Update - Thermostat and radiator service, with 6,000 pound in tow.

[Gregory OConnor]

Curt, Deja Vu , I must have inhaled brakeCleaner or read this
someother place.
After Captn' KevinMc, my bus is next.

GregoryO'Connor
94PTRomolandCa

> Update...The past few days I ran the bus about 400 miles, 6,000
pounds
> > > in tow, outside temperature in the 80's. On the flat the coolant
> > > temperature run 180-185, oil temperature 220. Climbing
Whitewater Grade
> > > out of Palm Springs, 40 mph head wind, the coolant temperature
got up to
> > > 190 degrees, oil just over 230. I'd say changing the
thermostats and
> > > clean/rodding the radiator was a good thing to do.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Curt Sprenger
> > > 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> > > Anaheim Hills, Calif.
> > >
> > >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
>

[Curt Sprenger]

Greg,
Deja Vu...that posting is about the same as my short trial run after all
the work. You have a good memory.

After Captn' KevinMc, my bus is next. That works for me. Haven't heard
anymore from Kevin.

Did Derek get the hyd fan problem resolved? Did dad & mom get to go on
their trip? Hope all worked out.

Did you hear any more from Rob Robinson, dates he plans to be at your
place, etc?

Curt Sprenger
1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
Anaheim Hills, Calif.



Gregory OConnor wrote:

> Curt, Deja Vu , I must have inhaled brakeCleaner or read this
> someother place.
> After Captn' KevinMc, my bus is next.
>
> GregoryO'Connor
> 94PTRomolandCa
>
> > Update...The past few days I ran the bus about 400 miles, 6,000
> pounds
> > > > in tow, outside temperature in the 80's. On the flat the coolant
> > > > temperature run 180-185, oil temperature 220. Climbing
> Whitewater Grade
> > > > out of Palm Springs, 40 mph head wind, the coolant temperature
> got up to
> > > > 190 degrees, oil just over 230. I'd say changing the
> thermostats and
> > > > clean/rodding the radiator was a good thing to do.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Curt Sprenger
> > > > 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> > > > Anaheim Hills, Calif.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>

[Terry Neal]

Evening Curt,

My guess is the correlation for much of the cooling system repairs on
these Detroits would be best expressed in terms of years rather than
miles. Most automotive heating/cooling hoses have a "safe" life around
maybe 5-7 years in my opinion. These are all original hoses etc that I
am replacing so feel am pushing my luck in running them any longer on
the coach. The rad core was shot, maybe it would have lasted another
5,000 miles but I seriously doubt it.

I pulled the turbo & blower off for better access to all the other
parts. Figured I might as well rebuild them & replace all the bearings
while at it. Also had a gasket failure at the blower mounting flange.

I do have a history for all the work on the coach & it was pretty
complete when I purchased it.

The coach is parked at my Land Rover shop in Billings. Plugged into
240-50 amp service & water & sewer hookups. I have done some of the
work on it myself but also have employees that work on it when time permits.

It's also getting stripped and is about ready for repaint when it warms
up some.

Plan to be able to use it quite a lot when it's all finished.

Mexico is calling...The report is that they have some beer & tequila
left down there.

Terry Neal
Bozeman, MT
82PT40 6V92TA
74FC34 6V53T



Curt Sprenger wrote:

> Terry,
> I wonder if a correlation could be established between engine miles and
> the coolant/fuel hose, pump, maintenance requirements. Would be useful
> to other 'Bird owners for sure.
>
> You are doing a lot of work on your engine. What is the rational for the
> blower and turbo work? Do you have the maintenance history on your coach?
>
> You must have a shop to park your bus and work on it.
>
> Curt Sprenger
> 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> Anaheim Hills, Calif.
>
> Terry Neal wrote:
>
> > Curt, it has 171,000 on it which appears pretty close from the Hobbs
> > hour meter. Went through all the upper part of the engine. Rebuilt or
> > replaced the blower, turbo, water pump, fuel pump, Charge air cooler,
> > etc. Resetting the fuel rails now & putting it all back together.
> >
> > Terry Neal
> > Bozeman, MT
> > 82PT40 6V92TA
> > 74FC34 6V53T
> >
> > Curt Sprenger wrote:
> >
> > > Terry,
> > > Please keep us posted.
> > > How many miles on your engine?
> > >
> > > Curt Sprenger
> > > 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> > > Anaheim Hills, Calif.
> > >
> > > Terry Neal wrote:
> > >
> > > > Sounds like you did the right thing replacing all of those parts.
> > > > That's what I did on mine too. Plus new water pump & new rad core
> > > > (increased cooling capacity 15%). When it warms up some, will
> take it
> > > > out on I90 to see what it runs at now.
> > > >
> > > > Terry Neal
> > > > Bozeman, MT
> > > > 82PT40 6V92TA
> > > > 74FC34 6V53T
> > > >
> > > > Curt Sprenger wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Update...The past few days I ran the bus about 400 miles, 6,000
> > pounds
> > > > > in tow, outside temperature in the 80's. On the flat the coolant
> > > > > temperature run 180-185, oil temperature 220. Climbing Whitewater
> > > Grade
> > > > > out of Palm Springs, 40 mph head wind, the coolant temperature got
> > > up to
> > > > > 190 degrees, oil just over 230. I'd say changing the
> thermostats and
> > > > > clean/rodding the radiator was a good thing to do.
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Curt Sprenger
> > > > > 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> > > > > Anaheim Hills, Calif.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
>
>



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Terry Neal]

Thanks for the tips Jimmy. I will try & remember to check everything
periodically. Figure the hoses that are silicone will last a few years
but the normal coolant stuff will get replaced every couple of years.

My shop guys just really hate to see me bring something else through the
door. Between all my toys, cars, trucks & the boat, they have a pretty
wide variety of iron to keep running.

Terry Neal
Bozeman, MT
82PT40 6V92TA
74FC34 6V53T



James Harvie wrote:

> Terry, I'd say change your hoses every other year, If you drive it or
> not. Also don't be afraid to use a nutdriver and go over your hose
> clamps often. Those Detriots vibrate a lot so I used to throw a wrench
> on all of the engine bolts, on the ones I used to own, expecially the
> oil cooler. I use Permetex #2 non hardening goo goo on all of my
> connections. One thing to remember is always put it on the male end,
> so none gets inside Good luck!
> Jimmy Harvie
> Curt Sprenger > > wrote: 82FC Boston Ma Terry,
> I wonder if a correlation could be established between engine miles and
> the coolant/fuel hose, pump, maintenance requirements. Would be useful
> to other 'Bird owners for sure.
>
> You are doing a lot of work on your engine. What is the rational for the
> blower and turbo work? Do you have the maintenance history on your coach?
>
> You must have a shop to park your bus and work on it.
>
> Curt Sprenger
> 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> Anaheim Hills, Calif.
>
> Terry Neal wrote:
>
> > Curt, it has 171,000 on it which appears pretty close from the Hobbs
> > hour meter. Went through all the upper part of the engine. Rebuilt or
> > replaced the blower, turbo, water pump, fuel pump, Charge air cooler,
> > etc. Resetting the fuel rails now & putting it all back together.
> >
> > Terry Neal
> > Bozeman, MT
> > 82PT40 6V92TA
> > 74FC34 6V53T
> >
> > Curt Sprenger wrote:
> >
> > > Terry,
> > > Please keep us posted.
> > > How many miles on your engine?
> > >
> > > Curt Sprenger
> > > 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> > > Anaheim Hills, Calif.
> > >
> > > Terry Neal wrote:
> > >
> > > > Sounds like you did the right thing replacing all of those parts.
> > > > That's what I did on mine too. Plus new water pump & new rad core
> > > > (increased cooling capacity 15%). When it warms up some, will
> take it
> > > > out on I90 to see what it runs at now.
> > > >
> > > > Terry Neal
> > > > Bozeman, MT
> > > > 82PT40 6V92TA
> > > > 74FC34 6V53T
> > > >
> > > > Curt Sprenger wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Update...The past few days I ran the bus about 400 miles, 6,000
> > pounds
> > > > > in tow, outside temperature in the 80's. On the flat the coolant
> > > > > temperature run 180-185, oil temperature 220. Climbing Whitewater
> > > Grade
> > > > > out of Palm Springs, 40 mph head wind, the coolant temperature got
> > > up to
> > > > > 190 degrees, oil just over 230. I'd say changing the
> thermostats and
> > > > > clean/rodding the radiator was a good thing to do.
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Curt Sprenger
> > > > > 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> > > > > Anaheim Hills, Calif.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
>
> ---------------------------------
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> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>



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[Terry Neal]

I would call it preventative maintenance George. The engine runs real
strong. Ernie has driven it & says it is in top shape. After buying
the coach, I wanted to have a comfort level for the condition of all
systems and major components so I have a base line to work from.

