front air bags/susp dump light

[Rose Mary]

Hi all,
Was getting ready for a little road trip and .....a previous problem
recurred. The air isn't coming up on front bags, susp dump light on.
This happened once before and a mobile wrench came and tapped on a
valve underneath the coach and it hadn't been a problem since. I have
tapped to no avail, not sure how strong of tap is ok. How difficult is
it to remove and clean that valve etc. Little things like this are
probably why I shouldn't try to keep and use my little brother's
coach, . For someone who likes to wrench and knows how, these little
fixes are free and relatively simple, but for myself and my 84 year old
mom it gets spendy when we have to pay someone for every little thing.
Thought we were about ready to roll for summer trips etc.
The turbo cat runs great, all fluids fresh, everything lubed...
The rear bags are fine. Was hoping to get away a few days but rats,
mobile wrench not available until next week.
On our last outing a month ago everything worked great. (With the
exception of dripping of the waste/gray ....(blue with the aqua
treatment)....the tanks were not full, the drip started after we
dumped. The valves were hard to get open, (my first time dumping) then
at first the gray water valve didn't want to stay fastened, it would be
loose after we traveled a bit. Finally got it to stay closed but the
drip didn't stop. When I can get the air up, will go dump and make sure
the tanks are empty and check the gaskets..?
Sorry this is so long.
Looking forward to taking the coach out for some exercise.
Rose Mary
82 FC 33
Oregon

[Tom Warner]

Turn off the suspension dump on the shift box!

Tom
1982 FC35
Vernon Center,NY
In the beautiful Mohawk Valley


At 03:03 AM 4/23/2005 +0000, you wrote:

>Hi all,
>Was getting ready for a little road trip and .....a previous problem
>recurred. The air isn't coming up on front bags, susp dump light on.
>This happened once before and a mobile wrench came and tapped on a
>valve underneath the coach and it hadn't been a problem since. I have
>tapped to no avail, not sure how strong of tap is ok. How difficult is
>it to remove and clean that valve etc. Little things like this are
>probably why I shouldn't try to keep and use my little brother's
>coach, . For someone who likes to wrench and knows how, these little
>fixes are free and relatively simple, but for myself and my 84 year old
>mom it gets spendy when we have to pay someone for every little thing.
>Thought we were about ready to roll for summer trips etc.
>The turbo cat runs great, all fluids fresh, everything lubed...
>The rear bags are fine. Was hoping to get away a few days but rats,
>mobile wrench not available until next week.
>On our last outing a month ago everything worked great. (With the
>exception of dripping of the waste/gray ....(blue with the aqua
>treatment)....the tanks were not full, the drip started after we
>dumped. The valves were hard to get open, (my first time dumping) then
>at first the gray water valve didn't want to stay fastened, it would be
>loose after we traveled a bit. Finally got it to stay closed but the
>drip didn't stop. When I can get the air up, will go dump and make sure
>the tanks are empty and check the gaskets..?
>Sorry this is so long.
>Looking forward to taking the coach out for some exercise.
>Rose Mary
>82 FC 33
>Oregon
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>----------
>Yahoo! Groups Links
> * To visit your group on the web, go to:
> *
>
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WanderlodgeForum/>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/W\
anderlodgeForum/
>
> *
> * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> *
>
Wanderl\
odgeForum-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
>
> *
> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the
> <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>Yahoo! Terms of Service.

[Jeff Miller]

It sounds like a sticky dump valve on the front suspension. Wait
until the air pressure is up, then cycle the dump switch a couple of
times.

- Jeff Miller
http://www.wanderlodge.net
http://www.millercoachworks.com


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Rose Mary"
wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> Was getting ready for a little road trip and .....a previous
problem
> recurred. The air isn't coming up on front bags, susp dump light
on.
> This happened once before and a mobile wrench came and tapped on a
> valve underneath the coach and it hadn't been a problem since. I
have
> tapped to no avail, not sure how strong of tap is ok. How difficult
is
> it to remove and clean that valve etc. Little things like this are
> probably why I shouldn't try to keep and use my little brother's
> coach, . For someone who likes to wrench and knows how, these
little
> fixes are free and relatively simple, but for myself and my 84 year
old
> mom it gets spendy when we have to pay someone for every little
thing.
> Thought we were about ready to roll for summer trips etc.
> The turbo cat runs great, all fluids fresh, everything lubed...
> The rear bags are fine. Was hoping to get away a few days but rats,
> mobile wrench not available until next week.
> On our last outing a month ago everything worked great. (With the
> exception of dripping of the waste/gray ....(blue with the aqua
> treatment)....the tanks were not full, the drip started after we
> dumped. The valves were hard to get open, (my first time dumping)
then
> at first the gray water valve didn't want to stay fastened, it
would be
> loose after we traveled a bit. Finally got it to stay closed but
the
> drip didn't stop. When I can get the air up, will go dump and make
sure
> the tanks are empty and check the gaskets..?
> Sorry this is so long.
> Looking forward to taking the coach out for some exercise.
> Rose Mary
> 82 FC 33
> Oregon

