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07-05-2007, 02:52

Hi all,
I have just returned from a trip to southern PA, having to climb a few
mountains... I was experiencing high oil temps in the 250* range, just a guess
as the Gage reads 230* and then 320* it was somewhere in the middle... with the
water temps in the 190's... pyro temps running @ 950*... I am running 5-40
delvac synthetic... I would think that the temps would be lower with the
synthetic... Is it possible the oil cooler could not be working properly??? I
have been turning the fan override on when the water temp gets to 190* which
brings the oil temps down slowly... What are all your opinions as to a fix???
Also, while parked at a CG with the jacks lowered and set up for a couple of
days the left rear jack had completely returned to its nesting position... What
would cause this to happen???
All responses appreciated

Sea Ya
Larry
NYC
84 35FCSB

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07-05-2007, 04:41

i was under the impression that synthetic oils would not necessarily run cooler
but
continue to perform their function at higher temperatures? What are the CAT
parameters
for oil temperature on your engine? You have piston oil coolers so I would
think that with
a steady pyrometer reading of 950, you would see pretty high oil temperatures.
I don't know how the CAT oil cooler system works, but my Mercedes has a
thermostat in
the oil cooling system that opens when the oil reaches a temperature which
requires
cooling.
Are these temperatures a new development?

Kerry
82 FC 35
Denver

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Larry wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> I have just returned from a trip to southern PA, having to climb a few
mountains... I was
experiencing high oil temps in the 250* range, just a guess as the Gage reads
230* and
then 320* it was somewhere in the middle... with the water temps in the 190's...
pyro
temps running @ 950*... I am running 5-40 delvac synthetic... I would think that
the
temps would be lower with the synthetic... Is it possible the oil cooler could
not be
working properly??? I have been turning the fan override on when the water temp
gets to
190* which brings the oil temps down slowly... What are all your opinions as to
a fix???
> Also, while parked at a CG with the jacks lowered and set up for a couple of
days the left
rear jack had completely returned to its nesting position... What would cause
this to
happen???
> All responses appreciated
>
> Sea Ya
> Larry
> NYC
> 84 35FCSB
>
>
>
>
>
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07-05-2007, 06:07

Hi Kerry,
I will have to go to the blue box to get the temperatures that Cat recommends...
I will do that this evening...
I think I will open the Cat book to see how the cooler works...
The temps have been consistant with my use of the bus...

Sea Ya
Larry
NYC
84 35FCSB

----- Original Message ----
From: davidkerryedwards
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 5, 2007 12:41:28 PM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Trip to PA

i was under the impression that synthetic oils would not necessarily
run cooler but

continue to perform their function at higher temperatures? What are the CAT
parameters

for oil temperature on your engine? You have piston oil coolers so I would
think that with

a steady pyrometer reading of 950, you would see pretty high oil temperatures.

I don't know how the CAT oil cooler system works, but my Mercedes has a
thermostat in

the oil cooling system that opens when the oil reaches a temperature which
requires

cooling.

Are these temperatures a new development?

Kerry

82 FC 35

Denver

--- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, Larry wrote:

>

> Hi all,

> I have just returned from a trip to southern PA, having to climb a few
mountains... I was

experiencing high oil temps in the 250* range, just a guess as the Gage reads
230* and

then 320* it was somewhere in the middle... with the water temps in the 190's...
pyro

temps running @ 950*... I am running 5-40 delvac synthetic... I would think that
the

temps would be lower with the synthetic... Is it possible the oil cooler could
not be

working properly??? I have been turning the fan override on when the water temp
gets to

190* which brings the oil temps down slowly... What are all your opinions as to
a fix???

> Also, while parked at a CG with the jacks lowered and set up for a couple of
days the left

rear jack had completely returned to its nesting position... What would cause
this to

happen???

