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heater problem
11-12-2007, 02:28
Post: #1
heater problem
Robert, I wonder if you have an air lock? I replaced a couple hoses and left
my radiator cap off for a short warm up, no air in my lines. Hope yours will
be that easy.

Ernie Ekberg
83PT40
Weatherford, Tx




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11-12-2007, 07:07
Post: #2
heater problem
We just completed a 3000 mile trip in our bus and nothing broke or went
wrong the whole way. It was such an awsome trip. So I have decided to
try to fix a situation that has existed since we have had this bus.
There are three heat exchangers in the coach plus the heat from the
dash. Also I just installed the new domestic water heater that has
connections for the engine coolant that I hooked up. Bothe of the rear
heaters work and get really hot, the one under the front sofa blows
almos cold air, the dash blows cold air, and finally the water heater
doesnt have hot water after driving the bus all day.

When I replaced the water heater last week I noticed that in the inlet
for the engine coolant there was a waxy substance that seemed to be
clogging the line at the copper elbow. I cleaned it out and replaced it.

Any ideas on where to start?

I checked at the engine and found three red handle valves and they all
seem to be open

Robert Rahn
88 pt 40
Warner Robins, Ga.
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11-12-2007, 08:09
Post: #3
heater problem
Robert, I agree with Ernie, It's AIR. You 'll have to manually bleed
the line's or do as Ernie suggest and leave the cap off. One way to
speed up the natural bleed process is to park the coach on a steep
hill with the rear (engine) high and leave the cap off overnight.
Good Luck..Bob 93pt-40 Il. raining

>
> Robert, I wonder if you have an air lock? I replaced a couple hoses
and left
> my radiator cap off for a short warm up, no air in my lines. Hope
yours will
> be that easy.
>
> Ernie Ekberg
> 83PT40
> Weatherford, Tx
>
>
>
>
> ************************************** See what's new at
http://www.aol.com
>
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11-12-2007, 08:19
Post: #4
heater problem
Look for valve #4. There are 4 valves on our coach, 8V92.

On Nov 12, 2007 11:28 AM, wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Robert, I wonder if you have an air lock? I replaced a couple hoses and left
> my radiator cap off for a short warm up, no air in my lines. Hope yours
> will
> be that easy.
>
> Ernie Ekberg
> 83PT40
> Weatherford, Tx
>
> ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>



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Curt Sprenger
1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
Anaheim Hills, CA
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11-12-2007, 09:28
Post: #5
heater problem
> We just completed a 3000 mile trip in our bus and nothing broke or
> went wrong the whole way. It was such an awsome trip.

To all of the newbies and wannabes out there that we hear from that
are frightened off by all the posts about problems, *this* is the
normal type of trip report that you don't usually hear about. Since
these forums are mainly about help on problems, you usually hear only
the bad stuff because something broke. This report from Robert is
actually the normal result of good maintenance practices.

FWIW. Thanks for posting this Robert.

Mike Bulriss
1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
San Antonio, TX


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Robert & Teri Rahn"
wrote:
>
> We just completed a 3000 mile trip in our bus and nothing broke or went
> wrong the whole way. It was such an awsome trip. So I have decided to
> try to fix a situation that has existed since we have had this bus.
> There are three heat exchangers in the coach plus the heat from the
> dash. Also I just installed the new domestic water heater that has
> connections for the engine coolant that I hooked up. Bothe of the rear
> heaters work and get really hot, the one under the front sofa blows
> almos cold air, the dash blows cold air, and finally the water heater
> doesnt have hot water after driving the bus all day.
>
> When I replaced the water heater last week I noticed that in the inlet
> for the engine coolant there was a waxy substance that seemed to be
> clogging the line at the copper elbow. I cleaned it out and replaced it.
>
> Any ideas on where to start?
>
> I checked at the engine and found three red handle valves and they all
> seem to be open
>
> Robert Rahn
> 88 pt 40
> Warner Robins, Ga.
>
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11-12-2007, 09:50
Post: #6
heater problem
> 88 pt 40

To take it a step further, how many 19 year SOB ( some other brand )
are still on the road much less have the ability to make a 3000 mile
trip?

I just completed a 1000 mile trip with no problems and last month
went to W. Virginia and Cinn totalling 2000+ miles with no problems.

Al Johnson
'96 BMC B75 ==> B100
Mandeville, Louisiana



--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "mbulriss" <mbulriss@...>
wrote:
>
> > We just completed a 3000 mile trip in our bus and nothing broke
or
> > went wrong the whole way. It was such an awsome trip.
>
> To all of the newbies and wannabes out there that we hear from that
> are frightened off by all the posts about problems, *this* is the
> normal type of trip report that you don't usually hear about. Since
> these forums are mainly about help on problems, you usually hear
only
> the bad stuff because something broke. This report from Robert is
> actually the normal result of good maintenance practices.
>
> FWIW. Thanks for posting this Robert.
>
> Mike Bulriss
> 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
> San Antonio, TX
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Robert & Teri Rahn"
> wrote:
> >
> > We just completed a 3000 mile trip in our bus and nothing broke
or went
> > wrong the whole way. It was such an awsome trip. So I have
decided to
> > try to fix a situation that has existed since we have had this
bus.
> > There are three heat exchangers in the coach plus the heat from
the
> > dash. Also I just installed the new domestic water heater that
has
> > connections for the engine coolant that I hooked up. Bothe of the
rear
> > heaters work and get really hot, the one under the front sofa
blows
> > almos cold air, the dash blows cold air, and finally the water
heater
> > doesnt have hot water after driving the bus all day.
> >
> > When I replaced the water heater last week I noticed that in the
inlet
> > for the engine coolant there was a waxy substance that seemed to
be
> > clogging the line at the copper elbow. I cleaned it out and
replaced it.
> >
> > Any ideas on where to start?
> >
> > I checked at the engine and found three red handle valves and
they all
> > seem to be open
> >
> > Robert Rahn
> > 88 pt 40
> > Warner Robins, Ga.
> >
>
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11-13-2007, 04:12
Post: #7
heater problem
Robert,
Do you have a winter / summer switch on your bus that controls an assist pump
to help pump the water to the front of the bus.
Howard T., Sowega, 86 PT40

