Generator woes

[Julia Bonser]

We have been at Cummins/Onan in Spokane for 3 1/2 hours and are not
better off. They figured out there is no electrical output from the
generator (which we already knew). There is no electricity getting to
the transfer switch and the technician said he would have to pull the
generator to trouble shot what was wrong with the armature and
windings. It makes more sense to find a place that is familiar with
this generating system and of course by now all the information is at
places in the Eastern time zone and it is after working hours.

We need to know where in either Portland or Seattle there is a
electric generator repair shop. There is nothing in the manual that
recommends service centers for the Fidelity Electric Continuous Duty
Alternator.


Julie Bonser
1992 WLWB PT 40'

[bobloomas]

----- Original Message -----
From: Julia Bonser
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com ; Wanderlodge@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 4:44 PM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Generator woes
Julie in your 92 dont you have a power teck generator if so in the AM i would
call them @
800-760-0077.
Good luck Bob Loomas 85 PT 36


We have been at Cummins/Onan in Spokane for 3 1/2 hours and are not
better off. They figured out there is no electrical output from the
generator (which we already knew). There is no electricity getting to
the transfer switch and the technician said he would have to pull the
generator to trouble shot what was wrong with the armature and
windings. It makes more sense to find a place that is familiar with
this generating system and of course by now all the information is at
places in the Eastern time zone and it is after working hours.

We need to know where in either Portland or Seattle there is a
electric generator repair shop. There is nothing in the manual that
recommends service centers for the Fidelity Electric Continuous Duty
Alternator.


Julie Bonser
1992 WLWB PT 40'





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[Donald Goodwin]

Make sure the breaker on the backside of generator
Is not tripped

Donny Goodwin
2003LXI

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Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 3:45 PM
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Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Generator woes

We have been at Cummins/Onan in Spokane for 3 1/2 hours and are not
better off. They figured out there is no electrical output from the
generator (which we already knew). There is no electricity getting to
the transfer switch and the technician said he would have to pull the
generator to trouble shot what was wrong with the armature and
windings. It makes more sense to find a place that is familiar with
this generating system and of course by now all the information is at
places in the Eastern time zone and it is after working hours.

We need to know where in either Portland or Seattle there is a
electric generator repair shop. There is nothing in the manual that
recommends service centers for the Fidelity Electric Continuous Duty
Alternator.


Julie Bonser
1992 WLWB PT 40'





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[Marv & Jean Wheeler]

This is some of the generator repair people in Washington. I know
nothing about any of them. I might be worth a call however.

WASHINGTON
Inland Generator
East 1802 Riverside
Spokane, WA 99202
Ph(509)534-0771
Contact: Michael Stange

Poppleton Electric
969 S Nebraska St
Seattle, WA 98108
Ph(206)762-9160

Boltons Power Equip.
4941 Hwy 303 NE
Bremerton, WA 98311
Ph(360)373-2113
Fx(360)792-0876

Marv
2004 M380
Ocean Shores, WA


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, bobloomas
wrote:
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Julia Bonser
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com ;
Wanderlodge@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 4:44 PM
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Generator woes
> Julie in your 92 dont you have a power teck generator if so in
the AM i would call them @
> 800-760-0077.
> Good luck Bob Loomas 85 PT 36
>
>
> We have been at Cummins/Onan in Spokane for 3 1/2 hours and are
not
> better off. They figured out there is no electrical output from
the
> generator (which we already knew). There is no electricity
getting to
> the transfer switch and the technician said he would have to pull
the
> generator to trouble shot what was wrong with the armature and
> windings. It makes more sense to find a place that is familiar
with
> this generating system and of course by now all the information
is at
> places in the Eastern time zone and it is after working hours.
>
> We need to know where in either Portland or Seattle there is a
> electric generator repair shop. There is nothing in the manual
that
> recommends service centers for the Fidelity Electric Continuous
Duty
> Alternator.
>
>
> Julie Bonser
> 1992 WLWB PT 40'
>
>
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[George Lowry]

Julie,

We have been off line until today so couldn't answer sooner. Wrico
Generators in Eugene, OR uses the Fidelity Alternator and Dick is very
knowledgeable of the generators. Suggest you try them if you have not
got service any other place. Voice: (541) 744-4333 Wrico
International, LLC
86337 College View Rd.
Eugene, OR 97405

http://www.wricointernational.com

Hope this helps,

George


Julia Bonser wrote:

> We have been at Cummins/Onan in Spokane for 3 1/2 hours and are not
> better off. They figured out there is no electrical output from the
> generator (which we already knew). There is no electricity getting
> to the transfer switch and the technician said he would have to pull
> the generator to trouble shot what was wrong with the armature and
> windings. It makes more sense to find a place that is familiar with
> this generating system and of course by now all the information is
> at places in the Eastern time zone and it is after working hours.
>
> We need to know where in either Portland or Seattle there is a
> electric generator repair shop. There is nothing in the manual that
> recommends service centers for the Fidelity Electric Continuous Duty
> Alternator.
>
>
> Julie Bonser 1992 WLWB PT 40'
>
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[tdesgranges]

Hello Everyone!

Long time since I've been here..... I'm having a problem again with my
Generator on the '87 Wanderlodge.... I had Kohler work on it for a
week, misdiagnosed the problem and now I'm in a worse jam. The
bearing seazed and the main shaft that holds the Generator to the
Engine snapped. The Kohler repairman informed me that it was an
injector problem, installed a new starter and handed me a $2,200.00
bill. After I finished pouting, which took about 2 months, I'm ready
to start looking for someone in the South Florida Area, preferably
Miami, to do the job. I know the Diesel Engine is in good shape, and I
had a new Generator portion installed about 4 years ago. We will be
heading back North in about a month and sure would like to have an
operational Generator prior to departure. Any help sure would be
appreciated. Thanks!!!
Todd Desgranges
87Wanderlodge40
Stuart, FL

[Eric Johnson]

Todd,
From your story, I'm pretty sure you've decided to stick with the original
Kohler generator
since you've put quite a bit of effort and money into it. However, you may want
to
consider replacing the whole unit with a new diesel generator from Powertech.
You don't
have to shell out many $2,200 repair bills before you've bought a new generator.
Powertech's factory is located in Leesburg Florida. They're easy to work with.
They let us
stay in our coach overnight at the plant while they did an install for us.
Eric in San Antonio
84FC35SBWL2

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "tdesgranges" wrote:
>
> Hello Everyone!
>
> Long time since I've been here..... I'm having a problem again with my
> Generator on the '87 Wanderlodge.... I had Kohler work on it for a
> week, misdiagnosed the problem and now I'm in a worse jam. The
> bearing seazed and the main shaft that holds the Generator to the
> Engine snapped. The Kohler repairman informed me that it was an
> injector problem, installed a new starter and handed me a $2,200.00
> bill. After I finished pouting, which took about 2 months, I'm ready
> to start looking for someone in the South Florida Area, preferably
> Miami, to do the job. I know the Diesel Engine is in good shape, and I
> had a new Generator portion installed about 4 years ago. We will be
> heading back North in about a month and sure would like to have an
> operational Generator prior to departure. Any help sure would be
> appreciated. Thanks!!!
> Todd Desgranges
> 87Wanderlodge40
> Stuart, FL
>

[Gregory OConnor]

Todd, A good local resource for repair on many engine driven items is
a owner operated equipment rental yard. These folks develop a keen
sence for; 'cause of failure','diagnostic for repair','inhouserepair
ability or out-source contacts'. Factory rep repair facilities are
too much into remove and replace.

For the bearing to fail in such a short time, something was
overlooked. Did they replace the old genhead four years ago without
repairing the cause of the oldgenhead failure??? I wonder if the
direct drive has a coupler???? Was the old coupler key used??? Is it
key failure???? I wonder if the mounts on the genhead were changed (
with the new unit) but the mounts on the engine remained soft and the
difference caused raidial stress on the bearing?????? Was the genhead
torqued down to spec?? Did any of the install bolts bottom out??? I
wonder if there is a key (alignment pin) in the bellhouse to the
genhead that was not installed????

When replacing bearings, sometimes repairmen only go for size of fit
and overlook environment. (bearings in a oilbath case are different
than bearings engineered for a hot dry saddle). You should get MFG
specs for the bearing and not trust the code on the failed bearing!!!!
Look for a crack in the bearing saddle???

Starter failure is often due to low battery charge start ups. Low
battery startup is a derived event if your genset uses the house bank
to start. Most starters can be taken in to a specility shop and
rebuilt for less than $200.

