Trying to Pull Steering Wheel
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08-25-2007, 04:12
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Trying to Pull Steering Wheel
Guys I am trying to get the steering wheel off the ole bus. I have the
correct tool and it will not budge. Placing a washer over the threaded post I will damage the thread and have actually bent the bolts going into the holds for this application. I can't believe its that tight? Idea's suggestions etc. Don't see why there would be a problem. The keeper nut screwed off easily enough and I can see the teeth of the retaining gear, just will not move. John Heckman central Pa 1973 FC |
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08-25-2007, 06:21
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--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "bubblerboy64"
wrote: > > Guys I am trying to get the steering wheel off the ole bus. I have the > correct tool and it will not budge. Placing a washer over the threaded > post I will damage the thread and have actually bent the bolts going > into the holds for this application. I can't believe its that tight? > Idea's suggestions etc. Don't see why there would be a problem. The > keeper nut screwed off easily enough and I can see the teeth of the > retaining gear, just will not move. > Sometimes it helps to tap the center bolt of your puller while it is under pressure. Also rocking the steering wheel "over and under" might help. To prevent damage to the threads, put the original nut back on and screw it down about 4 turns then place another smaller nut or thick wawasher on top of that nut and push against that with your puller. I just pulled mine off a week ago and it surprised me as to how much pressure it took for the hub to "pop" off. also grade 8 bolts are a good idea....screw them as far as they will go into the wheel hub.... jim sears 77FC > John Heckman > central Pa > 1973 FC > |
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08-25-2007, 13:03
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Thanks Jim, I am going to soak the area with some penitrating oil
over night and see what gives tomorrow. Likely never off the bus in 35 years. Let ya know tomorrow. The idea with the grade 8 bolts is good plus the nuts on threated shaft so thanks on those tips. John Heckman central Pa 1973 FC > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "bubblerboy64" > wrote: > > > > Guys I am trying to get the steering wheel off the ole bus. I have > the > > correct tool and it will not budge. Placing a washer over the > threaded > > post I will damage the thread and have actually bent the bolts going > > into the holds for this application. I can't believe its that > tight? > > Idea's suggestions etc. Don't see why there would be a problem. The > > keeper nut screwed off easily enough and I can see the teeth of the > > retaining gear, just will not move. > > Sometimes it helps to tap the center bolt of your puller while it is > under pressure. Also rocking the steering wheel "over and under" might > help. To prevent damage to the threads, put the original nut back on > and screw it down about 4 turns then place another smaller nut or > thick wawasher on top of that nut and push against that with your > puller. I just pulled mine off a week ago and it surprised me as to > how much pressure it took for the hub to "pop" off. also grade 8 bolts > are a good idea....screw them as far as they will go into the wheel > hub.... jim sears 77FC > > John Heckman > > central Pa > > 1973 FC > > > |
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08-26-2007, 04:20
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--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "bubblerboy64"
wrote: > > Thanks Jim, I am going to soak the area with some penitrating oil > over night and see what gives tomorrow. Likely never off the bus in > 35 years. Let ya know tomorrow. The idea with the grade 8 bolts is > good plus the nuts on threated shaft so thanks on those tips. > John Heckman > central Pa > 1973 FC > >Can i ask why you are pulling the steering wheel off? jim > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "bubblerboy64" > > wrote: > > > > > > Guys I am trying to get the steering wheel off the ole bus. I > have > > the > > > correct tool and it will not budge. Placing a washer over the > > threaded > > > post I will damage the thread and have actually bent the bolts > going > > > into the holds for this application. I can't believe its that > > tight? > > > Idea's suggestions etc. Don't see why there would be a problem. > The > > > keeper nut screwed off easily enough and I can see the teeth of > the > > > retaining gear, just will not move. > > > Sometimes it helps to tap the center bolt of your puller while it > is > > under pressure. Also rocking the steering wheel "over and under" > might > > help. To prevent damage to the threads, put the original nut back > on > > and screw it down about 4 turns then place another smaller nut or > > thick wawasher on top of that nut and push against that with your > > puller. I just pulled mine off a week ago and it surprised me as > to > > how much pressure it took for the hub to "pop" off. also grade 8 > bolts > > are a good idea....screw them as far as they will go into the wheel > > hub.... jim sears 77FC > > > John Heckman > > > central Pa > > > 1973 FC > > > > > > |