[geez_al]

I had this problem in the rear. I ended up taking off the bottom nut for
height control rod (very easy, 1/4 nut 7/16 wrench) and cycling the valve
(moving the rod up and down) a bunch of times. I ended up making a new
adjustable rod using rod ends two give myself easy adjustments but just
cycling it seemed to cure the problem. In the past my bus sat a lot so I
thing the valve got a bit sticky.



Al S.

81' 31' FC

Now in San Fran



_____

From: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Miller
Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 11:07 AM
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: front air bags/susp dump light




It sounds like a sticky dump valve on the front suspension. Wait
until the air pressure is up, then cycle the dump switch a couple of
times.

- Jeff Miller
http://www.wanderlodge.net
http://www.millercoachworks.com


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Rose Mary"
wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> Was getting ready for a little road trip and .....a previous
problem
> recurred. The air isn't coming up on front bags, susp dump light
on.
> This happened once before and a mobile wrench came and tapped on a
> valve underneath the coach and it hadn't been a problem since. I
have
> tapped to no avail, not sure how strong of tap is ok. How difficult
is
> it to remove and clean that valve etc. Little things like this are
> probably why I shouldn't try to keep and use my little brother's
> coach, . For someone who likes to wrench and knows how, these
little
> fixes are free and relatively simple, but for myself and my 84 year
old
> mom it gets spendy when we have to pay someone for every little
thing.
> Thought we were about ready to roll for summer trips etc.
> The turbo cat runs great, all fluids fresh, everything lubed...
> The rear bags are fine. Was hoping to get away a few days but rats,
> mobile wrench not available until next week.
> On our last outing a month ago everything worked great. (With the
> exception of dripping of the waste/gray ....(blue with the aqua
> treatment)....the tanks were not full, the drip started after we
> dumped. The valves were hard to get open, (my first time dumping)
then
> at first the gray water valve didn't want to stay fastened, it
would be
> loose after we traveled a bit. Finally got it to stay closed but
the
> drip didn't stop. When I can get the air up, will go dump and make
sure
> the tanks are empty and check the gaskets..?
> Sorry this is so long.
> Looking forward to taking the coach out for some exercise.
> Rose Mary
> 82 FC 33
> Oregon






_____

Yahoo! Groups Links

* To visit your group on the web, go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WanderlodgeForum/

* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
WanderlodgeForum-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com


* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo!
<http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> Terms of Service.



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Rose Mary]

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Miller"
wrote:
>
> It sounds like a sticky dump valve on the front suspension. Wait
> until the air pressure is up, then cycle the dump switch a couple
of
> times.
>
> - Jeff Miller
> http://www.wanderlodge.net
> http://www.millercoachworks.com


Jeff,
Have tried that to no avail...other suggestions? Is that valve
expensive? Can it be cleaned?
thank you
Rose Mary
82 FC 33
Oregon

>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Rose Mary"
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> > Was getting ready for a little road trip and .....a previous
> problem
> > recurred. The air isn't coming up on front bags, susp dump light
> on.
> > This happened once before and a mobile wrench came and tapped on
a
> > valve underneath the coach and it hadn't been a problem since. I
> have
> > tapped to no avail, not sure how strong of tap is ok. How
difficult
> is
> > it to remove and clean that valve etc. Little things like this
are
> > probably why I shouldn't try to keep and use my little brother's
> > coach, . For someone who likes to wrench and knows how, these
> little
> > fixes are free and relatively simple, but for myself and my 84
year
> old
> > mom it gets spendy when we have to pay someone for every little
> thing.
> > Thought we were about ready to roll for summer trips etc.
> > The turbo cat runs great, all fluids fresh, everything lubed...
> > The rear bags are fine. Was hoping to get away a few days but
rats,
> > mobile wrench not available until next week.
> > On our last outing a month ago everything worked great. (With the
> > exception of dripping of the waste/gray ....(blue with the aqua
> > treatment)....the tanks were not full, the drip started after we
> > dumped. The valves were hard to get open, (my first time dumping)
> then
> > at first the gray water valve didn't want to stay fastened, it
> would be
> > loose after we traveled a bit. Finally got it to stay closed but
> the
> > drip didn't stop. When I can get the air up, will go dump and
make
> sure
> > the tanks are empty and check the gaskets..?
> > Sorry this is so long.
> > Looking forward to taking the coach out for some exercise.
> > Rose Mary
> > 82 FC 33
> > Oregon

[Jeff Miller]

It is a simple shuttle valve, I believe around the $40 range from a
parts supplier, have not tried cleaning one.


