Spare Tire Crane?

[Robert Akins]

Hi Kurt: I have a tire crane that was on my coach when I bought it...The crane
fastens to the cargo rack that runs around the perimeter of the top of the
coach.The crane folds down and is powered by a 12 VDC motor winch. I took it
and the spare off and have stored the crane all these years. The spare I gave
to a trucker friend. You can have the crane for free if you want it...it is
probably too bulky to ship. It will need to be sandblasted and painted.

I have never had any tire problems in the 18 years I have driven Wanderlodge
motorhomes.

Robert
1987 PT40

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[Rob Robinson]

If I thought my travels would take me some place where it would be difficult
to find a new tire (Mexico or Alaska come to mind) I might consider putting
one on the roof.

On 12/11/2007, Leroy Eckert wrote:
>
> Personally, I don't need the extra weight for more reasons than a spare
> tire. If you have a spare, you need a 20,000 pound jack and tons of other
> crap also unless you intend to call road service to change the thing. I
> ain't changing a tire using the bus jacks. Just my opinion. Most folks
> ignore my opinion because opinions are like, you know, everyone has one. lol
>
> bumpersbird > wrote: Does
> anybody out there know anything about roof mounted cranes for a
> spare tire? I've heard of them but never seen one. My last trip to
> Texas I lost a tag tire to a balloned side wall. Caught it in time. But
> it did pop the next morning. So I've decided that a spare is in order.
> Any help would be great.
>
> Kurt Horvath
> 95 PT-42
> 10ACe
>
>
>
>
>
> Leroy Eckert
> 1990 WB-40 "Smoke N Mirrors"
> Dahlonega, GA
>
> ---------------------------------
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>



--
Rob, Sue & Merlin Robinson
94 WLWB


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[Leroy Eckert]

Possibly.
My simple approach to tires on the coach is this. Tires are a major expense on a
coach. This is how I approach it, for good or for bad.
First determine what your major vise is. It may be beer(mine)bottled water,
cigars, coffee, candy etc. No matter the vise, you spend more than $2.00 per day
on it. Just cut the vise spending by $2.00 day, put the cash in the bus safe and
after 5 years you have a brand new set of tires. It will not be painful and you
do not need a spare. Check it out.
$2.00x30x12=$720x5=$3600
Change tires every five years. There is no guarantee that spare hanging on the
roof in the sun for 5 years is worth a damn anyway.

Rob Robinson wrote: If I
thought my travels would take me some place where it would be difficult
to find a new tire (Mexico or Alaska come to mind) I might consider putting
one on the roof.

On 12/11/2007, Leroy Eckert wrote:
>
> Personally, I don't need the extra weight for more reasons than a spare
> tire. If you have a spare, you need a 20,000 pound jack and tons of other
> crap also unless you intend to call road service to change the thing. I
> ain't changing a tire using the bus jacks. Just my opinion. Most folks
> ignore my opinion because opinions are like, you know, everyone has one. lol
>
> bumpersbird > wrote: Does
> anybody out there know anything about roof mounted cranes for a
> spare tire? I've heard of them but never seen one. My last trip to
> Texas I lost a tag tire to a balloned side wall. Caught it in time. But
> it did pop the next morning. So I've decided that a spare is in order.
> Any help would be great.
>
> Kurt Horvath
> 95 PT-42
> 10ACe
>
>
>
>
>
> Leroy Eckert
> 1990 WB-40 "Smoke N Mirrors"
> Dahlonega, GA
>
> ---------------------------------
> Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try
> it now.
>
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>
>
>

--
Rob, Sue & Merlin Robinson
94 WLWB

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Leroy Eckert
1990 WB-40 "Smoke N Mirrors"
Dahlonega, GA

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[bubblerboy64]

That is a very good point Leroy. A guy isn't going to spring for a
new tire for a spare so the chances are good that about the time you
would need it might be totally worthless. If I could have figured
away to carry one under the coach I would have considered it but on
top just doesn't make sense for me. Now if you really want get into
the figurin: Figure what that extra weight costs you in fuel over
the time its on the roof. Well, I take that back. If you're cutting
it that close you better forget that "Bus" and ride a bike.