Good luck with your repair. Remember to also repair "the cause of
failure"

GregoryO'Connor
94ptRomolandCa

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "tdesgranges"
wrote:
>
> Hello Everyone!
>
> Long time since I've been here..... I'm having a problem again
with my
> Generator on the '87 Wanderlodge.... I had Kohler work on it for a
> week, misdiagnosed the problem and now I'm in a worse jam. The
> bearing seazed and the main shaft that holds the Generator to the
> Engine snapped. The Kohler repairman informed me that it was an
> injector problem, installed a new starter and handed me a $2,200.00
> bill. After I finished pouting, which took about 2 months, I'm
ready
> to start looking for someone in the South Florida Area, preferably
> Miami, to do the job. I know the Diesel Engine is in good shape,
and I
> had a new Generator portion installed about 4 years ago. We will
be
> heading back North in about a month and sure would like to have an
> operational Generator prior to departure. Any help sure would be
> appreciated. Thanks!!!
> Todd Desgranges
> 87Wanderlodge40
> Stuart, FL
>

[putneyflash@...>]

Eric: If its a perkins engine a caterpillar daeler generator shop may be able to
help.

RE in Georgia
>
> From: "Eric Johnson"
> Date: 2007/03/07 Wed AM 09:06:10 EST
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Generator Woes
>
> Todd,
> From your story, I'm pretty sure you've decided to stick with the original
Kohler generator
> since you've put quite a bit of effort and money into it. However, you may
want to
> consider replacing the whole unit with a new diesel generator from Powertech.
You don't
> have to shell out many $2,200 repair bills before you've bought a new
generator.
> Powertech's factory is located in Leesburg Florida. They're easy to work
with. They let us
> stay in our coach overnight at the plant while they did an install for us.
> Eric in San Antonio
> 84FC35SBWL2
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "tdesgranges" wrote:
> >
> > Hello Everyone!
> >
> > Long time since I've been here..... I'm having a problem again with my
> > Generator on the '87 Wanderlodge.... I had Kohler work on it for a
> > week, misdiagnosed the problem and now I'm in a worse jam. The
> > bearing seazed and the main shaft that holds the Generator to the
> > Engine snapped. The Kohler repairman informed me that it was an
> > injector problem, installed a new starter and handed me a $2,200.00
> > bill. After I finished pouting, which took about 2 months, I'm ready
> > to start looking for someone in the South Florida Area, preferably
> > Miami, to do the job. I know the Diesel Engine is in good shape, and I
> > had a new Generator portion installed about 4 years ago. We will be
> > heading back North in about a month and sure would like to have an
> > operational Generator prior to departure. Any help sure would be
> > appreciated. Thanks!!!
> > Todd Desgranges
> > 87Wanderlodge40
> > Stuart, FL
> >
>
>
>
>

[Todd Desgranges]

Hello Eric,
I've been thinking about the new replacement because we depend on the unit so
much. Did you install a new 12.5K or a different size? What did your new
generator and installation cost? Also, did you keep the remote radiator, or get
an all inclusive generator in its own case? If I'm going to be keeping this
Coach for awhile, that might be my best bet. Thanks for all your help!

Todd Desgranges


Eric Johnson wrote:
Todd,
From your story, I'm pretty sure you've decided to stick with the original
Kohler generator
since you've put quite a bit of effort and money into it. However, you may want
to
consider replacing the whole unit with a new diesel generator from Powertech.
You don't
have to shell out many $2,200 repair bills before you've bought a new generator.
Powertech's factory is located in Leesburg Florida. They're easy to work with.
They let us
stay in our coach overnight at the plant while they did an install for us.
Eric in San Antonio
84FC35SBWL2

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "tdesgranges" wrote:
>
> Hello Everyone!
>
> Long time since I've been here..... I'm having a problem again with my
> Generator on the '87 Wanderlodge.... I had Kohler work on it for a
> week, misdiagnosed the problem and now I'm in a worse jam. The
> bearing seazed and the main shaft that holds the Generator to the
> Engine snapped. The Kohler repairman informed me that it was an
> injector problem, installed a new starter and handed me a $2,200.00
> bill. After I finished pouting, which took about 2 months, I'm ready
> to start looking for someone in the South Florida Area, preferably
> Miami, to do the job. I know the Diesel Engine is in good shape, and I
> had a new Generator portion installed about 4 years ago. We will be
> heading back North in about a month and sure would like to have an
> operational Generator prior to departure. Any help sure would be
> appreciated. Thanks!!!
> Todd Desgranges
> 87Wanderlodge40
> Stuart, FL
>






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