crash down in the middle of the night!

[Rose Mary]

Hi group,
been home 2 nights, last night in the middle of a deep sleep (I still
sleep in the coach when we are home as my daughter is taking care of
the homefront and has my room in the house)..
I was awakened by a crash and things falling...
I had both back levelers up to level the coach on a slight incline.
When I went out and looked the levelers were actually under the coach
in the wrong direction....I started her up, let the air build and then
retracted the levelers. They went back up fine, phew! Don't know why
everything had shifted back, the air brake was set etc....guess maybe
I had them too high? I put them back down but it appeared the LR one
was at slight angle forward so I put them back up for the night.
Haven't got around to putting them down as I will likely move the
coach to a different park spot for the couple weeks we will be home.
Anyone had this experience?

Thanks
Rose Mary
82 FC 35
JP's White Bird
at home in Oregon for Thanksgiving

[Robert Britton]

The air brake only sets the rear brakes. If you have the rear jacks
set and lift the rear wheels while on an incline there is nothing to
keep the coach from rolling.

Robert Britton
87FC
Hollister, California

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Rose Mary"
wrote:
>
> Hi group,
> been home 2 nights, last night in the middle of a deep sleep (I
still
> sleep in the coach when we are home as my daughter is taking care of
> the homefront and has my room in the house)..
> I was awakened by a crash and things falling...
> I had both back levelers up to level the coach on a slight incline.
> When I went out and looked the levelers were actually under the
coach
> in the wrong direction....I started her up, let the air build and
then
> retracted the levelers. They went back up fine, phew! Don't know why
> everything had shifted back, the air brake was set etc....guess
maybe
> I had them too high? I put them back down but it appeared the LR one
> was at slight angle forward so I put them back up for the night.
> Haven't got around to putting them down as I will likely move the
> coach to a different park spot for the couple weeks we will be home.
> Anyone had this experience?
>
> Thanks
> Rose Mary
> 82 FC 35
> JP's White Bird
> at home in Oregon for Thanksgiving
>

[mbulriss]

+1 on that answer.
It's happened to lots of folks. That's why many use wheel chocks also.
Hopefully you didn't bend any of the jacks. :^(

Mike Bulriss
1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
San Antonio, TX

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Britton"
wrote:
>
> The air brake only sets the rear brakes. If you have the rear jacks
> set and lift the rear wheels while on an incline there is nothing to
> keep the coach from rolling.
>
> Robert Britton
> 87FC
> Hollister, California
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Rose Mary"
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi group,
> > been home 2 nights, last night in the middle of a deep sleep (I
> still
> > sleep in the coach when we are home as my daughter is taking care of
> > the homefront and has my room in the house)..
> > I was awakened by a crash and things falling...
> > I had both back levelers up to level the coach on a slight incline.
> > When I went out and looked the levelers were actually under the
> coach
> > in the wrong direction....I started her up, let the air build and
> then
> > retracted the levelers. They went back up fine, phew! Don't know why
> > everything had shifted back, the air brake was set etc....guess
> maybe
> > I had them too high? I put them back down but it appeared the LR one
> > was at slight angle forward so I put them back up for the night.
> > Haven't got around to putting them down as I will likely move the
> > coach to a different park spot for the couple weeks we will be home.
> > Anyone had this experience?
> >
> > Thanks
> > Rose Mary
> > 82 FC 35
> > JP's White Bird
> > at home in Oregon for Thanksgiving
> >
>

[Bob Lawrence]

Hi Rose Mary,
Don't feel bad as I have done the same thing to our bus.
In my case, I tried lifting the bus after we first got her to see if
I could lift the entire bus off the ground with just the jacks..a guy
thing...anyway, she lifted up, stayed ok for about 1 minute, then
fell forward off the jacks. What a crash!!
Since the front jacks swivel back, no problem..the back jacks are on
a swivel bolt and swiveled back and the right rear pulled off the
fluid hose. Only damage done. Had a new hose made, simple repair.
If your hose is still attached to jack and it goes down without a
leak, you got lucky.
You would need wheel chocks to use on the front tires if you are on
another incline so this doesn't happen again.
Back wheels off the ground equals no brakes on the ground.
Bob Lawrence
84 PT36
Fulltiming presently in Fernley Nv (outside of Reno)