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08-26-2007, 05:05
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Jim, You certainly can and I'll even tell ya :-) Two reasons. One
plain ole cosmetics and also the wheel is so large in diameter that a guy of my stature has a problem. To get my feet to the brake and gas my more then amble belly is rubbing on the wheel or very close to it. I need to strink one or the other. Another thing I need to do if it is in fact doable is the try to lighted up the pressure it takes to keep the throttle applied. Seems like after a while driving the bus I feel like I have to darned near stand on the gas to keep in going. Haven't looked into this but hoping maybe a spring to the right place might make the throttle a little lighter. I guess there is another one for the group to help me with. John Heckman Shippensburg Pa 1973 FC > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "bubblerboy64" > wrote: > > > > Thanks Jim, I am going to soak the area with some penitrating oil > > over night and see what gives tomorrow. Likely never off the bus > in > > 35 years. Let ya know tomorrow. The idea with the grade 8 bolts > is > > good plus the nuts on threated shaft so thanks on those tips. > > John Heckman > > central Pa > > 1973 FC > > >Can i ask why you are pulling the steering wheel off? jim > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "bubblerboy64" > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Guys I am trying to get the steering wheel off the ole bus. I > > have > > > the > > > > correct tool and it will not budge. Placing a washer over the > > > threaded > > > > post I will damage the thread and have actually bent the bolts > > going > > > > into the holds for this application. I can't believe its that > > > tight? > > > > Idea's suggestions etc. Don't see why there would be a > problem. > > The > > > > keeper nut screwed off easily enough and I can see the teeth > of > > the > > > > retaining gear, just will not move. > > > > Sometimes it helps to tap the center bolt of your puller while > it > > is > > > under pressure. Also rocking the steering wheel "over and under" > > might > > > help. To prevent damage to the threads, put the original nut > back > > on > > > and screw it down about 4 turns then place another smaller nut > or > > > thick wawasher on top of that nut and push against that with > your > > > puller. I just pulled mine off a week ago and it surprised me > as > > to > > > how much pressure it took for the hub to "pop" off. also grade 8 > > bolts > > > are a good idea....screw them as far as they will go into the > wheel > > > hub.... jim sears 77FC > > > > John Heckman > > > > central Pa > > > > 1973 FC > > > > > > > > > > |
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08-26-2007, 09:07
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In a message dated 8/26/2007 5:52:29 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,
gcyeaw@... writes: The only concern I have is a power steering failure and the ability to steer the coach to a safe stop Ahhh- yes, I wonder what kind of muscle power would be needed to turn one of those smaller wheels in event something like that happens? Ernie Ekberg 83PT40 Livingston, Mt --with that big wheel ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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08-26-2007, 12:47
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John,
I sympathize with your loud pedal problem, I feel the same way. I am often practically standing up to push the pedal as far as I can. I think the reality is that it is only a mental deception that it does any real good. I did get my cruise control working so my leg gets a little break on the flats. As far as a slightly smaller steering wheel, I agree that it would be nice. I seem to be bobbing forward and backward to maneuver the coach into a campground space. The only concern I have is a power steering failure and the ability to steer the coach to a safe stop. Gardner 78FC33 --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "bubblerboy64" wrote: > > Jim, You certainly can and I'll even tell ya :-) Two reasons. One > plain ole cosmetics and also the wheel is so large in diameter that a > guy of my stature has a problem. To get my feet to the brake and gas > my more then amble belly is rubbing on the wheel or very close to it. > I need to strink one or the other. Another thing I need to do if it > is in fact doable is the try to lighted up the pressure it takes to > keep the throttle applied. Seems like after a while driving the bus I > feel like I have to darned near stand on the gas to keep in going. > Haven't looked into this but hoping maybe a spring to the right place > might make the throttle a little lighter. I guess there is another > one for the group to help me with. > John Heckman > Shippensburg Pa > 1973 FC > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "bubblerboy64" > > wrote: > > > > > > Thanks Jim, I am going to soak the area with some penitrating > oil > > > over