John Heckman
central Pa
1973 FC










>
> Possibly.
> My simple approach to tires on the coach is this. Tires are a
major expense on a coach. This is how I approach it, for good or for
bad.
> First determine what your major vise is. It may be beer(mine)
bottled water, cigars, coffee, candy etc. No matter the vise, you
spend more than $2.00 per day on it. Just cut the vise spending by
$2.00 day, put the cash in the bus safe and after 5 years you have a
brand new set of tires. It will not be painful and you do not need a
spare. Check it out.
> $2.00x30x12=$720x5=$3600
> Change tires every five years. There is no guarantee that spare
hanging on the roof in the sun for 5 years is worth a damn anyway.
>
> Rob Robinson wrote:
If I thought my travels would take me some place where it would be
difficult
> to find a new tire (Mexico or Alaska come to mind) I might
consider putting
> one on the roof.
>
> On 12/11/2007, Leroy Eckert wrote:
> >
> > Personally, I don't need the extra weight for more reasons
than a spare
> > tire. If you have a spare, you need a 20,000 pound jack and
tons of other
> > crap also unless you intend to call road service to change the
thing. I
> > ain't changing a tire using the bus jacks. Just my opinion.
Most folks
> > ignore my opinion because opinions are like, you know, everyone
has one. lol
> >
> > bumpersbird > wrote:
Does
> > anybody out there know anything about roof mounted cranes for a
> > spare tire? I've heard of them but never seen one. My last trip
to
> > Texas I lost a tag tire to a balloned side wall. Caught it in
time. But
> > it did pop the next morning. So I've decided that a spare is in
order.
> > Any help would be great.
> >
> > Kurt Horvath
> > 95 PT-42
> > 10ACe
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Leroy Eckert
> > 1990 WB-40 "Smoke N Mirrors"
> > Dahlonega, GA
> >
> > ---------------------------------
> > Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo
Mobile. Try
> > it now.
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> Rob, Sue & Merlin Robinson
> 94 WLWB
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Leroy Eckert
> 1990 WB-40 "Smoke N Mirrors"
> Dahlonega, GA
>
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[Leroy Eckert]

Whooa Whooa, that's what I am saying. $400 buys a lot of beer!, another type of
fuel. lol

bubblerboy64 wrote: That is a
very good point Leroy. A guy isn't going to spring for a
new tire for a spare so the chances are good that about the time you
would need it might be totally worthless. If I could have figured
away to carry one under the coach I would have considered it but on
top just doesn't make sense for me. Now if you really want get into
the figurin: Figure what that extra weight costs you in fuel over
the time its on the roof. Well, I take that back. If you're cutting
it that close you better forget that "Bus" and ride a bike.