No major problems with anything, just started out replacing things such
as the original battery charger/boilers & kept going from there. We're
remodeling the interior & repainting the exterior too. It's kind of in
my blood I guess to bring old things back to life.

Terry Neal
Bozeman, MT
82PT40 6V92TA
74FC34 6V53T



gnburke@... wrote:

> Terry, I have missed some posts here. What happened that you had to go
> into a DD6V92TA with only 171000 miles. Those engines are barely
> broken in at that point. I have not known of many failing with what
> would be considered low milage for that engine. On my part, since
> joining this forum in Dec., I have been more alarmed at the failure
> rate of the Cats, at fairly low milage. Good luck with the repairs,
> George Burke, 1977FC31 Charlotte
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Terry Neal
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
>
> Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 8:33 PM
> Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Update - Thermostat and radiator
> service, with 6,000 pound in tow.
>
> Curt, it has 171,000 on it which appears pretty close from the Hobbs
> hour meter. Went through all the upper part of the engine. Rebuilt or
> replaced the blower, turbo, water pump, fuel pump, Charge air cooler,
> etc. Resetting the fuel rails now & putting it all back together.
>
> Terry Neal
> Bozeman, MT
> 82PT40 6V92TA
> 74FC34 6V53T
>
> Curt Sprenger wrote:
>
> > Terry,
> > Please keep us posted.
> > How many miles on your engine?
> >
> > Curt Sprenger
> > 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> > Anaheim Hills, Calif.
> >
> > Terry Neal wrote:
> >
> > > Sounds like you did the right thing replacing all of those parts.
> > > That's what I did on mine too. Plus new water pump & new rad core
> > > (increased cooling capacity 15%). When it warms up some, will take it
> > > out on I90 to see what it runs at now.
> > >
> > > Terry Neal
> > > Bozeman, MT
> > > 82PT40 6V92TA
> > > 74FC34 6V53T
> > >
> > > Curt Sprenger wrote:
> > >
> > > > Update...The past few days I ran the bus about 400 miles, 6,000
> pounds
> > > > in tow, outside temperature in the 80's. On the flat the coolant
> > > > temperature run 180-185, oil temperature 220. Climbing Whitewater
> > Grade
> > > > out of Palm Springs, 40 mph head wind, the coolant temperature got
> > up to
> > > > 190 degrees, oil just over 230. I'd say changing the thermostats and
> > > > clean/rodding the radiator was a good thing to do.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Curt Sprenger
> > > > 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> > > > Anaheim Hills, Calif.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Curt Sprenger]

Terry,
I like your way of thinking...same as mine. You are doing it right.
Please take before/after pictures of your coach. We'd all like to see them.

"The report is that they have some beer & tequila left down
there"..Let's get a group party going. It doesn't need to take place
soon, but some day, just needs planing.

Curt Sprenger
1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
Anaheim Hills, Calif.



Terry Neal wrote:

> Evening Curt,
>
> My guess is the correlation for much of the cooling system repairs on
> these Detroits would be best expressed in terms of years rather than
> miles. Most automotive heating/cooling hoses have a "safe" life around
> maybe 5-7 years in my opinion. These are all original hoses etc that I
> am replacing so feel am pushing my luck in running them any longer on
> the coach. The rad core was shot, maybe it would have lasted another
> 5,000 miles but I seriously doubt it.
>
> I pulled the turbo & blower off for better access to all the other
> parts. Figured I might as well rebuild them & replace all the bearings
> while at it. Also had a gasket failure at the blower mounting flange.
>
> I do have a history for all the work on the coach & it was pretty
> complete when I purchased it.
>
> The coach is parked at my Land Rover shop in Billings. Plugged into
> 240-50 amp service & water & sewer hookups. I have done some of the
> work on it myself but also have employees that work on it when time
> permits.
>
> It's also getting stripped and is about ready for repaint when it warms
> up some.
>
> Plan to be able to use it quite a lot when it's all finished.
>
> Mexico is calling...The report is that they have some beer & tequila
> left down there.
>
> Terry Neal
> Bozeman, MT
> 82PT40 6V92TA
> 74FC34 6V53T
>
> Curt Sprenger wrote:
>
> > Terry,
> > I wonder if a correlation could be established between engine miles and
> > the coolant/fuel hose, pump, maintenance requirements. Would be useful
> > to other 'Bird owners for sure.
> >
> > You are doing a lot of work on your engine. What is the rational for the
> > blower and turbo work? Do you have the maintenance history on your
> coach?
> >
> > You must have a shop to park your bus and work on it.
> >
> > Curt Sprenger
> > 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> > Anaheim Hills, Calif.
> >
> > Terry Neal wrote:
> >
> > > Curt, it has 171,000 on it which appears pretty close from the Hobbs
> > > hour meter. Went through all the upper part of the engine. Rebuilt or
> > > replaced the blower, turbo, water pump, fuel pump, Charge air cooler,
> > > etc. Resetting the fuel rails now & putting it all back together.
> > >
> > > Terry Neal
> > > Bozeman, MT
> > > 82PT40 6V92TA
> > > 74FC34 6V53T
> > >
> > > Curt Sprenger wrote:
> > >
> > > > Terry,
> > > > Please keep us posted.
> > > > How many miles on your engine?
> > > >
> > > > Curt Sprenger
> > > > 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> > > > Anaheim Hills, Calif.
> > > >
> > > > Terry Neal wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Sounds like you did the right thing replacing all of those parts.
> > > > > That's what I did on mine too. Plus new water pump & new rad core
> > > > > (increased cooling capacity 15%). When it warms up some, will
> > take it
> > > > > out on I90 to see what it runs at now.
> > > > >
> > > > > Terry Neal
> > > > > Bozeman, MT
> > > > > 82PT40 6V92TA
> > > > > 74FC34 6V53T
> > > > >
> > > > > Curt Sprenger wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Update...The past few days I ran the bus about 400 miles, 6,000
> > > pounds
> > > > > > in tow, outside temperature in the 80's. On the flat the coolant
> > > > > > temperature run 180-185, oil temperature 220. Climbing
> Whitewater
> > > > Grade
> > > > > > out of Palm Springs, 40 mph head wind, the coolant
> temperature got
> > > > up to
> > > > > > 190 degrees, oil just over 230. I'd say changing the
> > thermostats and
> > > > > > clean/rodding the radiator was a good thing to do.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Curt Sprenger
> > > > > > 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> > > > > > Anaheim Hills, Calif.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>

[Larry]

Tom,
This is what we know going into the purchase of these BlueBirds... I think I can
say for a number of us we have a stash in place for this event, if it so
happens... Its only rhetoric, after...

Sea Ya
Larry
NYC
84 35FCSB

----- Original Message ----
From: warbucks13477
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 10:10:54 PM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Update - Thermostat and radiator service, with
6,000 pound in tow.













I doubt there is any correlation between maintenance on an engine

used in RV service on one coach relative to any other coach and/or on

an RV engine versus one used in over the road class 8 truck service.

After talking to diesel mechanics, coach owners and truck owners

there appears to be a vast difference in the way the engines are

regularly driven and serviced which I believe is the main reason so

many of our engines are overhauled or replaced at such low mileages.

From what I have seen it is not unusual for our coaches to sit for

months at a time between uses which is not good.



If you look over the various internet sites where RVs are sold it is

not unusual to see engines replaced long before the average service

life of the engines detailed in the manufacturers manuals.



The same appears to be consistent with transmissions, radiators etc.

Two things you can do to minimize the problems with your coach, first

use it as much as possible, and/or start it up and drive it a few

miles at least once a month EXCEPT if it is stored for the winter.

Secondly do the regularly scheduled maintenance, including filters,

air dryers etc and dont over stress the engine by lugging it.



tom warner

now in florida

1985 PT 40 running perfectly



because of the --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, Curt Sprenger

wrote:

>

> Terry,

> I wonder if a correlation could be established between engine miles

and

> the coolant/fuel hose, pump, maintenance requirements. Would be

useful

> to other 'Bird owners for sure.