night and see what gives tomorrow. Likely never off the bus > > in > > > 35 years. Let ya know tomorrow. The idea with the grade 8 bolts > > is > > > good plus the nuts on threated shaft so thanks on those tips. > > > John Heckman > > > central Pa > > > 1973 FC > > > >Can i ask why you are pulling the steering wheel off? jim > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "bubblerboy64" > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Guys I am trying to get the steering wheel off the ole bus. I > > > have > > > > the > > > > > correct tool and it will not budge. Placing a washer over the > > > > threaded > > > > > post I will damage the thread and have actually bent the > bolts > > > going > > > > > into the holds for this application. I can't believe its > that > > > > tight? > > > > > Idea's suggestions etc. Don't see why there would be a > > problem. > > > The > > > > > keeper nut screwed off easily enough and I can see the teeth > > of > > > the > > > > > retaining gear, just will not move. > > > > > Sometimes it helps to tap the center bolt of your puller > while > > it > > > is > > > > under pressure. Also rocking the steering wheel "over and > under" > > > might > > > > help. To prevent damage to the threads, put the original nut > > back > > > on > > > > and screw it down about 4 turns then place another smaller nut > > or > > > > thick wawasher on top of that nut and push against that with > > your > > > > puller. I just pulled mine off a week ago and it surprised me > > as > > > to > > > > how much pressure it took for the hub to "pop" off. also grade > 8 > > > bolts > > > > are a good idea....screw them as far as they will go into the > > wheel > > > > hub.... jim sears 77FC > > > > > John Heckman > > > > > central Pa > > > > > 1973 FC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |
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08-27-2007, 08:03
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Trying to Pull Steering Wheel
Gardner,
I have a smaller wheel on my bus and it is very good, I also have the old big wheel... Here is a link to a pix of the wheel in my bus; http://www.pbase.com/rdupree1/image/62623511 HTH Sea Ya Larry NYC 84 35FCSB ----- Original Message ---- From: Gardner Yeaw To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2007 8:47:49 PM Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Trying to Pull Steering Wheel John, I sympathize with your loud pedal problem, I feel the same way. I am often practically standing up to push the pedal as far as I can. I think the reality is that it is only a mental deception that it does any real good. I did get my cruise control working so my leg gets a little break on the flats. As far as a slightly smaller steering wheel, I agree that it would be nice. I seem to be bobbing forward and backward to maneuver the coach into a campground space. The only concern I have is a power steering failure and the ability to steer the coach to a safe stop. Gardner 78FC33 --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, "bubblerboy64" wrote: > > Jim, You certainly can and I'll even tell ya :-) Two reasons. One > plain ole cosmetics and also the wheel is so large in diameter that a > guy of my stature has a problem. To get my feet to the brake and gas > my more then amble belly is rubbing on the wheel or very close to it. > I need to strink one or the other. Another thing I need to do if it > is in fact doable is the try to lighted up the pressure it takes to > keep the throttle applied. Seems like after a while driving the bus I > feel like I have to darned near stand on the gas to keep in going. > Haven't looked into this but hoping maybe a spring to the right place > might make the throttle a little lighter. I guess there is another > one for the group to help me with. > John Heckman > Shippensburg Pa > 1973 FC > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, "bubblerboy64" > > wrote: > > > > > > Thanks Jim, I am going to soak the area with some penitrating > oil > > > over night and see what gives tomorrow. Likely never off the bus > > in > > > 35 years. Let ya know tomorrow. The idea with the grade 8 bolts > > is > > > good plus the nuts on threated shaft so thanks on those tips. > > > John Heckman > > > central Pa > > > 1973 FC > > > >Can i ask why you are pulling the steering wheel off? jim > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, "bubblerboy64" > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Guys I am trying to get the steering wheel off the ole bus. I > > > have > > > > the > > > > > correct tool and it will not budge. Placing a washer over the > > > > threaded > > > > > post I will damage the thread and have actually bent the > bolts > > > going > > > > > into the holds for this application. I can't believe its > that > > > > tight? > > > > > Idea's suggestions etc. Don't see why there would be a > > problem. > > > The > > > > > keeper nut screwed off easily enough and I can see the teeth > > of > > > the > > > > > retaining gear, just will not move. > > > > > Sometimes it helps to tap the center bolt of your puller > while > > it > > > is > > > > under pressure. Also rocking the steering wheel "over and > under" > > > might > > > > help. To prevent damage to the threads, put the original nut > > back > > > on > > > > and screw it down about 4 turns then place another smaller nut > > or > > > > thick wawasher on top of that nut and push against that with > > your > > > > puller. I just pulled mine off a week ago and it surprised me > > as > > > to > > > > how much pressure it took for the hub to "pop" off. also grade > 8 > > > bolts > > > > are a good idea....screw them as far as they will go into the > > wheel > > > > hub.... jim sears 77FC > > > > > John Heckman > > > > > central Pa > > > > > 1973 FC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mobileweb/onesea...fer=1ONXIC [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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08-27-2007, 12:56
