Paint Match

[dspithaler@...]

Guys What is the best way to get a paint match for an 89 SP. I have
some numbers on the plate in the rad compartment on the curb side but the
paint
store could only tell me that the code that said base was a gray color & the
other two codes could not tell him any thing. This is a really good paint
store that has been around a while & the guy I was talking to had worked with
Imron paint many years. He said he could still get the paint if I could get
the right code. I had thought they could take a picture of it & get a match but
he saiiiid that if there was metallic in it that the could not match it
without the code from Imron. Has any one ever goot that from Blue Bird with the
Body number? One color is Silver & the other is maybe Rose & a lighter color.
Thanks Don
89 SP 36'
Butler, PA



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[dspithaler@...]

Leroy My codes do not match LF-HS N8075 Base LF-HS W8916
Light & LH-HS W8917 Dark What ever they mean. They are on a
metal tag & must mean something to someone.

Are your paint codes 5 digits? My paint is BASF R-M Diamont base coat clear
coat. Your silver may be Indian Silver Met 79773 and the Rose may be 81735.
Do those numbers match? BB could not help me find the answer. If it is BASF
your Imron dealer cannot help you.
Leroy Eckert
1990 WB-40"Smoke N Mirrors"
Niceville, FL
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[Leroy Eckert]

Are your paint codes 5 digits? My paint is BASF R-M Diamont base coat clear
coat. Your silver may be Indian Silver Met 79773 and the Rose may be 81735. Do
those numbers match? BB could not help me find the answer. If it is BASF your
Imron dealer cannot help you.
Leroy Eckert
1990 WB-40"Smoke N Mirrors"
Niceville, FL
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From: dspithaler@...
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 11:08 AM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Paint Match


Guys What is the best way to get a paint match for an 89 SP. I have
some numbers on the plate in the rad compartment on the curb side but the
paint
store could only tell me that the code that said base was a gray color & the
other two codes could not tell him any thing. This is a really good paint
store that has been around a while & the guy I was talking to had worked with
Imron paint many years. He said he could still get the paint if I could get
the right code. I had thought they could take a picture of it & get a match
but
he saiiiid that if there was metallic in it that the could not match it
without the code from Imron. Has any one ever goot that from Blue Bird with
the
Body number? One color is Silver & the other is maybe Rose & a lighter color.
Thanks Don
89 SP 36'
Butler, PA

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[dspithaler@...]

Leroy I would think that the Body no or a build sheet would have the
code on it. My paint guy said the first no came up as Gray. Do you think that
is the color before the clear coat. Did Blue Bird think nobody would need
those colors in the future. Maybe like Randy said. I'll give Ronnie Lamb a call
next with the code I have. Did you get a good match?
Don
89 SP 36'
Butler, PA

Ok, we tried. Try the Glasurit line of BASF instead of R-M Diamont, and see
if the codes work. When I was trying to determine my paint BB (Benny) was
able to give me the manufacturer from memory but not the codes. My
understanding
is 89-90 and some 91's were painted with BASF. Which lines, I do not know.
It took me six months to figure mine out.
Leroy Eckert
1990 WB-40"Smoke N Mirrors"
Niceville, FL






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[dspithaler@...]

Leroy I just found in a Wanderlodge Quick Reference book that goes to
86 colors on a WLFC The first color Indian Silver Metallic that has the same
code as mine N8075U but the Lt Rose & Dark Rose Matalic is a different no. It
says it is Dupont . What do you think.
Don
89 SP 36'
Butler, PA



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[Leroy Eckert]

Ok, we tried. Try the Glasurit line of BASF instead of R-M Diamont, and see if
the codes work. When I was trying to determine my paint BB (Benny) was able to
give me the manufacturer from memory but not the codes. My understanding is
89-90 and some 91's were painted with BASF. Which lines, I do not know. It took
me six months to figure mine out.
Leroy Eckert
1990 WB-40"Smoke N Mirrors"
Niceville, FL
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From: dspithaler@...
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 4:10 PM
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Paint Match


Leroy My codes do not match LF-HS N8075 Base LF-HS W8916
Light & LH-HS W8917 Dark What ever they mean. They are on a
metal tag & must mean something to someone.

Are your paint codes 5 digits? My paint is BASF R-M Diamont base coat clear
coat. Your silver may be Indian Silver Met 79773 and the Rose may be 81735.
Do those numbers match? BB could not help me find the answer. If it is BASF
your Imron dealer cannot help you.
Leroy Eckert
1990 WB-40"Smoke N Mirrors"
Niceville, FL
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[erniecarpet@...]

In a message dated 9/6/2007 5:13:17 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,
jwasnewski@... writes:

Lee Condosta, Wilmington, NC


He is the MAN when it comes to paint for our coaches.