> All responses appreciated

>

> Sea Ya

> Larry

> NYC

> 84 35FCSB

>

>

>

>

>

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07-05-2007, 09:22

Larry,

For your information and others:

Sounds like you MAY be slightly high. I just ran the I-77 route this
week from Florida to Erie, Pa area with an 87FC35 turbo 300. Going up
the 6%-7% grades (that one that is 7 miles long is a killer), I ran
max oil temps of 220 on the long climbs with water temps going up to
200 Max (just over 200 the fan kicked in) then the fan quickly
brought the water to 170. The oil temperature reduction takes several
minutes after the water temp drops. That was always the scenario and
probably normal. The fan ran constantly on only the real long grades.
Pyro was at 900 on the long grades, never over 900. Usually went up
to 700 on shorter grades. Most of my driving the water was at 170
with oil at 190 ( 65mph and 2300 RPM ). By the way, on most grades I
was able to keep at least 45mph with only the 7 miler knocking me
slightly below 40. I'm using Rotella 10-30 and change VERY often.

Don Mohney
87FC35
Jensen Beach

>

07-05-2007, 10:49

Hey Larry,

I think you mean 15 W 40, My understanding of syn is that it can
handle a higher temp.heat, but you may not notice a reduction in the
running temp reading. I use the old dino technology in the 3208
15W40 Rotella.
My oil temp seemed to run high, until I replaced the oil temp gage
and the matching sensor. All is well now 20* /30* higher than
coolant temp.

Bill 88 FC Michigan

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Larry
wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> I have just returned from a trip to southern PA, having to climb a
few mountains... I was experiencing high oil temps in the 250* range,
just a guess as the Gage reads 230* and then 320* it was somewhere in
the middle... with the water temps in the 190's... pyro temps running
@ 950*... I am running 5-40 delvac synthetic... I would think that
the temps would be lower with the synthetic... Is it possible the oil
cooler could not be working properly??? I have been turning the fan
override on when the water temp gets to 190* which brings the oil
temps down slowly... What are all your opinions as to a fix???
> Also, while parked at a CG with the jacks lowered and set up for a
couple of days the left rear jack had completely returned to its
nesting position... What would cause this to happen???
> All responses appreciated
>
> Sea Ya
> Larry
> NYC
> 84 35FCSB
>
>
>
>
>
______________________________________________________________________
______________
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vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center.
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>

07-05-2007, 15:11

Hi Bill,
Yes, you are right I did realize and sent a correction... I will look into the
gage and sender, also...
Thanks

Sea Ya
Larry
NYC
84 35FCSB

----- Original Message ----
From: pattypape
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 5, 2007 6:49:51 PM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Trip to PA

Hey Larry,

I think you mean 15 W 40, My understanding of syn is that it can
handle a higher temp.heat, but you may not notice a reduction in the
running temp reading. I use the old dino technology in the 3208
15W40 Rotella.
My oil temp seemed to run high, until I replaced the oil temp gage
and the matching sensor. All is well now 20* /30* higher than
coolant temp.

Bill 88 FC Michigan

--- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, Larry
wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> I have just returned from a trip to southern PA, having to climb a
few mountains... I was experiencing high oil temps in the 250* range,
just a guess as the Gage reads 230* and then 320* it was somewhere in
the middle... with the water temps in the 190's... pyro temps running
@ 950*... I am running 5-40 delvac synthetic... I would think that
the temps would be lower with the synthetic... Is it possible the oil
cooler could not be working properly??? I have been turning the fan
override on when the water temp gets to 190* which brings the oil
temps down slowly... What are all your opinions as to a fix???
> Also, while parked at a CG with the jacks lowered and set up for a
couple of days the left rear jack had completely returned to its
nesting position... What would cause this to happen???
> All responses appreciated
>
> Sea Ya
> Larry
> NYC
> 84 35FCSB
>
>
>
>
>
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07-06-2007, 04:04

I could be wrong but I thought that synthetic oil created less friction between
moving metal parts. Less friction should equal less heat build up.
Howard T., So-We-Ga, 86 PT40