>

> You are doing a lot of work on your engine. What is the rational

for the

> blower and turbo work? Do you have the maintenance history on your

coach?

>

> You must have a shop to park your bus and work on it.

>

> Curt Sprenger

> 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"

> Anaheim Hills, Calif.

>

>

>

> Terry Neal wrote:

>

> > Curt, it has 171,000 on it which appears pretty close from the

Hobbs

> > hour meter. Went through all the upper part of the engine.

Rebuilt or

> > replaced the blower, turbo, water pump, fuel pump, Charge air

cooler,

> > etc. Resetting the fuel rails now & putting it all back together.

> >

> > Terry Neal

> > Bozeman, MT

> > 82PT40 6V92TA

> > 74FC34 6V53T

> >

> > Curt Sprenger wrote:

> >

> > > Terry,

> > > Please keep us posted.

> > > How many miles on your engine?

> > >

> > > Curt Sprenger

> > > 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"

> > > Anaheim Hills, Calif.

> > >

> > > Terry Neal wrote:

> > >

> > > > Sounds like you did the right thing replacing all of those

parts.

> > > > That's what I did on mine too. Plus new water pump & new rad

core

> > > > (increased cooling capacity 15%). When it warms up some, will

take it

> > > > out on I90 to see what it runs at now.

> > > >

> > > > Terry Neal

> > > > Bozeman, MT

> > > > 82PT40 6V92TA

> > > > 74FC34 6V53T

> > > >

> > > > Curt Sprenger wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > Update...The past few days I ran the bus about 400 miles,

6,000

> > pounds

> > > > > in tow, outside temperature in the 80's. On the flat the

coolant

> > > > > temperature run 180-185, oil temperature 220. Climbing

Whitewater

> > > Grade

> > > > > out of Palm Springs, 40 mph head wind, the coolant

temperature got

> > > up to

> > > > > 190 degrees, oil just over 230. I'd say changing the

thermostats and

> > > > > clean/rodding the radiator was a good thing to do.

> > > > >

> > > > > --

> > > > > Curt Sprenger

> > > > > 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"

> > > > > Anaheim Hills, Calif.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

> >

> >

>














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[Gregory OConnor]

Curt, I dont think dad wanted us working on the bus. Someone pointed
out that we started drinking when we showed up and we both took off
when the fridg was empty. BB said the fan motor could be removed
without pulling the rad??? I think they are still in YorbaLinda.

Rob and Sue will be here around April 6. We should have a mini rally.

GregoryO'Connor
94ptRomolandCa


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Curt Sprenger
wrote:
>
> Greg,
> Deja Vu...that posting is about the same as my short trial run
after all
> the work. You have a good memory.
>
> After Captn' KevinMc, my bus is next. That works for me. Haven't
heard
> anymore from Kevin.
>
> Did Derek get the hyd fan problem resolved? Did dad & mom get to go
on
> their trip? Hope all worked out.
>
> Did you hear any more from Rob Robinson, dates he plans to be at
your
> place, etc?
>
> Curt Sprenger
> 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> Anaheim Hills, Calif.
>
>
>
> Gregory OConnor wrote:
>
> > Curt, Deja Vu , I must have inhaled brakeCleaner or read this
> > someother place.
> > After Captn' KevinMc, my bus is next.
> >
> > GregoryO'Connor
> > 94PTRomolandCa
> >
> > > Update...The past few days I ran the bus about 400 miles, 6,000
> > pounds
> > > > > in tow, outside temperature in the 80's. On the flat the
coolant
> > > > > temperature run 180-185, oil temperature 220. Climbing
> > Whitewater Grade
> > > > > out of Palm Springs, 40 mph head wind, the coolant
temperature
> > got up to
> > > > > 190 degrees, oil just over 230. I'd say changing the
> > thermostats and
> > > > > clean/rodding the radiator was a good thing to do.
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Curt Sprenger
> > > > > 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> > > > > Anaheim Hills, Calif.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
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> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
>

[Terry Neal]

Hi Curt,

I will put the before/after pictures together for the forum. I vote for
a Mexico group party too! As you say, planning may take a while but if
we start now, sure that it can work out so many can attend.

