Front page photo

[Ernest Ekberg]

After an exhaustive search on Google, the coach on the home page is
from the Oberto company. http://www.ohboyoberto.com
It doesn't show that coach, but has descriptions of all their products.
It seems to be a large company that sponsors events. Ernie-83PT40 in
Texas

[Jeff Miller]

Looks like an '80, could be older, your guess Randy?

- Jeff Miller


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Ernest Ekberg"
wrote:
> After an exhaustive search on Google, the coach on the home page is
> from the Oberto company. http://www.ohboyoberto.com
> It doesn't show that coach, but has descriptions of all their
products.
> It seems to be a large company that sponsors events. Ernie-83PT40 in
> Texas

[randydupree]

i just can't tell!odd,it has cruise airs and no pods on the roof,the whole roof
is bare,then there is the gaurd over the condensor and tv antenna on the
front..randy
----- Original Message -----
From: Jeff Miller
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 10:55 PM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Front page photo


Looks like an '80, could be older, your guess Randy?

- Jeff Miller


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Ernest Ekberg"
wrote:
> After an exhaustive search on Google, the coach on the home page is
> from the Oberto company. http://www.ohboyoberto.com
> It doesn't show that coach, but has descriptions of all their
products.
> It seems to be a large company that sponsors events. Ernie-83PT40 in
> Texas




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[Jeff Miller]

Although I can't see the lights enough to be sure, I'm starting to
think it is '82-'83, ... could be an '84 WLII if not for the front
cap. It doesn't seem to have a center A/C which would indicate 31/33
or WLII but other things tell me WLII. Sure am curious.

- Jeff Miller


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, randydupree
wrote:
> i just can't tell!odd,it has cruise airs and no pods on the
roof,the whole roof is bare,then there is the gaurd over the
condensor and tv antenna on the front..randy
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jeff Miller
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 10:55 PM
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Front page photo
>
>
> Looks like an '80, could be older, your guess Randy?
>
> - Jeff Miller
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Ernest Ekberg"
> wrote:
> > After an exhaustive search on Google, the coach on the home
page is
> > from the Oberto company. http://www.ohboyoberto.com
> > It doesn't show that coach, but has descriptions of all their
> products.
> > It seems to be a large company that sponsors events. Ernie-
83PT40 in
> > Texas
>
>
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[freewill2008]

If this is a WLII, these items have been added to the base WLII:
Alloy wheels, landing lights, awning, roof rack, air horns. On the
other hand, it has painted bumpers.

The salon side windows extend to the bottom of the bump-strip. The
taller windows started in '82, I think.

The mirrors are the same as those shown on the 82 and 83. In the BB
liturature, the mirrors changed from 83 to 84. The WLII was 1984
only, and (ours) uses the standard 84 WL mirror.

I think there is too much distance from the door to the front
wheelwell to be a 31'. The 33 gains about a foot in that area.

My guess is 82-83 33'. Hard to tell why the bumpers are painted, but
paint *is* an inexpensive way to temporarily deal with rusted chrome,
and this bus has seen lots of paint.

Jeff: Is there no center roof air, or no roof airs at all? I guess
the roof airs could have been replaced with vents. Same size hole.

Randy: Are you guessing cruise air because of no roof air? Is there
anywhere to stuff cruise air units under this age and length FC? It
is sure shallow and cramped under there compared to PTs of the same
age.

Bob Griesel '84 FC31 WLII WA

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Miller"
wrote:
> Although I can't see the lights enough to be sure, I'm starting to
> think it is '82-'83, ... could be an '84 WLII if not for the front
> cap. It doesn't seem to have a center A/C which would indicate
31/33
> or WLII but other things tell me WLII. Sure am curious.
>
> - Jeff Miller
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, randydupree
> wrote:
> > i just can't tell!odd,it has cruise airs and no pods on the
> roof,the whole roof is bare,then there is the gaurd over the
> condensor and tv antenna on the front..randy
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Jeff Miller
> > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 10:55 PM
> > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Front page photo
> >
> >
> > Looks like an '80, could be older, your guess Randy?
> >
> > - Jeff Miller
> >
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Ernest Ekberg"
> > wrote:
> > > After an exhaustive search on Google, the coach on the home
> page is
> > > from the Oberto company. http://www.ohboyoberto.com
> > > It doesn't show that coach, but has descriptions of all their
> > products.
> > > It seems to be a large company that sponsors events. Ernie-
> 83PT40 in
> > > Texas
> >

[mbulriss]

Since there is a running discussion about what year and model the
front page Bird is, I have added 3 pictures to a photo albumn called
"Front Page Photos of Advertising Bird". They are full size for a few
days so that you can see the details better.

