$600 radiator

[Bob Lawrence]

Hi group,

I can't seem to find the thread that stated someone got a new radiator
for $600.

I am thinking about replacing mine and was wondering where I could get
a new one for this price. I know I saw it on one of these forums, so
thought I would ask here first.

Thanks.
Bob Lawrence
84 PT36
Tacoma, Wa.

[car_go_van]

Hi Bob
You can give these guys a call. http://www.generalradiator.com/ I
have used them for 3 rads.
Allen Powell
88 PT40




-- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Lawrence"
wrote:
>
> Hi group,
>
> I can't seem to find the thread that stated someone got a new
radiator
> for $600.
>
> I am thinking about replacing mine and was wondering where I could
get
> a new one for this price. I know I saw it on one of these forums,
so
> thought I would ask here first.
>
> Thanks.
> Bob Lawrence
> 84 PT36
> Tacoma, Wa.
>

[erniecarpet@...]

Neil, can you tell us the brand of motor you used? On my coach, the rebuild
kit for the Danfoss motor is no longer available. I'm sure other early PTs will
be needing that eventually.

Ernie Ekberg
83 PT40
Livingston, Montana



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[erniecarpet@...]

A couple of years ago, the seal was leaking on my motor shaft. I bought the
last rebuild kit and it was a terrible job for Ralph, Bim and myself to get
that motor out without taking off the radiator. It can be done, but I think I
would trade the coach if i had to do it again.

Ernie Ekberg
83 PT40
Livingston, Montana



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[Pete Masterson]

The _core_ for my new radiator was around $800. The labor to remove
and replace the radiator was over $900. There are some charges for
putting the old 'ends' on the new core. If you're paying a radiator
service, expect charges above $2000 --- possibly way above. (Note
that my coach also has a charge-air radiator that had to be removed
and replaced at the same time even though it was not serviced.)

Depending on the size core needed for your coach, it may be less
expensive than mine. But unless you're doing a _lot_ of the work
yourself, it will most certainly cost much more than $600...

Pete Masterson
aeonix1@...
'95 Bluebird Wanderlodge WBDA 42'
El Sobrante, CA




On Oct 14, 2006, at 8:29 PM, Bob Lawrence wrote:

> Hi group,
>
> I can't seem to find the thread that stated someone got a new radiator
> for $600.
>
> I am thinking about replacing mine and was wondering where I could get
> a new one for this price. I know I saw it on one of these forums, so
> thought I would ask here first.
>
> Thanks.
> Bob Lawrence
> 84 PT36
> Tacoma, Wa.
>



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[Bob Lawrence]

Thanks, Allen,
I've sent them an email.
Bob
> Hi Bob
> You can give these guys a call. http://www.generalradiator.com/ I
> have used them for 3 rads.
> Allen Powell
> 88 PT40
>
>
>
>
> -- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Lawrence"
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi group,
> >
> > I can't seem to find the thread that stated someone got a new
> radiator
> > for $600.
> >
> > I am thinking about replacing mine and was wondering where I
could
> get
> > a new one for this price. I know I saw it on one of these
forums,
> so
> > thought I would ask here first.
> >
> > Thanks.
> > Bob Lawrence
> > 84 PT36
> > Tacoma, Wa.
> >
>

[Bob Lawrence]

Thanks, Pete.
Since we will be fulltiming in 11 months, thought about replacing
the rad, just cause it's over 22 years old. Where did you get the
core?
Bob Lawrence
84 PT36
Tacoma, Wa.
>
> The _core_ for my new radiator was around $800. The labor to
remove
> and replace the radiator was over $900. There are some charges
for
> putting the old 'ends' on the new core. If you're paying a
radiator
> service, expect charges above $2000 --- possibly way above. (Note
> that my coach also has a charge-air radiator that had to be
removed
> and replaced at the same time even though it was not serviced.)
>
> Depending on the size core needed for your coach, it may be less
> expensive than mine. But unless you're doing a _lot_ of the work
> yourself, it will most certainly cost much more than $600...
>
> Pete Masterson
> aeonix1@...
> '95 Bluebird Wanderlodge WBDA 42'
> El Sobrante, CA
>
>
>
>
> On Oct 14, 2006, at 8:29 PM, Bob Lawrence wrote:
>
> > Hi group,
> >
> > I can't seem to find the thread that stated someone got a new
radiator
> > for $600.
> >
> > I am thinking about replacing mine and was wondering where I
could get
> > a new one for this price. I know I saw it on one of these
forums, so
> > thought I would ask here first.
> >
> > Thanks.
> > Bob Lawrence
> > 84 PT36
> > Tacoma, Wa.
> >
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

[Pete Masterson]

I think it came from General Radiator (someone else mentioned them).
I contacted General Radiator and they gave me the name of a radiator
shop locally that uses their products. (I then checked out the
reputation of the local shop as well.) While labor and overhead rates
tend to be high in this part of California, it wasn't practical for
me to travel any distance for this work... so I went ahead and had
the radiator core replaced, the cooling system completely serviced,
and the chassis air serviced. (The previous owner had repaired and
upgraded it to Freon 134a.) With all the work that was done, the bill
came to nearly $4000.... but they had given me a pretty fair estimate
to start with and I was aware that this is one of the more expensive
things to upgrade. Besides, a new radiator is a better bet than to
risk a $20,000 engine rebuild.