> Hi group,
> been home 2 nights, last night in the middle of a deep sleep (I
still
> sleep in the coach when we are home as my daughter is taking care of
> the homefront and has my room in the house)..
> I was awakened by a crash and things falling...
> I had both back levelers up to level the coach on a slight incline.
> When I went out and looked the levelers were actually under the
coach
> in the wrong direction....I started her up, let the air build and
then
> retracted the levelers. They went back up fine, phew! Don't know why
> everything had shifted back, the air brake was set etc....guess
maybe
> I had them too high? I put them back down but it appeared the LR one
> was at slight angle forward so I put them back up for the night.
> Haven't got around to putting them down as I will likely move the
> coach to a different park spot for the couple weeks we will be home.
> Anyone had this experience?
>
> Thanks
> Rose Mary
> 82 FC 35
> JP's White Bird
> at home in Oregon for Thanksgiving
>

[Pete Masterson]

If the rear wheels were off the ground, there's no parking brake
holding you from moving. If that was the case, but wheel chocks under
the front wheels. A good idea in any event.

Pete Masterson
'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
aeonix1@...
On the road at Lockhart Texas



On Nov 11, 2007, at 11:09 AM, Rose Mary wrote:

> Hi group,
> been home 2 nights, last night in the middle of a deep sleep (I still
> sleep in the coach when we are home as my daughter is taking care of
> the homefront and has my room in the house)..
> I was awakened by a crash and things falling...
> I had both back levelers up to level the coach on a slight incline.
> When I went out and looked the levelers were actually under the coach
> in the wrong direction....I started her up, let the air build and then
> retracted the levelers. They went back up fine, phew! Don't know why
> everything had shifted back, the air brake was set etc....guess maybe
> I had them too high? I put them back down but it appeared the LR one
> was at slight angle forward so I put them back up for the night.
> Haven't got around to putting them down as I will likely move the
> coach to a different park spot for the couple weeks we will be home.
> Anyone had this experience?
>
> Thanks
> Rose Mary
> 82 FC 35
> JP's White Bird
> at home in Oregon for Thanksgiving

[Mike Hohnstein]

Yup, that's what killed the dead guy who's widow I bought my first FC from. Had
brandy new rear jacks, I suspect he figgered he was good to go on workin' under
the bus. His body was the wheel chock he shoulda used, rear dual got him as it
rolled forward. Guess he figured the front brakes locked when the parking brake
set.
MH
----- Original Message -----
From: Robert Britton
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2007 12:04 PM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: crash down in the middle of the night!


The air brake only sets the rear brakes. If you have the rear jacks
set and lift the rear wheels while on an incline there is nothing to
keep the coach from rolling.

Robert Britton
87FC
Hollister, California

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Rose Mary"
wrote:
>
> Hi group,
> been home 2 nights, last night in the middle of a deep sleep (I
still
> sleep in the coach when we are home as my daughter is taking care of
> the homefront and has my room in the house)..
> I was awakened by a crash and things falling...
> I had both back levelers up to level the coach on a slight incline.
> When I went out and looked the levelers were actually under the
coach
> in the wrong direction....I started her up, let the air build and
then
> retracted the levelers. They went back up fine, phew! Don't know why
> everything had shifted back, the air brake was set etc....guess
maybe
> I had them too high? I put them back down but it appeared the LR one
> was at slight angle forward so I put them back up for the night.
> Haven't got around to putting them down as I will likely move the
> coach to a different park spot for the couple weeks we will be home.
> Anyone had this experience?
>
> Thanks
> Rose Mary
> 82 FC 35
> JP's White Bird
> at home in Oregon for Thanksgiving
>





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[mbulriss]

Mike,

That story about the prior owner of your coach makes me cringe every
time you mention it! It also justifies my wooden ramps, wheel chocks,
two extra 20 ton hydraulic jacks and two 20 ton jack stands. I've had
friends ask me why I carry all that 'crap' and it takes me a while to
position everything before I crawl under there, but I don't care, I'm
coming back out on my own!

