Rv Condo Lots??? SOLD

[bumpersbird]

Thanks for all the input on the RV Condo Lots.
I did reserve a Super Lot and a dock at Holiday Cove RV Resort in
Cortez FL. http://holidaycoverv.com/florida-rv-lots-for-sale.htm
I requested the developer to combine two lots to make a pull thru and
maintain the ability to use/rent the Super Lot as two individual
lots, they agreed and threw in a larger patio and a full length drive
for the coach and trailer.
As an added incentive they reduced the price of the docks by 40% to
anyone who is buying one of only 4 available pull thru lots that will
accommodate coaches with trailers/stackers. This also reduced the
total number of lots offered from 97 to 94; the park originally had
112 lots in its old layout.
They also have the lowest HOA fees I found $124.00 a month with a
dock fee of $14.00 a month for maintenance. The docks are private and
inaccessible to none dock owners
In my research I discovered that pull thru lots rented more often
than other lot types, All of the lots until now were either pull in
or back in, an added advantage in the rental area, hopefully.
If you're interested in a smaller park, with what falls into the
Location, Location, Location category. You can pull your coach up
under the shade trees on the beach and in just a few short steps
you're in the Gulf of Mexico. Can you say location, location,
location?
The lots in general are ample, they are not the biggest you can find,
but they are reasonably priced for what you get and with the
exceptions of Bluewater and Playa del Rio, (smaller lots at a higher
price, lots of sand from the beach, but their docks are cheaper and
accommodate larger boats up to 40'.
http://www.playadelrio.com/Documents/cur...g_1_08.pdf
It's as close to salt water you can get in FLA. There are a few lots
in Destin for sale but Destin really has been over developed.
Just a few personal responses;
Pete, I wouldn't count on the baby boomers for much of anything other
than they are going to spend a lot of money somewhere.
Wallace, my wife agrees with you.
David, I don't like to rent, or borrow, so buy it is, unless of
course the CPA has a better idea.
Leroy, your right,you only get what you pay for, it's got the best
bang for the buck. Dang there one of the catch phrases.
Hank, we got a stop over spot for you in Tennessee or Florida
Roger, the first time I heard of Bluewater the lots were under 100K,
and at the time we were living hand to mouth. Grand Daddy used to say
it isn't a good deal unless you got money in your pocket.
Oh yes on the weather. Hurricanes, Hurricane, Hurricanes. What's to
lose? A cement pad and an electric post. Yes, this park is in a flood
zone. But I hadn't planned on hanging around for that event anyway.
Besides anything I bring to Florida is on wheels. Hurricanes would be
the classic example, but there are others.
Thanks for the input group. It was helpful.

Kurt Horvath
95 PT-42 WLWB
Fayetteville TN

[Leroy Eckert]

This is fun. I lived inside Sandestin Beach Resort on the Links Golf Course from 1987 to 2001 before Baytown Wharf screw the whole Resort up and in Niceville from 2001 to 2007, then moved to the GA woods. I certainly no longer consider Destin location, location, location and will assure you I am not the only one as it is totally screwed up. Even world famous AJ's is a tourist trap now, the very place I used to store my 31 foot hauling butt Warlock Offshore and run it through East Pass wide open. Can't do that now.

I am familiar with the two or three RV resorts there and would not have any one of them at any price.

I alway liked the 718.533 disclaimer.

Leroy Eckert
1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors
Dahlonega, GA
Royale Conversion

bumpersbird wrote:

Thanks for all the input on the RV Condo Lots.
I did reserve a Super Lot and a dock at Holiday Cove RV Resort in
Cortez FL. http://holidaycoverv.com/florida-rv-lots-for-sale.htm
I requested the developer to combine two lots to make a pull thru and
maintain the ability to use/rent the Super Lot as two individual
lots, they agreed and threw in a larger patio and a full length drive
for the coach and trailer.
As an added incentive they reduced the price of the docks by 40% to
anyone who is buying one of only 4 available pull thru lots that will
accommodate coaches with
trailers/stackers. This also reduced the
total number of lots offered from 97 to 94; the park originally had
112 lots in its old layout.
They also have the lowest HOA fees I found $124.00 a month with a
dock fee of $14.00 a month for maintenance. The docks are private and
inaccessible to none dock owners
In my research I discovered that pull thru lots rented more often
than other lot types, All of the lots until now were either pull in
or back in, an added advantage in the rental area, hopefully.
If you're interested in a smaller park, with what falls into the
Location, Location, Location category. You can pull your coach up
under the shade trees on the beach and in just a few short steps
you're in the Gulf of Mexico. Can you say location, location,
location?
The lots in general are ample, they are not the biggest you can find,
but they are reasonably priced for what you get and with the
exceptions
of Bluewater and Playa del Rio, (smaller lots at a higher
price, lots of sand from the beach, but their docks are cheaper and
accommodate larger boats up to 40'.
http://www.playadelrio.com/Documents/current%20pricing_1_08.pdf
It's as close to salt water you can get in FLA. There are a few lots
in Destin for sale but Destin really has been over developed.
Just a few personal responses;
Pete, I wouldn't count on the baby boomers for much of anything other
than they are going to spend a lot of money somewhere.
Wallace, my wife agrees with you.
David, I don't like to rent, or borrow, so buy it is, unless of
course the CPA has a better idea.
Leroy, your right,you only get what you pay for, it's got the best
bang for the buck. Dang there one of the catch phrases.
Hank, we got a stop over spot for you in Tennessee or
Florida
Roger, the first time I heard of Bluewater the lots were under 100K,
and at the time we were living hand to mouth. Grand Daddy used to say
it isn't a good deal unless you got money in your pocket.
Oh yes on the weather. Hurricanes, Hurricane, Hurricanes. What's to
lose? A cement pad and an electric post. Yes, this park is in a flood
zone. But I hadn't planned on hanging around for that event anyway.
Besides anything I bring to Florida is on wheels. Hurricanes would be
the classic example, but there are others.
Thanks for the input group. It was helpful.

Kurt Horvath
95 PT-42 WLWB
Fayetteville TN

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[bumpersbird]

Yea! The Redneck Riviera. I'm with you, FLA ain't what it used to be.
I ran from S. FLA to the 10AC hills back in '86. When I wanted to be
a Marine biologist back in the 70's I saw the writting on the walls.
When I was a kid Naples only had a wooden bridge and the only thing
on the island was a bait shack. Now the the only thing on that island
are blue hairs. The park I just bought a lot in was old Florida but
you know as well as I do that will change. The deciding factor for me
is I have family in the area. I guess all but one public park is left
on Destin now, well except Henderson St. Park we've spent the last
two X-Mass there. Now that's OLD Florida.

Kurt Horvath
95 PT-42 WLWB


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Leroy Eckert
wrote:
>
> This is fun. I lived inside Sandestin Beach Resort on the Links
Golf Course from 1987 to 2001 before Baytown Wharf screw the whole
Resort up and in Niceville from 2001 to 2007, then moved to the GA
woods. I certainly no longer consider Destin location, location,
location and will assure you I am not the only one as it is totally
screwed up. Even world famous AJ's is a tourist trap now, the very
place I used to store my 31 foot hauling butt Warlock Offshore and
run it through East Pass wide open. Can't do that now.
>
> I am familiar with the two or three RV resorts there and would not
have any one of them at any price.
>
> I alway liked the 718.533 disclaimer.
>
> Leroy Eckert
> 1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors
> Dahlonega, GA
> Royale Conversion
>
> bumpersbird wrote:
Thanks for all the input on the RV Condo Lots.
> I did reserve a Super Lot and a dock at Holiday Cove RV Resort in
> Cortez FL. http://holidaycoverv.com/florida-rv-lots-for-sale.htm
> I requested the developer to combine two lots to make a pull thru
and
> maintain the ability to use/rent the Super Lot as two individual
> lots, they agreed and threw in a larger patio and a full length
drive
> for the coach and trailer.
> As an added incentive they reduced the price of the docks by 40%
to
> anyone who is buying one of only 4 available pull thru lots that
will
> accommodate coaches with trailers/stackers. This also reduced the
> total number of lots offered from 97 to 94; the park originally
had
> 112 lots in its old layout.
> They also have the lowest HOA fees I found $124.00 a month with a
> dock fee of $14.00 a month for maintenance. The docks are private
and
> inaccessible to none dock owners
> In my research I discovered that pull thru lots rented more often
> than other lot types, All of the lots until now were either pull
in
> or back in, an added advantage in the rental area, hopefully.
> If you're interested in a smaller park, with what falls into the
> Location, Location, Location category. You can pull your coach up
> under the shade trees on the beach and in just a few short steps
> you're in the Gulf of Mexico. Can you say location, location,
> location?
> The lots in general are ample, they are not the biggest you can
find,
> but they are reasonably priced for what you get and with the
> exceptions of Bluewater and Playa del Rio, (smaller lots at a
higher
> price, lots of sand from the beach, but their docks are cheaper
and
> accommodate larger boats up to 40'.
> http://www.playadelrio.com/Documents/cur...g_1_08.pdf
> It's as close to salt water you can get in FLA. There are a few
lots
> in Destin for sale but Destin really has been over developed.
> Just a few personal responses;
> Pete, I wouldn't count on the baby boomers for much of anything
other
> than they are going to spend a lot of money somewhere.
> Wallace, my wife agrees with you.
> David, I don't like to rent, or borrow, so buy it is, unless of
> course the CPA has a better idea.
> Leroy, your right,you only get what you pay for, it's got the best
> bang for the buck. Dang there one of the catch phrases.
> Hank, we got a stop over spot for you in Tennessee or Florida
> Roger, the first time I heard of Bluewater the lots were under
100K,
> and at the time we were living hand to mouth. Grand Daddy used to
say
> it isn't a good deal unless you got money in your pocket.
> Oh yes on the weather. Hurricanes, Hurricane, Hurricanes. What's
to
> lose? A cement pad and an electric post. Yes, this park is in a
flood
> zone. But I hadn't planned on hanging around for that event
anyway.
> Besides anything I bring to Florida is on wheels. Hurricanes would
be
> the classic example, but there are others.
> Thanks for the input group. It was helpful.
>
> Kurt Horvath
> 95 PT-42 WLWB
> Fayetteville TN
>
>
>
>
>
>
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[Leroy Eckert]

