Space Ship TV Antenna

[Leroy Eckert]

Thanks to all for the response:
Just off a lengthy conversation with DISH. This is what I was told.
1. Distant local channel service is discontinued effective Dec 1, 2006. They
get you on a periodic download and that is what happened to me on Saturday.
2. You will not be able to pick up your home base local channels outside 200
miles(approx). Spot Beam in use. During the conversation I gave the tech the
following zip codes followed by the response.
33619- Tampa, FL. supplied by Tampa-St. Pete stations.(395 miles from my
home)
32578- Niceville, FL supplied by Pensacola-Mobile stations(at home)
78597- South Padre Island, TX supplied by Harlingen-Brownsville, TX area
stations( about 900 miles from my home)
3. To obtain "local channels" pay a small fee per month, change the zip code in
the DISH setup and it is said to work. Otherwise, call and DISH will set it for
you.
4. Local channel service is provided by DISH via Echo 110

I have ordered an A/B switch that is supposed to allow me to switch satellites.
Otherwise, it is going to be $700.00 to upgrade, and that smells.

Far to much legal @#$% going on these days.(Still smiling)
Thanks again,

Leroy Eckert
1990 WB-40 "Smoke N Mirrors"
Niceville, FL




----- Original Message -----
From: Bruce Morris
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 1:18 AM
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Space Ship TV Antenna


Leroy, I just replaced my antenna with a new Wingard RS-1500. It is
omni-directional and according to the literature it is generally considered to
be good for transmitters within a 35 mile radius of the antenna. I figure
because I mounted it on the old mount and can raise it when we stop that it
might even do a little better.

Dish now uses a "spot beam" for local programming so my understanding is that
you can no longer receive your home stations after you get out of your general
coverage area. I don't know exactly how far that is. I hope that we can still
pick up our local stations on dish in Florida. We have done it in the past, but
I think that was before they went to the spot beam. I'm not sure what the
problem was that caused them to change, but since you pay extra for local
coverage it seems you should be able to get it anywhere. I presume that local
stations somehow objected. I seem to remember that it was a legal issue. Other
than that CRS wins.

Bruce Morris (919)872-7635 Raleigh, NC
Webmaster - WOO (http://www.wanderlodge.us)
1983 WL FC35RB

FMCA: 7142s Ham Radio: KI4ME
Vietnam Vet - 1966-67 'Doc' (Navy Corpsman) 3rd MarDiv

----- Original Message -----
From: jwasnewski
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2006 10:27 PM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Space Ship TV Antenna

Does anyone use the old space ship TV antenna on a regular basis? If
so, any idea on range. I do not have any paperwork on it. I have all
the latest stuff but had to use the space ship last night(1st time)
after Dish Network shut off my remote local channel access due to a
court squabble. Remote local in my case meaning CBS< NBC< FOX and ABC
out of NY or LA my choice. Happened right in the middle of USC-UCLA
waiting for the Florida game. I was in a remote area and was able to
pick up one station clearly. Just happened to be CBS, Dothan AL.
Since I now know the antenna actually works I may consider using it for
local access instead of Dish in cases where I cannot hard wire to
cable. Any history appreciated.

Leroy Eckert
1990 WB-40 "Smoke N Mirrors"
Niceville, FL

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[Leroy Eckert]

Roger: Thanks, I just made another post about local channel reception. Local
channels other than Network channels were set up in a specified radius. That is
how my friend Chicago friend has been operating. I was receiving NY and LA
distant Network channels. (ABC Chicago or NY Network channels. Based on today's discussion with DISH be
prepared to get knocked off line and receive Network and local channels out of
Cedar Rapids or someplace nearby. If you move elsewhere then you will receive
the channels from stations providing Network coverage in that area. I was doing
fine, now I gotta jump through some hoops.

DISH referred me to Mydistantnetworks.com as an alternative for distant network
service, purported to be the only company to offer this service now.

Please, let me know if you get knocked off distant network coverage. I'll
report how mine works when I get it straightened out.

