Fun with the Rebel Bird

[Jon]

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Jon" wrote:
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> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, dwalks@ wrote:
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> > Why??? however, Great drawing
> > Walker
> > 84FC35
> > kcmo
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> And here is the Circus Wagon! That's what the name is on the front!
> Shows rear end with a plateform.
> http://tinyurl.com/2nnten

And here is my original motor home it a 1951 Metro Van and I bought
it in 1967 for 125 dollars. I have some pictures of the insides but
as you could expect from that generation that it had flowered
wallpaper and of course a pot bellied stove. I even had a bus
drivers seat that had air ride. That's my beautiful wife standing
next to the door way and we are still together after 38 years.

http://tinyurl.com/3dm56y

Jon
Rebel Bird
Bremerton Washington



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[Pete Masterson]

Use a long 2x4 or similar board. Place one end (from the rear)
against the bottom of your rearmost tire. Raise the board until it
hits the lowest projection at the rear of the coach (the part that
bottoms out first). Then note how much distance you have between the
door and the board ... anything that remains above the board is less
likely to increase your dip-dragging potential in most cases. Still,
any extra rear overhang will have some chance of striking the ground
in some circumstances.

Perhaps you can create a hinge-connection so that if the porch
bottoms out, it can swing up a bit. A 'skid' on the bottom of the
porch might help. This may require a little more engineering with the
railing, but should be doable.

Pete Masterson
aeonix1@...
'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42'
El Sobrante, CA


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> The porch itself should be at the same height as the door or close to
> it as then I won't have a problem with it dragging in a dip. (I hope?)
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[pattypape]

Good Luck with your project the rear door is unique.
There are still a few 50's vans around.

Bill 88 FC Michigan


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Jon" wrote:
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Jon" wrote:
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, dwalks@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Why??? however, Great drawing
> > > Walker
> > > 84FC35
> > > kcmo
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ************************************** See what's free at
> > http://www.aol.com.
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
> >
> > And here is the Circus Wagon! That's what the name is on the
front!
> > Shows rear end with a plateform.
> > http://tinyurl.com/2nnten
>
> And here is my original motor home it a 1951 Metro Van and I bought
> it in 1967 for 125 dollars. I have some pictures of the insides
but
> as you could expect from that generation that it had flowered
> wallpaper and of course a pot bellied stove. I even had a bus
> drivers seat that had air ride. That's my beautiful wife standing
> next to the door way and we are still together after 38 years.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/3dm56y
>
> Jon
> Rebel Bird
> Bremerton Washington
>
>
>
> >
>

[Ryan Wright]

Hey Jon,

On 6/10/07, Jon wrote:
>
> I'm totally retired and I love to have challenges and since this will
> take up a little of my spare time-why not?

Well, I'll be the one to encourage you, then. I think you should do
it. If nothing else, it will be unique. If I had a useless rear door
hanging off the back of my coach, I'd do it. A back porch on an RV is
just a cool idea. Then again, I was raised by hippies, so that gives
you some perspective on why I like the idea too. ;-)

If I were doing it, I'd try to make some sort of three layered
electric slide-out deal, so when you're driving down the road it only
sticks out two feet, but when parked you flip a switch and now it's 6
feet. Would be fun to engineer something like that and not too
difficult a project I'd imagine. Your idea with the three receiver
hitches is a good one, I think, and would make the project removable
should things not work out as well as planned.

Pete's ideas on a hinge-connection and/or skid are good ones. I'd try
to implement those and you might also add some large steel "wheels" to
the back - you know the type, long and skinny like they use on the big
garbage bins. Should stop you from catching the ground with the rear
most platform cross member and ripping the whole thing off your coach.

Good luck with it.

-Ryan
'86 PT-40 8V92
Tri-Cities, WA

[Ryan Wright]

Here Jon, like this:

http://www.ryanwright.com/tmp/jon-porch.jpg

Get some heavy duty linear actuators off eBay, or build your own with
electric motors & some thick all-thread & welded-to-the-frame nuts.
The drawing doesn't show all dimensions perfectly (I threw it together
in half an hour) and I didn't draw in all three floors because of
that, but you get the idea. Each platform would need to slide
underneath the previous. You'd then want some way to make all
platforms level. I'd do it two ways:

1. On the front most floor (closest to the bus), have the main floor
anchored to the deck frame and a secondary floor that sits on top of
it and is hinged on the back. So when your center floor slides out, it
will be 3/4" lower than your front floor. But the front floor would be
made up of two 3/4" floor panels hinged together, so just flip the top
part 180 degrees and it would settle right onto the center floor,
making it level.