Now is the time to buy for the long term in FL. I hope it works out for you.
Henderson is the only one left of any consequence really, perhaps Tops'l. The State RV park in Grayton is nice and the State Park across the bay in Niceville, is also nice but small.
I think I'm fix'in to be a blue hair pretty soon, except it is grey. lol

Leroy Eckert
1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors
Dahlonega, GA
bumpersbird wrote:

Yea! The Redneck Riviera. I'm with you, FLA ain't what it used to be.
I ran from S. FLA to the 10AC hills
back in '86. When I wanted to be
a Marine biologist back in the 70's I saw the writting on the walls.
When I was a kid Naples only had a wooden bridge and the only thing
on the island was a bait shack. Now the the only thing on that island
are blue hairs. The park I just bought a lot in was old Florida but
you know as well as I do that will change. The deciding factor for me
is I have family in the area. I guess all but one public park is left
on Destin now, well except Henderson St. Park we've spent the last
two X-Mass there. Now that's OLD Florida.

Kurt Horvath
95 PT-42 WLWB

--- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", Leroy Eckert
...> wrote:
>
> This is fun. I lived inside Sandestin Beach Resort on the Links
Golf Course from 1987 to 2001 before Baytown Wharf screw the whole
Resort up and in
Niceville from 2001 to 2007, then moved to the GA
woods. I certainly no longer consider Destin location, location,
location and will assure you I am not the only one as it is totally
screwed up. Even world famous AJ's is a tourist trap now, the very
place I used to store my 31 foot hauling butt Warlock Offshore and
run it through East Pass wide open. Can't do that now.
>
> I am familiar with the two or three RV resorts there and would not
have any one of them at any price.
>
> I alway liked the 718.533 disclaimer.
>
> Leroy Eckert
> 1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors
> Dahlonega, GA
> Royale Conversion
>
> bumpersbird ...> wrote:
Thanks for all the input on the RV Condo Lots.
> I did reserve a Super Lot and a dock at Holiday Cove RV Resort in
> Cortez FL. http://holidaycoverv.com/florida-rv-lots-for-sale.htm
> I requested the developer to combine two lots to make a pull thru
and
> maintain the ability to use/rent the Super Lot as two individual
> lots, they agreed and threw in a larger patio and a full length
drive
> for the coach and trailer.
> As an added incentive they reduced the price of the docks by 40%
to
> anyone who is buying one of only 4 available pull thru lots that
will
> accommodate coaches with trailers/stackers. This also reduced the
> total number of lots offered from 97 to 94; the park originally
had
> 112 lots in its old layout.
> They also have the lowest HOA fees I found $124.00 a month with a
> dock fee of $14.00 a month for maintenance. The docks are private
and
> inaccessible to none dock
owners
> In my research I discovered that pull thru lots rented more often
> than other lot types, All of the lots until now were either pull
in
> or back in, an added advantage in the rental area, hopefully.
> If you're interested in a smaller park, with what falls into the
> Location, Location, Location category. You can pull your coach up
> under the shade trees on the beach and in just a few short steps
> you're in the Gulf of Mexico. Can you say location, location,
> location?
> The lots in general are ample, they are not the biggest you can
find,
> but they are reasonably priced for what you get and with the
> exceptions of Bluewater and Playa del Rio, (smaller lots at a
higher
> price, lots of sand from the beach, but their docks are cheaper
and
> accommodate larger boats up to 40'.
> http://www.playadelrio.com/Documents/current%20pricing_1_08.pdf
> It's as close to salt water you can get in FLA. There are a few
lots
> in Destin for sale but Destin really has been over developed.
> Just a few personal responses;
> Pete, I wouldn't count on the baby boomers for much of anything
other
> than they are going to spend a lot of money somewhere.
> Wallace, my wife agrees with you.
> David, I don't like to rent, or borrow, so buy it is, unless of
> course the CPA has a better idea.
> Leroy, your right,you only get what you pay for, it's got the best
> bang for the buck. Dang there one of the catch phrases.
> Hank, we got a stop over spot for you in Tennessee or Florida
> Roger, the first time I heard of Bluewater the lots were under
100K,
> and at the time we were living hand to mouth. Grand Daddy used to
say
> it isn't a good deal unless you got money in your pocket.
> Oh yes on the weather. Hurricanes, Hurricane, Hurricanes. What's
to
> lose? A cement pad and an electric post. Yes, this park is in a
flood
> zone. But I hadn't planned on hanging around for that event
anyway.
> Besides anything I bring to Florida is on wheels. Hurricanes would
be
> the classic example, but there are others.
> Thanks for the input group. It was helpful.
>
> Kurt Horvath
> 95 PT-42 WLWB
> Fayetteville TN
>
>
>
>
>
>
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[Gregory OConnor]