John Heckman
central Pa
1973 FC

>
> Possibly.
> My simple approach to tires on the coach is this. Tires are a
major expense on a coach. This is how I approach it, for good or for
bad.
> First determine what your major vise is. It may be beer(mine)
bottled water, cigars, coffee, candy etc. No matter the vise, you
spend more than $2.00 per day on it. Just cut the vise spending by
$2.00 day, put the cash in the bus safe and after 5 years you have a
brand new set of tires. It will not be painful and you do not need a
spare. Check it out.
> $2.00x30x12=$720x5=$3600
> Change tires every five years. There is no guarantee that spare
hanging on the roof in the sun for 5 years is worth a damn anyway.
>
> Rob Robinson wrote:
If I thought my travels would take me some place where it would be
difficult
> to find a new tire (Mexico or Alaska come to mind) I might
consider putting
> one on the roof.
>
> On 12/11/2007, Leroy Eckert wrote:
> >
> > Personally, I don't need the extra weight for more reasons
than a spare
> > tire. If you have a spare, you need a 20,000 pound jack and
tons of other
> > crap also unless you intend to call road service to change the
thing. I
> > ain't changing a tire using the bus jacks. Just my opinion.
Most folks
> > ignore my opinion because opinions are like, you know, everyone
has one. lol
> >
> > bumpersbird > wrote:
Does
> > anybody out there know anything about roof mounted cranes for a
> > spare tire? I've heard of them but never seen one. My last trip
to
> > Texas I lost a tag tire to a balloned side wall. Caught it in
time. But
> > it did pop the next morning. So I've decided that a spare is in
order.
> > Any help would be great.
> >
> > Kurt Horvath
> > 95 PT-42
> > 10ACe
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Leroy Eckert
> > 1990 WB-40 "Smoke N Mirrors"
> > Dahlonega, GA
> >
> > ---------------------------------
> > Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo
Mobile. Try
> > it now.
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> Rob, Sue & Merlin Robinson
> 94 WLWB
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Leroy Eckert
> 1990 WB-40 "Smoke N Mirrors"
> Dahlonega, GA
>
> ---------------------------------
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Leroy Eckert
1990 WB-40 "Smoke N Mirrors"
Dahlonega, GA

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[Jon]

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "bubblerboy64"
wrote:
>
> That is a very good point Leroy. A guy isn't going to spring for a
> new tire for a spare so the chances are good that about the time
you
> would need it might be totally worthless. If I could have figured
> away to carry one under the coach I would have considered it but on
> top just doesn't make sense for me. Now if you really want get
into
> the figurin: Figure what that extra weight costs you in fuel over
> the time its on the roof. Well, I take that back. If you're cutting
> it that close you better forget that "Bus" and ride a bike.
>
> John Heckman
> central Pa
> 1973 FC
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >
> > Possibly.
> > My simple approach to tires on the coach is this. Tires are a
> major expense on a coach. This is how I approach it, for good or
for
> bad.
> > First determine what your major vise is. It may be beer(mine)
> bottled water, cigars, coffee, candy etc. No matter the vise, you
> spend more than $2.00 per day on it. Just cut the vise spending by
> $2.00 day, put the cash in the bus safe and after 5 years you have
a
> brand new set of tires. It will not be painful and you do not need
a
> spare. Check it out.
> > $2.00x30x12=$720x5=$3600
> > Change tires every five years. There is no guarantee that spare
> hanging on the roof in the sun for 5 years is worth a damn anyway.
> >
> > Rob Robinson wrote:
> If I thought my travels would take me some place where it would be
> difficult
> > to find a new tire (Mexico or Alaska come to mind) I might
> consider putting
> > one on the roof.
> >
> > On 12/11/2007, Leroy Eckert wrote:
> > >
> > > Personally, I don't need the extra weight for more reasons
> than a spare
> > > tire. If you have a spare, you need a 20,000 pound jack and
> tons of other
> > > crap also unless you intend to call road service to change the
> thing. I
> > > ain't changing a tire using the bus jacks. Just my opinion.
> Most folks
> > > ignore my opinion because opinions are like, you know,
everyone
> has one. lol
> > >
> > > bumpersbird > wrote:
> Does
> > > anybody out there know anything about roof mounted cranes for a
> > > spare tire? I've heard of them but never seen one. My last
trip
> to
> > > Texas I lost a tag tire to a balloned side wall. Caught it in
> time. But
> > > it did pop the next morning. So I've decided that a spare is
in
> order.
> > > Any help would be great.
> > >
> > > Kurt Horvath
> > > 95 PT-42
> > > 10ACe
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Leroy Eckert
> > > 1990 WB-40 "Smoke N Mirrors"
> > > Dahlonega, GA
> > >
> > > ---------------------------------
> > > Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo
> Mobile. Try
> > > it now.
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Rob, Sue & Merlin Robinson
> > 94 WLWB
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Leroy Eckert
> > 1990 WB-40 "Smoke N Mirrors"
> > Dahlonega, GA
> >
> > ---------------------------------
> > Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your
> homepage.
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>How about just having the crane in the back to lift to assist our
graying generation owners up to the top of there coaches sort of like
having an elevator.