Mike Bulriss
1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
San Antonio, TX

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Hohnstein"
<MHOHNSTEIN@...> wrote:
>
> Yup, that's what killed the dead guy who's widow I bought my first
FC from. Had brandy new rear jacks, I suspect he figgered he was good
to go on workin' under the bus. His body was the wheel chock he
shoulda used, rear dual got him as it rolled forward. Guess he
figured the front brakes locked when the parking brake set.
> MH
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Robert Britton
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2007 12:04 PM
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: crash down in the middle of the night!
>
>
> The air brake only sets the rear brakes. If you have the rear jacks
> set and lift the rear wheels while on an incline there is nothing to
> keep the coach from rolling.
>
> Robert Britton
> 87FC
> Hollister, California
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Rose Mary"
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi group,
> > been home 2 nights, last night in the middle of a deep sleep (I
> still
> > sleep in the coach when we are home as my daughter is taking care of
> > the homefront and has my room in the house)..
> > I was awakened by a crash and things falling...
> > I had both back levelers up to level the coach on a slight incline.
> > When I went out and looked the levelers were actually under the
> coach
> > in the wrong direction....I started her up, let the air build and
> then
> > retracted the levelers. They went back up fine, phew! Don't know why
> > everything had shifted back, the air brake was set etc....guess
> maybe
> > I had them too high? I put them back down but it appeared the LR one
> > was at slight angle forward so I put them back up for the night.
> > Haven't got around to putting them down as I will likely move the
> > coach to a different park spot for the couple weeks we will be home.
> > Anyone had this experience?
> >
> > Thanks
> > Rose Mary
> > 82 FC 35
> > JP's White Bird
> > at home in Oregon for Thanksgiving
> >
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

[Jon]

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "mbulriss" <mbulriss@...>
wrote:
>
> Mike,
>
> That story about the prior owner of your coach makes me cringe every
> time you mention it! It also justifies my wooden ramps, wheel
chocks,
> two extra 20 ton hydraulic jacks and two 20 ton jack stands. I've
had
> friends ask me why I carry all that 'crap' and it takes me a while
to
> position everything before I crawl under there, but I don't care,
I'm
> coming back out on my own!
>
> Mike Bulriss
> 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
> San Antonio, TX
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Hohnstein"
> <MHOHNSTEIN@> wrote:
> >
> > Yup, that's what killed the dead guy who's widow I bought my first
> FC from. Had brandy new rear jacks, I suspect he figgered he was
good
> to go on workin' under the bus. His body was the wheel chock he
> shoulda used, rear dual got him as it rolled forward. Guess he
> figured the front brakes locked when the parking brake set.
> > MH
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Robert Britton
> > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2007 12:04 PM
> > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: crash down in the middle of the
night!
> >
> >
> > The air brake only sets the rear brakes. If you have the rear
jacks
> > set and lift the rear wheels while on an incline there is
nothing to
> > keep the coach from rolling.
> >
> > Robert Britton
> > 87FC
> > Hollister, California
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Rose Mary"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi group,
> > > been home 2 nights, last night in the middle of a deep sleep
(I
> > still
> > > sleep in the coach when we are home as my daughter is taking
care of
> > > the homefront and has my room in the house)..
> > > I was awakened by a crash and things falling...
> > > I had both back levelers up to level the coach on a slight
incline.
> > > When I went out and looked the levelers were actually under
the
> > coach
> > > in the wrong direction....I started her up, let the air build
and
> > then
> > > retracted the levelers. They went back up fine, phew! Don't
know why
> > > everything had shifted back, the air brake was set
etc....guess
> > maybe
> > > I had them too high? I put them back down but it appeared the
LR one
> > > was at slight angle forward so I put them back up for the
night.
> > > Haven't got around to putting them down as I will likely move
the
> > > coach to a different park spot for the couple weeks we will
be home.
> > > Anyone had this experience?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Rose Mary
> > > 82 FC 35
> > > JP's White Bird
> > > at home in Oregon for Thanksgiving
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >



Thanks for that info on the leveling jacks! I don't have those but
it was interesting to find out only the back brakes are locked in
place when you shut down the coach.