Leroy Eckert
1990 WB-40 "Smoke N Mirrors"
Niceville, FL





----- Original Message -----
From: rogerwwebb@...
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 9:23 AM
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Space Ship TV Antenna


Dish Network has an option to get either Chicago, LA and I believe NY
network stations anywhere in the US. My local stations are not available
outside
of an XX? radius. I signed up for Chicago and get it everyplace I go. If I
remember properly, it doesn't cost additional when I opted for the local
channels, but I'd have to confirm that.

Roger Webb - 91WBWL - Cedar Rapids, IA

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[Gregory OConnor]

Leroy, just tape several local news broadcasts and put one in when
you get home sick. Its always the same old thing. By the way, at the
SW Rally in October I won the "Jeopardy" Contest every night. My
vast wealth of knowledge impressed everyone.

GregoryO'Connor
94pt with a DVR
RomolandCa

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Leroy Eckert"
wrote:
>
> Thanks to all for the response:
> Just off a lengthy conversation with DISH. This is what I was told.
> 1. Distant local channel service is discontinued effective Dec 1,
2006. They get you on a periodic download and that is what happened
to me on Saturday.
> 2. You will not be able to pick up your home base local channels
outside 200 miles(approx). Spot Beam in use. During the
conversation I gave the tech the following zip codes followed by the
response.
> 33619- Tampa, FL. supplied by Tampa-St. Pete stations.(395
miles from my home)
> 32578- Niceville, FL supplied by Pensacola-Mobile stations(at
home)
> 78597- South Padre Island, TX supplied by Harlingen-Brownsville,
TX area stations( about 900 miles from my home)
> 3. To obtain "local channels" pay a small fee per month, change
the zip code in the DISH setup and it is said to work. Otherwise,
call and DISH will set it for you.
> 4. Local channel service is provided by DISH via Echo 110
>
> I have ordered an A/B switch that is supposed to allow me to switch
satellites. Otherwise, it is going to be $700.00 to upgrade, and
that smells.
>
> Far to much legal @#$% going on these days.(Still smiling)
> Thanks again,
>
> Leroy Eckert
> 1990 WB-40 "Smoke N Mirrors"
> Niceville, FL
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Bruce Morris
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 1:18 AM
> Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Space Ship TV Antenna
>
>
> Leroy, I just replaced my antenna with a new Wingard RS-1500. It
is omni-directional and according to the literature it is generally
considered to be good for transmitters within a 35 mile radius of the
antenna. I figure because I mounted it on the old mount and can raise
it when we stop that it might even do a little better.
>
> Dish now uses a "spot beam" for local programming so my
understanding is that you can no longer receive your home stations
after you get out of your general coverage area. I don't know exactly
how far that is. I hope that we can still pick up our local stations
on dish in Florida. We have done it in the past, but I think that was
before they went to the spot beam. I'm not sure what the problem was
that caused them to change, but since you pay extra for local
coverage it seems you should be able to get it anywhere. I presume
that local stations somehow objected. I seem to remember that it was
a legal issue. Other than that CRS wins.
>
> Bruce Morris (919)872-7635 Raleigh, NC
> Webmaster - WOO (http://www.wanderlodge.us)
> 1983 WL FC35RB
>
> FMCA: 7142s Ham Radio: KI4ME
> Vietnam Vet - 1966-67 'Doc' (Navy Corpsman) 3rd MarDiv
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: jwasnewski
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2006 10:27 PM
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Space Ship TV Antenna
>
> Does anyone use the old space ship TV antenna on a regular basis?
If
> so, any idea on range. I do not have any paperwork on it. I have
all
> the latest stuff but had to use the space ship last night(1st
time)
> after Dish Network shut off my remote local channel access due to
a
> court squabble. Remote local in my case meaning CBS< NBC< FOX and
ABC
> out of NY or LA my choice. Happened right in the middle of USC-
UCLA
> waiting for the Florida game. I was in a remote area and was able
to
> pick up one station clearly. Just happened to be CBS, Dothan AL.
> Since I now know the antenna actually works I may consider using
it for
> local access instead of Dish in cases where I cannot hard wire to
> cable. Any history appreciated.
>
> Leroy Eckert
> 1990 WB-40 "Smoke N Mirrors"
> Niceville, FL
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

[TJ Hannink]

I replaced the UFO dish with an "upgraded" high definition model a couple of
months ago; I can pull in all of the locals that broadcast in HD over it. I also
have HD DirecTV with HD Distant Network Services which gives me both the NY and
LA national feeds in HD. DirecTV continues to provide me with the local
channels, but not in HD.

