Looking to purchase used 1992 WB40

[mbrund]

I am looking at purchasing a used 1992 WB40, I was wanting to know
what things to look out for on this year model. I was told by the
current owner that one of the Primus heaters is a little flaky, and as
I understand by reading at various places that this should be of
concern since there is only one place to get parts. He said he did
not know what the issue was as it works sometimes, and does not
others, but the other unit works all the time. New fridge. Cooktop
and washer/dryer have not been used during the current owners 10 year
term.

What other items should I look for while inspecting a coach of this
year model that might be a big ticket items?

Coach has ~140K miles ~3000 hours on 8V92, 4 years on tires (kept
inside), 4 years on GEL cells (low batt charger plugged in while in
storage).

Thanks,
Michael

[Leroy Eckert]

There is a fairly comprehensive check list on http://www.vintagebirds.com. Perhaps
there is a forum member near you or the Bird that could help. There are forum
members that will do an inspection for a fee. What is your location?
As for the flaky Primus, Stephen Birtles http://www.capeinnovation.com can help you
there. I had a flaky Primus and converted to Wabasto diesel fired hydronic
heat. It's a little pricey but I am very happy with the system.
Now I use LP gas for the outside grill, refer(while in transit) and cooktop. I
don't get overly concerned with LP leaks because the tank is off most of the
time. I haven't filled the LP tank in two years.

Leroy Eckert
1990 WB-40"Smoke N Mirrors"
Niceville, FL





----- Original Message -----
From: mbrund
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 4:48 PM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Looking to purchase used 1992 WB40



I am looking at purchasing a used 1992 WB40, I was wanting to know
what things to look out for on this year model. I was told by the
current owner that one of the Primus heaters is a little flaky, and as
I understand by reading at various places that this should be of
concern since there is only one place to get parts. He said he did
not know what the issue was as it works sometimes, and does not
others, but the other unit works all the time. New fridge. Cooktop
and washer/dryer have not been used during the current owners 10 year
term.

What other items should I look for while inspecting a coach of this
year model that might be a big ticket items?

Coach has ~140K miles ~3000 hours on 8V92, 4 years on tires (kept
inside), 4 years on GEL cells (low batt charger plugged in while in
storage).

Thanks,
Michael





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[mbrund]

The bird is located in Pine Bluff, Arkansas
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Leroy Eckert"
wrote:
>
> There is a fairly comprehensive check list on
http://www.vintagebirds.com. Perhaps there is a forum member near you or
the Bird that could help. There are forum members that will do an
inspection for a fee. What is your location?
> As for the flaky Primus, Stephen Birtles http://www.capeinnovation.com
can help you there. I had a flaky Primus and converted to Wabasto
diesel fired hydronic heat. It's a little pricey but I am very
happy with the system.
> Now I use LP gas for the outside grill, refer(while in transit)
and cooktop. I don't get overly concerned with LP leaks because the
tank is off most of the time. I haven't filled the LP tank in two
years.
>
> Leroy Eckert
> 1990 WB-40"Smoke N Mirrors"
> Niceville, FL
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: mbrund
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 4:48 PM
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Looking to purchase used 1992 WB40
>
>
>
> I am looking at purchasing a used 1992 WB40, I was wanting to
know
> what things to look out for on this year model. I was told by the
> current owner that one of the Primus heaters is a little flaky,
and as
> I understand by reading at various places that this should be of
> concern since there is only one place to get parts. He said he
did
> not know what the issue was as it works sometimes, and does not
> others, but the other unit works all the time. New fridge.
Cooktop
> and washer/dryer have not been used during the current owners 10
year
> term.
>
> What other items should I look for while inspecting a coach of
this
> year model that might be a big ticket items?
>
> Coach has ~140K miles ~3000 hours on 8V92, 4 years on tires (kept
> inside), 4 years on GEL cells (low batt charger plugged in while
in
> storage).
>
> Thanks,
> Michael
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

[mbrund]

Leroy,

Thanks for the pointer to the list at vintagebirds, I had forgotten
about that one. I picked up a PDI list from ChanginGears that I am
modifing to add the extra stuff the bird has I am aware of.