Jipjob
78 Wanderlodge

[Bob & Carol Howald`]

Back in the early 90's we were camped in florissant,Wy.(terrible
campground-lots of rocks) we were in our 85pt-40 and had the same
thing happen the left rear slipped and the jack flipped up and
knocked the return spring off. We were on our way back to Illinois
so made a trip back via way of Moscow,Iowa (HWH) Paul had a mechanic
from the shop come out and reinstall the spring, Really big pry bars
we were glad we stopped as they knew the technique to get it done...
When in doubt we always use the wheel chocks NOW.....Bob 93pt40..Il.
s
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "mbulriss" <mbulriss@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Mike,
> >
> > That story about the prior owner of your coach makes me cringe
every
> > time you mention it! It also justifies my wooden ramps, wheel
> chocks,
> > two extra 20 ton hydraulic jacks and two 20 ton jack stands.
I've
> had
> > friends ask me why I carry all that 'crap' and it takes me a
while
> to
> > position everything before I crawl under there, but I don't care,
> I'm
> > coming back out on my own!
> >
> > Mike Bulriss
> > 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
> > San Antonio, TX
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Hohnstein"
> > <MHOHNSTEIN@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Yup, that's what killed the dead guy who's widow I bought my
first
> > FC from. Had brandy new rear jacks, I suspect he figgered he was
> good
> > to go on workin' under the bus. His body was the wheel chock he
> > shoulda used, rear dual got him as it rolled forward. Guess he
> > figured the front brakes locked when the parking brake set.
> > > MH
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Robert Britton
> > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2007 12:04 PM
> > > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: crash down in the middle of
the
> night!
> > >
> > >
> > > The air brake only sets the rear brakes. If you have the rear
> jacks
> > > set and lift the rear wheels while on an incline there is
> nothing to
> > > keep the coach from rolling.
> > >
> > > Robert Britton
> > > 87FC
> > > Hollister, California
> > >
> > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Rose Mary"
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi group,
> > > > been home 2 nights, last night in the middle of a deep
sleep
> (I
> > > still
> > > > sleep in the coach when we are home as my daughter is
taking
> care of
> > > > the homefront and has my room in the house)..
> > > > I was awakened by a crash and things falling...
> > > > I had both back levelers up to level the coach on a slight
> incline.
> > > > When I went out and looked the levelers were actually under
> the
> > > coach
> > > > in the wrong direction....I started her up, let the air
build
> and
> > > then
> > > > retracted the levelers. They went back up fine, phew! Don't
> know why
> > > > everything had shifted back, the air brake was set
> etc....guess
> > > maybe
> > > > I had them too high? I put them back down but it appeared
the
> LR one
> > > > was at slight angle forward so I put them back up for the
> night.
> > > > Haven't got around to putting them down as I will likely
move
> the
> > > > coach to a different park spot for the couple weeks we will
> be home.
> > > > Anyone had this experience?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > > Rose Mary
> > > > 82 FC 35
> > > > JP's White Bird
> > > > at home in Oregon for Thanksgiving
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
>
>
>
> Thanks for that info on the leveling jacks! I don't have those but
> it was interesting to find out only the back brakes are locked in
> place when you shut down the coach.
>
>
> Jipjob
> 78 Wanderlodge
>

[thomas_sorrentino]

I've had it happen to me also. In my case a fitting broke off at the
jack and fluid was everywhere. I had to remove the jack to e-z out
the fitting.
FWIW the coach was on what I would consider relatively flat ground. I
had wheel chocks front and back of one front wheel. I had these wheel
chocks
http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/s...t_6970_137
76_13776
After the big fall the front tire was actually on top of, squishing
the wheel chock. I wish I had taken a photo, but I was too upset.
The next day I ordered the chocks John Finn recommended!

Tom Sorrentino
1987 PT38
Bedford Hills, NY



--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Rose Mary"
wrote:
>
> Hi group,
> been home 2 nights, last night in the middle of a deep sleep (I
still
> sleep in the coach when we are home as my daughter is taking care of
> the homefront and has my room in the house)..
> I was awakened by a crash and things falling...
> I had both back levelers up to level the coach on a slight incline.
> When I went out and looked the levelers were actually under the
coach
> in the wrong direction....I started her up, let the air build and
then
> retracted the levelers. They went back up fine, phew! Don't know why
> everything had shifted back, the air brake was set etc....guess
maybe
> I had them too high? I put them back down but it appeared the LR one
> was at slight angle forward so I put them back up for the night.
> Haven't got around to putting them down as I will likely move the
> coach to a different park spot for the couple weeks we will be home.
> Anyone had this experience?
>
> Thanks
> Rose Mary
> 82 FC 35
> JP's White Bird
> at home in Oregon for Thanksgiving
>