This is probably a dumb question....

[bubblerboy64]

VIP is a great company to deal with. I love the wheel and it was a
big improvement in the appearance of the interior of my coach. As to
the difference in steering if a guy would loose his power steering I
agree an smaller wheel would have a disadvantage with respect to
leverage but the big ole wheel pinned me back in the seat and I am
not so certain that I couldn't apply more force to the new wheel
which allows me to sit in a more natural position. Hope I never have
to experience a failure to find out.

John Heckman
central Pa
1973 FC
>
> Hi Scott:
>
> Many changed the old 22 inch wheel for an 18 or 20 inch VIP wheel
and ended
> that problem. There should be a link in the links or file section
for it.
> There are patterns made for the Birds. look for the bb then part
numbers.
> Nice wheels too. These were used in the later Birds like the M380
and LX/LXI's
>
> Safe travels,
>
> Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider
> 84FC35 "Ruff Diamond"
> Duncan, Oklahoma
>
> At 02:10 AM 1/15/2008 +0000, you wrote:
> >...but have any of you mid-80's PT owners figured out a good way
to see
> >the oil pressure and water temp gauges? On my coach, these two
gauges-
> >the two most importnt to me-are obscured by the steering wheel.
Am I
> >missing a secret?
> >
> >Scott Forman
> >86 PT38
> >Memphis
> >
> >
>

[Gregory OConnor]

If you cant piggyback a gauge and hang a new one someplace more
visible,, It may be a good thing to let it alone and just install a
sender and new gauge package. I wouldnt mind having a confirming
backup set on those two variables. The analog temp gauges offer
poor variable values. It would be cool to find a sender and digital
gauge to give exact temp. and leave the BB analog for looks. Leroy
of NiceVille is up on that stuff

GregoryO'Connor
94ptRomolandCa

m@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Forman" <sforman@...> wrote:
>
> ...but have any of you mid-80's PT owners figured out a good way
to see
> the oil pressure and water temp gauges? On my coach, these two
gauges-
> the two most importnt to me-are obscured by the steering wheel.
Am I
> missing a secret?
>
> Scott Forman
> 86 PT38
> Memphis
>

[Gregory OConnor]

John on the FC powersteering problems there are many threads. It
seems as the first sign of a problem is hot powersteering oil. I
think it gets hot first because the alignment or caster is off then
the hot oil contribute to the demise of the pump and hoses. PS pump
oil temp would be a good value to check with a raytech gun and keep
a record. Wit a recorn of normal temp so you can recognize a
problem before it leaves you stranded.

GregoryO'Connor
94ptRomolandCa


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "bubblerboy64"
wrote:
>
> VIP is a great company to deal with. I love the wheel and it was
a
> big improvement in the appearance of the interior of my coach. As
to
> the difference in steering if a guy would loose his power steering
I
> agree an smaller wheel would have a disadvantage with respect to
> leverage but the big ole wheel pinned me back in the seat and I am
> not so certain that I couldn't apply more force to the new wheel
> which allows me to sit in a more natural position. Hope I never
have
> to experience a failure to find out.
>
> John Heckman
> central Pa
> 1973 FC
> >
> > Hi Scott:
> >
> > Many changed the old 22 inch wheel for an 18 or 20 inch VIP
wheel
> and ended
> > that problem. There should be a link in the links or file
section
> for it.
> > There are patterns made for the Birds. look for the bb then part
> numbers.
> > Nice wheels too. These were used in the later Birds like the
M380
> and LX/LXI's
> >
> > Safe travels,
> >
> > Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider
> > 84FC35 "Ruff Diamond"
> > Duncan, Oklahoma
> >
> > At 02:10 AM 1/15/2008 +0000, you wrote:
> > >...but have any of you mid-80's PT owners figured out a good
way
> to see
> > >the oil pressure and water temp gauges? On my coach, these two
> gauges-
> > >the two most importnt to me-are obscured by the steering
wheel.
> Am I
> > >missing a secret?
> > >
> > >Scott Forman
> > >86 PT38
> > >Memphis
> > >
> > >
> >
>

[Gregory OConnor]

dumb is one not asked. However, The subject heading is.

GregoryO'Connor
94ptRomolandCa
full of dumb answers

[Don Bradner]

I read digital better than I do analog, and a whole lot better than a temp gauge
that only has 160/190/220 in the operational range!

Those of us with VMSpc (unfortunately only available for DDEC II and later) can
see the digital values.

