Motorhome bummer

[davidkerryedwards]

I sold my Travco on Wednesday to a nice gentleman from Atlanta who flew out to
drive it
home. He rolled it and totalled it not too far from Denver after a momet's
inattention put him
off the right side of the road. What a terrible experience. He was not hurt,
which is a credit
to the structural strength of the Travco, one of the main reasons I owned it
for such a long
time. He sold it to the tow company which is now selling it on Ebay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?
ViewItem&item=280045578643&ssPageName=ADME:B:EF:US:2

Be careful out there.

Kerry
82 FC 35
Denver

[erniecarpet@...]

Scott- when Brenda and I went to see Rick and Rosie Archies Wanderlodge II
that they had rolled- and survived, I marveled at the strength of a Bluebird.
And I got choked up - just thinking what could have happened to them~

Ernie Ekberg
83 PT40
Livingston, Montana



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[Scott]

Kerry, WOW... sorry to hear about the buyers misfortune. Thank
goodness no one was hurt, cept for pride and mebbe the pocket book. I
was thinking how you must feel after having the Travco for years
(looked very cool) and now seeing it in it's present condition. I
know given the same circumstances with all that I have done to our
coach how I would feel, heck I don't know how I would feel...given
the same circumstances. Thanks for the pics.

Scott B
86FC35 4SALE
SC

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "davidkerryedwards"
wrote:
>
> I sold my Travco on Wednesday to a nice gentleman from Atlanta who
flew out to drive it
> home. He rolled it and totalled it not too far from Denver after a
momet's inattention put him
> off the right side of the road. What a terrible experience. He
was not hurt, which is a credit
> to the structural strength of the Travco, one of the main reasons
I owned it for such a long
> time. He sold it to the tow company which is now selling it on
Ebay:
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?
> ViewItem&item=280045578643&ssPageName=ADME:B:EF:US:2
>
> Be careful out there.
>
> Kerry
> 82 FC 35
> Denver
>

[davidkerryedwards]

It is sad to see a vehicle that survived 35 yrs in good condition, meet its
demise. The new
owner was in remarkably good spirits given the situation. He didn't have
collision
insurance, but having been in a rolled vehicle myself a number of years ago, I
know the
feeling of surviving intact is pretty good. I hope someone either picks up a
lot of good
parts or takes on the much bigger job of repairing it. I have a lot of good
memories
associated with that vehicle.

Kerry
82 FC 35
Denver

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Scott" wrote:
>
> Kerry, WOW... sorry to hear about the buyers misfortune. Thank
> goodness no one was hurt, cept for pride and mebbe the pocket book. I
> was thinking how you must feel after having the Travco for years
> (looked very cool) and now seeing it in it's present condition. I
> know given the same circumstances with all that I have done to our
> coach how I would feel, heck I don't know how I would feel...given
> the same circumstances. Thanks for the pics.
>
> Scott B
> 86FC35 4SALE
> SC
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "davidkerryedwards"
> wrote:
> >
> > I sold my Travco on Wednesday to a nice gentleman from Atlanta who
> flew out to drive it
> > home. He rolled it and totalled it not too far from Denver after a
> momet's inattention put him
> > off the right side of the road. What a terrible experience. He
> was not hurt, which is a credit
> > to the structural strength of the Travco, one of the main reasons
> I owned it for such a long
> > time. He sold it to the tow company which is now selling it on
> Ebay:
> >
> > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?
> > ViewItem&item=280045578643&ssPageName=ADME:B:EF:US:2
> >
> > Be careful out there.
> >
> > Kerry
> > 82 FC 35
> > Denver
> >
>

[William Jensen]

Kerry:

I have also seen other Travco's rolled and survive to drive again. I
had 2 Travco's prior to my bird. Had a 76 22' L'espirt, and a 75
320. Sold the 32 footer to get my bird. I was at the factory in
Brown City, MI, in the 70's and saw how good those coaches are put
together. They were years ahead of other coaches for structure
saftey. Brown City, MI is the same town where Xplorer's came from.