But really how many people do use the top of there coaches? All
that extra weight up there must cause some extra imbalance to the
coach and what about those low freeway overpasses? I Think it would
be just easier to use what space you have on board and forget the
roof. I also wonder how people have had a close call with trying to
stow away extra junk and had a close call with falling over the side?
Maybe that's why that goats ralling is up there?

Jon

[bubblerboy64]

Jon, That's another good point. While I was taking the ole spare off
the roof I also took that big bod off as well. I was up there doing
repairs to the fans and replacing the rear air and I decided that I
really had no business being up there any more then absolutely
necessary.

John Heckman
central Pa
1973





>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "bubblerboy64"
> wrote:
> >
> > That is a very good point Leroy. A guy isn't going to spring for
a
> > new tire for a spare so the chances are good that about the time
> you
> > would need it might be totally worthless. If I could have
figured
> > away to carry one under the coach I would have considered it but
on
> > top just doesn't make sense for me. Now if you really want get
> into
> > the figurin: Figure what that extra weight costs you in fuel
over
> > the time its on the roof. Well, I take that back. If you're
cutting
> > it that close you better forget that "Bus" and ride a bike.
> >
> > John Heckman
> > central Pa
> > 1973 FC
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Possibly.
> > > My simple approach to tires on the coach is this. Tires are a
> > major expense on a coach. This is how I approach it, for good or
> for
> > bad.
> > > First determine what your major vise is. It may be beer(mine)
> > bottled water, cigars, coffee, candy etc. No matter the vise, you
> > spend more than $2.00 per day on it. Just cut the vise spending
by
> > $2.00 day, put the cash in the bus safe and after 5 years you
have
> a
> > brand new set of tires. It will not be painful and you do not
need
> a
> > spare. Check it out.
> > > $2.00x30x12=$720x5=$3600
> > > Change tires every five years. There is no guarantee that spare
> > hanging on the roof in the sun for 5 years is worth a damn anyway.
> > >
> > > Rob Robinson wrote:
> > If I thought my travels would take me some place where it would
be
> > difficult
> > > to find a new tire (Mexico or Alaska come to mind) I might
> > consider putting
> > > one on the roof.
> > >
> > > On 12/11/2007, Leroy Eckert wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Personally, I don't need the extra weight for more reasons
> > than a spare
> > > > tire. If you have a spare, you need a 20,000 pound jack and
> > tons of other
> > > > crap also unless you intend to call road service to change
the
> > thing. I
> > > > ain't changing a tire using the bus jacks. Just my opinion.
> > Most folks
> > > > ignore my opinion because opinions are like, you know,
> everyone
> > has one. lol
> > > >
> > > > bumpersbird > wrote:
> > Does
> > > > anybody out there know anything about roof mounted cranes
for a
> > > > spare tire? I've heard of them but never seen one. My last
> trip
> > to
> > > > Texas I lost a tag tire to a balloned side wall. Caught it
in
> > time. But
> > > > it did pop the next morning. So I've decided that a spare is
> in
> > order.
> > > > Any help would be great.
> > > >
> > > > Kurt Horvath
> > > > 95 PT-42
> > > > 10ACe
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Leroy Eckert
> > > > 1990 WB-40 "Smoke N Mirrors"
> > > > Dahlonega, GA
> > > >
> > > > ---------------------------------
> > > > Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo
> > Mobile. Try
> > > > it now.
> > > >
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Rob, Sue & Merlin Robinson
> > > 94 WLWB
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Leroy Eckert
> > > 1990 WB-40 "Smoke N Mirrors"
> > > Dahlonega, GA
> > >
> > > ---------------------------------
> > > Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your
> > homepage.
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >How about just having the crane in the back to lift to assist our
> graying generation owners up to the top of there coaches sort of
like
> having an elevator.
>
> But really how many people do use the top of there coaches? All
> that extra weight up there must cause some extra imbalance to the
> coach and what about those low freeway overpasses? I Think it would
> be just easier to use what space you have on board and forget the
> roof. I also wonder how people have had a close call with trying
to
> stow away extra junk and had a close call with falling over the
side?
> Maybe that's why that goats ralling is up there?
>
> Jon
>