The bird I am looking at is this one:
http://www.birdconnection.com/showroom/d...hp?v_id=72
It is located in Pine Bluff, Arkansas. So if there is anyone in
that area that could assist I would greatly appreciate it. I am a
current Fleetwood owner, and happy to say not for much longer

As for the Primus, I doubt we would ever need so much heat in the
unit that we would have to run two Primus heaters (live in Austin
Texas), but if I ever did I guess I would need to decide do I want
to go hydronic or stay with propane fired Primus and get it fixed.
I like the newer AquaHot type systems since they do more than just
heat the interior (domestic hot water, pre-heat engine, etc.), and
may decide to go that route in the future, so would be interested in
what the cost is to convert over to such a system.


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Leroy Eckert"
wrote:
>
> There is a fairly comprehensive check list on
http://www.vintagebirds.com. Perhaps there is a forum member near you or
the Bird that could help. There are forum members that will do an
inspection for a fee. What is your location?
> As for the flaky Primus, Stephen Birtles http://www.capeinnovation.com
can help you there. I had a flaky Primus and converted to Wabasto
diesel fired hydronic heat. It's a little pricey but I am very
happy with the system.
> Now I use LP gas for the outside grill, refer(while in transit)
and cooktop. I don't get overly concerned with LP leaks because the
tank is off most of the time. I haven't filled the LP tank in two
years.
>
> Leroy Eckert
> 1990 WB-40"Smoke N Mirrors"
> Niceville, FL
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: mbrund
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 4:48 PM
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Looking to purchase used 1992 WB40
>
>
>
> I am looking at purchasing a used 1992 WB40, I was wanting to
know
> what things to look out for on this year model. I was told by the
> current owner that one of the Primus heaters is a little flaky,
and as
> I understand by reading at various places that this should be of
> concern since there is only one place to get parts. He said he
did
> not know what the issue was as it works sometimes, and does not
> others, but the other unit works all the time. New fridge.
Cooktop
> and washer/dryer have not been used during the current owners 10
year
> term.
>
> What other items should I look for while inspecting a coach of
this
> year model that might be a big ticket items?
>
> Coach has ~140K miles ~3000 hours on 8V92, 4 years on tires (kept
> inside), 4 years on GEL cells (low batt charger plugged in while
in
> storage).
>
> Thanks,
> Michael
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

[smquandt]

I am throwing in the towel on my Flakey Primus next week, replacing with
Webasto Scholastic Heater, see
http://www.webasto.us/am/en/am_busses_heaters_2780.html . The install will
be done by Coachcraft in Columbus GA. Talk to Kenny Rodgers if you want an
idea of cost etc for this conversion, as Leroy says not cheap. Kenny told
me that if you use this unit it will fit on the existing tray the Primus is
on and the bulk oil fill will not have to be removed. If you replace with a
larger AQUA HOT in the same position the bulk oil fill needs to go.



If you want to keep the Primus units Stephen Birtles is the person to talk
to!



NO FINANCIAL ITEREST here.



Steve Quandt

FREEZING in Iron Mountain, MI

But heading south next week!!

-8 degrees!!



_____

From: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mbrund
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 4:48 PM
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Looking to purchase used 1992 WB40




I am looking at purchasing a used 1992 WB40, I was wanting to know
what things to look out for on this year model. I was told by the
current owner that one of the Primus heaters is a little flaky, and as
I understand by reading at various places that this should be of
concern since there is only one place to get parts. He said he did
not know what the issue was as it works sometimes, and does not
others, but the other unit works all the time. New fridge. Cooktop
and washer/dryer have not been used during the current owners 10 year
term.

What other items should I look for while inspecting a coach of this
year model that might be a big ticket items?

Coach has ~140K miles ~3000 hours on 8V92, 4 years on tires (kept
inside), 4 years on GEL cells (low batt charger plugged in while in
storage).

Thanks,
Michael





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[rogerwwebb]

Webasto has a unit and instructions to replace the Primus boilers,
which then provides the same functions as the Primus, heating the
interior, bays, hot water, engine pre-heat option, etc.

Two years ago the Webasto unit was $2600 if I remember correctly.
Installaton extra.

Roger Webb
91WLWB
Cedar Rapids, IA

[Leroy Eckert]

Steve: You are doing the correct thing. Coachcraft does a fine job. The
Wabasto Scholastic went into the area where the two Primus boilers were. I now
have a single loop, single thermostat hydronic system the works very well.
There is a side benefit. The gas feed line to the Primus can be used to feed an
outside grill and bean pot.
What ever the Primus did the Wabasto does far better.