Glad to hear the buyer was not hurt. I know I feel much safer in the
Bird than I did in the Travco, but the Travco got better gas
mileage.

William Jensen
1993 PT40 WBWL
Deerfield Beach, FL

[Gardner Yeaw]

Kerry and the rest of the forum members,
What I am getting from this thread is that once you hit the soft
turf on the side of the road you are very likley to have a
rollover. I can understantd the physics, but hoped there might be
ways to handle the situation. Any advise would be appreciated. I
know that after reading the proper way to handle a steer tire
blowout I was very glad I took the time to read the document. Are
there similar techniques to handle soft turf?

Gardner
78FC33

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "davidkerryedwards"
wrote:
>
> I sold my Travco on Wednesday to a nice gentleman from Atlanta who
flew out to drive it
> home. He rolled it and totalled it not too far from Denver after
a momet's inattention put him
> off the right side of the road. What a terrible experience. He
was not hurt, which is a credit
> to the structural strength of the Travco, one of the main reasons
I owned it for such a long
> time. He sold it to the tow company which is now selling it on
Ebay:
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?
> ViewItem&item=280045578643&ssPageName=ADME:B:EF:US:2
>
> Be careful out there.
>
> Kerry
> 82 FC 35
> Denver
>

[davidkerryedwards]

Having been in a Toyota FJ 55 when my wife went off the road and rolled it, and
talking to
the owner of my old Travco, the same mistake was made in both instances: They
both
aggressively tried to get back on the road, which results in the vehicle
shooting fast to the
left once the pressure needed to get back on the road over the edge of the
blacktop is
overcome. This momentum easily leads to a rollover. In both instances it would
have
been far better to simply ride out the problem with the right wheels off the
shoulder.
Don't try to jerk the vehicle back onto the roadway. If you have to get back on
the road
due to an impending obstacle such as a bridge abutment or something, be prepared
to
immediately counteract the tendency to turn sharply to the left upon regaining
the
roadway.

Kerry
82 Fc 35
Denver

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Gardner Yeaw" wrote:
>
> Kerry and the rest of the forum members,
> What I am getting from this thread is that once you hit the soft
> turf on the side of the road you are very likley to have a
> rollover. I can understantd the physics, but hoped there might be
> ways to handle the situation. Any advise would be appreciated. I
> know that after reading the proper way to handle a steer tire
> blowout I was very glad I took the time to read the document. Are
> there similar techniques to handle soft turf?
>
> Gardner
> 78FC33
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "davidkerryedwards"
> wrote:
> >
> > I sold my Travco on Wednesday to a nice gentleman from Atlanta who
> flew out to drive it
> > home. He rolled it and totalled it not too far from Denver after
> a momet's inattention put him
> > off the right side of the road. What a terrible experience. He
> was not hurt, which is a credit
> > to the structural strength of the Travco, one of the main reasons
> I owned it for such a long
> > time. He sold it to the tow company which is now selling it on
> Ebay:
> >
> > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?
> > ViewItem&item=280045578643&ssPageName=ADME:B:EF:US:2
> >
> > Be careful out there.
> >
> > Kerry
> > 82 FC 35
> > Denver
> >
>

[Gregory OConnor]

Gardner, Older vehicles don't react like newer vehicles. The tragic
situation started when a Moron got behind the wheel. Even his
reaction reveals a lack of responsibility and shame. Jersey DMV has
a motto "a good driver operates a safe car." I hope the guy gets a
Camper he can control, and we will all be safe. I had a Travco and
believe that the camper is now where it belongs.
I had some classic 1976 state of the art performance cars that don't
even perform and handle as well as a modern 2006 Ford Focus. Today's
traffic pushes older vehicles to keep up a pace that is too fast for
their capabilities. Faced with the situation I would not drive a
vehicle closer to forward traffic than I could stop it or enter a
curve faster than I could control it. Once you leave the road your
mind set should be stopping, not returning to the street. Realize
your limits and Don't let traffic push you to speeds past them.
People like you that consider a reaction rarely get caught up in the
situation.
Gregory O'Connor
94ptRomolandCa