[Howard O. Truitt]

Kurt,
Check at some of the boating supply stores they have small cranes for lifting
small boats and dingy's aboard larger boats. Camping World may have them.
Howard T., Sowega, 86 PT40

----- Original Message -----
From: bumpersbird
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 2:35 PM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Spare Tire Crane?


Does anybody out there know anything about roof mounted cranes for a
spare tire? I've heard of them but never seen one. My last trip to
Texas I lost a tag tire to a balloned side wall. Caught it in time. But
it did pop the next morning. So I've decided that a spare is in order.
Any help would be great.

Kurt Horvath
95 PT-42
10ACe






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[bumpersbird]

Well I am overwhelmed by the response from my last post.
I'd like to address some of the responses. I think launching a tire
off the roof, I could see me doing that in my younger days, but it is
a little reckless to say the least, not to mention the fact that
there is never a Mexican around when you need one, kind of like cops.
I think that aerodynamically a tire on the roof would .well, what
the H there's nothing aerodynamic about a Bird. Put enough power
behind anything and you can make it fly. Lowering with a rope tied
around my hips ala rock climber style, I don't think the old
artificial hip is up to that. In the wilds of East Texas there were
no tires in 12 X 22.5 to be had any where. I had to limp up 59 to I-
30 from I-20 90 miles with a ballooned sidewall and a trailer on
three wheels PRICELESS. I have the FMCA Platinum roadside assistance
thru Coach-Net so changing the tire is their problem, but you have to
have a tire mounted on a rim. I've had several vices for nearly all
my life and they are already budgeted into my lifestyle so cutting
one of them out is clearly not likely to happen. I agree that the
less time spent on the roof is a good plan but there is no other
place to place a spare. I have a brand new Goodyear on a brush
aluminum rim. It was a mere $1039.69 I don't plan on ever getting
whipped like that again. It will make a great spare for the next five
years. Just as soon as Michelin starts making my tires again I'll
replace the Goodyear and the brushed aluminum rim. I'm also
considering two complete Dexter axles for the trailer. Try and find
one anywhere that will fit your application and I'll kiss your, you
know what at the next RATS. I've lost a hub every year for the last
five years, not to mention the 12 Goodyear Marathon tires since 1995.
My trailer was stuck in Texarkana for three weeks and four days with
all my tools in it. Dexter builds axels on order only and the fact
that no two trailer companies use the same specs. This means no
income for that time. Like being on strike, you never make up for
that loss. Two Dexter axles, the spare and rim, a crane $2500.00, I
lost that the first week home without my rig! So thanks for all the
great advice and I'll be touch with the folks with cranes shortly.

Kurt Horvath
95 PT-42
Indulgance
10AC

[Hugh Turner]

Kurt
My PO did not carry a spare either my blow out only cost me $800.00 $495 for a
Firestone 12R22.5 $295 for mounting on my wheel. Gouging the face of my wheel
pricelless. The road call itself paid for thru Progressive Roadside. When I put
the new tires on the next day bought 9 and a reconditioned steel wheel. My spare
sits in my Lt front baggage bay. I respect everyone's opinion on this subject
but I will always carry a spare.


Hugh & Lexie Turner
84 Pt40 "OUR DREAM"
Thomaston GA


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