Kurt, I understand you are an artist. I bet you are not the only
artist involved in the sale. you repeat sales responces with
conviction. The best way to find the down side of a developers plan
is to talk with competitors and do the research to prove their
negitive claims. I like to do a limited liability partnership search
in county records to look at previous developement deals by cross
referencing the personal names. Often development construction
liens show up on common area title search which later burden the
monthly fees. Some developers are shysters (is it near Archer??).
I subtract the negatives and use the result to make my decision. I
never found that higher risk gave better reward. Knowing the risk
only relieved the surprise.

The place looks fantastic. Congrats

GregoryO'Connor
94ptRomolandCa

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "bumpersbird"
wrote:
>
> Thanks for all the input on the RV Condo Lots.
> I did reserve a Super Lot and a dock at Holiday Cove RV Resort in
> Cortez FL. http://holidaycoverv.com/florida-rv-lots-for-sale.htm
> I requested the developer to combine two lots to make a pull thru
and
> maintain the ability to use/rent the Super Lot as two individual
> lots, they agreed and threw in a larger patio and a full length
drive
> for the coach and trailer.
> As an added incentive they reduced the price of the docks by 40%
to
> anyone who is buying one of only 4 available pull thru lots that
will
> accommodate coaches with trailers/stackers. This also reduced the
> total number of lots offered from 97 to 94; the park originally
had
> 112 lots in its old layout.
> They also have the lowest HOA fees I found $124.00 a month with a
> dock fee of $14.00 a month for maintenance. The docks are private
and
> inaccessible to none dock owners
> In my research I discovered that pull thru lots rented more often
> than other lot types, All of the lots until now were either pull
in
> or back in, an added advantage in the rental area, hopefully.
> If you're interested in a smaller park, with what falls into the
> Location, Location, Location category. You can pull your coach up
> under the shade trees on the beach and in just a few short steps
> you're in the Gulf of Mexico. Can you say location, location,
> location?
> The lots in general are ample, they are not the biggest you can
find,
> but they are reasonably priced for what you get and with the
> exceptions of Bluewater and Playa del Rio, (smaller lots at a
higher
> price, lots of sand from the beach, but their docks are cheaper
and
> accommodate larger boats up to 40'.
> http://www.playadelrio.com/Documents/cur...g_1_08.pdf
> It's as close to salt water you can get in FLA. There are a few
lots
> in Destin for sale but Destin really has been over developed.
> Just a few personal responses;
> Pete, I wouldn't count on the baby boomers for much of anything
other
> than they are going to spend a lot of money somewhere.
> Wallace, my wife agrees with you.
> David, I don't like to rent, or borrow, so buy it is, unless of
> course the CPA has a better idea.
> Leroy, your right,you only get what you pay for, it's got the best
> bang for the buck. Dang there one of the catch phrases.
> Hank, we got a stop over spot for you in Tennessee or Florida
> Roger, the first time I heard of Bluewater the lots were under
100K,
> and at the time we were living hand to mouth. Grand Daddy used to
say
> it isn't a good deal unless you got money in your pocket.
> Oh yes on the weather. Hurricanes, Hurricane, Hurricanes. What's
to
> lose? A cement pad and an electric post. Yes, this park is in a
flood
> zone. But I hadn't planned on hanging around for that event
anyway.
> Besides anything I bring to Florida is on wheels. Hurricanes would
be
> the classic example, but there are others.
> Thanks for the input group. It was helpful.
>
> Kurt Horvath
> 95 PT-42 WLWB
> Fayetteville TN
>