Leroy Eckert
1990 WB-40"Smoke N Mirrors"
Niceville, FL



----- Original Message -----
From: smquandt
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 5:46 AM
Subject: RE: [WanderlodgeForum] Looking to purchase used 1992 WB40


I am throwing in the towel on my Flakey Primus next week, replacing with
Webasto Scholastic Heater, see
http://www.webasto.us/am/en/am_busses_heaters_2780.html . The install will
be done by Coachcraft in Columbus GA. Talk to Kenny Rodgers if you want an
idea of cost etc for this conversion, as Leroy says not cheap. Kenny told
me that if you use this unit it will fit on the existing tray the Primus is
on and the bulk oil fill will not have to be removed. If you replace with a
larger AQUA HOT in the same position the bulk oil fill needs to go.

If you want to keep the Primus units Stephen Birtles is the person to talk
to!

NO FINANCIAL ITEREST here.

Steve Quandt

FREEZING in Iron Mountain, MI

But heading south next week!!

-8 degrees!!

_____

From: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mbrund
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 4:48 PM
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Looking to purchase used 1992 WB40

I am looking at purchasing a used 1992 WB40, I was wanting to know
what things to look out for on this year model. I was told by the
current owner that one of the Primus heaters is a little flaky, and as
I understand by reading at various places that this should be of
concern since there is only one place to get parts. He said he did
not know what the issue was as it works sometimes, and does not
others, but the other unit works all the time. New fridge. Cooktop
and washer/dryer have not been used during the current owners 10 year
term.

What other items should I look for while inspecting a coach of this
year model that might be a big ticket items?

Coach has ~140K miles ~3000 hours on 8V92, 4 years on tires (kept
inside), 4 years on GEL cells (low batt charger plugged in while in
storage).

Thanks,
Michael

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[Pete Masterson]

It's a good looking coach ... had it been available when I was
looking it would have been high on my list of units to consider. With
the new paint job, you'll find that hardly anybody (outside the BB
community) will believe that it's a 15 year old RV. (My coach is
quite similar, though a couple of years newer and with the Series 60
engine.)

The Primus heat is a concern ... but parts are available, even if
single-sourced. A steel bodied RV does need a bit more heat (when
it's cold) than, perhaps, a plastic model. (One of the trade-offs,
but I still much prefer the strength of steel.)

The main concern is vehicle mechanical condition and the wear and
tear on the various systems. If the engine hasn't been mistreated, it
is certainly good for a lot of miles beyond the 144,000 lsited. The
miles divided by the engine hours equals an average movement speed of
50 mph -- that suggest that the coach was a fair number of freeway
miles. I would plan a fairly complete servicing including oil change
and brake inspection early on.

One "watch for" is the condition of the radiator. DD engines are not
forgiving of overheating. It is common for the radiator to become
partially clogged with oily-dirt. The tendency of DD engines to spray
a bit of oil through the breather tubes makes the problem worse as
the fan often sucks the oil mist back through the radiator mixing
with dust that kicks up. This should be something that you carefully
monitor and try to clean out the radiator if it shows any blockage.
(It was very difficult to examine on my coach as it sits behind the
air-charge radiator (that cools air from the turbo charger), but
perhaps the DD 8v92 configuration allows easier viewing of the
radiator.) Simply pulling the radiator is a $2000+ job. The complete
replacement of the core may run as much as $3000+. (I also had work
done on my chassis AC -- so my tab came to about $4000 for core
replacement and the other services performed by a professional heavy
duty radiator service. Costs for work done outside California may be
more reasonable.)

Other expenses you might plan for would include new tires in a year
or two. (8 times $350~450) Also, the gel batteries have a life
expectancy of up to about 7 years... but if they've been mistreated,
they may also be next to go. I'm shopping for batteries now ... looks
like about $2100 for six size 4D AGM house batteries. I haven't
priced engine batteries (mine seem OK), but my coach has 3 AGM class
37s -- about $160 each .

Of some concern would be the refrigerator. While home refrigerators
used to run for 25-30 years, since the 80s, they've been manufactured
to only last about 10-12 years or so. It's hard to guess how long an
RV refrigerator might last -- it depends on brand, type (RV with gas
& electric option or regular home-type), and use. In particular, if
gas operated, the burner and venting is subject to corrosion.

