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05-14-2005, 10:44
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Replacement Generator
When i first bought a Wanderlodge I heard about being able to run the Perkins
for extended periods of time. The first time we ran it all night, I was up every 30 minutes checking the gauges. Finally I realized that she would shut down from either overheating, oil pressure low or run out of fuel. Now- she can run and run while I snooze. If it wouldn't leak oil-- thats another story. Ernie 83PT40- coach is 130 miles west of me- wonder how she's doin? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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05-14-2005, 12:41
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Today while removing the Perkins motor to replace the seals on it we
got to thinking, does it pay to even do the job on a generator with more than 5500 hours on it? We wonder if all we will be doing is fixing this thing, and would the money be better spent in the purchase of a new Onan 8000 quiet deisel? Is this a good route to go and is a 8000 big enough, its 240 pounds lighter than a 10,000 or a 12,500 watt Onan. Will it fit in the tray and can it be wired into the coach as it is? Looking for comments & suggestions by those who have made this move. Jeff & Michelle August 1980 FC35RB Plymouth, WI |
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05-14-2005, 13:10
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You are going to get a lot of different answers on this Jeff. In my
opinion the Perkins diesel is superior to almost any other RV generator that you can buy and is far more expensive. You have a commercial quality diesel that was designed to run 24/7 for long periods of time with virtually no maintenance. You might want to consider however changing out the generator part of it for a brushless one. The quiet diesel is only quiet because it comes in a very heavily insulated enclosure. If your diesel is mounted where mine is (just behind the entrance door) you can really quiet it down with Soundown 2# per sq foot lead lined insulation ( http://www.soundown.com) It is doubtful that the engine itself needs much of anything at 5000 hours. Tom 1982 FC35 Vernon Center,NY At 12:41 AM 5/15/2005 +0000, you wrote: >Today while removing the Perkins motor to replace the seals on it we >got to thinking, does it pay to even do the job on a generator with >more than 5500 hours on it? We wonder if all we will be doing is fixing >this thing, and would the money be better spent in the purchase of a >new Onan 8000 quiet deisel? Is this a good route to go and is a 8000 >big enough, its 240 pounds lighter than a 10,000 or a 12,500 watt Onan. >Will it fit in the tray and can it be wired into the coach as it is? >Looking for comments & suggestions by those who have made this move. > >Jeff & Michelle August >1980 FC35RB >Plymouth, WI > > > > >---------- >Yahoo! Groups Links > * To visit your group on the web, go to: > * > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WanderlodgeForum/>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/W\ anderlodgeForum/ > > * > * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > * > odgeForum-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > * > * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the > <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>Yahoo! Terms of Service. |
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05-14-2005, 13:44
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the problems with most generators is that they are not used enough
a good quality generator is is purpose built and there are some notably with a real lister petter engine that have accumulated upwards of 30,000 hours of dependable power. you will pay a premium for this type of power though they are meant to be continuosly run with extended range fuel tanks and also oil pans. Isolated telecommunication sites ar built to be serviced once a month with no other intervention either refueling or service. If you want a great generator set look at lister petter coupled with newage Generator end but be prepared to pay Stephen 77fc35 --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff August" wrote: > Today while removing the Perkins motor to replace the seals on it we > got to thinking, does it pay to even do the job on a generator with > more than 5500 hours on it? We wonder if all we will be doing is fixing > this thing, and would the money be better spent in the purchase of a > new Onan 8000 quiet deisel? Is this a good route to go and is a 8000 > big enough, its 240 pounds lighter than a 10,000 or a 12,500 watt Onan. > Will it fit in the tray and can it be wired into the coach as it is? > Looking for comments & suggestions by those who have made this move. > > Jeff & Michelle August > 1980 FC35RB > Plymouth, WI |
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05-14-2005, 13:58
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Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2005 7:41 PM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Replacement Generator Jeff I had the same problem with my old perkins with the oil seal it turn out that the crank shaft was going to have to be replaced or built back up. I decided to replace the hole generator with a new 12 KW power teck.I personly preferd the power teck with a Kubota engin over the old worn out perkins engin.The power teck has no slip rings or brushes. Bob Loomas 1985 PT 36 Today while removing the Perkins motor to replace the seals on it we got to thinking, does it pay to even do the job on a generator with more than 5500 hours on it? We wonder if all we will be doing is fixing this thing, and would the money be better spent in the purchase of a new Onan 8000 quiet deisel? Is this a good route to go and is a 8000 big enough, its 240 pounds lighter than a 10,000 or a 12,500 watt Onan. Will it fit in the tray and can it be wired into the coach as it is? Looking for comments & suggestions by those who have made this move. Jeff & Michelle August 1980 FC35RB Plymouth, WI -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WanderlodgeForum/ b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: WanderlodgeForum-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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05-14-2005, 14:10
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powertech genny are made in leesburg fl.its one of the best..my choice too!
