I hate vinyl

[Gardner Yeaw]

I got out my heat gun and my new vinyl eraser wheel on my drill
today. I managed to clean off about three feet of four inch wide,
prehistoric, dried, cracked vinyl before the wheel was pretty much
worn down. At 19.95 per wheel I think it would be cheaper to hire
someone, and much easier on my arms. Let's see .33 foot bus, both
sides, top and bottom, that's 132 feet, plus another 8 for the back,
divided by 3, multiplied by 19.95, that's $931.00.
It is in too rough of a condition to just put new vinyl over it.
Maybe I will just wait till I am ready to have it painted and have
them media blast it all off. I will admit, however that it worked
faster on the parts that were not cracked and faded.

Gardner
78FC33

[Leroy Eckert]

Gardner:
That is exactly why quality base coat clear coat was invented. My 17 year old
original paint looks new. I feel for you.
It is also why we own BB's because SOB's have vinyl graphics, most of them are
cracking, and the body has spider feet.
Leroy Eckert
1990 WB-40 "Smoke N Mirrors"
Niceville, FL


----- Original Message -----
From: Gardner Yeaw
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 6:53 PM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] I hate vinyl


I got out my heat gun and my new vinyl eraser wheel on my drill
today. I managed to clean off about three feet of four inch wide,
prehistoric, dried, cracked vinyl before the wheel was pretty much
worn down. At 19.95 per wheel I think it would be cheaper to hire
someone, and much easier on my arms. Let's see..33 foot bus, both
sides, top and bottom, that's 132 feet, plus another 8 for the back,
divided by 3, multiplied by 19.95, that's $931.00.
It is in too rough of a condition to just put new vinyl over it.
Maybe I will just wait till I am ready to have it painted and have
them media blast it all off. I will admit, however that it worked
faster on the parts that were not cracked and faded.

Gardner
78FC33





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[Gardner Yeaw]

Ernie,
If you are feeling my pain I would suggest a couple of Advil.
It's working for me!

Gardner
78FC33
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Leroy Eckert"
wrote:
>
> Gardner:
> That is exactly why quality base coat clear coat was invented. My
17 year old original paint looks new. I feel for you.
> It is also why we own BB's because SOB's have vinyl graphics, most
of them are cracking, and the body has spider feet.
> Leroy Eckert
> 1990 WB-40 "Smoke N Mirrors"
> Niceville, FL
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Gardner Yeaw
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 6:53 PM
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] I hate vinyl
>
>
> I got out my heat gun and my new vinyl eraser wheel on my drill
> today. I managed to clean off about three feet of four inch wide,
> prehistoric, dried, cracked vinyl before the wheel was pretty
much
> worn down. At 19.95 per wheel I think it would be cheaper to hire
> someone, and much easier on my arms. Let's see..33 foot bus, both
> sides, top and bottom, that's 132 feet, plus another 8 for the
back,
> divided by 3, multiplied by 19.95, that's $931.00.
> It is in too rough of a condition to just put new vinyl over it.
> Maybe I will just wait till I am ready to have it painted and
have
> them media blast it all off. I will admit, however that it worked
> faster on the parts that were not cracked and faded.
>
> Gardner
> 78FC33
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

[Curt Sprenger]

Gardner,
Only a Suggestion...double tape off above the top and below the bottom
of that vinyl. Start with 150 sand paper and remove the bulk of the
vinyl. Then reduce down (up) to 320 or so for a good smooth finish. Then
re tape, paint, or if you like apply new vinyl.

Curt Sprenger
1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
Anaheim Hills, Calif.



Gardner Yeaw wrote:

> Ernie,
> If you are feeling my pain I would suggest a couple of Advil.
> It's working for me!
>
> Gardner
> 78FC33
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> , "Leroy Eckert"
> wrote:
> >
> > Gardner:
> > That is exactly why quality base coat clear coat was invented. My
> 17 year old original paint looks new. I feel for you.
> > It is also why we own BB's because SOB's have vinyl graphics, most
> of them are cracking, and the body has spider feet.
> > Leroy Eckert
> > 1990 WB-40 "Smoke N Mirrors"
> > Niceville, FL
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Gardner Yeaw
> > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
>
> > Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 6:53 PM
> > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] I hate vinyl
> >
> >
> > I got out my heat gun and my new vinyl eraser wheel on my drill
> > today. I managed to clean off about three feet of four inch wide,
> > prehistoric, dried, cracked vinyl before the wheel was pretty
> much
> > worn down. At 19.95 per wheel I think it would be cheaper to hire
> > someone, and much easier on my arms. Let's see..33 foot bus, both
> > sides, top and bottom, that's 132 feet, plus another 8 for the
> back,
> > divided by 3, multiplied by 19.95, that's $931.00.
> > It is in too rough of a condition to just put new vinyl over it.
> > Maybe I will just wait till I am ready to have it painted and
> have
> > them media blast it all off. I will admit, however that it worked
> > faster on the parts that were not cracked and faded.
> >
> > Gardner
> > 78FC33
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>

[Leroy Eckert]

It wasn't Ernie. It was Leroy. Please don't blame it on Ernie, he owns the
joint. lol
We Southern folks have a funny way of suggesting that you paint your coach with
base coat clear coat and it will be the last time you do so in your lifetime.
That was the message. I think???

