Water in fuel

[pattypape]

Hi,Don,

I think our dash is similar...???

The water in fuel sensor is on the main fuel tank, If you short the
wires together, the water in fuel (tank) light will illuminate, The
other sensor is the low fuel light again short together to see this
dash light-up, The overhead dash light is the water in Racor
filter audio alarm and the tiny red light.
I suspect a corroded wire terminal, the road dirt build-up and
moisture on these wire contacts can turn on these lights.

It time you head South.

Bill 88 FC Michigan

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> ??? Just changed both filters & drained the drains with no water in
fuel. I took it for?a short drive &? the water in fuel light on the
center dash came on. It went on?& off for a while. When I got home I
checked the sending?unit on the main tank. The wire felt loose like
it was bad?in the unit. It is a push on. Does anyone know if this is
the unit that is wired to? the center dash on is the?buzzer?on the
bulkhead wired to it? Can this unit be removed without out draining
the tank. I don't think there is any water in the tank? I do use a
water?treatment?in my fuel??
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[erniecarpet@...]

Don, could you solder a new wire onto that connector?

Ernie Ekberg
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[dspithaler@...]

Hi Ralph


?? I narrowed it down to a bad wire on the sensor on the tank. It is a bad
connector on the sender. I'll probably have to?have a?low fuel tank to fix it.
????







Don Spithaler


89 SP 36'


Butler, PA


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From: Ralph L. Fullenwider

To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 1:17 pm

Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] water in fuel













Hi Don:



Do you have the water in fuel sensor in your Racor filter housing? There

will be 4 wires on the clear bowl, 2 wires are pre heat, the other 2 are

water in fuel. Just a thought.



Safe travels,



Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider

84FC35 "Ruff Diamond"

Duncan, Oklahoma



At 01:08 PM 1/10/2008 -0500, you wrote:

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>?Hi Guys

>

>

>??? Just changed both filters & drained the drains with no water in fuel.

>I took it for?a short drive &? the water in fuel light on the center dash

>came on. It went on?& off for a while. When I got home I checked the

>sending?unit on the main tank. The wire felt loose like it was bad?in the

>unit. It is a push on. Does anyone know if this is the unit that is wired

>to? the center dash on is the?buzzer?on the bulkhead wired to it? Can this

>unit be removed without out draining the tank. I don't think there is any

>water in the tank? I do use a water?treatment?in my fuel??

>

>

>Thanks Don

>

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>89 SP 36'

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>Butler, PA

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[pattypape]

Hi Ernie, Ralph, All,

Have anyone changed these sensors on the fuel tank???
Seems like this could be a real diesel bath.


It also seems that the only real test to check these sensors is to
dump a couple gallon of water in the tank an see if the alarm lights.
Then try to run the fuel down until the low fuel light glows.
This is really asking for trouble.
Or I maybe I just have too much extra time tonight and should just
watch some TV.

Bill 88 FC Michigan


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> Don, could you solder a new wire onto that connector?
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> Ernie Ekberg
> 83PT40
> Weatherford, Tx
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[Donald Watson]

Bill,

What you been drinking? :-)

It was bad enough that you suggested pouring water in your tank, but then
"try to run the fuel down until the low fuel light glows"? Actually you
could put water in your tank (providing that there is a drain in the lowest
part of the tank to easily remove it) if you were that serious about testing
a water sensor in your tank, but isn't the sensor in your primary fuel
filter? (Pardon me, but I'm not familiar with the '88 FC fuel system.) You
could always introduce water into your fuel filter WITHOUT starting the
engine to check a water sensor, but then you'd have to prime the system to
get rid of air once you had purged the filter of water.

Draining fuel from the bottom of the tank isn't a bad idea. It does give
you a chance to clean out some water and sludge, but the task would be
easier if your tank was relatively low. There's quite a bit of head
pressure with a lot of fuel.

Have a good evening and enjoy the TV.

Donn
76 FC33
South Kingstown, RI


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Hi Ernie, Ralph, All,

Have anyone changed these sensors on the fuel tank???
Seems like this could be a real diesel bath.

It also seems that the only real test to check these sensors is to
dump a couple gallon of water in the tank an see if the alarm lights.
Then try to run the fuel down until the low fuel light glows.
This is really asking for trouble.
Or I maybe I just have too much extra time tonight and should just
watch some TV.

Bill 88 FC Michigan

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> Don, could you solder a new wire onto that connector?
>
> Ernie Ekberg
> 83PT40
> Weatherford, Tx
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[Gregory OConnor]

I never considered checking the sender in my tank because the amount
of water that is needed in the footprint of the tank would be major
if it was to hit and glow the warning. The fuel pickup most likely
is far enough off the bottom that 'at rest' water settling to the
bottom would not load up the filter on a startup. Once on the road
water gets sloshed up in the fuel feed, the filter water seperator
would show signs quick. the volumn of water necessary to glow a
warning light in the filter is way less that the volumn necessary
in the tank.