randydupree93wb ----- Original Message ----- From: bobloomas To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2005 9:58 PM Subject: Fw: [WanderlodgeForum] Replacement Generator Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2005 7:41 PM Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Replacement Generator Jeff I had the same problem with my old perkins with the oil seal it turn out that the crank shaft was going to have to be replaced or built back up. I decided to replace the hole generator with a new 12 KW power teck.I personly preferd the power teck with a Kubota engin over the old worn out perkins engin.The power teck has no slip rings or brushes. Bob Loomas 1985 PT 36 Today while removing the Perkins motor to replace the seals on it we got to thinking, does it pay to even do the job on a generator with more than 5500 hours on it? We wonder if all we will be doing is fixing this thing, and would the money be better spent in the purchase of a new Onan 8000 quiet deisel? Is this a good route to go and is a 8000 big enough, its 240 pounds lighter than a 10,000 or a 12,500 watt Onan. Will it fit in the tray and can it be wired into the coach as it is? Looking for comments & suggestions by those who have made this move. Jeff & Michelle August 1980 FC35RB Plymouth, WI -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WanderlodgeForum/ b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: WanderlodgeForum-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WanderlodgeForum/ b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: WanderlodgeForum-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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05-14-2005, 14:14
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I've got five diesel generators at my place. I bought them in India from
Kirloskar, which is the far easts equivalent of GE. The only thing they don't manufacture is autos. The gensets are two cylinder motors with generators that differ from Stanford Newage only by the name plate. The engines can be started manually with a 2 to 1 geared crank and comes with decompression valves. Side plates on the engines are removable so you can, if needed, replace rod bearings and such....each cylinder has a separate head and everything is as simple as possible. The engines are a close copy of the old Lister but improved. The manual is written in five languages, no European. You get a large chart which shows in cartoon fashion what to do and when. You get a tool kit that allows you to fix anything on the engine and a box of spare parts. They are designed for use in the most miserable climates and conditions imaginable. The instructions are done is such a fashion that an illiterate farmer can repair and maintain his engine. It is truly an amazing thing to see. While at the factory, I watched a 12.5kw genset run at full load. They had a system that changed the oil without stopping the engine. The hour meter was merrily clicking as it passed some 50,000 hours. A friend of mine, a long time diesel mechanic, said they are bullet proof. And they could also be used for a boat anchor... they weigh over 1400 pounds... They are, without a doubt, the strongest, simplest, genset made. Now, I'll tell you about Witte....This is an engine company that makes a diesel engine that is used by 99% of all the oil companies to power pumps in areas without electricity...from the arctic to the Sahara, you find Witte gensets and they ARE expensive. They proudly proclaim that they are American made.....unless you go to India and find all these funny parts being made with the Witte logo on them...... That's enough for now... Blair, who in his travels has picked up most every intestinal bug possible At 06:44 PM 5/14/2005, you wrote: >the problems with most generators is that they are not used enough >a good quality generator is is purpose built and there are some >notably with a real lister petter engine that have accumulated upwards >of 30,000 hours of dependable power. you will pay a premium for this >type of power though they are meant to be continuosly run with >extended range fuel tanks and also oil pans. Isolated >telecommunication sites ar built to be serviced once a month with no >other intervention either refueling or service. >If you want a great generator set look at lister petter coupled with >newage Generator end but be prepared to pay >Stephen 77fc35 > > >--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff August" >wrote: > > Today while removing the Perkins motor to replace the seals on it we > > got to thinking, does it pay to even do the job on a generator with > > more than 5500 hours on it? We wonder if all we will be doing is fixing > > this thing, and would the money be better spent in the purchase of a > > new Onan 8000 quiet deisel? Is this a good route to go and is a 8000 > > big enough, its 240 pounds lighter than a 10,000 or a 12,500 watt Onan. > > Will it fit in the tray and can it be wired into the coach as it is? > > Looking for comments & suggestions by those who have made this move. > > > > Jeff & Michelle August > > 1980 FC35RB > > Plymouth, WI > > > > >---------- >Yahoo! Groups Links > * To visit your group on the web, go to: > * > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WanderlodgeForum/>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/W\ anderlodgeForum/ > > * > * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > * > odgeForum-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > * > * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the > <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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05-14-2005, 14:15