I feed the off-air antenna into the DirecTV HD receiver and it functions as a
HD tuner for those stations; the box even gives you a signal strength meter for
those channels that comes in handy when tuning.

I still need to upgrade the rear TV to an HD model, I have a 19" Sony 1080i
LCD mounted under the microwave cabinet currently. It uses the HDMI connection
from the DirecTV receiver. I ran a set of component video cables from the
DirecTV box to the rear bedroom so its all ready to go.

Good luck,






TJ Hannink
Goldibox - 1987 Vanagon Camper, Wolfsburg Edition
1981 Bluebird Wanderlodge, FC-33SB
Full-timing in Paradis, Louisiana
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wolfsburg_campers
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FC_wanderlodge

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[Leroy Eckert]

Greg:
I have never received my area local channels network or otherwise in the bus. I
used LA and NY. All I want is the 4 major networks in addition to other DISH
programming and I don't care where it comes from. I do not care to decipher how
the satellite works, I'd rather drink a beer or two, fry some brain cells and
loose at Jeopardy. (Smile)
Hope all is well in Romoland. Good to here from you.

Leroy Eckert
1990 WB-40 "Smoke N Mirrors'"
Niceville, FL






----- Original Message -----
From: Gregory OConnor
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 11:04 AM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Space Ship TV Antenna


Leroy, just tape several local news broadcasts and put one in when
you get home sick. Its always the same old thing. By the way, at the
SW Rally in October I won the "Jeopardy" Contest every night. My
vast wealth of knowledge impressed everyone.

GregoryO'Connor
94pt with a DVR
RomolandCa

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Leroy Eckert"
wrote:
>
> Thanks to all for the response:
> Just off a lengthy conversation with DISH. This is what I was told.
> 1. Distant local channel service is discontinued effective Dec 1,
2006. They get you on a periodic download and that is what happened
to me on Saturday.
> 2. You will not be able to pick up your home base local channels
outside 200 miles(approx). Spot Beam in use. During the
conversation I gave the tech the following zip codes followed by the
response.
> 33619- Tampa, FL. supplied by Tampa-St. Pete stations.(395
miles from my home)
> 32578- Niceville, FL supplied by Pensacola-Mobile stations(at
home)
> 78597- South Padre Island, TX supplied by Harlingen-Brownsville,
TX area stations( about 900 miles from my home)
> 3. To obtain "local channels" pay a small fee per month, change
the zip code in the DISH setup and it is said to work. Otherwise,
call and DISH will set it for you.
> 4. Local channel service is provided by DISH via Echo 110
>
> I have ordered an A/B switch that is supposed to allow me to switch
satellites. Otherwise, it is going to be $700.00 to upgrade, and
that smells.
>
> Far to much legal @#$% going on these days.(Still smiling)
> Thanks again,
>
> Leroy Eckert
> 1990 WB-40 "Smoke N Mirrors"
> Niceville, FL
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Bruce Morris
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 1:18 AM
> Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Space Ship TV Antenna
>
>
> Leroy, I just replaced my antenna with a new Wingard RS-1500. It
is omni-directional and according to the literature it is generally
considered to be good for transmitters within a 35 mile radius of the
antenna. I figure because I mounted it on the old mount and can raise
it when we stop that it might even do a little better.
>
> Dish now uses a "spot beam" for local programming so my
understanding is that you can no longer receive your home stations
after you get out of your general coverage area. I don't know exactly
how far that is. I hope that we can still pick up our local stations
on dish in Florida. We have done it in the past, but I think that was
before they went to the spot beam. I'm not sure what the problem was
that caused them to change, but since you pay extra for local
coverage it seems you should be able to get it anywhere. I presume
that local stations somehow objected. I seem to remember that it was
a legal issue. Other than that CRS wins.
>
> Bruce Morris (919)872-7635 Raleigh, NC
> Webmaster - WOO (http://www.wanderlodge.us)
> 1983 WL FC35RB
>
> FMCA: 7142s Ham Radio: KI4ME
> Vietnam Vet - 1966-67 'Doc' (Navy Corpsman) 3rd MarDiv
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: jwasnewski
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2006 10:27 PM
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Space Ship TV Antenna
>
> Does anyone use the old space ship TV antenna on a regular basis?
If
> so, any idea on range. I do not have any paperwork on it. I have
all
> the latest stuff but had to use the space ship last night(1st
time)
> after Dish Network shut off my remote local channel access due to
a
> court squabble. Remote local in my case meaning CBS< NBC< FOX and
ABC
> out of NY or LA my choice. Happened right in the middle of USC-
UCLA
> waiting for the Florida game. I was in a remote area and was able
to
> pick up one station clearly. Just happened to be CBS, Dothan AL.
> Since I now know the antenna actually works I may consider using
it for
> local access instead of Dish in cases where I cannot hard wire to
> cable. Any history appreciated.
>
> Leroy Eckert
> 1990 WB-40 "Smoke N Mirrors"
> Niceville, FL
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>