- Jeff Miller
http://www.wanderlodge.net
http://www.millercoachworks.com


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Rose Mary"
wrote:
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Miller"
> wrote:
> >
> > It sounds like a sticky dump valve on the front suspension. Wait
> > until the air pressure is up, then cycle the dump switch a couple
> of
> > times.
> >
> > - Jeff Miller
> > http://www.wanderlodge.net
> > http://www.millercoachworks.com
>
>
> Jeff,
> Have tried that to no avail...other suggestions? Is that valve
> expensive? Can it be cleaned?
> thank you
> Rose Mary
> 82 FC 33
> Oregon
>
> >
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Rose Mary"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > > Was getting ready for a little road trip and .....a previous
> > problem
> > > recurred. The air isn't coming up on front bags, susp dump
light
> > on.
> > > This happened once before and a mobile wrench came and tapped
on
> a
> > > valve underneath the coach and it hadn't been a problem since.
I
> > have
> > > tapped to no avail, not sure how strong of tap is ok. How
> difficult
> > is
> > > it to remove and clean that valve etc. Little things like this
> are
> > > probably why I shouldn't try to keep and use my little
brother's
> > > coach, . For someone who likes to wrench and knows how,
these
> > little
> > > fixes are free and relatively simple, but for myself and my 84
> year
> > old
> > > mom it gets spendy when we have to pay someone for every little
> > thing.
> > > Thought we were about ready to roll for summer trips etc.
> > > The turbo cat runs great, all fluids fresh, everything lubed...
> > > The rear bags are fine. Was hoping to get away a few days but
> rats,
> > > mobile wrench not available until next week.
> > > On our last outing a month ago everything worked great. (With
the
> > > exception of dripping of the waste/gray ....(blue with the aqua
> > > treatment)....the tanks were not full, the drip started after
we
> > > dumped. The valves were hard to get open, (my first time
dumping)
> > then
> > > at first the gray water valve didn't want to stay fastened, it
> > would be
> > > loose after we traveled a bit. Finally got it to stay closed
but
> > the
> > > drip didn't stop. When I can get the air up, will go dump and
> make
> > sure
> > > the tanks are empty and check the gaskets..?
> > > Sorry this is so long.
> > > Looking forward to taking the coach out for some exercise.
> > > Rose Mary
> > > 82 FC 33
> > > Oregon

[Rose Mary]

Hi Jeff, where would I find a part number for the valve?
Rose Mary
82 FC 33
Oregon

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Miller"
wrote:
>
> It is a simple shuttle valve, I believe around the $40 range from a
> parts supplier, have not tried cleaning one.
>
>
> - Jeff Miller
> http://www.wanderlodge.net
> http://www.millercoachworks.com
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Rose Mary"
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Miller"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > It sounds like a sticky dump valve on the front suspension.
Wait
> > > until the air pressure is up, then cycle the dump switch a
couple
> > of
> > > times.
> > >
> > > - Jeff Miller
> > > http://www.wanderlodge.net
> > > http://www.millercoachworks.com
> >
> >
> > Jeff,
> > Have tried that to no avail...other suggestions? Is that valve
> > expensive? Can it be cleaned?
> > thank you
> > Rose Mary
> > 82 FC 33
> > Oregon
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Rose Mary"
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi all,
> > > > Was getting ready for a little road trip and .....a
previous
> > > problem
> > > > recurred. The air isn't coming up on front bags, susp dump
> light
> > > on.
> > > > This happened once before and a mobile wrench came and tapped
> on
> > a
> > > > valve underneath the coach and it hadn't been a problem
since.
> I
> > > have
> > > > tapped to no avail, not sure how strong of tap is ok. How
> > difficult
> > > is
> > > > it to remove and clean that valve etc. Little things like
this
> > are
> > > > probably why I shouldn't try to keep and use my little
> brother's
> > > > coach, . For someone who likes to wrench and knows how,
> these
> > > little
> > > > fixes are free and relatively simple, but for myself and my
84
> > year
> > > old
> > > > mom it gets spendy when we have to pay someone for every
little
> > > thing.
> > > > Thought we were about ready to roll for summer trips etc.
> > > > The turbo cat runs great, all fluids fresh, everything
lubed...
> > > > The rear bags are fine. Was hoping to get away a few days but
> > rats,
> > > > mobile wrench not available until next week.
> > > > On our last outing a month ago everything worked great. (With
> the
> > > > exception of dripping of the waste/gray ....(blue with the
aqua
> > > > treatment)....the tanks were not full, the drip started
after
> we
> > > > dumped. The valves were hard to get open, (my first time
> dumping)
> > > then
> > > > at first the gray water valve didn't want to stay fastened,
it
> > > would be
> > > > loose after we traveled a bit. Finally got it to stay closed
> but
> > > the
> > > > drip didn't stop. When I can get the air up, will go dump and
> > make
> > > sure
> > > > the tanks are empty and check the gaskets..?
> > > > Sorry this is so long.
> > > > Looking forward to taking the coach out for some exercise.
> > > > Rose Mary
> > > > 82 FC 33
> > > > Oregon