Don Bradner
90 PT40 "Blue Thunder"
Posting today by satellite from Quartzsite

On 1/16/2008 at 2:06 AM Gregory OConnor wrote:

>If you cant piggyback a gauge and hang a new one someplace more
>visible,, It may be a good thing to let it alone and just install a
>sender and new gauge package. I wouldnt mind having a confirming
>backup set on those two variables. The analog temp gauges offer
>poor variable values. It would be cool to find a sender and digital
>gauge to give exact temp. and leave the BB analog for looks. Leroy
>of NiceVille is up on that stuff
>
>GregoryO'Connor
>94ptRomolandCa
>
>m@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Forman" <sforman@...> wrote:
>>
>> ...but have any of you mid-80's PT owners figured out a good way
>to see
>> the oil pressure and water temp gauges? On my coach, these two
>gauges-
>> the two most importnt to me-are obscured by the steering wheel.
>Am I
>> missing a secret?
>>
>> Scott Forman
>> 86 PT38
>> Memphis

[Gardner Yeaw]

Just an FYI. My power steering failure was the pulley. The hub
disintegrated leaving the three spokes spinning around the pump
shaft. I had to replace the pump due to the damage to the shaft.

I had taken temperature measurments a few weeks earlier during a
long trip and they were not excessive.

Gardner
78FC33


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Gregory OConnor"
wrote:
>
> John on the FC powersteering problems there are many threads. It
> seems as the first sign of a problem is hot powersteering oil. I
> think it gets hot first because the alignment or caster is off
then
> the hot oil contribute to the demise of the pump and hoses. PS
pump
> oil temp would be a good value to check with a raytech gun and
keep
> a record. Wit a recorn of normal temp so you can recognize a
> problem before it leaves you stranded.
>
> GregoryO'Connor
> 94ptRomolandCa
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "bubblerboy64"
> wrote:
> >
> > VIP is a great company to deal with. I love the wheel and it
was
> a
> > big improvement in the appearance of the interior of my coach.
As
> to
> > the difference in steering if a guy would loose his power
steering
> I
> > agree an smaller wheel would have a disadvantage with respect to
> > leverage but the big ole wheel pinned me back in the seat and I
am
> > not so certain that I couldn't apply more force to the new wheel
> > which allows me to sit in a more natural position. Hope I never
> have
> > to experience a failure to find out.
> >
> > John Heckman
> > central Pa
> > 1973 FC
> > >
> > > Hi Scott:
> > >
> > > Many changed the old 22 inch wheel for an 18 or 20 inch VIP
> wheel
> > and ended
> > > that problem. There should be a link in the links or file
> section
> > for it.
> > > There are patterns made for the Birds. look for the bb then
part
> > numbers.
> > > Nice wheels too. These were used in the later Birds like the
> M380
> > and LX/LXI's
> > >
> > > Safe travels,
> > >
> > > Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider
> > > 84FC35 "Ruff Diamond"
> > > Duncan, Oklahoma
> > >
> > > At 02:10 AM 1/15/2008 +0000, you wrote:
> > > >...but have any of you mid-80's PT owners figured out a good
> way
> > to see
> > > >the oil pressure and water temp gauges? On my coach, these
two
> > gauges-
> > > >the two most importnt to me-are obscured by the steering
> wheel.
> > Am I
> > > >missing a secret?
> > > >
> > > >Scott Forman
> > > >86 PT38
> > > >Memphis
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[amweath]

That occurred to me abour 5 minutes after I sent that reply.


Art Weatherly
Riverside Ca
'85 PT36


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Forman" <sforman@...>
wrote:
>
> True, but then the EL names printed on the dash face wouldn't match
> the gauges
>
> Scott
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "bloomas"
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Scott Forman
> > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 7:00 AM
> > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: This is probably a dumb
> question....
> >
> >
> > A person could relocate them by swapping them around
> > bOB lOOMAS 1985 pt 36
> >
> >
> > Mine are on the top row of the upper dash. I guess they figured
> it
> > out by 87. The steering wheel obscures them completely and I
have
> to
> > duck my eyes under the wheel to see them.
> >
> > Scott
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Curt Sprenger"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Scott,
> > >
> > > On our 87 PT38 those gauges are located in the upper portion
of
> the
> > lower
> > > dash. Easy to read with the steering wheel in the lower tilt
> > positions. Am I
> > > missing something?
> > >
> > > On Jan 14, 2008 6:10 PM, Scott Forman <sforman@> wrote:
> > >
> > > > ...but have any of you mid-80's PT owners figured out a
good
> > way to see
> > > > the oil pressure and water temp gauges? On my coach, these
> two
> > gauges-
> > > > the two most importnt to me-are obscured by the steering
> wheel.
> > Am I
> > > > missing a secret?
> > > >
> > > > Scott Forman
> > > > 86 PT38
> > > > Memphis
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Curt Sprenger
> > > 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> > > Anaheim Hills, CA
> > >
> >
>