This may be a true find ???

[Gregory OConnor]

http://asheville.craigslist.org/rvs/624602624.html

GregoryO'Connor

[erniecarpet@...]

I wonder if the individual that posted that ad had real fat fingers? 48 feet? I'd like to see that thing.

Ernie Ekberg
83PT40
Livingston, Montana

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[Pete Masterson]

$8000 for a 48' BB sounds like a steal -- and probably you'll be the victim.

I wouldn't even reply to that ad! 

(And a 48' coach wouldn't be street legal anywhere in the U.S.)

Pete Masterson

'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42

El Sobrante CA

"aeonix1@mac.com"

On Apr 4, 2008, at 7:44 AM, Gregory OConnor wrote:

http://asheville.craigslist.org/rvs/624602624.html

GregoryO'Connor

[brad barton]

Not that it matters, but I thought some Prevosts and Marathons had some 50-foot coaches. 43' is too long for me. Just got back from Leatherheads tonight. Good show. You'll enjoy it.

BradBarton00LXiDFW bbartonwx@...

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To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
From: aeonix1@...
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 11:43:53 -0700
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] This may be a true find ???

$8000 for a 48' BB sounds like a steal -- and probably you'll be the victim.

I wouldn't even reply to that ad!

(And a 48' coach wouldn't be street legal anywhere in the U.S.)

Pete Masterson

'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42

El Sobrante CA

"aeonix1@mac.com"

On Apr 4, 2008, at 7:44 AM, Gregory OConnor wrote:

http://asheville.craigslist.org/rvs/624602624.html

GregoryO'Connor

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[Gregory OConnor]

Funny how one buyer can read between the lines and see potential for
an under promoted good deal and other buyers can see clear of ever
finding a good deal. Victims are buyers who let themselves believe
what their greed driven ambition wants the outcome to be. Greedy, I
get burnt quite a bit. now less often than my 30's.


GregoryO'Connor
94ptRomolandCa

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Pete Masterson
wrote:
>
> $8000 for a 48' BB sounds like a steal -- and probably you'll be
the
> victim.
> I wouldn't even reply to that ad!
>
> (And a 48' coach wouldn't be street legal anywhere in the U.S.)
>
> Pete Masterson
> '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
> El Sobrante CA
> aeonix1@...
>
>
>
> On Apr 4, 2008, at 7:44 AM, Gregory OConnor wrote:
>
> > http://asheville.craigslist.org/rvs/624602624.html
> >
> > GregoryO'Connor
> >
> >
>

[Mike Hohnstein]

Yeah, it's called 'wisdom'.

MH

----- Original Message -----

From: "Gregoryoc@aol.com"

To: "WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com"

Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 10:55 PM

Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: This may be a true find ???

Funny how one buyer can read between the lines and see potential for
an under promoted good deal and other buyers can see clear of ever
finding a good deal. Victims are buyers who let themselves believe
what their greed driven ambition wants the outcome to be. Greedy, I
get burnt quite a bit. now less often than my 30's.

GregoryO'Connor
94ptRomolandCa

--- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", Pete Masterson
> wrote:
>
> $8000 for a 48' BB sounds like a steal -- and probably you'll be
the
> victim.
> I wouldn't even reply to that ad!
>
> (And a 48' coach wouldn't be street legal anywhere in the U.S.)
>
> Pete Masterson
> '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
> El Sobrante CA
> aeonix1@...
>
>
>
> On Apr 4, 2008, at 7:44 AM, Gregory OConnor wrote:
>
> > http://asheville.craigslist.org/rvs/624602624.html
> >
> > GregoryO'Connor
> >
> >
>

[Pete Masterson]

One of the most common scams on Craigs list is a product offered at a very attractive price. If you respond, you'll be asked to send a payment off by wire to some foreign location. Then you'll never receive clear title to the purchase.

The number of grammatical errors and outright factual errors might suggest a non-English speaking, non-US resident behind the ad -- increasing the potential that it's fraudulent.

Pete Masterson

'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42

El Sobrante CA

"aeonix1@mac.com"

On Apr 4, 2008, at 8:55 PM, Gregory OConnor wrote:

Funny how one buyer can read between the lines and see potential for 

an under promoted good  deal and other buyers can see clear of ever 

finding a good deal.  Victims are buyers who let themselves believe 

what their greed driven ambition wants the outcome to be. Greedy, I 

get burnt quite a bit. now less often than my 30's.

GregoryO'Connor

94ptRomolandCa

--- In "WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com", Pete Masterson 

wrote:

$8000 for a 48' BB sounds like a steal -- and probably you'll be 

the  

victim.

<snip>

[Gregory OConnor]

Pete,

It is 'One of the more common'. Or 'The most common'. 'The Most'
defines the single aboslute one.