----- Original Message -----
From: Robert & Teri Rahn
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 2:07 PM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] heater problem


We just completed a 3000 mile trip in our bus and nothing broke or went
wrong the whole way. It was such an awsome trip. So I have decided to
try to fix a situation that has existed since we have had this bus.
There are three heat exchangers in the coach plus the heat from the
dash. Also I just installed the new domestic water heater that has
connections for the engine coolant that I hooked up. Bothe of the rear
heaters work and get really hot, the one under the front sofa blows
almos cold air, the dash blows cold air, and finally the water heater
doesnt have hot water after driving the bus all day.

When I replaced the water heater last week I noticed that in the inlet
for the engine coolant there was a waxy substance that seemed to be
clogging the line at the copper elbow. I cleaned it out and replaced it.

Any ideas on where to start?

I checked at the engine and found three red handle valves and they all
seem to be open

Robert Rahn
88 pt 40
Warner Robins, Ga.






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11-13-2007, 04:53
Post: #8
heater problem
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Bob & Carol Howald`"
wrote:
>I left the cap off overnight and then turned the bus around this
morning and parked with the font way downhill and it still doesnt
work. I am thinking oof cutting the lines in the drivers side front
wheelwell and installing a t with a valve and hose connection. I
tried to take the hoses off but couldnt pry them loose.

Robert Rahn
88 PT 40
Warner Robins, Ga
> Robert, I agree with Ernie, It's AIR. You 'll have to manually
bleed
> the line's or do as Ernie suggest and leave the cap off. One way to
> speed up the natural bleed process is to park the coach on a steep
> hill with the rear (engine) high and leave the cap off overnight.
> Good Luck..Bob 93pt-40 Il. raining
>
> >
> > Robert, I wonder if you have an air lock? I replaced a couple
hoses
> and left
> > my radiator cap off for a short warm up, no air in my lines. Hope
> yours will
> > be that easy.
> >
> > Ernie Ekberg
> > 83PT40
> > Weatherford, Tx
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ************************************** See what's new at
> http://www.aol.com
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
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11-13-2007, 06:27
Post: #9
heater problem
Robert:
Not sure if you have one or not, but in my coach, not only the summer/winter
switch but there is a booster pump as well.
Check the files section, 1984 redrawn diagrams, that might help you.

Bill 84 FC 35 SB "$quanderlodge"
Terrace, B.C. Canada


----- Original Message ----
From: Howard O. Truitt To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 8:12:08 AM
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] heater problem













Robert,

Do you have a winter / summer switch on your bus that controls an assist pump
to help pump the water to the front of the bus.

Howard T., Sowega, 86 PT40



----- Original Message -----

From: Robert & Teri Rahn

To: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com

Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 2:07 PM

Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] heater problem



We just completed a 3000 mile trip in our bus and nothing broke or went

wrong the whole way. It was such an awsome trip. So I have decided to

try to fix a situation that has existed since we have had this bus.

There are three heat exchangers in the coach plus the heat from the

dash. Also I just installed the new domestic water heater that has

connections for the engine coolant that I hooked up. Bothe of the rear

heaters work and get really hot, the one under the front sofa blows

almos cold air, the dash blows cold air, and finally the water heater

doesnt have hot water after driving the bus all day.



When I replaced the water heater last week I noticed that in the inlet

for the engine coolant there was a waxy substance that seemed to be

clogging the line at the copper elbow. I cleaned it out and replaced it.



Any ideas on where to start?



I checked at the engine and found three red handle valves and they all

seem to be open



Robert Rahn

88 pt 40

Warner Robins, Ga.



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11-13-2007, 07:01
Post: #10
heater problem
Robert, On my 84 there was a sporlan valve for the forward heater,
this was located on the right (curb) front side of the coach up just
inside the fender. If you have one? and it's not opening you'll not
get heat up front. I would not cut the lines just yet. Good
luck..Bob 93pt40
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Bob & Carol Howald`"
> wrote:
> >I left the cap off overnight and then turned the bus around this
> morning and parked with the font way downhill and it still doesnt
> work. I am thinking oof cutting the lines in the drivers side front
> wheelwell and installing a t with a valve and hose connection. I
> tried to take the hoses off but couldnt pry them loose.
>
> Robert Rahn
> 88 PT 40
> Warner Robins, Ga
> > Robert, I agree with Ernie, It's AIR. You 'll have to manually
> bleed
> > the line's or do as Ernie suggest and leave the cap off. One way
to
> > speed up the natural bleed process is to park the coach on a
steep
> > hill with the rear (engine) high and leave the cap off overnight.
> > Good Luck..Bob 93pt-40 Il. raining
> >
> > >
> > > Robert, I wonder if you have an air lock? I replaced a couple
> hoses
> > and left
> > > my radiator cap off for a short warm up, no air in my lines.
Hope
> > yours will
> > > be that easy.
> > >
> > > Ernie Ekberg
> > > 83PT40
> > > Weatherford, Tx
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ************************************** See what's new at
> > http://www.aol.com
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
>
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