Terry Neal
Bozeman, MT
82PT40 6V92TA
74FC34 6V53T



Curt Sprenger wrote:

> Terry,
> I like your way of thinking...same as mine. You are doing it right.
> Please take before/after pictures of your coach. We'd all like to see
> them.
>
> "The report is that they have some beer & tequila left down
> there"..Let's get a group party going. It doesn't need to take place
> soon, but some day, just needs planing.
>
> Curt Sprenger
> 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> Anaheim Hills, Calif.
>
> Terry Neal wrote:
>
> > Evening Curt,
> >
> > My guess is the correlation for much of the cooling system repairs on
> > these Detroits would be best expressed in terms of years rather than
> > miles. Most automotive heating/cooling hoses have a "safe" life around
> > maybe 5-7 years in my opinion. These are all original hoses etc that I
> > am replacing so feel am pushing my luck in running them any longer on
> > the coach. The rad core was shot, maybe it would have lasted another
> > 5,000 miles but I seriously doubt it.
> >
> > I pulled the turbo & blower off for better access to all the other
> > parts. Figured I might as well rebuild them & replace all the bearings
> > while at it. Also had a gasket failure at the blower mounting flange.
> >
> > I do have a history for all the work on the coach & it was pretty
> > complete when I purchased it.
> >
> > The coach is parked at my Land Rover shop in Billings. Plugged into
> > 240-50 amp service & water & sewer hookups. I have done some of the
> > work on it myself but also have employees that work on it when time
> > permits.
> >
> > It's also getting stripped and is about ready for repaint when it warms
> > up some.
> >
> > Plan to be able to use it quite a lot when it's all finished.
> >
> > Mexico is calling...The report is that they have some beer & tequila
> > left down there.
> >
> > Terry Neal
> > Bozeman, MT
> > 82PT40 6V92TA
> > 74FC34 6V53T
> >
> > Curt Sprenger wrote:
> >
> > > Terry,
> > > I wonder if a correlation could be established between engine
> miles and
> > > the coolant/fuel hose, pump, maintenance requirements. Would be useful
> > > to other 'Bird owners for sure.
> > >
> > > You are doing a lot of work on your engine. What is the rational
> for the
> > > blower and turbo work? Do you have the maintenance history on your
> > coach?
> > >
> > > You must have a shop to park your bus and work on it.
> > >
> > > Curt Sprenger
> > > 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> > > Anaheim Hills, Calif.
> > >
> > > Terry Neal wrote:
> > >
> > > > Curt, it has 171,000 on it which appears pretty close from the Hobbs
> > > > hour meter. Went through all the upper part of the engine.
> Rebuilt or
> > > > replaced the blower, turbo, water pump, fuel pump, Charge air
> cooler,
> > > > etc. Resetting the fuel rails now & putting it all back together.
> > > >
> > > > Terry Neal
> > > > Bozeman, MT
> > > > 82PT40 6V92TA
> > > > 74FC34 6V53T
> > > >
> > > > Curt Sprenger wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Terry,
> > > > > Please keep us posted.
> > > > > How many miles on your engine?
> > > > >
> > > > > Curt Sprenger
> > > > > 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> > > > > Anaheim Hills, Calif.
> > > > >
> > > > > Terry Neal wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Sounds like you did the right thing replacing all of those
> parts.
> > > > > > That's what I did on mine too. Plus new water pump & new rad
> core
> > > > > > (increased cooling capacity 15%). When it warms up some, will
> > > take it
> > > > > > out on I90 to see what it runs at now.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Terry Neal
> > > > > > Bozeman, MT
> > > > > > 82PT40 6V92TA
> > > > > > 74FC34 6V53T
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Curt Sprenger wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Update...The past few days I ran the bus about 400 miles,
> 6,000
> > > > pounds
> > > > > > > in tow, outside temperature in the 80's. On the flat the
> coolant
> > > > > > > temperature run 180-185, oil temperature 220. Climbing
> > Whitewater
> > > > > Grade
> > > > > > > out of Palm Springs, 40 mph head wind, the coolant
> > temperature got
> > > > > up to
> > > > > > > 190 degrees, oil just over 230. I'd say changing the
> > > thermostats and
> > > > > > > clean/rodding the radiator was a good thing to do.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Curt Sprenger
> > > > > > > 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> > > > > > > Anaheim Hills, Calif.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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