Looks like Ernie may have too much time on his hands with his
"exhaustive Google search", but he apprears to be correct about the
ownership, since the license plate says "OHBOY 2".

Jeff, I can't tell if it is a commercial plate and did not look at
that when I took the pictures.

When trying to identify the Bird, on the front page shot ignore what
appears to be a black exhaust pipe on the top front. It is actually a
telephone pole in the background that I just quickly erased the top
off in Photoshop for the front page picture.

Mike Bulriss
83 PT40 "Stagecoach" - for sale
91 PT40 "Texas Minivan" - due in tomorrow
San Antonio, TX




--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "freewill2008"
wrote:
> If this is a WLII, these items have been added to the base WLII:
> Alloy wheels, landing lights, awning, roof rack, air horns. On the
> other hand, it has painted bumpers.
>
> The salon side windows extend to the bottom of the bump-strip. The
> taller windows started in '82, I think.
>
> The mirrors are the same as those shown on the 82 and 83. In the BB
> liturature, the mirrors changed from 83 to 84. The WLII was 1984
> only, and (ours) uses the standard 84 WL mirror.
>
> I think there is too much distance from the door to the front
> wheelwell to be a 31'. The 33 gains about a foot in that area.
>
> My guess is 82-83 33'. Hard to tell why the bumpers are painted, but
> paint *is* an inexpensive way to temporarily deal with rusted chrome,
> and this bus has seen lots of paint.
>
> Jeff: Is there no center roof air, or no roof airs at all? I guess
> the roof airs could have been replaced with vents. Same size hole.
>
> Randy: Are you guessing cruise air because of no roof air? Is there
> anywhere to stuff cruise air units under this age and length FC? It
> is sure shallow and cramped under there compared to PTs of the same
> age.
>
> Bob Griesel '84 FC31 WLII WA
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Miller"
> wrote:
> > Although I can't see the lights enough to be sure, I'm starting to
> > think it is '82-'83, ... could be an '84 WLII if not for the front
> > cap. It doesn't seem to have a center A/C which would indicate
> 31/33
> > or WLII but other things tell me WLII. Sure am curious.
> >
> > - Jeff Miller
> >
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, randydupree
> > wrote:
> > > i just can't tell!odd,it has cruise airs and no pods on the
> > roof,the whole roof is bare,then there is the gaurd over the
> > condensor and tv antenna on the front..randy
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Jeff Miller
> > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 10:55 PM
> > > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Front page photo
> > >
> > >
> > > Looks like an '80, could be older, your guess Randy?
> > >
> > > - Jeff Miller
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Ernest Ekberg"
> > > wrote:
> > > > After an exhaustive search on Google, the coach on the home
> > page is
> > > > from the Oberto company. http://www.ohboyoberto.com
> > > > It doesn't show that coach, but has descriptions of all their
> > > products.
> > > > It seems to be a large company that sponsors events. Ernie-
> > 83PT40 in
> > > > Texas
> > >

[jon lechich]

Bob in one of my old brochers it shows all the rigs with painted bumpers. Maybe
it came from the factory that way. I bet if they researched it a little bit
more it probably was a special model that was ordered from the factory just like
mine! Rebel Bird with the back door! Jon

freewill2008 wrote:If this is a WLII, these items have been
added to the base WLII:
Alloy wheels, landing lights, awning, roof rack, air horns. On the
other hand, it has painted bumpers.

The salon side windows extend to the bottom of the bump-strip. The
taller windows started in '82, I think.

The mirrors are the same as those shown on the 82 and 83. In the BB
liturature, the mirrors changed from 83 to 84. The WLII was 1984
only, and (ours) uses the standard 84 WL mirror.

I think there is too much distance from the door to the front
wheelwell to be a 31'. The 33 gains about a foot in that area.

My guess is 82-83 33'. Hard to tell why the bumpers are painted, but
paint *is* an inexpensive way to temporarily deal with rusted chrome,
and this bus has seen lots of paint.

Jeff: Is there no center roof air, or no roof airs at all? I guess
the roof airs could have been replaced with vents. Same size hole.