I just wanted to point out that even real and good folks can make
grammer errors. I make many but that may only further your point.

Buyers are safe to approach every advert with suspision. A google
search of this 8 grand sale's phone number shows it to be a cell
phone with no other adverts online. Tripple A may be best to
advise on title transfer with a probate/estate sale.

GregoryO'Connor
94ptRomolandCa



n WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Pete Masterson
wrote:
>
> One of the most common scams on Craigs list is a product offered
at a
> very attractive price. If you respond, you'll be asked to send a
> payment off by wire to some foreign location. Then you'll never
> receive clear title to the purchase.
>
> The number of grammatical errors and outright factual errors
might
> suggest a non-English speaking, non-US resident behind the ad --
> increasing the potential that it's fraudulent.
>
> Pete Masterson
> '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
> El Sobrante CA
> aeonix1@...
>
>
>
> On Apr 4, 2008, at 8:55 PM, Gregory OConnor wrote:
>
> > Funny how one buyer can read between the lines and see potential
for
> > an under promoted good deal and other buyers can see clear of
ever
> > finding a good deal. Victims are buyers who let themselves
believe
> > what their greed driven ambition wants the outcome to be.
Greedy, I
> > get burnt quite a bit. now less often than my 30's.
> >
> >
> > GregoryO'Connor
> > 94ptRomolandCa
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Pete Masterson
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> $8000 for a 48' BB sounds like a steal -- and probably you'll be
> > the
> >> victim.
> >> <snip>
>

[Ryan Wright]

On 4/5/08, Pete Masterson wrote:
>
> One of the most common scams on Craigs list is a product offered at a very
attractive
> price. If you respond, you'll be asked to send a payment off by wire to some
foreign
> location. Then you'll never receive clear title to the purchase.

All very true.

That said, other than a potential waste of time, it doesn't hurt to
call. I've yet to run across a scam that I'd be fooled by. These guys
aren't professionals and as soon as they start with the ridiculous
story ("I had to move to Siberia and leave my $100k coach behind so
you can have it really cheap") it's, "No thanks, goodbye."

On the other hand, you might actually run into a guy who inherited the
darn thing and has no idea what it's worth, or someone who just needs
quick cash. I bought a DeLorean for ~$8,000 less than it was worth
because the guy was looking at a bankruptcy and wanted to move it
fast. And a couple of years back a guy bought a brand new Lotus for a
couple hundred pounds on eBay - the owner's wife (who held legal
title) was angry with her husband and essentially gave the car away.
The buyer left glowing feedback.

Simply, don't fork over any money until you have inspected the
vehicle, in person, with the owner, who has the title in his hands.
Then you trade your money for the keys and the signed title in a
single face to face transaction. As long as you've verified the guy in
front of you is, indeed, the legal owner, and you've done a good job
of inspecting the vehicle, chances are slim you're going to get
burned.

-Ryan
'86 PT-40 8V92

[Dorn Hetzel]

I would add that to make this transaction safe for the seller as well, in this world of hard to spot bogus cashiers checks, do the deal at a branch of some bank you already do business with that is convenient to the sellers location and have the bank make the cashiers check in front of the seller. it's also nice because banks almost always have a notary handy for the bill of sale, etc.


Dorn Hetzel
77FC35
Hogansville, GA

On Sun, Apr 6, 2008 at 9:43 PM, Ryan Wright <"ryanpwright@gmail.com"> wrote:

On 4/5/08, Pete Masterson <"aeonix1%40mac.com"> wrote:

>

> One of the most common scams on Craigs list is a product offered at a very attractive

> price. If you respond, you'll be asked to send a payment off by wire to some foreign

> location. Then you'll never receive clear title to the purchase.

All very true.



That said, other than a potential waste of time, it doesn't hurt to

call. I've yet to run across a scam that I'd be fooled by. These guys

aren't professionals and as soon as they start with the ridiculous

story ("I had to move to Siberia and leave my $100k coach behind so

you can have it really cheap") it's, "No thanks, goodbye."



On the other hand, you might actually run into a guy who inherited the

darn thing and has no idea what it's worth, or someone who just needs

quick cash. I bought a DeLorean for ~$8,000 less than it was worth

because the guy was looking at a bankruptcy and wanted to move it

fast. And a couple of years back a guy bought a brand new Lotus for a

couple hundred pounds on eBay - the owner's wife (who held legal

title) was angry with her husband and essentially gave the car away.

The buyer left glowing feedback.



Simply, don't fork over any money until you have inspected the

vehicle, in person, with the owner, who has the title in his hands.

Then you trade your money for the keys and the signed title in a

single face to face transaction. As long as you've verified the guy in

front of you is, indeed, the legal owner, and you've done a good job

of inspecting the vehicle, chances are slim you're going to get

burned.



-Ryan

'86 PT-40 8V92