Not as difficult, but still a modest headache would be the microwave/
convection oven ... at 15 years, it, too, may be near it's expected
life span -- or not -- again depending on use, etc.

Pete Masterson
aeonix1@...
'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42'
El Sobrante, CA




On Mar 6, 2007, at 7:30 PM, mbrund wrote:

> Leroy,
>
> Thanks for the pointer to the list at vintagebirds, I had forgotten
> about that one. I picked up a PDI list from ChanginGears that I am
> modifing to add the extra stuff the bird has I am aware of.
>
> The bird I am looking at is this one:
> http://www.birdconnection.com/showroom/d...hp?v_id=72
> It is located in Pine Bluff, Arkansas. So if there is anyone in
> that area that could assist I would greatly appreciate it. I am a
> current Fleetwood owner, and happy to say not for much longer
>
> As for the Primus, I doubt we would ever need so much heat in the
> unit that we would have to run two Primus heaters (live in Austin
> Texas), but if I ever did I guess I would need to decide do I want
> to go hydronic or stay with propane fired Primus and get it fixed.
> I like the newer AquaHot type systems since they do more than just
> heat the interior (domestic hot water, pre-heat engine, etc.), and
> may decide to go that route in the future, so would be interested in
> what the cost is to convert over to such a system.
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Leroy Eckert"
> wrote:
>>
>> There is a fairly comprehensive check list on
> http://www.vintagebirds.com. Perhaps there is a forum member near you or
> the Bird that could help. There are forum members that will do an
> inspection for a fee. What is your location?
>> As for the flaky Primus, Stephen Birtles http://www.capeinnovation.com
> can help you there. I had a flaky Primus and converted to Wabasto
> diesel fired hydronic heat. It's a little pricey but I am very
> happy with the system.
>> Now I use LP gas for the outside grill, refer(while in transit)
> and cooktop. I don't get overly concerned with LP leaks because the
> tank is off most of the time. I haven't filled the LP tank in two
> years.
>>
>> Leroy Eckert
>> 1990 WB-40"Smoke N Mirrors"
>> Niceville, FL
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: mbrund
>> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 4:48 PM
>> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Looking to purchase used 1992 WB40
>>
>>
>>
>> I am looking at purchasing a used 1992 WB40, I was wanting to
> know
>> what things to look out for on this year model. I was told by the
>> current owner that one of the Primus heaters is a little flaky,
> and as
>> I understand by reading at various places that this should be of
>> concern since there is only one place to get parts. He said he
> did
>> not know what the issue was as it works sometimes, and does not
>> others, but the other unit works all the time. New fridge.
> Cooktop
>> and washer/dryer have not been used during the current owners 10
> year
>> term.
>>
>> What other items should I look for while inspecting a coach of
> this
>> year model that might be a big ticket items?
>>
>> Coach has ~140K miles ~3000 hours on 8V92, 4 years on tires (kept
>> inside), 4 years on GEL cells (low batt charger plugged in while
> in
>> storage).
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Michael
>>
>>



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[mbrund]

Pete,

Thanks for the feedback. The batteries and tires where one of the
items on my list of concern knowing that they will require replacing
at some point in the near future and than tab would be around $5K (was
told it has GEL know, but plan to go AGM if I purchased and had to
replace them). The tires are 5 years old, but the coach has spent its
life inside when not being used. Depending on if they have ever been
curbed or run low on air, they can be extended to 9 years if not dry
rotted or thread wear, I will have to look at them close.

The fridge was replaced in the last 12 months or so, so should be no
concern there. The cooktop and washer per the current owner have not
been used since they owned it. So they need to be checked out well,
especially the washer to make sure the seals are good.

I would prefer a newer model, say '94 or so, but I have a budget and
most are asking more than I want to spend at this time. Seems many
people are trying to get retail prices for private sales, which means
they will be sitting on their units for sometime to come with the turn
down in the RV market as it is.

The paint is not new, the coach was sent from BB in primer state when
the coach was new to be custom painted. So the paint shows it age (14
years: cracked around the wheel wells, some rivets, door panels, some
rock dings, etc.).