Ernie Ekberg
83PT40
Livingston, Mt




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[Leroy Eckert]

I have four colors. Dark grey and light silver with Rose and Lagoon, a turquoise
color. BB did not have a record of the paint codes on my tag which is located on
the rear frame behind the engine. There were no crossovers for Imron or
equivalent. Once I determined the manufacturer it took me a while to find a
supplier. The colors match perfectly and the paint is still beautiful. Check the
BASF Glasurit line for codes. The base coat is the color, the clear gives it the
shine. Otherwise, I don't have a clue.
Jury duty. Just respectfully ask the questioning attorney why the defendant
needs two court appointed attorneys. You will not be selected.lol
Leroy Eckert
1990 WB-40"Smoke N Mirrors"
Niceville, FL
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Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 5:44 PM
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Paint Match


Leroy I would think that the Body no or a build sheet would have the
code on it. My paint guy said the first no came up as Gray. Do you think that
is the color before the clear coat. Did Blue Bird think nobody would need
those colors in the future. Maybe like Randy said. I'll give Ronnie Lamb a
call
next with the code I have. Did you get a good match?
Don
89 SP 36'
Butler, PA

Ok, we tried. Try the Glasurit line of BASF instead of R-M Diamont, and see
if the codes work. When I was trying to determine my paint BB (Benny) was
able to give me the manufacturer from memory but not the codes. My
understanding
is 89-90 and some 91's were painted with BASF. Which lines, I do not know.
It took me six months to figure mine out.
Leroy Eckert
1990 WB-40"Smoke N Mirrors"
Niceville, FL

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[Leroy Eckert]

My understanding from BB is DuPont paint was used. In my case my paint names are
Indian Silver Metallic 79773, Rose Metallic 81735, Medium Lagoon Metallic 81573
and Cumulus Grey (Dark)Metallic. 79780 all BASF R-M Diamont. That probably means
that your Indian Silver is slightly different in color than mine. It is hard to
believe that two paint lines would be used on the same coach but no two BB's are
exactly alike. If the can was open spray it on the bus. There is a Glasurit and
pre-Glasurit line. Somewhere along the line of posts someone here has the
pre-Glasurit paint, I just do not remember who.
The person that cracked my codes is a forum member who is a paint jobber who
rarely posts. Since he is listed on the forum Member to Member here is his
email. Lee Condosta, Wilmington, NC lcondosta@....
Good luck, isn't this fun and keep us posted.
Leroy Eckert
1990 WB-40"Smoke N Mirrors"
Niceville, FL

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Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 6:39 PM
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Paint Match


Leroy I just found in a Wanderlodge Quick Reference book that goes to
86 colors on a WLFC The first color Indian Silver Metallic that has the same
code as mine N8075U but the Lt Rose & Dark Rose Matalic is a different no. It
says it is Dupont . What do you think.
Don
89 SP 36'
Butler, PA

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[Don Bradner]

Lee was the one that told me that BASF said they had nothing to match my codes.
Of my 4, the only one that is the same as yours is the silver.

Matching metallics otherwise is hard. My Dupont dealer did a good, but not
perfect job. I gave them the door to my inverter compartment, which has all 4
colors inside and out. They started with what their computer could do, then
spent two weeks fine tuning it. Make small changes, test, let it dry. Make
another change. People see the difference when I point it out, but not
otherwise. In most cases I painted to a natural break, but in a few I did some
blending because it wasn't practical otherwise.

The paint before Glasurit was Glaso-Max. Not sure if there was one or two Ss.

Don Bradner
90 PT40 "Blue Thunder"
Posting today by satellite from Jantzen Beach, Portland, Oregon

On 9/6/2007 at 7:07 PM Leroy Eckert wrote:

>My understanding from BB is DuPont paint was used. In my case my paint
>names are Indian Silver Metallic 79773, Rose Metallic 81735, Medium Lagoon
>Metallic 81573 and Cumulus Grey (Dark)Metallic. 79780 all BASF R-M
>Diamont. That probably means that your Indian Silver is slightly different
>in color than mine. It is hard to believe that two paint lines would be
>used on the same coach but no two BB's are exactly alike. If the can was
>open spray it on the bus. There is a Glasurit and pre-Glasurit line.
>Somewhere along the line of posts someone here has the pre-Glasurit paint,
>I just do not remember who.
>The person that cracked my codes is a forum member who is a paint jobber
>who rarely posts. Since he is listed on the forum Member to Member here is
>his email. Lee Condosta, Wilmington, NC lcondosta@....
>Good luck, isn't this fun and keep us posted.
>Leroy Eckert
>1990 WB-40"Smoke N Mirrors"
>Niceville, FL