That pesky Sporlan valve....

[doug_ngl]

Hi Folks,
Well, Lee and I made it home from Tampa to Colorado with the bus
without a hitch. There are a few items that need attention, but I have
come to accept that this is probably the way of these beasts...it is a
love/hate relationship without a doubt.
I did the air blowout of all the waterlines on the way home, but
decided to run a little RV antifreeze through the lines just to be
safe. I pumped some AF into the holding tank and the tried to purge it
through the system with air. I blew a bunch of my precious AF out the
fill connection. Does this sound like a stuck/clogged Sporlan?? Any
thoughts?? Outside switch was set to "off" (not fill), and flipping
the inside purge switch did not seem to have any effect. I finally
just connected a hose to the outside connection, folded it double to
cut off the escaping air/AF and then got the system to purge.
On another note, my genset that workrd fine the last time we ran it
now will start and run while the switch is held in teh "start"
postiion, but then die when released to "run". I went outside and
started it from teh outside remote and it will run if I hold the
linkage off the stop, but dies if left to its own devices. Has anyone
ever had a switch "stick" (electrically) in the "stop" position and
had this situation. I suppose it could be any of several electrical
gremlins, but it ran fine and now it won't unless you hold its hand,
so to speak. While running, it does produce power...any thoughts?
Thanks as always, Doug Engel, Gunnison, CO 1981 FC35

[Leroy Eckert]

Doug:
Disconnect the overtemp sender and see if it will run without assistance. If
so, the sender is bad or grounded someway. If not, one of the switches may be
stuck in the stop position. I had this problem with my overtemp sender.

Leroy Eckert
1990 WB-40 "Smoke N Mirrors"
Niceville, FL
Leaving for Tampa AM




----- Original Message -----
From: doug_ngl
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 2:15 PM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] That pesky Sporlan valve....


Hi Folks,
Well, Lee and I made it home from Tampa to Colorado with the bus
without a hitch. There are a few items that need attention, but I have
come to accept that this is probably the way of these beasts...it is a
love/hate relationship without a doubt.
I did the air blowout of all the waterlines on the way home, but
decided to run a little RV antifreeze through the lines just to be
safe. I pumped some AF into the holding tank and the tried to purge it
through the system with air. I blew a bunch of my precious AF out the
fill connection. Does this sound like a stuck/clogged Sporlan?? Any
thoughts?? Outside switch was set to "off" (not fill), and flipping
the inside purge switch did not seem to have any effect. I finally
just connected a hose to the outside connection, folded it double to
cut off the escaping air/AF and then got the system to purge.
On another note, my genset that workrd fine the last time we ran it
now will start and run while the switch is held in teh "start"
postiion, but then die when released to "run". I went outside and
started it from teh outside remote and it will run if I hold the
linkage off the stop, but dies if left to its own devices. Has anyone
ever had a switch "stick" (electrically) in the "stop" position and
had this situation. I suppose it could be any of several electrical
gremlins, but it ran fine and now it won't unless you hold its hand,
so to speak. While running, it does produce power...any thoughts?
Thanks as always, Doug Engel, Gunnison, CO 1981 FC35






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[davidkerryedwards]

I'm not sure if your symptoms are consistent with its failure, but there is a
low oil pressure
sending switch on the generator that could be failing. Welcome home. Which way
did you
drive home and how did it do over the passes?