Given the posted reliability of the light ;A non illuminated water
in tank light is just as unsetteling as a false reading water in
tank glow. The only way to know if the light is working is to open
up the tank. I often thought of hooking the water in filter sender
to the dash water in tank indicator because if there is water in the
filter there is/was water in the tank.

GregoryO'Connor
94ptRomolandCa



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> ?Hi Guys
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> ??? Just changed both filters & drained the drains with no water
in fuel. I took it for?a short drive &? the water in fuel light on
the center dash came on. It went on?& off for a while. When I got
home I checked the sending?unit on the main tank. The wire felt
loose like it was bad?in the unit. It is a push on. Does anyone know
if this is the unit that is wired to? the center dash on is the?
buzzer?on the bulkhead wired to it? Can this unit be removed without
out draining the tank. I don't think there is any water in the tank?
I do use a water?treatment?in my fuel??
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>
> Thanks Don
>
>
> 89 SP 36'
>
>
> Butler, PA
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Greg??


??? I think that is right. For now I think I will just disconnect that sender
unit.


?







Don Spithaler


89 SP 36'


Butler, PA





---- Original Message ----

From: Gregory OConnor

To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 9:08 pm

Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: water in fuel













I never considered checking the sender in my tank because the amount

of water that is needed in the footprint of the tank would be major

if it was to hit and glow the warning. The fuel pickup most likely

is far enough off the bottom that 'at rest' water settling to the

bottom would not load up the filter on a startup. Once on the road

water gets sloshed up in the fuel feed, the filter water seperator

would show signs quick. the volumn of water necessary to glow a

warning light in the filter is way less that the volumn necessary

in the tank.



Given the posted reliability of the light ;A non illuminated water

in tank light is just as unsetteling as a false reading water in

tank glow. The only way to know if the light is working is to open

up the tank. I often thought of hooking the water in filter sender

to the dash water in tank indicator because if there is water in the

filter there is/was water in the tank.



GregoryO'Connor

94ptRomolandCa



--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, dspithaler@... wrote:

>

> ?

>

>

> ?Hi Guys

>

>

> ??? Just changed both filters & drained the drains with no water

in fuel. I took it for?a short drive &? the water in fuel light on

the center dash came on. It went on?& off for a while. When I got

home I checked the sending?unit on the main tank. The wire felt

loose like it was bad?in the unit. It is a push on. Does anyone know

if this is the unit that is wired to? the center dash on is the?

buzzer?on the bulkhead wired to it? Can this unit be removed without

out draining the tank. I don't think there is any water in the tank?

I do use a water?treatment?in my fuel??

>

>

> Thanks Don

>

>

> 89 SP 36'

>

>

> Butler, PA

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Ernie??


?? I'll take a look at it later?it isn't very nice here right & we want to get
out of here tomorrow. It just made me a little nervuse when the light came on.?
Have a safe trip north




Don Spithaler





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Don, could you solder a new wire onto that connector?



Ernie Ekberg

83PT40

Weatherford, Tx



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[erniecarpet@...]

Bill, my gauge will stay around 1/2 for a couple days, then begin to drop. I
gauge my fuel consumption by mileage- I get 5mpg. I don't want to run my tank
too low. There is no priming handle on my Detroit.

Ernie Ekberg
83PT40
Weatherford, Tx




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[sfedeli3]

Hi Don,

Have you ever drained some fuel from the bottom of the main tank?
Each time that I do an oil change, I drain around a gallon of fuel
from the tank (near the sending unit) and find rust, water and sludge
in the bottom of the bucket when I'm done. After everything settles
out, I re-use the good fuel in the bucket. It is messy. As for
changing the sending unit, some fuel will splash out when you remove
the sender- just have the new one ready to go and put your finger over
the hole or insert a 1/4" npt plug until you get the new one. I
removed and replaced mine last summer. If you need part ##'s, let me
know- they are available on line. And yes, the less fuel that is in
the tank, the lower the pressure when you remove the sending unit.

Shane Fedeli
85PT40
Hershey, PA

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>
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> ?Hi Guys
>
>
> ??? Just changed both filters & drained the drains with no water in
fuel. I took it for?a short drive &? the water in fuel light on the
center dash came on. It went on?& off for a while. When I got home I
checked the sending?unit on the main tank. The wire felt loose like it
was bad?in the unit. It is a push on. Does anyone know if this is the
unit that is wired to? the center dash on is the?buzzer?on the
bulkhead wired to it? Can this unit be removed without out draining
the tank. I don't think there is any water in the tank? I do use a
water?treatment?in my fuel??
>
>
> Thanks Don
>
>
> 89 SP 36'
>
>
> Butler, PA
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