Randy: Are you guessing cruise air because of no roof air? Is there
anywhere to stuff cruise air units under this age and length FC? It
is sure shallow and cramped under there compared to PTs of the same
age.

Bob Griesel '84 FC31 WLII WA

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Miller"
wrote:
> Although I can't see the lights enough to be sure, I'm starting to
> think it is '82-'83, ... could be an '84 WLII if not for the front
> cap. It doesn't seem to have a center A/C which would indicate
31/33
> or WLII but other things tell me WLII. Sure am curious.
>
> - Jeff Miller
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, randydupree
> wrote:
> > i just can't tell!odd,it has cruise airs and no pods on the
> roof,the whole roof is bare,then there is the gaurd over the
> condensor and tv antenna on the front..randy
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Jeff Miller
> > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 10:55 PM
> > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Front page photo
> >
> >
> > Looks like an '80, could be older, your guess Randy?
> >
> > - Jeff Miller
> >
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Ernest Ekberg"
> > wrote:
> > > After an exhaustive search on Google, the coach on the home
> page is
> > > from the Oberto company. http://www.ohboyoberto.com
> > > It doesn't show that coach, but has descriptions of all their
> > products.
> > > It seems to be a large company that sponsors events. Ernie-
> 83PT40 in
> > > Texas
> >







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[Tom Warner]

I believe it is a 1982 FC33 that has been altered. It appears to have a
cruisair in the rear bedroom and a roof air in the kitchen area. The flying
saucer TV antenna is mounted to the roof rack like a 1982 but the cow
catcher has been added to cover the condenser for some reason. The spot
light is mounted in the center of the condenser like my 1982 FC35. The twin
air horns are in the correct place and appear like my 1982 FC35. The rear
window has been covered. Appears to me to be a one of a kind factoru built
since it is doubtful that an individual would add the cruiseair. It appears
to have the 12.5KW perkins generator and the LP tank in front of the door.

Tom
1982 FC35
Vernon Center,NY




At 06:06 PM 5/19/2005 +0000, you wrote:
>If this is a WLII, these items have been added to the base WLII:
>Alloy wheels, landing lights, awning, roof rack, air horns. On the
>other hand, it has painted bumpers.
>
>The salon side windows extend to the bottom of the bump-strip. The
>taller windows started in '82, I think.
>
>The mirrors are the same as those shown on the 82 and 83. In the BB
>liturature, the mirrors changed from 83 to 84. The WLII was 1984
>only, and (ours) uses the standard 84 WL mirror.
>
>I think there is too much distance from the door to the front
>wheelwell to be a 31'. The 33 gains about a foot in that area.
>
>My guess is 82-83 33'. Hard to tell why the bumpers are painted, but
>paint *is* an inexpensive way to temporarily deal with rusted chrome,
>and this bus has seen lots of paint.
>
>Jeff: Is there no center roof air, or no roof airs at all? I guess
>the roof airs could have been replaced with vents. Same size hole.
>
>Randy: Are you guessing cruise air because of no roof air? Is there
>anywhere to stuff cruise air units under this age and length FC? It
>is sure shallow and cramped under there compared to PTs of the same
>age.
>
>Bob Griesel '84 FC31 WLII WA

[Jeff Miller]

Alloys were on most WLIIs, as were chrome bumpers, and full air-
suspension, and by now most have had additions such as these. The
roof-rack would be unusual.

The front cap and mirrors are definately pre-'84, as are the lights,
which puts us in the mid-'82 through mid-'83 with the '82-up
windows, ... the new photos reveal a center cruise air and diesel
genset, so mid-'82 to mid-'83 FC35.

Now seeing whether it has a turbo and retarder will be a little more
difficult from these photos. I wonder how it got a fixed-mount
antenna, that and the lack of cornering light made me wonder if they
used the early mirrors on the WLII and it was therefore a well-
optioned WLII, but not with the center A/C and diesel genset.

Fun to try to identify it though.