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Pete Masterson
wrote:
>
> It's a good looking coach ... had it been available when I was
> looking it would have been high on my list of units to consider. With
> the new paint job, you'll find that hardly anybody (outside the BB
> community) will believe that it's a 15 year old RV. (My coach is
> quite similar, though a couple of years newer and with the Series 60
> engine.)
>
> The Primus heat is a concern ... but parts are available, even if
> single-sourced. A steel bodied RV does need a bit more heat (when
> it's cold) than, perhaps, a plastic model. (One of the trade-offs,
> but I still much prefer the strength of steel.)
>
> The main concern is vehicle mechanical condition and the wear and
> tear on the various systems. If the engine hasn't been mistreated, it
> is certainly good for a lot of miles beyond the 144,000 lsited. The
> miles divided by the engine hours equals an average movement speed of
> 50 mph -- that suggest that the coach was a fair number of freeway
> miles. I would plan a fairly complete servicing including oil change
> and brake inspection early on.
>
> One "watch for" is the condition of the radiator. DD engines are not
> forgiving of overheating. It is common for the radiator to become
> partially clogged with oily-dirt. The tendency of DD engines to spray
> a bit of oil through the breather tubes makes the problem worse as
> the fan often sucks the oil mist back through the radiator mixing
> with dust that kicks up. This should be something that you carefully
> monitor and try to clean out the radiator if it shows any blockage.
> (It was very difficult to examine on my coach as it sits behind the
> air-charge radiator (that cools air from the turbo charger), but
> perhaps the DD 8v92 configuration allows easier viewing of the
> radiator.) Simply pulling the radiator is a $2000+ job. The complete
> replacement of the core may run as much as $3000+. (I also had work
> done on my chassis AC -- so my tab came to about $4000 for core
> replacement and the other services performed by a professional heavy
> duty radiator service. Costs for work done outside California may be
> more reasonable.)
>
> Other expenses you might plan for would include new tires in a year
> or two. (8 times $350~450) Also, the gel batteries have a life
> expectancy of up to about 7 years... but if they've been mistreated,
> they may also be next to go. I'm shopping for batteries now ... looks
> like about $2100 for six size 4D AGM house batteries. I haven't
> priced engine batteries (mine seem OK), but my coach has 3 AGM class
> 37s -- about $160 each .
>
> Of some concern would be the refrigerator. While home refrigerators
> used to run for 25-30 years, since the 80s, they've been manufactured
> to only last about 10-12 years or so. It's hard to guess how long an
> RV refrigerator might last -- it depends on brand, type (RV with gas
> & electric option or regular home-type), and use. In particular, if
> gas operated, the burner and venting is subject to corrosion.
>
> Not as difficult, but still a modest headache would be the microwave/
> convection oven ... at 15 years, it, too, may be near it's expected
> life span -- or not -- again depending on use, etc.
>
> Pete Masterson
> aeonix1@...
> '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42'
> El Sobrante, CA
>
>
>
>
> On Mar 6, 2007, at 7:30 PM, mbrund wrote:
>
> > Leroy,
> >
> > Thanks for the pointer to the list at vintagebirds, I had forgotten
> > about that one. I picked up a PDI list from ChanginGears that I am
> > modifing to add the extra stuff the bird has I am aware of.
> >
> > The bird I am looking at is this one:
> > http://www.birdconnection.com/showroom/d...hp?v_id=72
> > It is located in Pine Bluff, Arkansas. So if there is anyone in
> > that area that could assist I would greatly appreciate it. I am a
> > current Fleetwood owner, and happy to say not for much longer
> >
> > As for the Primus, I doubt we would ever need so much heat in the
> > unit that we would have to run two Primus heaters (live in Austin
> > Texas), but if I ever did I guess I would need to decide do I want
> > to go hydronic or stay with propane fired Primus and get it fixed.
> > I like the newer AquaHot type systems since they do more than just
> > heat the interior (domestic hot water, pre-heat engine, etc.), and
> > may decide to go that route in the future, so would be interested in
> > what the cost is to convert over to such a system.
> >
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Leroy Eckert"
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> There is a fairly comprehensive check list on
> > http://www.vintagebirds.com. Perhaps there is a forum member near you or
> > the Bird that could help. There are forum members that will do an
> > inspection for a fee. What is your location?
> >> As for the flaky Primus, Stephen Birtles http://www.capeinnovation.com
> > can help you there. I had a flaky Primus and converted to Wabasto
> > diesel fired hydronic heat. It's a little pricey but I am very
> > happy with the system.
> >> Now I use LP gas for the outside grill, refer(while in transit)
> > and cooktop. I don't get overly concerned with LP leaks because the
> > tank is off most of the time. I haven't filled the LP tank in two
> > years.
> >>
> >> Leroy Eckert
> >> 1990 WB-40"Smoke N Mirrors"
> >> Niceville, FL
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: mbrund
> >> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> >> Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 4:48 PM
> >> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Looking to purchase used 1992 WB40
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I am looking at purchasing a used 1992 WB40, I was wanting to
> > know
> >> what things to look out for on this year model. I was told by the
> >> current owner that one of the Primus heaters is a little flaky,
> > and as
> >> I understand by reading at various places that this should be of
> >> concern since there is only one place to get parts. He said he
> > did
> >> not know what the issue was as it works sometimes, and does not
> >> others, but the other unit works all the time. New fridge.
> > Cooktop
> >> and washer/dryer have not been used during the current owners 10
> > year
> >> term.
> >>
> >> What other items should I look for while inspecting a coach of
> > this
> >> year model that might be a big ticket items?
> >>
> >> Coach has ~140K miles ~3000 hours on 8V92, 4 years on tires (kept
> >> inside), 4 years on GEL cells (low batt charger plugged in while
> > in
> >> storage).
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Michael
> >>
> >>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