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "davidkerryedwards"
wrote:
>
> It is sad to see a vehicle that survived 35 yrs in good condition,
meet its demise. The new
> owner was in remarkably good spirits given the situation. He
didn't have collision
> insurance, but having been in a rolled vehicle myself a number of
years ago, I know the
> feeling of surviving intact is pretty good. I hope someone either
picks up a lot of good
> parts or takes on the much bigger job of repairing it. I have a
lot of good memories
> associated with that vehicle.
>
> Kerry
> 82 FC 35
> Denver
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Scott" wrote:
> >
> > Kerry, WOW... sorry to hear about the buyers misfortune. Thank
> > goodness no one was hurt, cept for pride and mebbe the pocket
book. I
> > was thinking how you must feel after having the Travco for years
> > (looked very cool) and now seeing it in it's present condition. I
> > know given the same circumstances with all that I have done to
our
> > coach how I would feel, heck I don't know how I would
feel...given
> > the same circumstances. Thanks for the pics.
> >
> > Scott B
> > 86FC35 4SALE
> > SC
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "davidkerryedwards"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > I sold my Travco on Wednesday to a nice gentleman from Atlanta
who
> > flew out to drive it
> > > home. He rolled it and totalled it not too far from Denver
after a
> > momet's inattention put him
> > > off the right side of the road. What a terrible experience.
He
> > was not hurt, which is a credit
> > > to the structural strength of the Travco, one of the main
reasons
> > I owned it for such a long
> > > time. He sold it to the tow company which is now selling it on
> > Ebay:
> > >
> > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?
> > > ViewItem&item=280045578643&ssPageName=ADME:B:EF:US:2
> > >
> > > Be careful out there.
> > >
> > > Kerry
> > > 82 FC 35
> > > Denver
> > >
> >
>

[Dan]

Gregory, I disagree. In a wanderlodge you have to get off of a soft shoulder.
It you stop you will roll over. Get back on the road, then get things
stabilized,
Dan
----- Original Message -----
From: Gregory OConnor
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 9:56 AM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Motorhome bummer


Gardner, Older vehicles don't react like newer vehicles. The tragic
situation started when a Moron got behind the wheel. Even his
reaction reveals a lack of responsibility and shame. Jersey DMV has
a motto "a good driver operates a safe car." I hope the guy gets a
Camper he can control, and we will all be safe. I had a Travco and
believe that the camper is now where it belongs.
I had some classic 1976 state of the art performance cars that don't
even perform and handle as well as a modern 2006 Ford Focus. Today's
traffic pushes older vehicles to keep up a pace that is too fast for
their capabilities. Faced with the situation I would not drive a
vehicle closer to forward traffic than I could stop it or enter a
curve faster than I could control it. Once you leave the road your
mind set should be stopping, not returning to the street. Realize
your limits and Don't let traffic push you to speeds past them.
People like you that consider a reaction rarely get caught up in the
situation.
Gregory O'Connor
94ptRomolandCa

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "davidkerryedwards"
wrote:
>
> It is sad to see a vehicle that survived 35 yrs in good condition,
meet its demise. The new
> owner was in remarkably good spirits given the situation. He
didn't have collision
> insurance, but having been in a rolled vehicle myself a number of
years ago, I know the
> feeling of surviving intact is pretty good. I hope someone either
picks up a lot of good
> parts or takes on the much bigger job of repairing it. I have a
lot of good memories
> associated with that vehicle.
>
> Kerry
> 82 FC 35
> Denver
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Scott" wrote:
> >
> > Kerry, WOW... sorry to hear about the buyers misfortune. Thank
> > goodness no one was hurt, cept for pride and mebbe the pocket
book. I
> > was thinking how you must feel after having the Travco for years
> > (looked very cool) and now seeing it in it's present condition. I
> > know given the same circumstances with all that I have done to
our
> > coach how I would feel, heck I don't know how I would
feel...given
> > the same circumstances. Thanks for the pics.
> >
> > Scott B
> > 86FC35 4SALE
> > SC
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "davidkerryedwards"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > I sold my Travco on Wednesday to a nice gentleman from Atlanta
who
> > flew out to drive it
> > > home. He rolled it and totalled it not too far from Denver
after a
> > momet's inattention put him
> > > off the right side of the road. What a terrible experience.
He
> > was not hurt, which is a credit
> > > to the structural strength of the Travco, one of the main
reasons
> > I owned it for such a long
> > > time. He sold it to the tow company which is now selling it on
> > Ebay:
> > >
> > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?
> > > ViewItem&item=280045578643&ssPageName=ADME:B:EF:US:2
> > >
> > > Be careful out there.
> > >
> > > Kerry
> > > 82 FC 35
> > > Denver
> > >
> >
>