Leroy Eckert
1990 WB-40 "Smoke N Mirrors"
Niceville, FL
I use beer as opposed to Advil.



----- Original Message -----
From: Gardner Yeaw
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 8:43 PM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: I hate vinyl


Ernie,
If you are feeling my pain I would suggest a couple of Advil.
It's working for me!

Gardner
78FC33
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Leroy Eckert"
wrote:
>
> Gardner:
> That is exactly why quality base coat clear coat was invented. My
17 year old original paint looks new. I feel for you.
> It is also why we own BB's because SOB's have vinyl graphics, most
of them are cracking, and the body has spider feet.
> Leroy Eckert
> 1990 WB-40 "Smoke N Mirrors"
> Niceville, FL
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Gardner Yeaw
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 6:53 PM
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] I hate vinyl
>
>
> I got out my heat gun and my new vinyl eraser wheel on my drill
> today. I managed to clean off about three feet of four inch wide,
> prehistoric, dried, cracked vinyl before the wheel was pretty
much
> worn down. At 19.95 per wheel I think it would be cheaper to hire
> someone, and much easier on my arms. Let's see..33 foot bus, both
> sides, top and bottom, that's 132 feet, plus another 8 for the
back,
> divided by 3, multiplied by 19.95, that's $931.00.
> It is in too rough of a condition to just put new vinyl over it.
> Maybe I will just wait till I am ready to have it painted and
have
> them media blast it all off. I will admit, however that it worked
> faster on the parts that were not cracked and faded.
>
> Gardner
> 78FC33
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>





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[erniecarpet@...]

Thanks, Leroy- was getting kind of confused on Gardner's post. I take
Motrin~

Ernie Ekberg
83PT40
Livingston, Mt




************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.


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[Gardner Yeaw]

Ernie,
Sorry, I have trouble remembering things for more that 3 seconds,
on a good day. It was indeed Leroy I was addressing.

Gardner
78FC33

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Gardner Yeaw"
wrote:
>
> Ernie,
> If you are feeling my pain I would suggest a couple of Advil.
> It's working for me!
>
> Gardner
> 78FC33
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Leroy Eckert"
> wrote:
> >
> > Gardner:
> > That is exactly why quality base coat clear coat was invented.
My
> 17 year old original paint looks new. I feel for you.
> > It is also why we own BB's because SOB's have vinyl graphics,
most
> of them are cracking, and the body has spider feet.
> > Leroy Eckert
> > 1990 WB-40 "Smoke N Mirrors"
> > Niceville, FL
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Gardner Yeaw
> > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 6:53 PM
> > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] I hate vinyl
> >
> >
> > I got out my heat gun and my new vinyl eraser wheel on my drill
> > today. I managed to clean off about three feet of four inch
wide,
> > prehistoric, dried, cracked vinyl before the wheel was pretty
> much
> > worn down. At 19.95 per wheel I think it would be cheaper to
hire
> > someone, and much easier on my arms. Let's see..33 foot bus,
both
> > sides, top and bottom, that's 132 feet, plus another 8 for the
> back,
> > divided by 3, multiplied by 19.95, that's $931.00.
> > It is in too rough of a condition to just put new vinyl over it.
> > Maybe I will just wait till I am ready to have it painted and
> have
> > them media blast it all off. I will admit, however that it
worked
> > faster on the parts that were not cracked and faded.
> >
> > Gardner
> > 78FC33
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>

[Gardner Yeaw]

Curt,
Considering allo the work to take it off, painting would be the
better method. I am really thinking of just having the whole thing
blasted and repainted. There are a couple of spots where the vinyl
looks like there is a little rust under it, so perhaps getting down
to the galvanized metal and addressing the rust is the best solution.
I just don't have the time or place to get into it that far. Perhaps
if I mowed lawns on the weekends I could raise the money???