[rwoodysurplus]

Hey my neck of the woods

Im on tdy in fla right now but will be back over the weekend

I will ck this out for you if need be

WOODY
2 bird club for sale

81 fc rb
90sp keeper today













--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "mbrund" <mbrund@...> wrote:
>
> Leroy,
>
> Thanks for the pointer to the list at vintagebirds, I had forgotten
> about that one. I picked up a PDI list from ChanginGears that I am
> modifing to add the extra stuff the bird has I am aware of.
>
> The bird I am looking at is this one:
> http://www.birdconnection.com/showroom/d...hp?v_id=72
> It is located in Pine Bluff, Arkansas. So if there is anyone in
> that area that could assist I would greatly appreciate it. I am a
> current Fleetwood owner, and happy to say not for much longer
>
> As for the Primus, I doubt we would ever need so much heat in the
> unit that we would have to run two Primus heaters (live in Austin
> Texas), but if I ever did I guess I would need to decide do I want
> to go hydronic or stay with propane fired Primus and get it fixed.
> I like the newer AquaHot type systems since they do more than just
> heat the interior (domestic hot water, pre-heat engine, etc.), and
> may decide to go that route in the future, so would be interested in
> what the cost is to convert over to such a system.
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Leroy Eckert"
> wrote:
> >
> > There is a fairly comprehensive check list on
> http://www.vintagebirds.com. Perhaps there is a forum member near you or
> the Bird that could help. There are forum members that will do an
> inspection for a fee. What is your location?
> > As for the flaky Primus, Stephen Birtles http://www.capeinnovation.com
> can help you there. I had a flaky Primus and converted to Wabasto
> diesel fired hydronic heat. It's a little pricey but I am very
> happy with the system.
> > Now I use LP gas for the outside grill, refer(while in transit)
> and cooktop. I don't get overly concerned with LP leaks because the
> tank is off most of the time. I haven't filled the LP tank in two
> years.
> >
> > Leroy Eckert
> > 1990 WB-40"Smoke N Mirrors"
> > Niceville, FL
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: mbrund
> > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 4:48 PM
> > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Looking to purchase used 1992 WB40
> >
> >
> >
> > I am looking at purchasing a used 1992 WB40, I was wanting to
> know
> > what things to look out for on this year model. I was told by the
> > current owner that one of the Primus heaters is a little flaky,
> and as
> > I understand by reading at various places that this should be of
> > concern since there is only one place to get parts. He said he
> did
> > not know what the issue was as it works sometimes, and does not
> > others, but the other unit works all the time. New fridge.
> Cooktop
> > and washer/dryer have not been used during the current owners 10
> year
> > term.
> >
> > What other items should I look for while inspecting a coach of
> this
> > year model that might be a big ticket items?
> >
> > Coach has ~140K miles ~3000 hours on 8V92, 4 years on tires (kept
> > inside), 4 years on GEL cells (low batt charger plugged in while
> in
> > storage).
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Michael
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>