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01-18-2008, 04:29
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Bill, From the picture, it looks like the prototype may have a C13 Cat (525 horse) The alternators appear like 160 amp at 24V similar to 2006. The bottom alternator appears somewhat different- pulley may be smaller, but pic is low resolution. Ross MacKillop 2006 450LXi Casa Grande Quartzite in a week ----- Original Message ----
From: pattypape To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 5:28:13 AM Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: New Bird Ralph, I did see two hefty alternators, atleast a 200+amp and a 400+ amp for the all electric coach. Bill 88 FC with a 160 amp alternator --- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", "Ralph L. Fullenwider" > > I was doing some Factory warranty work when I was out on the road and that > was on a M 380. While repairing a broken ground and replacing a pneumatic > valve that was defective. A couple drove by and stopped and said " That is > a beautiful Motor Home! What is it?" It was explained that it was a > Bluebird Wanderlodge then the couple said, "we thought so but was not sure, > don't the Wanderlodge' s have a railing on top?" > > Well, it is nice to see that someone finally took note of the Signature > trait of the Bluebird Wanderlodge and re installed a resemblance of the age > old tradition of the "goat rail" on top of this new addition to the > Wanderlodge line. There will be no problem telling a Bird going down the > road now or espying one from the road when parked in an RV park. > > Well done to the crew at CCW Bluebird Wanderlodge division. Please don't > forget to include a set of schematics with each Coach. I am looking forward > to seeing how you integrated the multiplexing and divided it among the > separate systems in the Coach and sort of break out panels were used. Sure > would be nice from a diagnostician' s point of view to have a touch screen > diagnostic program built in that would at least localize any given problem, > then isolate the problem to an area. Ah but that would be dreaming of > course? To have a 3 hour diagnostic problem taken down to a 30 or 45 minute > in and out and the customer is down the road instead of being admired by > passersby on the side of it. > > It will also be nice to compile a lit of the high hitters of down time so > the customer can plan for that at some future time and have the knowledge > needed to be able to prioritize the preventative maint schedule to minimize > the down time, and we as owners are familiar with down time but as a united > group is gaining the knowledge to do just that with the older units. > > Again, kudos to the design team, the interior team, the maintenance team > and most of all the team on the floor putting all the parts together and > with the age old pride that is expected from the finest in the world. You > truly are World Class!! > > > > > Safe travels, > > Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider > 84FC35 "Ruff Diamond" > Duncan, Oklahoma > Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail |
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01-18-2008, 05:10
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Ross, is correct 200 amp 24 volts and the engineer told me the other
is 400 amp. Spec sheet says, Cummins ISX600HP Allison MH 4000 6 Speed, Gross 53,000# Bill 88 FC --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Ross MacKillop > > Bill, > From the picture, it looks like the prototype may have a C13 Cat (525 horse) The alternators appear like 160 amp at 24V similar to 2006. The bottom alternator appears somewhat different- pulley may be smaller, but pic is low resolution. > Ross MacKillop > 2006 450LXi > Casa Grande > Quartzite in a week > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: pattypape > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 5:28:13 AM > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: New Bird > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ralph, > > > > I did see two hefty alternators, atleast a 200+amp and a 400+ amp > > for the all electric coach. > > > > Bill 88 FC with a 160 amp alternator > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, "Ralph L. Fullenwider" > > > > > > > > I was doing some Factory warranty work when I was out on the road > > and that > > > was on a M 380. While repairing a broken ground and replacing a > > pneumatic > > > valve that was defective. A couple drove by and stopped and said " > > That is > > > a beautiful Motor Home! What is it?" It was explained that it was a > > > Bluebird Wanderlodge then the couple said, "we thought so but was > > not sure, > > > don't the Wanderlodge' s have a railing on top?" > > > > > > Well, it is nice to see that someone finally took note of the > > Signature > > > trait of the Bluebird Wanderlodge and re installed a resemblance