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[Curt Sprenger]

I was told the same thing and got my Los Angeles, CA home signals when
in Montana, North Dakota, Minnesota, Iowa.

Curt Sprenger
1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
Anaheim Hills, Calif.



Leroy Eckert wrote:

>Roger:
>Thanks, I spoke with TracVision tech support and ordered an A/B switch. He
also told me that I may not receive local network channels outside a 400 mile
range from home base due to Federal Regs. Always something these days. How far
away from home base do you receive your local network channels? A friend from
Chicago gets his in DeFuniak Springs, FL. Strange!!
>Stay warm.
>
>Leroy Eckert
>1990 WB-40 "Smoke N Mirrors"
>Niceville, FL
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: rogerwwebb
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 7:02 AM
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Space Ship TV Antenna
>
>
>
> Leroy,
>
> I too have Tracvision L3. Tracvision provided an A/B switch that is
> simple to program (w/o a computer) to access satellite pairs. Info on
> requesting the switch came with the dish instructions. It plugs into
> the Tracvision on/off panel. Mine is setup for satellites 110 and 119.
>
> As for the BB Antenna, it seems to work as well as any antenna --
> distances vary with terrain, height and weather -- which in the end, is
> not that great, nor reliable.
>
> Roger Webb - 91WBWL - Cedar Rapids, IA - VERY cold
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>
>
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>

[Leroy Eckert]

TJ:
I was set up in a similar fashion receiving National Distant Network Services
from NY and LA. I was told by DISH that DirectTV is under the same mandate to
no longer provide distant Network services. It will be interesting to see if
your distant Network service is discontinued soon.
If not, perhaps they do not like the color of my bus (grin)

Leroy Eckert
1990 WB-40 "Smoke N Mirrors"
Niceville, FL









----- Original Message -----
From: TJ Hannink
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 11:12 AM
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Space Ship TV Antenna


I replaced the UFO dish with an "upgraded" high definition model a couple of
months ago; I can pull in all of the locals that broadcast in HD over it. I also
have HD DirecTV with HD Distant Network Services which gives me both the NY and
LA national feeds in HD. DirecTV continues to provide me with the local
channels, but not in HD.

I feed the off-air antenna into the DirecTV HD receiver and it functions as a
HD tuner for those stations; the box even gives you a signal strength meter for
those channels that comes in handy when tuning.

I still need to upgrade the rear TV to an HD model, I have a 19" Sony 1080i
LCD mounted under the microwave cabinet currently. It uses the HDMI connection
from the DirecTV receiver. I ran a set of component video cables from the
DirecTV box to the rear bedroom so its all ready to go.