Gardner
78FC33

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Curt Sprenger
wrote:
>
> Gardner,
> Only a Suggestion...double tape off above the top and below the
bottom
> of that vinyl. Start with 150 sand paper and remove the bulk of the
> vinyl. Then reduce down (up) to 320 or so for a good smooth finish.
Then
> re tape, paint, or if you like apply new vinyl.
>
> Curt Sprenger
> 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> Anaheim Hills, Calif.
>
>
>
> Gardner Yeaw wrote:
>
> > Ernie,
> > If you are feeling my pain I would suggest a couple of Advil.
> > It's working for me!
> >
> > Gardner
> > 78FC33
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > , "Leroy Eckert"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Gardner:
> > > That is exactly why quality base coat clear coat was invented.
My
> > 17 year old original paint looks new. I feel for you.
> > > It is also why we own BB's because SOB's have vinyl graphics,
most
> > of them are cracking, and the body has spider feet.
> > > Leroy Eckert
> > > 1990 WB-40 "Smoke N Mirrors"
> > > Niceville, FL
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Gardner Yeaw
> > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> >
> > > Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 6:53 PM
> > > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] I hate vinyl
> > >
> > >
> > > I got out my heat gun and my new vinyl eraser wheel on my drill
> > > today. I managed to clean off about three feet of four inch
wide,
> > > prehistoric, dried, cracked vinyl before the wheel was pretty
> > much
> > > worn down. At 19.95 per wheel I think it would be cheaper to
hire
> > > someone, and much easier on my arms. Let's see..33 foot bus,
both
> > > sides, top and bottom, that's 132 feet, plus another 8 for the
> > back,
> > > divided by 3, multiplied by 19.95, that's $931.00.
> > > It is in too rough of a condition to just put new vinyl over it.
> > > Maybe I will just wait till I am ready to have it painted and
> > have
> > > them media blast it all off. I will admit, however that it
worked
> > > faster on the parts that were not cracked and faded.
> > >
> > > Gardner
> > > 78FC33
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
> >
>

[pt40wl1]

Gardner, Try a product from 3M called "Vinyl and Adhesive Remover". I
get it from an auto paint supply store and you just spray it on and
let set for a few minutes. It softens the vinyl and the underlying
adhesive so it comes fairly easily. I have had good results with it.

Roger Sadler
Little Rock '84 PT40WL

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Gardner Yeaw"
wrote:
>
> Curt,
> Considering allo the work to take it off, painting would be the
> better method. I am really thinking of just having the whole thing
> blasted and repainted. There are a couple of spots where the vinyl
> looks like there is a little rust under it, so perhaps getting down
> to the galvanized metal and addressing the rust is the best solution.
> I just don't have the time or place to get into it that far. Perhaps
> if I mowed lawns on the weekends I could raise the money???
>
> Gardner
> 78FC33
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Curt Sprenger
> wrote:
> >
> > Gardner,
> > Only a Suggestion...double tape off above the top and below the
> bottom
> > of that vinyl. Start with 150 sand paper and remove the bulk of the
> > vinyl. Then reduce down (up) to 320 or so for a good smooth finish.
> Then
> > re tape, paint, or if you like apply new vinyl.
> >
> > Curt Sprenger
> > 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> > Anaheim Hills, Calif.
> >
> >
> >
> > Gardner Yeaw wrote:
> >
> > > Ernie,
> > > If you are feeling my pain I would suggest a couple of Advil.
> > > It's working for me!
> > >
> > > Gardner
> > > 78FC33
> > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > > , "Leroy Eckert"
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Gardner:
> > > > That is exactly why quality base coat clear coat was invented.
> My
> > > 17 year old original paint looks new. I feel for you.
> > > > It is also why we own BB's because SOB's have vinyl graphics,
> most
> > > of them are cracking, and the body has spider feet.
> > > > Leroy Eckert
> > > > 1990 WB-40 "Smoke N Mirrors"
> > > > Niceville, FL
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: Gardner Yeaw
> > > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > >
> > > > Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 6:53 PM
> > > > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] I hate vinyl
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I got out my heat gun and my new vinyl eraser wheel on my drill
> > > > today. I managed to clean off about three feet of four inch
> wide,
> > > > prehistoric, dried, cracked vinyl before the wheel was pretty
> > > much
> > > > worn down. At 19.95 per wheel I think it would be cheaper to
> hire
> > > > someone, and much easier on my arms. Let's see..33 foot bus,
> both
> > > > sides, top and bottom, that's 132 feet, plus another 8 for the
> > > back,
> > > > divided by 3, multiplied by 19.95, that's $931.00.
> > > > It is in too rough of a condition to just put new vinyl over it.
> > > > Maybe I will just wait till I am ready to have it painted and
> > > have
> > > > them media blast it all off. I will admit, however that it
> worked
> > > > faster on the parts that were not cracked and faded.
> > > >
> > > > Gardner
> > > > 78FC33
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>

[runnerful]

Advil - Motrin: same stuff. It's all Ibuprophen.
I buy the store brand stuff for about 1/2 price.

Ginger
BB wannabee

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, erniecarpet@... wrote:
>
> Thanks, Leroy- was getting kind of confused on Gardner's post. I
take
> Motrin~
>
> Ernie Ekberg
> 83PT40
> Livingston, Mt
>
>
>
>
> ************************************** See what's free at
http://www.aol.com.
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>