of > > the age > > > old tradition of the "goat rail" on top of this new addition to the > > > Wanderlodge line. There will be no problem telling a Bird going > > down the > > > road now or espying one from the road when parked in an RV park. > > > > > > Well done to the crew at CCW Bluebird Wanderlodge division. Please > > don't > > > forget to include a set of schematics with each Coach. I am looking > > forward > > > to seeing how you integrated the multiplexing and divided it among > > the > > > separate systems in the Coach and sort of break out panels were > > used. Sure > > > would be nice from a diagnostician' s point of view to have a touch > > screen > > > diagnostic program built in that would at least localize any given > > problem, > > > then isolate the problem to an area. Ah but that would be dreaming > > of > > > course? To have a 3 hour diagnostic problem taken down to a 30 or > > 45 minute > > > in and out and the customer is down the road instead of being > > admired by > > > passersby on the side of it. > > > > > > It will also be nice to compile a lit of the high hitters of down > > time so > > > the customer can plan for that at some future time and have the > > knowledge > > > needed to be able to prioritize the preventative maint schedule to > > minimize > > > the down time, and we as owners are familiar with down time but as > > a united > > > group is gaining the knowledge to do just that with the older units. > > > > > > Again, kudos to the design team, the interior team, the maintenance > > team > > > and most of all the team on the floor putting all the parts > > together and > > > with the age old pride that is expected from the finest in the > > world. You > > > truly are World Class!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > Safe travels, > > > > > > Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider > > > 84FC35 "Ruff Diamond" > > > Duncan, Oklahoma > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <!-- > > #ygrp-mkp{ > border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:14px 0px;padding:0px 14px;} > #ygrp-mkp hr{ > border:1px solid #d8d8d8;} > #ygrp-mkp #hd{ > color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:bold;line- height:122%;margin:10px 0px;} > #ygrp-mkp #ads{ > margin-bottom:10px;} > #ygrp-mkp .ad{ > padding:0 0;} > #ygrp-mkp .ad a{ > color:#0000ff;text-decoration:none;} > --> > > > > <!-- > > #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc{ > font-family:Arial;} > #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc #hd{ > margin:10px 0px;font-weight:bold;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;} > #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc .ad{ > margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;} > --> > > > > <!-- > > #ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px;font-family:arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} > #ygrp-mlmsg table {font-size:inherit;font:100%;} > #ygrp-mlmsg select, input, textarea {font:99% arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} > #ygrp-mlmsg pre, code {font:115% monospace;} > #ygrp-mlmsg * {line-height:1.22em;} > #ygrp-text{ > font-family:Georgia; > } > #ygrp-text p{ > margin:0 0 1em 0;} > #ygrp-tpmsgs{ > font-family:Arial; > clear:both;} > #ygrp-vitnav{ > padding-top:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-size:77%;margin:0;} > #ygrp-vitnav a{ > padding:0 1px;} > #ygrp-actbar{ > clear:both;margin:25px 0;white-space:nowrap;color:#666;text- align:right;} > #ygrp-actbar .left{ > float:left;white-space:nowrap;} > .bld{font-weight:bold;} > #ygrp-grft{ > font-family:Verdana;font-size:77%;padding:15px 0;} > #ygrp-ft{ > font-family:verdana;font-size:77%;border-top:1px solid #666; > padding:5px 0; > } > #ygrp-mlmsg #logo{ > padding-bottom:10px;} > > #ygrp-vital{ > background-color:#e0ecee;margin-bottom:20px;padding:2px 0 8px 8px;} > #ygrp-vital #vithd{ > font-size:77%;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:bold;color:#333;text- transform:uppercase;} > #ygrp-vital ul{ > padding:0;margin:2px 0;} > #ygrp-vital ul li{ > list-style-type:none;clear:both;border:1px solid #e0ecee; > } > #ygrp-vital ul li .ct{ > font-weight:bold;color:#ff7900;float:right;width:2em;text- align:right;padding-right:.5em;} > #ygrp-vital ul li .cat{ > font-weight:bold;} > #ygrp-vital a{ > text-decoration:none;} > > #ygrp-vital a:hover{ > text-decoration:underline;} > > #ygrp-sponsor #hd{ > color:#999;font-size:77%;} > #ygrp-sponsor #ov{ > padding:6px 13px;background-color:#e0ecee;margin-bottom:20px;} > #ygrp-sponsor #ov ul{ > padding:0 0 0 8px;margin:0;} > #ygrp-sponsor #ov li{ > list-style-type:square;padding:6px 0;font-size:77%;} > #ygrp-sponsor #ov li a{ > text-decoration:none;font-size:130%;} > #ygrp-sponsor #nc{ > background-color:#eee;margin-bottom:20px;padding:0 8px;} > #ygrp-sponsor .ad{ > padding:8px 0;} > #ygrp-sponsor .ad #hd1{ > font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold;color:#628c2a;font- size:100%;line-height:122%;} > #ygrp-sponsor .ad a{ > text-decoration:none;} > #ygrp-sponsor .ad a:hover{ > text-decoration:underline;} > #ygrp-sponsor .ad p{ > margin:0;} > o{font-size:0;} > .MsoNormal{ > margin:0 0 0 0;} > #ygrp-text tt{ > font-size:120%;} > blockquote{margin:0 0 0 4px;} > .replbq{margin:4;} > --> > > > > > > > > > Be smarter than spam. 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01-18-2008, 05:30