- Jeff Miller



--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "freewill2008"
wrote:
> If this is a WLII, these items have been added to the base WLII:
> Alloy wheels, landing lights, awning, roof rack, air horns. On the
> other hand, it has painted bumpers.
>
> The salon side windows extend to the bottom of the bump-strip. The
> taller windows started in '82, I think.
>
> The mirrors are the same as those shown on the 82 and 83. In the
BB
> liturature, the mirrors changed from 83 to 84. The WLII was 1984
> only, and (ours) uses the standard 84 WL mirror.
>
> I think there is too much distance from the door to the front
> wheelwell to be a 31'. The 33 gains about a foot in that area.
>
> My guess is 82-83 33'. Hard to tell why the bumpers are painted,
but
> paint *is* an inexpensive way to temporarily deal with rusted
chrome,
> and this bus has seen lots of paint.
>
> Jeff: Is there no center roof air, or no roof airs at all? I
guess
> the roof airs could have been replaced with vents. Same size hole.
>
> Randy: Are you guessing cruise air because of no roof air? Is
there
> anywhere to stuff cruise air units under this age and length FC?
It
> is sure shallow and cramped under there compared to PTs of the same
> age.
>
> Bob Griesel '84 FC31 WLII WA

[freewill2008]

Randy - In the new photos, I can see what are probably cruise air
grills along the passenger side. This sure seems like a one-off from
BB. - Bob

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "mbulriss" <mbulriss@y...>
wrote:
> Since there is a running discussion about what year and model the
> front page Bird is, I have added 3 pictures to a photo albumn called
> "Front Page Photos of Advertising Bird". They are full size for a
few
> days so that you can see the details better.
>
> Looks like Ernie may have too much time on his hands with his
> "exhaustive Google search", but he apprears to be correct about the
> ownership, since the license plate says "OHBOY 2".
>
> Jeff, I can't tell if it is a commercial plate and did not look at
> that when I took the pictures.
>
> When trying to identify the Bird, on the front page shot ignore what
> appears to be a black exhaust pipe on the top front. It is
actually a
> telephone pole in the background that I just quickly erased the top
> off in Photoshop for the front page picture.
>
> Mike Bulriss
> 83 PT40 "Stagecoach" - for sale
> 91 PT40 "Texas Minivan" - due in tomorrow
> San Antonio, TX
>
>
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "freewill2008"
> wrote:
> > If this is a WLII, these items have been added to the base WLII:
> > Alloy wheels, landing lights, awning, roof rack, air horns. On
the
> > other hand, it has painted bumpers.
> >
> > The salon side windows extend to the bottom of the bump-strip.
The
> > taller windows started in '82, I think.
> >
> > The mirrors are the same as those shown on the 82 and 83. In the
BB
> > liturature, the mirrors changed from 83 to 84. The WLII was 1984
> > only, and (ours) uses the standard 84 WL mirror.
> >
> > I think there is too much distance from the door to the front
> > wheelwell to be a 31'. The 33 gains about a foot in that area.
> >
> > My guess is 82-83 33'. Hard to tell why the bumpers are painted,
but
> > paint *is* an inexpensive way to temporarily deal with rusted
chrome,
> > and this bus has seen lots of paint.
> >
> > Jeff: Is there no center roof air, or no roof airs at all? I
guess
> > the roof airs could have been replaced with vents. Same size
hole.
> >
> > Randy: Are you guessing cruise air because of no roof air? Is
there
> > anywhere to stuff cruise air units under this age and length FC?
It
> > is sure shallow and cramped under there compared to PTs of the
same
> > age.
> >
> > Bob Griesel '84 FC31 WLII WA
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Miller"
> > wrote:
> > > Although I can't see the lights enough to be sure, I'm starting
to
> > > think it is '82-'83, ... could be an '84 WLII if not for the
front
> > > cap. It doesn't seem to have a center A/C which would indicate
> > 31/33
> > > or WLII but other things tell me WLII. Sure am curious.
> > >
> > > - Jeff Miller
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, randydupree

> > > wrote:
> > > > i just can't tell!odd,it has cruise airs and no pods on the
> > > roof,the whole roof is bare,then there is the gaurd over the
> > > condensor and tv antenna on the front..randy
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: Jeff Miller
> > > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 10:55 PM
> > > > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Front page photo
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Looks like an '80, could be older, your guess Randy?
> > > >
> > > > - Jeff Miller
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Ernest Ekberg"
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > After an exhaustive search on Google, the coach on the
home
> > > page is
> > > > > from the Oberto company. http://www.ohboyoberto.com
> > > > > It doesn't show that coach, but has descriptions of all
their
> > > > products.
> > > > > It seems to be a large company that sponsors events.
Ernie-
> > > 83PT40 in
> > > > > Texas
> > > >