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Perkins are boat anchors. I refuse to own one.
Blair in Oregon At 06:58 PM 5/14/2005, you wrote: >Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2005 7:41 PM >Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Replacement Generator > >Jeff I had the same problem with my old perkins with the oil seal it turn >out that the crank shaft was going to have to be replaced or built back up. >I decided to replace the hole generator with a new 12 KW power teck.I >personly preferd the power teck with a Kubota engin over the old worn out >perkins engin.The power teck has no slip rings or brushes. > Bob Loomas 1985 PT 36 > > > >Today while removing the Perkins motor to replace the seals on it we >got to thinking, does it pay to even do the job on a generator with >more than 5500 hours on it? We wonder if all we will be doing is fixing >this thing, and would the money be better spent in the purchase of a >new Onan 8000 quiet deisel? Is this a good route to go and is a 8000 >big enough, its 240 pounds lighter than a 10,000 or a 12,500 watt Onan. >Will it fit in the tray and can it be wired into the coach as it is? >Looking for comments & suggestions by those who have made this move. > >Jeff & Michelle August >1980 FC35RB >Plymouth, WI > > > > >-------------------------------------------------------------------------------\ - >Yahoo! Groups Links > > a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: > ><http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WanderlodgeForum/>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/\ WanderlodgeForum/ > > b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > WanderlodgeForum-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > >---------- >Yahoo! Groups Links > * To visit your group on the web, go to: > * > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WanderlodgeForum/>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/W\ anderlodgeForum/ > > * > * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > * > odgeForum-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > * > * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the > <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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05-14-2005, 14:23
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Different strokes for different folks. The perkins is a far more expensive
unit then anything you could replace it with and it is more ruggedly built for severe service. I cant for the life of me understand why people think newer is better. Exactly what dont you like about the Perkins that you found in what ever you got that replaced it? Mine has 2400 hours on it and is just broken in. tom 1982 FC35 Vernon Center,NY dAt 07:15 PM 5/14/2005 -0700, you wrote: >Perkins are boat anchors. I refuse to own one. > >Blair in Oregon > > > >At 06:58 PM 5/14/2005, you wrote: > > > >Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2005 7:41 PM > >Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Replacement Generator > > > >Jeff I had the same problem with my old perkins with the oil seal it turn > >out that the crank shaft was going to have to be replaced or built back up. > >I decided to replace the hole generator with a new 12 KW power teck.I > >personly preferd the power teck with a Kubota engin over the old worn out > >perkins engin.The power teck has no slip rings or brushes. > > Bob Loomas 1985 PT 36 > > > > > > > >Today while removing the Perkins motor to replace the seals on it we > >got to thinking, does it pay to even do the job on a generator with > >more than 5500 hours on it? We wonder if all we will be doing is fixing > >this thing, and would the money be better spent in the purchase of a > >new Onan 8000 quiet deisel? Is this a good route to go and is a 8000 > >big enough, its 240 pounds lighter than a 10,000 or a 12,500 watt Onan. > >Will it fit in the tray and can it be wired into the coach as it is? > >Looking for comments & suggestions by those who have made this move. > > > >Jeff & Michelle August > >1980 FC35RB > >Plymouth, WI > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ------- > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: > > > ><<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WanderlodgeForum/>http://groups.yahoo.com > /group/WanderlodgeForum/>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WanderlodgeForum/ > > > > b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > WanderlodgeForum-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > > > > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > >---------- > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > * To visit your group on the web, go to: > > * > > > <<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WanderlodgeForum/>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/\ WanderlodgeForum/>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WanderlodgeForum/ > > > > > * > > * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > * > > > odgeForum-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > > * > > * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the > > > <<http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>Yahoo! > Terms of Service. > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > >---------- >Yahoo! Groups Links > * To visit your group on the web, go to: > * > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WanderlodgeForum/>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/W\ anderlodgeForum/ > > * > * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > * > odgeForum-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > * > * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the > <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>Yahoo! Terms of Service. |
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05-14-2005, 14:27
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So I guess I am too cheap on my 12.5 with 1400 hrs @ $2500. It does crank all
three airs no prob. with the needles deep in the green. Mike Hohnstein Germantown, WI 83FC35 ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Warner To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2005 9:23 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [WanderlodgeForum] Replacement Generator Different strokes for different folks. The perkins is a far more expensive unit then anything you could replace it with and it is more ruggedly built for severe service. I cant for the life of me understand why people think newer is better. Exactly what dont you like about the Perkins that you found in what ever you got that replaced it? Mine has 2400 hours on it and is just broken in. tom 1982 FC35 Vernon Center,NY dAt 07:15 PM 5/14/2005 -0700, you wrote: >Perkins are boat anchors. I refuse to own one. > >Blair in Oregon > > > >At 06:58 PM 5/14/2005, you wrote: > > > >Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2005 7:41 PM > >Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Replacement Generator > > > >Jeff I had the same problem with my old perkins with the oil seal it turn > >out that the crank shaft was going to have to be replaced or built back up. > >I decided to replace the hole generator with a new 12 KW power teck.I > >personly preferd the power teck with a Kubota engin over the old worn out > >perkins engin.The power teck has no slip rings or brushes. > > Bob Loomas 1985 PT 36 > > > > > > > >Today while removing the Perkins motor to replace the seals on it we > >got to thinking, does it pay to even do the job on a generator with > >more than 5500 hours on it? We wonder if all we will be doing is fixing > >this thing, and would the money be better spent in the purchase of a > >new Onan 8000 quiet deisel? Is this a good route to go and is a 8000 > >big enough, its 240 pounds lighter than a 10,000 or a 12,500 watt Onan. > >Will it fit in the tray and can it be wired into the coach as it is? > >Looking for comments & suggestions by those who have made this move. > > > >Jeff & Michelle August > >1980 FC35RB > >Plymouth, WI > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ------- > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: > > > ><<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WanderlodgeForum/>http://groups.yahoo.com > /group/WanderlodgeForum/>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WanderlodgeForum/ > > > > b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > WanderlodgeForum-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > > > > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > >---------- > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > * To visit your group on the web, go to: > > * > > > <<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WanderlodgeForum/>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/\ WanderlodgeForum/>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WanderlodgeForum/ > > > > > * > > * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > * > > > odgeForum-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > > * > > * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the > > > <<http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>Yahoo! > Terms of Service. > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > >---------- >Yahoo! Groups Links > * To visit your group on the web, go to: > * > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WanderlodgeForum/>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/W\ anderlodgeForum/ > > * > * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > * > odgeForum-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > * > * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the > <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>Yahoo! Terms of Service. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WanderlodgeForum/ b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: WanderlodgeForum-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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