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I think the new Cummins are red. Ross ----- Original Message ----
From: pattypape To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 10:10:50 AM Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: New Bird Ross, is correct 200 amp 24 volts and the engineer told me the other is 400 amp. Spec sheet says, Cummins ISX600HP Allison MH 4000 6 Speed, Gross 53,000# Bill 88 FC --- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", Ross MacKillop > > Bill, > From the picture, it looks like the prototype may have a C13 Cat (525 horse) The alternators appear like 160 amp at 24V similar to 2006. The bottom alternator appears somewhat different- pulley may be smaller, but pic is low resolution. > Ross MacKillop > 2006 450LXi > Casa Grande > Quartzite in a week > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: pattypape > To: "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com" > Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 5:28:13 AM > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: New Bird > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ralph, > > > > I did see two hefty alternators, atleast a 200+amp and a 400+ amp > > for the all electric coach. > > > > Bill 88 FC with a 160 amp alternator > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, "Ralph L. Fullenwider" > > > > > > > > I was doing some Factory warranty work when I was out on the road > > and that > > > was on a M 380. While repairing a broken ground and replacing a > > pneumatic > > > valve that was defective. A couple drove by and stopped and said " > > That is > > > a beautiful Motor Home! What is it?" It was explained that it was a > > > Bluebird Wanderlodge then the couple said, "we thought so but was > > not sure, > > > don't the Wanderlodge' s have a railing on top?" > > > > > > Well, it is nice to see that someone finally took note of the > > Signature > > > trait of the Bluebird Wanderlodge and re installed a resemblance of > > the age > > > old tradition of the "goat rail" on top of this new addition to the > > > Wanderlodge line. There will be no problem telling a Bird going > > down the > > > road now or espying one from the road when parked in an RV park. > > > > > > Well done to the crew at CCW Bluebird Wanderlodge division. Please > > don't > > > forget to include a set of schematics with each Coach. I am looking > > forward > > > to seeing how you integrated the multiplexing and divided it among > > the > > > separate systems in the Coach and sort of break out panels were > > used. Sure > > > would be nice from a diagnostician' s point of view to have a touch > > screen > > > diagnostic program built in that would at least localize any given > > problem, > > > then isolate the problem to an area. Ah but that would be dreaming > > of > > > course? To have a 3 hour diagnostic problem taken down to a 30 or > > 45 minute > > > in and out and the customer is down the road instead of being > > admired by > > > passersby on the side of it. > > > > > > It will also be nice to compile a lit of the high hitters of down > > time so > > > the customer can plan for that at some future time and have the > > knowledge > > > needed to be able to prioritize the preventative maint schedule to > > minimize > > > the down time, and we as owners are familiar with down time but as > > a united > > > group is gaining the knowledge to do just that with the older units. > > > > > > Again, kudos to the design team, the interior team, the maintenance > > team > > > and most of all the team on the floor putting all the parts > > together and > > > with the age old pride that is expected from the finest in the > > world. You > > > truly are World Class!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > Safe travels, > > > > > > Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider > > > 84FC35 "Ruff Diamond" > > > Duncan, Oklahoma > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <!-- > > #ygrp-mkp{ > border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font- family:Arial; margin:14px 0px;padding: 0px 14px;} > #ygrp-mkp hr{ > border:1px solid #d8d8d8;} > #ygrp-mkp #hd{ > color:#628c2a; font-size: 85%;font- weight:bold; line- height:122%; margin:10px 0px;} > #ygrp-mkp #ads{ > margin-bottom: 10px;} > #ygrp-mkp .ad{ > padding:0 0;} > #ygrp-mkp .ad a{ > color:#0000ff; text-decoration: none;} > --> > > > > <!