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Larry,
Thanks for the picture, it looks real nice. Now, if only I could get my interior to look that good. Gardner 78FC33 --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Larry Dill > > Gardner, > I have a smaller wheel on my bus and it is very good, I also have the old big wheel... Here is a link to a pix of the wheel in my bus; > > http://www.pbase.com/rdupree1/image/62623511 > HTH > Sea Ya > Larry > NYC > 84 35FCSB > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Gardner Yeaw > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2007 8:47:49 PM > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Trying to Pull Steering Wheel > > John, > I sympathize with your loud pedal problem, I feel the same way. I > am often practically standing up to push the pedal as far as I can. > I think the reality is that it is only a mental deception that it > does any real good. I did get my cruise control working so my leg > gets a little break on the flats. As far as a slightly smaller > steering wheel, I agree that it would be nice. I seem to be bobbing > forward and backward to maneuver the coach into a campground space. > The only concern I have is a power steering failure and the ability > to steer the coach to a safe stop. > > Gardner > 78FC33 > --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, "bubblerboy64" > wrote: > > > > Jim, You certainly can and I'll even tell ya :-) Two reasons. > One > > plain ole cosmetics and also the wheel is so large in diameter > that a > > guy of my stature has a problem. To get my feet to the brake and > gas > > my more then amble belly is rubbing on the wheel or very close to > it. > > I need to strink one or the other. Another thing I need to do if > it > > is in fact doable is the try to lighted up the pressure it takes > to > > keep the throttle applied. Seems like after a while driving the > bus I > > feel like I have to darned near stand on the gas to keep in > going. > > Haven't looked into this but hoping maybe a spring to the right > place > > might make the throttle a little lighter. I guess there is another > > one for the group to help me with. > > John Heckman > > Shippensburg Pa > > 1973 FC > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, "bubblerboy64" > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Thanks Jim, I am going to soak the area with some penitrating > > oil > > > > over night and see what gives tomorrow. Likely never off the > bus > > > in > > > > 35 years. Let ya know tomorrow. The idea with the grade 8 > bolts > > > is > > > > good plus the nuts on threated shaft so thanks on those tips. > > > > John Heckman > > > > central Pa > > > > 1973 FC > > > > >Can i ask why you are pulling the steering wheel off? jim > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, "bubblerboy64" > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Guys I am trying to get the steering wheel off the ole > bus. I > > > > have > > > > > the > > > > > > correct tool and it will not budge. Placing a washer over > the > > > > > threaded > > > > > > post I will damage the thread and have actually bent the > > bolts > > > > going > > > > > > into the holds for this application. I can't believe its > > that > > > > > tight? > > > > > > Idea's suggestions etc. Don't see why there would be a > > > problem. > > > > The > > > > > > keeper nut screwed off easily enough and I can see the > teeth > > > of > > > > the > > > > > > retaining gear, just will not move. > > > > > > Sometimes it helps to tap the center bolt of your puller > > while > > > it > > > > is > > > > > under pressure. Also rocking the steering wheel "over and > > under" > > > > might > > > > > help. To prevent damage to the threads, put the original > nut > > > back > > > > on > > > > > and screw it down about 4 turns then place another smaller > nut > > > or > > > > > thick wawasher on top of that nut and push against that with > > > your > > > > > puller. I just pulled mine off a week ago and it surprised > me > > > as > > > > to > > > > > how much pressure it took for the hub to "pop" off. also > grade > > 8 > > > > bolts > > > > > are a good idea....screw them as far as they will go into > the > > > wheel > > > > > hub.... jim sears 77FC > > > > > > John Heckman > > > > > > central Pa > > > > > > 1973 FC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____________________________________________________________________ _______________ > Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search > that gives answers, not web links. > http://mobile.yahoo.com/mobileweb/onesea...fer=1ONXIC > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |
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08-30-2007, 04:59
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UPS just delivered the wheel. It is beautiful, I forget the cost but
I think with shipping it was under $250. No seconds available (Gary Miller suggested seconds) I think this will go a long way towards dressing up the bus and I am very impressed with the quality and service from VIP. I have four days to work on the bus and with a little luck I will have a lot accomplished by Monday evening. I am working on interior cosmetics. John Heckman Shippensburg Pa 1973 FC > > Gardner, > I have a smaller wheel on my bus and it is very good, I also have the old big wheel... Here is a link to a pix of the wheel in my bus; > > http://www.pbase.com/rdupree1/image/62623511 > HTH > Sea Ya > Larry > NYC > 84 35FCSB > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Gardner Yeaw > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2007 8:47:49 PM > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Trying to Pull Steering Wheel > > John, > I sympathize with your loud pedal problem, I feel the same way. I > am often practically standing up to push the pedal as far as I can. > I think the reality is that it is only a mental deception that it > does any real good. I did get my cruise control working so my leg > gets a little break on the flats. As far as a slightly smaller > steering wheel, I agree that it would be nice. I seem to be bobbing > forward and backward to maneuver the coach into a campground space. > The only concern I have is a power steering failure and the ability > to steer the coach to a safe stop. > > Gardner > 78FC33 > --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, "bubblerboy64" > wrote: > > > > Jim, You certainly can and I'll even tell ya :-) Two reasons. > One > > plain ole cosmetics and also the wheel is so large in diameter > that a > > guy of my stature has a problem. To get my feet to the brake and > gas > > my more then amble belly is rubbing on the wheel or very close to > it. > > I need to strink one or the other. Another thing I need to do if > it > > is in fact doable is the try to lighted up the pressure it takes > to > > keep the throttle applied. Seems like after a while driving the > bus I > > feel like I have to darned near stand on the gas to keep in > going. > > Haven't looked into this but hoping maybe a spring to the right > place > > might make the throttle a little lighter. I guess there is another > > one for the group to help me with. > > John Heckman > > Shippensburg Pa > > 1973 FC > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, "bubblerboy64" > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Thanks Jim, I am going to soak the area with some penitrating > > oil > > > > over night and see what gives tomorrow. Likely never off the > bus > > > in > > > > 35 years. Let ya know tomorrow. The idea with the grade 8 > bolts > > > is > > > > good plus the nuts on threated shaft so thanks on those tips. > > > > John Heckman > > > > central Pa > > > > 1973 FC > > > > >Can i ask why you are pulling the steering wheel off? jim > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, "bubblerboy64" > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Guys I am trying to get the steering wheel off the ole > bus. I > > > > have > > > > > the > > > > > > correct tool and it will not budge. Placing a washer over > the > > > > > threaded > > > > > > post I will damage the thread and have actually bent the > > bolts > > > > going > > > > > > into the holds for this application. I can't believe its > > that > > > > > tight? > > > > > > Idea's suggestions etc. Don't see why there would be a > > > problem. > > > > The > > > > > > keeper nut screwed off easily enough and I can see the > teeth > > > of > > > > the > > > > > > retaining gear, just will not move. > > > > > > Sometimes it helps to tap the center bolt of your puller > > while > > > it > > > > is > > > > > under pressure. Also rocking the steering wheel "over and > > under" > > > > might > > > > > help. To prevent damage to the threads, put the original > nut > > > back > > > > on > > > > > and screw it down about 4 turns then place another smaller > nut > > > or > > > > > thick wawasher on top of that nut and push against that with > > > your > > > > > puller. I just pulled mine off a week ago and it surprised > me > > > as > > > > to > > > > > how much pressure it took for the hub to "pop" off. also > grade > > 8 > > > > bolts > > > > > are a good idea....screw them as far as they will go into > the > > > wheel > > > > > hub.... jim sears 77FC > > > > > > John Heckman > > > > > > central Pa > > > > > > 1973 FC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ ______________ > Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search > that gives answers, not web links. > http://mobile.yahoo.com/mobileweb/onesea...fer=1ONXIC > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |
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