Frozen pipes

[Ernest Ekberg]

I have found the weakest link to the frozen pipes saga. The water pipe
run through the nightstand on the street side have been repaired many
times due to the fact that there is no warm air circulating there.
So, this is the area that needs most of the attention. I will repair
all these runs with pex and add some heat tape.
Ernie-83PT40
Livingston, Mt

[Terry Neal]

Same place mine froze too Ernie. Heat tape & PEX should fix it. I'm
going to add the circulating pump to my system too. If it's moving, it
won't freeze.

Terry Neal
Bozeman, MT
82PT40
74FC34



Ernest Ekberg wrote:

> I have found the weakest link to the frozen pipes saga. The water pipe
> run through the nightstand on the street side have been repaired many
> times due to the fact that there is no warm air circulating there.
> So, this is the area that needs most of the attention. I will repair
> all these runs with pex and add some heat tape.
> Ernie-83PT40
> Livingston, Mt
>
>

[ernieekberg@...>]

Will you have to make any modifications to allow the water to recirculate?
Ernie Ekberg
83PT40
Livingston,Montana
----- Original Message -----
From: Terry Neal
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007 10:53 AM
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Frozen pipes


Same place mine froze too Ernie. Heat tape & PEX should fix it. I'm
going to add the circulating pump to my system too. If it's moving, it
won't freeze.

Terry Neal
Bozeman, MT
82PT40
74FC34

Ernest Ekberg wrote:

> I have found the weakest link to the frozen pipes saga. The water pipe
> run through the nightstand on the street side have been repaired many
> times due to the fact that there is no warm air circulating there.
> So, this is the area that needs most of the attention. I will repair
> all these runs with pex and add some heat tape.
> Ernie-83PT40
> Livingston, Mt
>
>





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[Terry Neal]

Just install the pump and then add a "crossover" from the hot to the
cold lines, probably put it under the galley sink since there is "some"
access there.

Terry Neal
Bozeman, MT
82PT40
74FC34



ernieekberg@... wrote:

> Will you have to make any modifications to allow the water to recirculate?
> Ernie Ekberg
> 83PT40
> Livingston,Montana
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Terry Neal
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
>
> Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007 10:53 AM
> Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Frozen pipes
>
> Same place mine froze too Ernie. Heat tape & PEX should fix it. I'm
> going to add the circulating pump to my system too. If it's moving, it
> won't freeze.
>
> Terry Neal
> Bozeman, MT
> 82PT40
> 74FC34
>
> Ernest Ekberg wrote:
>
> > I have found the weakest link to the frozen pipes saga. The water pipe
> > run through the nightstand on the street side have been repaired many
> > times due to the fact that there is no warm air circulating there.
> > So, this is the area that needs most of the attention. I will repair
> > all these runs with pex and add some heat tape.
> > Ernie-83PT40
> > Livingston, Mt
> >
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>

[Wilhelmus Schreurs]

Terry:
What kind of crossover are you thinking about? Have you heard of the
"chillipepper"?


Bill 84 FC 35 SB "$quanderlodge"
Terrace, B.C. Canada




----- Original Message ----
From: Terry Neal
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007 10:10:36 AM
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Frozen pipes

Just install the pump and then add a "crossover" from the hot to the
cold lines, probably put it under the galley sink since there is "some"
access there.

Terry Neal
Bozeman, MT
82PT40
74FC34

ernieekberg@ peoplepc. com wrote:

> Will you have to make any modifications to allow the water to recirculate?
> Ernie Ekberg
> 83PT40
> Livingston,Montana
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Terry Neal
> To: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com
>
> Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007 10:53 AM
> Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Frozen pipes
>
> Same place mine froze too Ernie. Heat tape & PEX should fix it. I'm
> going to add the circulating pump to my system too. If it's moving, it
> won't freeze.
>
> Terry Neal
> Bozeman, MT
> 82PT40
> 74FC34
>
> Ernest Ekberg wrote:
>
> > I have found the weakest link to the frozen pipes saga. The water pipe
> > run through the nightstand on the street side have been repaired many
> > times due to the fact that there is no warm air circulating there.
> > So, this is the area that needs most of the attention. I will repair
> > all these runs with pex and add some heat tape.
> > Ernie-83PT40
> > Livingston, Mt
> >
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>




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[ernieekberg@...>]

Would you have to have a bypass valve on this project?
Ernie Ekberg
83PT40
Livingston,Montana
----- Original Message -----
From: Terry Neal
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007 11:10 AM
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Frozen pipes


Just install the pump and then add a "crossover" from the hot to the
cold lines, probably put it under the galley sink since there is "some"
access there.