[Gary Miller]

Rose Mary,

Jeff is on the road right now.

I believe the BB part # for what you are looking for is 0982280.
It's called a "relay valve, pilot controlled". Vendor # is, WM #147-
P. It probably has 1/4" pipe fittings.

There is one in the front, and two in the rear, associated with the
leveling valves (1 in front, 2 in rear). I gather from the thread
that your front one may be sticking.

You could always call BB to confirm this #.

Gary Miller
83 FC 33
Wauwatosa, WI

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Rose Mary"
wrote:
>
>
> Hi Jeff, where would I find a part number for the valve?
> Rose Mary
> 82 FC 33
> Oregon
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Miller"
> wrote:
> >
> > It is a simple shuttle valve, I believe around the $40 range
from a
> > parts supplier, have not tried cleaning one.
> >
> >
> > - Jeff Miller
> > http://www.wanderlodge.net
> > http://www.millercoachworks.com
> >
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Rose Mary"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Miller"
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > It sounds like a sticky dump valve on the front suspension.
> Wait
> > > > until the air pressure is up, then cycle the dump switch a
> couple
> > > of
> > > > times.
> > > >
> > > > - Jeff Miller
> > > > http://www.wanderlodge.net
> > > > http://www.millercoachworks.com
> > >
> > >
> > > Jeff,
> > > Have tried that to no avail...other suggestions? Is that valve
> > > expensive? Can it be cleaned?
> > > thank you
> > > Rose Mary
> > > 82 FC 33
> > > Oregon
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Rose Mary"
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi all,
> > > > > Was getting ready for a little road trip and .....a
> previous
> > > > problem
> > > > > recurred. The air isn't coming up on front bags, susp dump
> > light
> > > > on.
> > > > > This happened once before and a mobile wrench came and
tapped
> > on
> > > a
> > > > > valve underneath the coach and it hadn't been a problem
> since.
> > I
> > > > have
> > > > > tapped to no avail, not sure how strong of tap is ok. How
> > > difficult
> > > > is
> > > > > it to remove and clean that valve etc. Little things like
> this
> > > are
> > > > > probably why I shouldn't try to keep and use my little
> > brother's
> > > > > coach, . For someone who likes to wrench and knows how,
> > these
> > > > little
> > > > > fixes are free and relatively simple, but for myself and
my
> 84
> > > year
> > > > old
> > > > > mom it gets spendy when we have to pay someone for every
> little
> > > > thing.
> > > > > Thought we were about ready to roll for summer trips etc.
> > > > > The turbo cat runs great, all fluids fresh, everything
> lubed...
> > > > > The rear bags are fine. Was hoping to get away a few days
but
> > > rats,
> > > > > mobile wrench not available until next week.
> > > > > On our last outing a month ago everything worked great.
(With
> > the
> > > > > exception of dripping of the waste/gray ....(blue with the
> aqua
> > > > > treatment)....the tanks were not full, the drip started
> after
> > we
> > > > > dumped. The valves were hard to get open, (my first time
> > dumping)
> > > > then
> > > > > at first the gray water valve didn't want to stay
fastened,
> it
> > > > would be
> > > > > loose after we traveled a bit. Finally got it to stay
closed
> > but
> > > > the
> > > > > drip didn't stop. When I can get the air up, will go dump
and
> > > make
> > > > sure
> > > > > the tanks are empty and check the gaskets..?
> > > > > Sorry this is so long.
> > > > > Looking forward to taking the coach out for some exercise.
> > > > > Rose Mary
> > > > > 82 FC 33
> > > > > Oregon