>
> From: "davidkerryedwards"
> Date: 2007/07/05 Thu PM 12:41:28 EDT
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Trip to PA
>
> i was under the impression that synthetic oils would not necessarily run
cooler but
> continue to perform their function at higher temperatures? What are the CAT
parameters
> for oil temperature on your engine? You have piston oil coolers so I would
think that with
> a steady pyrometer reading of 950, you would see pretty high oil temperatures.
> I don't know how the CAT oil cooler system works, but my Mercedes has a
thermostat in
> the oil cooling system that opens when the oil reaches a temperature which
requires
> cooling.
> Are these temperatures a new development?
>
> Kerry
> 82 FC 35
> Denver
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Larry wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> > I have just returned from a trip to southern PA, having to climb a few
mountains... I was
> experiencing high oil temps in the 250* range, just a guess as the Gage reads
230* and
> then 320* it was somewhere in the middle... with the water temps in the
190's... pyro
> temps running @ 950*... I am running 5-40 delvac synthetic... I would think
that the
> temps would be lower with the synthetic... Is it possible the oil cooler could
not be
> working properly??? I have been turning the fan override on when the water
temp gets to
> 190* which brings the oil temps down slowly... What are all your opinions as
to a fix???
> > Also, while parked at a CG with the jacks lowered and set up for a couple of
days the left
> rear jack had completely returned to its nesting position... What would cause
this to
> happen???
> > All responses appreciated
> >
> > Sea Ya
> > Larry
> > NYC
> > 84 35FCSB
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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07-06-2007, 13:02

Maybe I shouldn't add my 2 cents worth, being a new Bird guy and
all. But, I really got into preformance VW engines at one time. The
guru of that era (probably still is) Gene Berg tested various oils by
keeping track of how many races he could get out of a given oil.
Synthetics didn't work for him. He was burning rod bearings with
synthetics and theorized the synthetic oil was not absorbing heat in
the bearing and carrying it away. Brad Bloxham 1978 FC 3208NA Idaho
Falls.--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, wrote:
>
> I could be wrong but I thought that synthetic oil created less
friction between moving metal parts. Less friction should equal less
heat build up.
> Howard T., So-We-Ga, 86 PT40
>
> >
> > From: "davidkerryedwards"
> > Date: 2007/07/05 Thu PM 12:41:28 EDT
> > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Trip to PA
> >
> > i was under the impression that synthetic oils would not
necessarily run cooler but
> > continue to perform their function at higher temperatures? What
are the CAT parameters
> > for oil temperature on your engine? You have piston oil coolers
so I would think that with
> > a steady pyrometer reading of 950, you would see pretty high oil
temperatures.
> > I don't know how the CAT oil cooler system works, but my Mercedes
has a thermostat in
> > the oil cooling system that opens when the oil reaches a
temperature which requires
> > cooling.
> > Are these temperatures a new development?
> >
> > Kerry
> > 82 FC 35
> > Denver
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Larry
wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > > I have just returned from a trip to southern PA, having to
climb a few mountains... I was
> > experiencing high oil temps in the 250* range, just a guess as
the Gage reads 230* and
> > then 320* it was somewhere in the middle... with the water temps
in the 190's... pyro
> > temps running @ 950*... I am running 5-40 delvac synthetic... I
would think that the
> > temps would be lower with the synthetic... Is it possible the oil
cooler could not be
> > working properly??? I have been turning the fan override on when
the water temp gets to
> > 190* which brings the oil temps down slowly... What are all your
opinions as to a fix???
> > > Also, while parked at a CG with the jacks lowered and set up
for a couple of days the left
> > rear jack had completely returned to its nesting position... What
would cause this to
> > happen???
> > > All responses appreciated
> > >
> > > Sea Ya
> > > Larry
> > > NYC
> > > 84 35FCSB
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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______________
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