Kerry
82 FC 35
Denver

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Leroy Eckert" wrote:
>
> Doug:
> Disconnect the overtemp sender and see if it will run without assistance. If
so, the
sender is bad or grounded someway. If not, one of the switches may be stuck in
the stop
position. I had this problem with my overtemp sender.
>
> Leroy Eckert
> 1990 WB-40 "Smoke N Mirrors"
> Niceville, FL
> Leaving for Tampa AM
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: doug_ngl
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 2:15 PM
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] That pesky Sporlan valve....
>
>
> Hi Folks,
> Well, Lee and I made it home from Tampa to Colorado with the bus
> without a hitch. There are a few items that need attention, but I have
> come to accept that this is probably the way of these beasts...it is a
> love/hate relationship without a doubt.
> I did the air blowout of all the waterlines on the way home, but
> decided to run a little RV antifreeze through the lines just to be
> safe. I pumped some AF into the holding tank and the tried to purge it
> through the system with air. I blew a bunch of my precious AF out the
> fill connection. Does this sound like a stuck/clogged Sporlan?? Any
> thoughts?? Outside switch was set to "off" (not fill), and flipping
> the inside purge switch did not seem to have any effect. I finally
> just connected a hose to the outside connection, folded it double to
> cut off the escaping air/AF and then got the system to purge.
> On another note, my genset that workrd fine the last time we ran it
> now will start and run while the switch is held in teh "start"
> postiion, but then die when released to "run". I went outside and
> started it from teh outside remote and it will run if I hold the
> linkage off the stop, but dies if left to its own devices. Has anyone
> ever had a switch "stick" (electrically) in the "stop" position and
> had this situation. I suppose it could be any of several electrical
> gremlins, but it ran fine and now it won't unless you hold its hand,
> so to speak. While running, it does produce power...any thoughts?
> Thanks as always, Doug Engel, Gunnison, CO 1981 FC35
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

[davidkerryedwards]

There should be a backflow prevention valve right at the hose hookup. Mine
failed too so I
just bought a brass hose shut off attachment and screwed it into the hose
attachment and
I can now shut off the water system manually. I dont think a failed Sporlan
would let water
blow out of the fill hook-up.

Kerry
82 Fc 35
Denver

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "doug_ngl" wrote:
>
> Hi Folks,
> Well, Lee and I made it home from Tampa to Colorado with the bus
> without a hitch. There are a few items that need attention, but I have
> come to accept that this is probably the way of these beasts...it is a
> love/hate relationship without a doubt.
> I did the air blowout of all the waterlines on the way home, but
> decided to run a little RV antifreeze through the lines just to be
> safe. I pumped some AF into the holding tank and the tried to purge it
> through the system with air. I blew a bunch of my precious AF out the
> fill connection. Does this sound like a stuck/clogged Sporlan?? Any
> thoughts?? Outside switch was set to "off" (not fill), and flipping
> the inside purge switch did not seem to have any effect. I finally
> just connected a hose to the outside connection, folded it double to
> cut off the escaping air/AF and then got the system to purge.
> On another note, my genset that workrd fine the last time we ran it
> now will start and run while the switch is held in teh "start"
> postiion, but then die when released to "run". I went outside and
> started it from teh outside remote and it will run if I hold the
> linkage off the stop, but dies if left to its own devices. Has anyone
> ever had a switch "stick" (electrically) in the "stop" position and
> had this situation. I suppose it could be any of several electrical
> gremlins, but it ran fine and now it won't unless you hold its hand,
> so to speak. While running, it does produce power...any thoughts?
> Thanks as always, Doug Engel, Gunnison, CO 1981 FC35
>

[Howard O. Truitt]

Doug,
Congratulations on your new to you Bird and the safe trip home. And welcome to
the pleasure and challenge of owning a "Grand Old Bird".
Howard Truitt
Camilla, Ga.
86 8V92 PT40
"Under The Rainbow"



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[Jay Darst]

Doug,

Is your generator a diesel Perkins/Kohler 12.5KW?

If so, my gen has a little spring that holds the throttle open
against an adjustment screw. I once had a problem with the spring
(broke) and the gen wouldn't stay running. Replaced the spring and
it ran fine again.

I am guessing on the Sporlan Valve having an affect on the shore
water connection.

If the sporlan valve is open, allowing flow from the shore water
connection into the tank, seems as though if air pressure were
introduced into the water system, that fluid would try to escape the
air pressure. Therefore, my guess is the sporlan is hung open on a
little crumb OR the 1-way valve on the shore inlet has a crumb in it.