The original radiator was heavily clogged with oily-dirt. I notice
that the oily fumes from the breather tube (also known as the
"slobber tube") are drawn under the edge of the coach and right back
into the fan when the coach is sitting at idle. On my "to do" list is
to rig up an extension to the breather tube so that it is routed away
from its current location. Unfortunately, I'm not too keen on routing
it to the rear bumper (to coat the front of my toad) so I'm still
pondering the possibilities ... probably I'll extend it under the
engine to the curb side...

Pete Masterson
aeonix1@...
'95 Bluebird Wanderlodge WBDA 42'
El Sobrante, CA




On Oct 15, 2006, at 12:25 PM, Bob Lawrence wrote:

> Thanks, Pete.
> Since we will be fulltiming in 11 months, thought about replacing
> the rad, just cause it's over 22 years old. Where did you get the
> core?
> Bob Lawrence
> 84 PT36
> Tacoma, Wa.
>>
>> The _core_ for my new radiator was around $800. The labor to
> remove
>> and replace the radiator was over $900. There are some charges
> for
>> putting the old 'ends' on the new core. If you're paying a
> radiator
>> service, expect charges above $2000 --- possibly way above. (Note
>> that my coach also has a charge-air radiator that had to be
> removed
>> and replaced at the same time even though it was not serviced.)
>>
>> Depending on the size core needed for your coach, it may be less
>> expensive than mine. But unless you're doing a _lot_ of the work
>> yourself, it will most certainly cost much more than $600...
>>
>> Pete Masterson
>> aeonix1@...
>> '95 Bluebird Wanderlodge WBDA 42'
>> El Sobrante, CA
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Oct 14, 2006, at 8:29 PM, Bob Lawrence wrote:
>>
>>> Hi group,
>>>
>>> I can't seem to find the thread that stated someone got a new
> radiator
>>> for $600.
>>>
>>> I am thinking about replacing mine and was wondering where I
> could get
>>> a new one for this price. I know I saw it on one of these
> forums, so
>>> thought I would ask here first.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>> Bob Lawrence
>>> 84 PT36
>>> Tacoma, Wa.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
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[Neil & Pat]

Hi Bob, I also have an 84 PT36 so I thought that I would share my sad
experience with the radiator on my rig. At about 140K miles the hydraulic
radiator fan motor broke at highway speed. That, of course freed that very
large propeller to fly into the radiator. By the time I was finished
repairing the damage the total was we above the $4000 level. The reason for
retelling this story is to relate that we (dealer and myself) were very
surprise to learn that BB had used a sleeve bearing type of hyd motor with
the manufacturer said was not of adequate capacity to handle the load of
that very large fan. At that point they said failure was inevitable. My
solution was to replace the motor with one using and roller (or ball, I
forget) bearing. You may want to consider my experience when you are in
there.

Regards,

Neil LeKander
Author “The RVer’s Ultimate Survival Guide”
author@...

Thanks, Pete.
Since we will be fulltiming in 11 months, thought about replacing
the rad, just cause it's over 22 years old. Where did you get the
core?
Bob Lawrence
84 PT36
Tacoma, Wa.
>
> The _core_ for my new radiator was around $800. The labor to
remove
> and replace the radiator was over $900. There are some charges
for
> putting the old 'ends' on the new core. If you're paying a
radiator
> service, expect charges above $2000 --- possibly way above. (Note
> that my coach also has a charge-air radiator that had to be
removed
> and replaced at the same time even though it was not serviced.)
>
> Depending on the size core needed for your coach, it may be less
> expensive than mine. But unless you're doing a _lot_ of the work
> yourself, it will most certainly cost much more than $600...
>
> Pete Masterson
> aeonix1@...
> '95 Bluebird Wanderlodge WBDA 42'
> El Sobrante, CA,_._,___


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[Neil & Pat]

Hi Ernie, I went into the rather large file on repairs and found that the
described work was done in 5-2002, at that time the hyd motor cost $983 and
the fan $323 and the rad core $1335 plus air frt shipping. The p/n listed
for the motor is 1260918 but there is no clue as to the manufacturer, sorry.
Needless to say there was a ton of labor involved in this effort, that’s why
I suggest that this is the time to consider the change.
Regards,

Neil LeKander
Author “The RVer’s Ultimate Survival Guide”
author@...

Neil, can you tell us the brand of motor you used? On my coach, the rebuild
kit for the Danfoss motor is no longer available. I'm sure other early PTs
will
be needing that eventually.




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