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[Gardner Yeaw]

Greg,
My first experience driving a Bird was with Randy Dupree sitting
behind me. He gave me just a couple of tips that cover the whole
thing. Stay off the sholder, begin braking well in advance, and you
can go too slow forever, but you can only go too fast once.

These simple rules are always in the forefront when I am driving
the Bird. It is really just keeping mindset.

Oh yea, one more rule, Watch out for a&%$holes.

Gardner
78FC33

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Gregory OConnor"
wrote:
>
> Gardner, Older vehicles don't react like newer vehicles. The
tragic
> situation started when a Moron got behind the wheel. Even his
> reaction reveals a lack of responsibility and shame. Jersey DMV
has
> a motto "a good driver operates a safe car." I hope the guy gets a
> Camper he can control, and we will all be safe. I had a Travco and
> believe that the camper is now where it belongs.
> I had some classic 1976 state of the art performance cars that
don't
> even perform and handle as well as a modern 2006 Ford Focus.
Today's
> traffic pushes older vehicles to keep up a pace that is too fast
for
> their capabilities. Faced with the situation I would not drive a
> vehicle closer to forward traffic than I could stop it or enter a
> curve faster than I could control it. Once you leave the road your
> mind set should be stopping, not returning to the street. Realize
> your limits and Don't let traffic push you to speeds past them.
> People like you that consider a reaction rarely get caught up in
the
> situation.
> Gregory O'Connor
> 94ptRomolandCa
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "davidkerryedwards"
> wrote:
> >
> > It is sad to see a vehicle that survived 35 yrs in good
condition,
> meet its demise. The new
> > owner was in remarkably good spirits given the situation. He
> didn't have collision
> > insurance, but having been in a rolled vehicle myself a number of
> years ago, I know the
> > feeling of surviving intact is pretty good. I hope someone
either
> picks up a lot of good
> > parts or takes on the much bigger job of repairing it. I have a
> lot of good memories
> > associated with that vehicle.
> >
> > Kerry
> > 82 FC 35
> > Denver
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Scott"
wrote:
> > >
> > > Kerry, WOW... sorry to hear about the buyers misfortune. Thank
> > > goodness no one was hurt, cept for pride and mebbe the pocket
> book. I
> > > was thinking how you must feel after having the Travco for
years
> > > (looked very cool) and now seeing it in it's present condition.
I
> > > know given the same circumstances with all that I have done to
> our
> > > coach how I would feel, heck I don't know how I would
> feel...given
> > > the same circumstances. Thanks for the pics.
> > >
> > > Scott B
> > > 86FC35 4SALE
> > > SC
> > >
> > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "davidkerryedwards"
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I sold my Travco on Wednesday to a nice gentleman from
Atlanta
> who
> > > flew out to drive it
> > > > home. He rolled it and totalled it not too far from Denver
> after a
> > > momet's inattention put him
> > > > off the right side of the road. What a terrible
experience.
> He
> > > was not hurt, which is a credit
> > > > to the structural strength of the Travco, one of the main
> reasons
> > > I owned it for such a long
> > > > time. He sold it to the tow company which is now selling it
on
> > > Ebay:
> > > >
> > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?
> > > > ViewItem&item=280045578643&ssPageName=ADME:B:EF:US:2
> > > >
> > > > Be careful out there.
> > > >
> > > > Kerry
> > > > 82 FC 35
> > > > Denver
> > > >
> > >
> >
>