Terry Neal
Bozeman, MT
82PT40
74FC34

ernieekberg@... wrote:

> Will you have to make any modifications to allow the water to recirculate?
> Ernie Ekberg
> 83PT40
> Livingston,Montana
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Terry Neal
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
>
> Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007 10:53 AM
> Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Frozen pipes
>
> Same place mine froze too Ernie. Heat tape & PEX should fix it. I'm
> going to add the circulating pump to my system too. If it's moving, it
> won't freeze.
>
> Terry Neal
> Bozeman, MT
> 82PT40
> 74FC34
>
> Ernest Ekberg wrote:
>
> > I have found the weakest link to the frozen pipes saga. The water pipe
> > run through the nightstand on the street side have been repaired many
> > times due to the fact that there is no warm air circulating there.
> > So, this is the area that needs most of the attention. I will repair
> > all these runs with pex and add some heat tape.
> > Ernie-83PT40
> > Livingston, Mt
> >
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>





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[Terry Neal]

Yes Bill. Probably will use that or something similar. I found a
couple a while back that should work. One that opens at set temp is
what I had in mind. Then it won't cause issues in the warmer months, or
just close it off in summer.

Stay warm up there & thanks for all your help & expertise on the surge
protector.

Terry Neal
Bozeman, MT
82PT40
74FC34



Wilhelmus Schreurs wrote:

> Terry:
> What kind of crossover are you thinking about? Have you heard of the
> "chillipepper"?
>
> Bill 84 FC 35 SB "$quanderlodge"
> Terrace, B.C. Canada
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Terry Neal > >
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
>
> Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007 10:10:36 AM
> Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Frozen pipes
>
> Just install the pump and then add a "crossover" from the hot to the
> cold lines, probably put it under the galley sink since there is "some"
> access there.
>
> Terry Neal
> Bozeman, MT
> 82PT40
> 74FC34
>
> ernieekberg@ peoplepc. com wrote:
>
> > Will you have to make any modifications to allow the water to
> recirculate?
> > Ernie Ekberg
> > 83PT40
> > Livingston,Montana
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Terry Neal
> > To: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com
> >
> > Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007 10:53 AM
> > Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Frozen pipes
> >
> > Same place mine froze too Ernie. Heat tape & PEX should fix it. I'm
> > going to add the circulating pump to my system too. If it's moving, it
> > won't freeze.
> >
> > Terry Neal
> > Bozeman, MT
> > 82PT40
> > 74FC34
> >
> > Ernest Ekberg wrote:
> >
> > > I have found the weakest link to the frozen pipes saga. The water pipe
> > > run through the nightstand on the street side have been repaired many
> > > times due to the fact that there is no warm air circulating there.
> > > So, this is the area that needs most of the attention. I will repair
> > > all these runs with pex and add some heat tape.
> > > Ernie-83PT40
> > > Livingston, Mt
> > >
> > >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
>
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[Terry Neal]

Maybe. Might not need one. Want to keep it as simple as possible & not
cause problems with regular system flows.

Terry Neal
Bozeman, MT
82PT40
74FC34



ernieekberg@... wrote:

> Would you have to have a bypass valve on this project?
> Ernie Ekberg
> 83PT40
> Livingston,Montana
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Terry Neal
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
>
> Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007 11:10 AM
> Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Frozen pipes
>
> Just install the pump and then add a "crossover" from the hot to the
> cold lines, probably put it under the galley sink since there is "some"
> access there.
>
> Terry Neal
> Bozeman, MT
> 82PT40
> 74FC34
>
> ernieekberg@... wrote:
>
> > Will you have to make any modifications to allow the water to
> recirculate?
> > Ernie Ekberg
> > 83PT40
> > Livingston,Montana
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Terry Neal
> > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
>
> >
> > Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007 10:53 AM
> > Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Frozen pipes
> >
> > Same place mine froze too Ernie. Heat tape & PEX should fix it. I'm
> > going to add the circulating pump to my system too. If it's moving, it
> > won't freeze.
> >
> > Terry Neal
> > Bozeman, MT
> > 82PT40
> > 74FC34
> >
> > Ernest Ekberg wrote:
> >
> > > I have found the weakest link to the frozen pipes saga. The water pipe
> > > run through the nightstand on the street side have been repaired many
> > > times due to the fact that there is no warm air circulating there.
> > > So, this is the area that needs most of the attention. I will repair
> > > all these runs with pex and add some heat tape.
> > > Ernie-83PT40
> > > Livingston, Mt
> > >
> > >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>

[rwoodysurplus]