[Kurt Horvath]

Greg, The man building the park is David Gorin. He has an impressive career in the RV/Camping industry, as does his staff. http://www.davidgorinassociates.com/ With the searches I conducted. I am confident in a good outcome. Of course anything could happen; Florida has some great laws to protect the public from such artists you referenced. I grew up there and I’ve heard all the stories good and bad. Of course if things go bad and after all traditional options are exhausted there’s always the ________________ Option. Kurt Horvath 95 PT-42 --- On Mon, 5/5/08, Gregory OConnor wrote: From: Gregory OConnor Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Rv Condo Lots??? SOLD To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, May 5, 2008, 11:01 AM Kurt, I understand you are an artist. I bet you are not the only artist involved in the sale. you repeat sales responces with conviction. The best way to find the down side of a developers plan is to talk with competitors and do the research to prove their negitive claims. I like to do a limited liability partnership search in county records to look at previous developement deals by cross referencing the personal names. Often development construction liens show up on common area title search which later burden the monthly fees. Some developers are shysters (is it near Archer??). I subtract the negatives and use the result to make my decision. I never found that higher risk gave better reward. Knowing the risk only relieved the surprise. The place looks fantastic. Congrats GregoryO'Connor 94ptRomolandCa --- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", "bumpersbird" wrote: > > Thanks for all the input on the RV Condo Lots. > I did reserve a Super Lot and a dock at Holiday Cove RV Resort in > Cortez FL. http://holidaycover v.com/florida- rv-lots-for- sale.htm > I requested the developer to combine two lots to make a pull thru and > maintain the ability to use/rent the Super Lot as two individual > lots, they agreed and threw in a larger patio and a full length drive > for the coach and trailer. > As an added incentive they reduced the price of the docks by 40% to > anyone who is buying one of only 4 available pull thru lots that will > accommodate coaches with trailers/stackers. This also reduced the > total number of lots offered from 97 to 94; the park originally had > 112 lots in its old layout. > They also have the lowest HOA fees I found $124.00 a month with a > dock fee of $14.00 a month for maintenance. The docks are private and > inaccessible to none dock owners > In my research I discovered that pull thru lots rented more often > than other lot types, All of the lots until now were either pull in > or back in, an added advantage in the rental area, hopefully. > If you're interested in a smaller park, with what falls into the > Location, Location, Location category. You can pull your coach up > under the shade trees on the beach and in just a few short steps > you're in the Gulf of Mexico. Can you say location, location, > location? > The lots in general are ample, they are not the biggest you can find, > but they are reasonably priced for what you get and with the > exceptions of Bluewater and Playa del Rio, (smaller lots at a higher > price, lots of sand from the beach, but their docks are cheaper and > accommodate larger boats up to 40'. > http://www.playadel rio.com/Document s/current% 20pricing_ 1_08.pdf > It's as close to salt water you can get in FLA. There are a few lots > in Destin for sale but Destin really has been over developed. > Just a few personal responses; > Pete, I wouldn't count on the baby boomers for much of anything other > than they are going to spend a lot of money somewhere. > Wallace, my wife agrees with you. > David, I don't like to rent, or borrow, so buy it is, unless of > course the CPA has a better idea. > Leroy, your right,you only get what you pay for, it's got the best > bang for the buck. Dang there one of the catch phrases. > Hank, we got a stop over spot for you in Tennessee or Florida > Roger, the first time I heard of Bluewater the lots were under 100K, > and at the time we were living hand to mouth. Grand Daddy used to say > it isn't a good deal unless you got money in your pocket. > Oh yes on the weather. Hurricanes, Hurricane, Hurricanes. What's to > lose? A cement pad and an electric post. Yes, this park is in a flood > zone. But I hadn't planned on hanging around for that event anyway. > Besides anything I bring to Florida is on wheels. Hurricanes would be > the classic example, but there are others. > Thanks for the input group. It was helpful. > > Kurt Horvath > 95 PT-42 WLWB > Fayetteville TN >

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