perfect down to hole locations.
>
> Chet Geist
> 1981FC33, Austin, Texas
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Pete Masterson
> Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 4:18 PM
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Follow up: 89-97 clearance
lights and
> tail lights
>
>
> Doesn't look like the Maxxima are a close match. The Maxxima M20332Y
> measure 6.1875" x 1.875" while the Peterson M126A measures 3.75" x
> 2.25" high. The extra width might not be a problem, but the smaller
> height is likely to expose unattractive finish that was covered by
> the M126A.
>
> The lights in question aren't the end-cap lights, but rather are
> those down the side of the coach. Total of 6 used, 3 on each side.
>
> See <http://www.pmlights.com/products.cfm?cId...1&pId=1403> for
> details.
>
> Pete Masterson
> aeonix1@...
> '95 Bluebird Wanderlodge WBDA 42'
> El Sobrante, CA
>
> On Oct 9, 2006, at 8:48 PM, Stephen Birtles wrote:
>
> > the led clearance lights on older coach es are Maxxima m20321r or
> > m20321y
> > newer coaches m20332r m20332y
> > we have the older coach style and will bring in the newer style if
> > demand warrants it
> >
> > Stephen 77fc35
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, David Brady
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Here's a good source for LED lighting:
> >>
> >> http://www.vehiclelight.com/clli.html
> >>
> >> David B
> >> '02 LXi, Smokey
> >> Va
> >>
> >> Pete Masterson wrote:
> >>> Earlier I wrote on the above topic. Here's the latest:
> >>>
> >>> Clearance light: corroded socket. A little sand paper and it's now
> >>> back in operation. Not a very long-term solution, however.
These are
> >>> the Peterson M126A lights (on the side of the coach). I've
looked at
> >>> a bunch of LED models, but none are direct replacements. I can
still
> >>> get the M126A model with a regular bulb. From the photos, it
appears
> >>> to be an improved design that better protects the socket from
> >>> corrosion. Does anybody know of an LED model that's a direct
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10-10-2006, 13:20
Post: #10
Follow up: 89-97 clearance lights and tail lights
I found that model on the Maxxima web site--and it looked promising,
but the "specs" page for it was without measurements. Thanks, I'll
contact Birtles for a price.

Pete Masterson
aeonix1@...
'95 Bluebird Wanderlodge WBDA 42'
El Sobrante, CA




On Oct 10, 2006, at 4:41 PM, chet geist wrote:

> Pete,
>
> What you are looking for is Maxxima M20321Y it is a perfect match
> for the
> M126A. It can be purchased from Rush truck centers who are Peterbuilt
> dealers. I believe Birtles also has this available. Only
> difference is
> this is a two wire unit not a single wire. I purchased two from
> Rush for
> $8.33 each, but I believe Birtles has them for a little less. Size is
> perfect down to hole locations.
>
> Chet Geist
> 1981FC33, Austin, Texas
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Pete Masterson
> Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 4:18 PM
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Follow up: 89-97 clearance
> lights and
> tail lights
>
>
> Doesn't look like the Maxxima are a close match. The Maxxima M20332Y
> measure 6.1875" x 1.875" while the Peterson M126A measures 3.75" x
> 2.25" high. The extra width might not be a problem, but the smaller
> height is likely to expose unattractive finish that was covered by
> the M126A.
>
> The lights in question aren't the end-cap lights, but rather are
> those down the side of the coach. Total of 6 used, 3 on each side.
>
> See <http://www.pmlights.com/products.cfm?cId...1&pId=1403> for
> details.
>
> Pete Masterson
> aeonix1@...
> '95 Bluebird Wanderlodge WBDA 42'
> El Sobrante, CA
>
> On Oct 9, 2006, at 8:48 PM, Stephen Birtles wrote:
>
>> the led clearance lights on older coach es are Maxxima m20321r or
>> m20321y
>> newer coaches m20332r m20332y
>> we have the older coach style and will bring in the newer style if
>> demand warrants it
>>
>> Stephen 77fc35
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>> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, David Brady
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Here's a good source for LED lighting:
>>>
>>> http://www.vehiclelight.com/clli.html
>>>
>>> David B
>>> '02 LXi, Smokey
>>> Va
>>>
>>> Pete Masterson wrote:
>>>> Earlier I wrote on the above topic. Here's the latest:
>>>>
>>>> Clearance light: corroded socket. A little sand paper and it's now
>>>> back in operation. Not a very long-term solution, however. These
>>>> are
>>>> the Peterson M126A lights (on the side of the coach). I've
>>>> looked at
>>>> a bunch of LED models, but none are direct replacements. I can
>>>> still
>>>> get the M126A model with a regular bulb. From the photos, it
>>>> appears
>>>> to be an improved design that better protects the socket from
>>>> corrosion. Does anybody know of an LED model that's a direct
>>>>
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