2. Then, for the back floor, have a 1.5" thick flooring on hinges,
vertically connected to the rear railing. Flip that 90 degrees toward
you and it would settle onto the rear deck, which would be 1.5" lower
than the front, and now you have a level deck. To retract, just flip
the floor pieces over and reverse the motor(s).

3. Stick a zip-dee awning on the roof, so when the deck extends or
retracts, the awning follows to provide shade.

There you go - you've solved your overhang problem, mostly, and you
can make the deck big enough to enjoy.

-Ryan
'86 PT-40 8V92
Tri-Cities, WA

On 6/10/07, Ryan Wright wrote:
> Hey Jon,
>
> On 6/10/07, Jon wrote:
> >
> > I'm totally retired and I love to have challenges and since this will
> > take up a little of my spare time-why not?
>
> Well, I'll be the one to encourage you, then. I think you should do
> it. If nothing else, it will be unique. If I had a useless rear door
> hanging off the back of my coach, I'd do it. A back porch on an RV is
> just a cool idea. Then again, I was raised by hippies, so that gives
> you some perspective on why I like the idea too. ;-)
>
> If I were doing it, I'd try to make some sort of three layered
> electric slide-out deal, so when you're driving down the road it only
> sticks out two feet, but when parked you flip a switch and now it's 6
> feet. Would be fun to engineer something like that and not too
> difficult a project I'd imagine. Your idea with the three receiver
> hitches is a good one, I think, and would make the project removable
> should things not work out as well as planned.
>
> Pete's ideas on a hinge-connection and/or skid are good ones. I'd try
> to implement those and you might also add some large steel "wheels" to
> the back - you know the type, long and skinny like they use on the big
> garbage bins. Should stop you from catching the ground with the rear
> most platform cross member and ripping the whole thing off your coach.
>
> Good luck with it.
>
> -Ryan
> '86 PT-40 8V92
> Tri-Cities, WA
>

[jim riordan]

Nice, where do yuo put the toad?

Jim Riordan

Jon wrote:
I have been thinking allot lately of what would make my bird really
stand out from my fellow bird owners and I decided to start my rear
door platform. Yesterday I got for free a complete platform from a
large truck that had been damage but the platform itself is not
damage. I have done some sketching with my computer and this is what
I came up with, what do you guys think?? Jon
http://tinyurl.com/2j5pdz

Rebelbird
Bremerton washington






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[ttikalsky]

Here is a factory setup : http://tinyurl.com/ywaqxd


Troy Tikalsky
Waconia, MN


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Jon" wrote:
>
> I have been thinking allot lately of what would make my bird really
> stand out from my fellow bird owners and I decided to start my rear
> door platform. Yesterday I got for free a complete platform from a
> large truck that had been damage but the platform itself is not
> damage. I have done some sketching with my computer and this is what
> I came up with, what do you guys think?? Jon
> http://tinyurl.com/2j5pdz
>
> Rebelbird
> Bremerton washington
>

[Don Bradner]

I thought that was an interesting photo, so I rummaged around to find the page
of photos on which it appears:
http://tompatterson.com/Streamline/Trave...mback.html

Don Bradner
90 PT40 "Blue Thunder"
Eureka, CA

On 6/12/2007 at 8:56 PM ttikalsky wrote:

>Here is a factory setup : http://tinyurl.com/ywaqxd
>
>
>Troy Tikalsky
>Waconia, MN

[Don Bradner]

Other Newell/Streamlines with rear porches:
http://tompatterson.com/Streamline/Motor...coach.html
http://tompatterson.com/Streamline/Trave...urphy.html
http://tompatterson.com/Streamline/TravelHomes/FMC.html
http://tompatterson.com/Streamline/Trave...e/Lee.html
http://tinyurl.com/2pbkxo
http://tinyurl.com/2oxrn6
http://tinyurl.com/2sb2of

Don Bradner
90 PT40 "Blue Thunder"
Eureka, CA