Jay Darst
85PT40
Springfield, IL



--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "doug_ngl"
wrote:
>
> Hi Folks,
> Well, Lee and I made it home from Tampa to Colorado with the bus
> without a hitch. There are a few items that need attention, but I
have
> come to accept that this is probably the way of these beasts...it
is a
> love/hate relationship without a doubt.
> I did the air blowout of all the waterlines on the way home, but
> decided to run a little RV antifreeze through the lines just to be
> safe. I pumped some AF into the holding tank and the tried to
purge it
> through the system with air. I blew a bunch of my precious AF out
the
> fill connection. Does this sound like a stuck/clogged Sporlan??
Any
> thoughts?? Outside switch was set to "off" (not fill), and
flipping
> the inside purge switch did not seem to have any effect. I finally
> just connected a hose to the outside connection, folded it double
to
> cut off the escaping air/AF and then got the system to purge.
> On another note, my genset that workrd fine the last time we ran
it
> now will start and run while the switch is held in teh "start"
> postiion, but then die when released to "run". I went outside and
> started it from teh outside remote and it will run if I hold the
> linkage off the stop, but dies if left to its own devices. Has
anyone
> ever had a switch "stick" (electrically) in the "stop" position
and
> had this situation. I suppose it could be any of several
electrical
> gremlins, but it ran fine and now it won't unless you hold its
hand,
> so to speak. While running, it does produce power...any thoughts?
> Thanks as always, Doug Engel, Gunnison, CO 1981 FC35
>

[Doug Engel]

Kerry,
Considered that (low oil pressure sending unit) and plan to check it out the
weekend. We came home over Raton, LaVeta, and Cochetopa passes. Slow...really
slow...20MPH. Good oil pressure, no overheating, but quite a grunt, especially
the last one (11K'+). If we keep her, a repower may be in the future. Thanks for
the suggestion and the welcome home wishes, Doug

davidkerryedwards wrote:
I'm not sure if your symptoms are consistent with its failure, but
there is a low oil pressure
sending switch on the generator that could be failing. Welcome home. Which way
did you
drive home and how did it do over the passes?

Kerry
82 FC 35
Denver

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Leroy Eckert" wrote:
>
> Doug:
> Disconnect the overtemp sender and see if it will run without assistance. If
so, the
sender is bad or grounded someway. If not, one of the switches may be stuck in
the stop
position. I had this problem with my overtemp sender.
>
> Leroy Eckert
> 1990 WB-40 "Smoke N Mirrors"
> Niceville, FL
> Leaving for Tampa AM
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: doug_ngl
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 2:15 PM
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] That pesky Sporlan valve....
>
>
> Hi Folks,
> Well, Lee and I made it home from Tampa to Colorado with the bus
> without a hitch. There are a few items that need attention, but I have
> come to accept that this is probably the way of these beasts...it is a
> love/hate relationship without a doubt.
> I did the air blowout of all the waterlines on the way home, but
> decided to run a little RV antifreeze through the lines just to be
> safe. I pumped some AF into the holding tank and the tried to purge it
> through the system with air. I blew a bunch of my precious AF out the
> fill connection. Does this sound like a stuck/clogged Sporlan?? Any
> thoughts?? Outside switch was set to "off" (not fill), and flipping
> the inside purge switch did not seem to have any effect. I finally
> just connected a hose to the outside connection, folded it double to
> cut off the escaping air/AF and then got the system to purge.
> On another note, my genset that workrd fine the last time we ran it
> now will start and run while the switch is held in teh "start"
> postiion, but then die when released to "run". I went outside and
> started it from teh outside remote and it will run if I hold the
> linkage off the stop, but dies if left to its own devices. Has anyone
> ever had a switch "stick" (electrically) in the "stop" position and
> had this situation. I suppose it could be any of several electrical
> gremlins, but it ran fine and now it won't unless you hold its hand,
> so to speak. While running, it does produce power...any thoughts?
> Thanks as always, Doug Engel, Gunnison, CO 1981 FC35
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>