Good luck,




TJ Hannink
Goldibox - 1987 Vanagon Camper, Wolfsburg Edition
1981 Bluebird Wanderlodge, FC-33SB
Full-timing in Paradis, Louisiana
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wolfsburg_campers
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FC_wanderlodge

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[Leroy Eckert]

I know for certain that my Distant Network Service has been discontinued.

Leroy Eckert
1990 WB-40 "Smoke N Mirrors"
Niceville, FL





----- Original Message -----
From: Curt Sprenger
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 11:47 AM
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Space Ship TV Antenna


I was told the same thing and got my Los Angeles, CA home signals when
in Montana, North Dakota, Minnesota, Iowa.

Curt Sprenger
1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
Anaheim Hills, Calif.

Leroy Eckert wrote:

>Roger:
>Thanks, I spoke with TracVision tech support and ordered an A/B switch. He
also told me that I may not receive local network channels outside a 400 mile
range from home base due to Federal Regs. Always something these days. How far
away from home base do you receive your local network channels? A friend from
Chicago gets his in DeFuniak Springs, FL. Strange!!
>Stay warm.
>
>Leroy Eckert
>1990 WB-40 "Smoke N Mirrors"
>Niceville, FL
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: rogerwwebb
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 7:02 AM
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Space Ship TV Antenna
>
>
>
> Leroy,
>
> I too have Tracvision L3. Tracvision provided an A/B switch that is
> simple to program (w/o a computer) to access satellite pairs. Info on
> requesting the switch came with the dish instructions. It plugs into
> the Tracvision on/off panel. Mine is setup for satellites 110 and 119.
>
> As for the BB Antenna, it seems to work as well as any antenna --
> distances vary with terrain, height and weather -- which in the end, is
> not that great, nor reliable.
>
> Roger Webb - 91WBWL - Cedar Rapids, IA - VERY cold
>
>
>
>
>
>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>




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[Pete Masterson]

This is one of those things that involve money changing hands. The
local stations want to count as many eyes as possible to justify
their ad rates. The system doesn't anticipate mobile users (i.e.
those of us with RVs). This is an area where Federal regulations are
involved.

Write your Congress representatives and let them know that you think
about them every time you turn on the TV ... and that your thoughts
are _not_ at all positive. This regulation needs to be changed to
allow mobile people to have the convenience of national programming.

Pete Masterson
aeonix1@...
'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42'
El Sobrante, CA




On Dec 4, 2006, at 8:21 AM, Leroy Eckert wrote:

> Thanks to all for the response:
> Just off a lengthy conversation with DISH. This is what I was told.
> 1. Distant local channel service is discontinued effective Dec 1,
> 2006. <snip>
>
> Far to much legal @#$% going on these days.(Still smiling)
> Thanks again,
>
> Leroy Eckert
> 1990 WB-40 "Smoke N Mirrors"
> Niceville, FL



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[Leroy Eckert]

Pete: I'm going to send off an e-mail today. I believe Bill S4067 is the one.
Going to check furthur.

Leroy Eckert
1990 WB-40 "Smoke N Mirrors''
Niceville, FL




----- Original Message -----
From: Pete Masterson
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 12:31 PM
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Space Ship TV Antenna


This is one of those things that involve money changing hands. The
local stations want to count as many eyes as possible to justify
their ad rates. The system doesn't anticipate mobile users (i.e.
those of us with RVs). This is an area where Federal regulations are
involved.

Write your Congress representatives and let them know that you think
about them every time you turn on the TV ... and that your thoughts
are _not_ at all positive. This regulation needs to be changed to
allow mobile people to have the convenience of national programming.

Pete Masterson
aeonix1@...
'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42'
El Sobrante, CA

On Dec 4, 2006, at 8:21 AM, Leroy Eckert wrote:

> Thanks to all for the response:
> Just off a lengthy conversation with DISH. This is what I was told.
> 1. Distant local channel service is discontinued effective Dec 1,
> 2006. <snip>
>
> Far to much legal @#$% going on these days.(Still smiling)
> Thanks again,
>
> Leroy Eckert
> 1990 WB-40 "Smoke N Mirrors"
> Niceville, FL

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