-- > > #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc{ > font-family: Arial;} > #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc #hd{ > margin:10px 0px;font-weight: bold;font- size:78%; line-height: 122%;} > #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc .ad{ > margin-bottom: 10px;padding: 0 0;} > --> > > > > <!-- > > #ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px; font-family: arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} > #ygrp-mlmsg table {font-size:inherit; font:100% ;} > #ygrp-mlmsg select, input, textarea {font:99% arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} > #ygrp-mlmsg pre, code {font:115% monospace;} > #ygrp-mlmsg * {line-height: 1.22em;} > #ygrp-text{ > font-family: Georgia; > } > #ygrp-text p{ > margin:0 0 1em 0;} > #ygrp-tpmsgs{ > font-family: Arial; > clear:both;} > #ygrp-vitnav{ > padding-top: 10px;font- family:Verdana; font-size: 77%;margin: 0;} > #ygrp-vitnav a{ > padding:0 1px;} > #ygrp-actbar{ > clear:both;margin: 25px 0;white-space: nowrap;color: #666;text- align:right; } > #ygrp-actbar .left{ > float:left;white- space:nowrap; } > .bld{font-weight: bold;} > #ygrp-grft{ > font-family: Verdana;font- size:77%; padding:15px 0;} > #ygrp-ft{ > font-family: verdana;font- size:77%; border-top: 1px solid #666; > padding:5px 0; > } > #ygrp-mlmsg #logo{ > padding-bottom: 10px;} > > #ygrp-vital{ > background-color: #e0ecee;margin- bottom:20px; padding:2px 0 8px 8px;} > #ygrp-vital #vithd{ > font-size:77% ;font-family: Verdana;font- weight:bold; color:#333; text- transform:uppercase ;} > #ygrp-vital ul{ > padding:0;margin: 2px 0;} > #ygrp-vital ul li{ > list-style-type: none;clear: both;border: 1px solid #e0ecee; > } > #ygrp-vital ul li .ct{ > font-weight: bold;color: #ff7900;float: right;width: 2em;text- align:right; padding-right: .5em;} > #ygrp-vital ul li .cat{ > font-weight: bold;} > #ygrp-vital a{ > text-decoration: none;} > > #ygrp-vital a:hover{ > text-decoration: underline; } > > #ygrp-sponsor #hd{ > color:#999;font- size:77%; } > #ygrp-sponsor #ov{ > padding:6px 13px;background- color:#e0ecee; margin-bottom: 20px;} > #ygrp-sponsor #ov ul{ > padding:0 0 0 8px;margin:0; } > #ygrp-sponsor #ov li{ > list-style-type: square;padding: 6px 0;font-size: 77%;} > #ygrp-sponsor #ov li a{ > text-decoration: none;font- size:130% ;} > #ygrp-sponsor #nc{ > background-color: #eee;margin- bottom:20px; padding:0 8px;} > #ygrp-sponsor .ad{ > padding:8px 0;} > #ygrp-sponsor .ad #hd1{ > font-family: Arial;font- weight:bold; color:#628c2a; font- size:100%;line- height:122% ;} > #ygrp-sponsor .ad a{ > text-decoration: none;} > #ygrp-sponsor .ad a:hover{ > text-decoration: underline; } > #ygrp-sponsor .ad p{ > margin:0;} > o{font-size: 0;} > .MsoNormal{ > margin:0 0 0 0;} > #ygrp-text tt{ > font-size:120% ;} > blockquote{margin: 0 0 0 4px;} > .replbq{margin: 4;} > --> > > > > > > > > > Be smarter than spam. 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01-18-2008, 05:36
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Photo of a newly introduced Cummins engine in the FMCA magazine was painted red. The yellow paint on the engine in the new bird looks like "Cat yellow"... but, of course, the engine could be painted any color either by request of CCW or in the Coachworks shop.Â
I note that the DD Series 60 in my coach is light green.
Pete Masterson '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42 El Sobrante CA "aeonix1@mac.com" On Jan 18, 2008, at 9:30 AM, Ross MacKillop wrote:
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01-18-2008, 05:57
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01-18-2008, 06:34
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Randy has posted that the engine was a Cat, I assume C-15, but the specs for
production call for ISX. Don Bradner 90 PT40 "Blue Thunder" Posting today by satellite from Yuma, AZ |
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01-18-2008, 17:06
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Correct, Standard Optional Thanks THANKS Macy Macy Neshati www. completecoach.com http://www.thelegacyreturns.com email: macy@... Cell: 951 836 6525 Office: 951 684 9585 Fax: 951 684 2023 1863 Service Court Riverside, CA 92507 |
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01-18-2008, 17:50
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Open How Macy Macy Neshati www. completecoach.com http://www.thelegacyreturns.com email: macy@... Cell: 951 836 6525 Office: 951 684 9585 Fax: 951 684 2023 1863 Service Court Riverside, CA 92507 |
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01-19-2008, 02:44
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Macy,
We will be in So. Cal. in about a month. Are all Wanderlodges made now in Riverside or Fort Valley? Would CCW be a good place to stop, park or tour while we are there? Thanks..and good luck with the new era. Brad Barton 00LXiDFW bbartonwx@...
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