Doug Engel, Gunnison, CO. 1981 FC35SB "Pokey"

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[Doug Engel]

Howard, Thanks for the good wishes. We really like the bus, but the lack of
power at our altitude has us considering a sale and looking for another rig (or
maybe a repower). They really are fantasic rigs, and all the attention is pretty
neat as well. Doug

"Howard O. Truitt" wrote: Doug,
Congratulations on your new to you Bird and the safe trip home. And welcome to
the pleasure and challenge of owning a "Grand Old Bird".
Howard Truitt
Camilla, Ga.
86 8V92 PT40
"Under The Rainbow"

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Doug Engel, Gunnison, CO. 1981 FC35SB "Pokey"

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[Doug Engel]

Jay, The genset is a Perkins, I'll look at the spring situation and
Sporlan/check valve this weekend and post an update. Doug

Jay Darst wrote: Doug,

Is your generator a diesel Perkins/Kohler 12.5KW?

If so, my gen has a little spring that holds the throttle open
against an adjustment screw. I once had a problem with the spring
(broke) and the gen wouldn't stay running. Replaced the spring and
it ran fine again.

I am guessing on the Sporlan Valve having an affect on the shore
water connection.

If the sporlan valve is open, allowing flow from the shore water
connection into the tank, seems as though if air pressure were
introduced into the water system, that fluid would try to escape the
air pressure. Therefore, my guess is the sporlan is hung open on a
little crumb OR the 1-way valve on the shore inlet has a crumb in it.

Jay Darst
85PT40
Springfield, IL

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "doug_ngl"
wrote:
>
> Hi Folks,
> Well, Lee and I made it home from Tampa to Colorado with the bus
> without a hitch. There are a few items that need attention, but I
have
> come to accept that this is probably the way of these beasts...it
is a
> love/hate relationship without a doubt.
> I did the air blowout of all the waterlines on the way home, but
> decided to run a little RV antifreeze through the lines just to be
> safe. I pumped some AF into the holding tank and the tried to
purge it
> through the system with air. I blew a bunch of my precious AF out
the
> fill connection. Does this sound like a stuck/clogged Sporlan??
Any
> thoughts?? Outside switch was set to "off" (not fill), and
flipping
> the inside purge switch did not seem to have any effect. I finally
> just connected a hose to the outside connection, folded it double
to
> cut off the escaping air/AF and then got the system to purge.
> On another note, my genset that workrd fine the last time we ran
it
> now will start and run while the switch is held in teh "start"
> postiion, but then die when released to "run". I went outside and
> started it from teh outside remote and it will run if I hold the
> linkage off the stop, but dies if left to its own devices. Has
anyone
> ever had a switch "stick" (electrically) in the "stop" position
and
> had this situation. I suppose it could be any of several
electrical
> gremlins, but it ran fine and now it won't unless you hold its
hand,
> so to speak. While running, it does produce power...any thoughts?
> Thanks as always, Doug Engel, Gunnison, CO 1981 FC35
>






Doug Engel, Gunnison, CO. 1981 FC35SB "Pokey"

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[davidkerryedwards]

I've been over Raton with mine but not any higher passes yet. Not a speedster.
I was down to
20mph on some hills in the Appalachians this summer. Mine has an aftermarket
turbo on an
NA. Are you thinking of repowering with a 3208T? It would be interesting to
put two Birds,
one turbo and one NA at the bottom of the pass and see how far ahead the turbo
is at the
top.

Kerry
82 FC 35
Denvr

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Doug Engel wrote:
>
> Kerry,
> Considered that (low oil pressure sending unit) and plan to check it out
the weekend. We
came home over Raton, LaVeta, and Cochetopa passes. Slow...really slow...20MPH.
Good oil
pressure, no overheating, but quite a grunt, especially the last one (11K'+). If
we keep her, a
repower may be in the future. Thanks for the suggestion and the welcome home
wishes,
Doug