MAYBE-
i AM not following but you need 2 valves in the rear that I just
replaced on mine with ball valves to run the chassis heaters and the
hot water heater

constant on to recirc the water thru the hot water heater in the
summer and the other to turn on the other valve for the kick heaters

with the winter setting in mine at 20degrees it was a little cool in
the back untill i turned on the aux water pump then all was good

on the fc it has another valve up ft under the coach for its driver
heat and also factory it has 2 sets of 2 manual screw in valves like
at your house if you blow a line or its real hot to block off the flow

woody
81 fc rb--for sale
90 sp

little rock ark active duty army






-- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Terry Neal wrote:
>
> Maybe. Might not need one. Want to keep it as simple as possible &
not
> cause problems with regular system flows.
>
> Terry Neal
> Bozeman, MT
> 82PT40
> 74FC34
>
>
>
> ernieekberg@... wrote:
>
> > Would you have to have a bypass valve on this project?
> > Ernie Ekberg
> > 83PT40
> > Livingston,Montana
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Terry Neal
> > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> >
> > Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007 11:10 AM
> > Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Frozen pipes
> >
> > Just install the pump and then add a "crossover" from the hot to the
> > cold lines, probably put it under the galley sink since there is
"some"
> > access there.
> >
> > Terry Neal
> > Bozeman, MT
> > 82PT40
> > 74FC34
> >
> > ernieekberg@... wrote:
> >
> > > Will you have to make any modifications to allow the water to
> > recirculate?
> > > Ernie Ekberg
> > > 83PT40
> > > Livingston,Montana
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Terry Neal
> > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> >
> > >
> > > Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007 10:53 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Frozen pipes
> > >
> > > Same place mine froze too Ernie. Heat tape & PEX should fix it. I'm
> > > going to add the circulating pump to my system too. If it's
moving, it
> > > won't freeze.
> > >
> > > Terry Neal
> > > Bozeman, MT
> > > 82PT40
> > > 74FC34
> > >
> > > Ernest Ekberg wrote:
> > >
> > > > I have found the weakest link to the frozen pipes saga. The
water pipe
> > > > run through the nightstand on the street side have been
repaired many
> > > > times due to the fact that there is no warm air circulating there.
> > > > So, this is the area that needs most of the attention. I will
repair
> > > > all these runs with pex and add some heat tape.
> > > > Ernie-83PT40
> > > > Livingston, Mt
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
>

[Terry Neal]

Woody,

I am talking about adding a constant circulating pump for the fresh
water/hot water system. Not the engine coolant. You do need 2 sporlan
(or other type) valves for the heaters & coolant. The link I sent Ernie
is: http://www.rewci.com/whhohotwaci.html

Terry Neal
Bozeman, MT
82PT40
74FC34



rwoodysurplus wrote:

> MAYBE-
> i AM not following but you need 2 valves in the rear that I just
> replaced on mine with ball valves to run the chassis heaters and the
> hot water heater
>
> constant on to recirc the water thru the hot water heater in the
> summer and the other to turn on the other valve for the kick heaters
>
> with the winter setting in mine at 20degrees it was a little cool in
> the back untill i turned on the aux water pump then all was good
>
> on the fc it has another valve up ft under the coach for its driver
> heat and also factory it has 2 sets of 2 manual screw in valves like
> at your house if you blow a line or its real hot to block off the flow
>
> woody
> 81 fc rb--for sale
> 90 sp
>
> little rock ark active duty army
>
> -- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> , Terry Neal wrote:
> >
> > Maybe. Might not need one. Want to keep it as simple as possible &
> not
> > cause problems with regular system flows.
> >
> > Terry Neal
> > Bozeman, MT
> > 82PT40
> > 74FC34
> >
> >
> >
> > ernieekberg@... wrote:
> >
> > > Would you have to have a bypass valve on this project?
> > > Ernie Ekberg
> > > 83PT40
> > > Livingston,Montana
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Terry Neal
> > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
>
> > >
> > > Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007 11:10 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Frozen pipes
> > >
> > > Just install the pump and then add a "crossover" from the hot to the
> > > cold lines, probably put it under the galley sink since there is
> "some"
> > > access there.
> > >
> > > Terry Neal
> > > Bozeman, MT
> > > 82PT40
> > > 74FC34
> > >
> > > ernieekberg@... wrote:
> > >
> > > > Will you have to make any modifications to allow the water to
> > > recirculate?
> > > > Ernie Ekberg
> > > > 83PT40
> > > > Livingston,Montana
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: Terry Neal
> > > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
>
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007 10:53 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Frozen pipes
> > > >
> > > > Same place mine froze too Ernie. Heat tape & PEX should fix it. I'm
> > > > going to add the circulating pump to my system too. If it's
> moving, it
> > > > won't freeze.
> > > >
> > > > Terry Neal
> > > > Bozeman, MT
> > > > 82PT40
> > > > 74FC34
> > > >
> > > > Ernest Ekberg wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I have found the weakest link to the frozen pipes saga. The
> water pipe
> > > > > run through the nightstand on the street side have been
> repaired many
> > > > > times due to the fact that there is no warm air circulating there.
> > > > > So, this is the area that needs most of the attention. I will
> repair
> > > > > all these runs with pex and add some heat tape.
> > > > > Ernie-83PT40
> > > > > Livingston, Mt
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>